Derek Fisher

agreed, fisher has been a weak point. His one shot tonight, he came up with a steal, then pushed in transition with lebron laying on the floor with a bad leg, and looked off numerous open teammtes including westbrook who was ahead of him, and jacked up some crazy shot that the heat were able to turn into 2 points the other way. He also took a couple early shot clock attempts in game 3 including a transition pull up three with about 20 seconds left on the clock that hit off the backboard. He wants to be a hero but just doesnt have it anymore.

but still you gotta love his confidence and i wouldnt be surprised if he played a good role in game 5.

Veteran presence is the answer. Oh and cluch threes.

Remember, Scott Brooks is a guy who made his living playing basketball. He is a jock. He isn't really a very good coach. He also has decided to play a lineup tonight that involves Thabo plus OKC's four best players (KD, West, Harden and Ibaka (though hopefully I didn't really have to say who the best players are)). Turns out he only played that lineup for four minutes in the regular season. Way to get the team prepared for everything, Brooks! I guess a 60 or so game season wasn't long enough to try lineups that involve your four best players plus one of your top defenders. Never would have thought that would be a useful thing to try, huh?

Also, apparently he never taught his team how to play zone. So they can't zone Lebron out of the post. Whoops. Guess there wasn't enough time in this short season for some of the fundamental.

Fishers has had some good games but tonight I guess it was not there. OKC did not show outside of Westbrook and Durant. They played with little energy. I hope they play better at home also i hate how when Miami is at home they tend to have a plus 10 or more on free throws.

If they lose game 5, is Presti calling Phil Jackson?

Agreed, I dont understand what Fisher brings to the table. He cant guard Wade, or Lebron. So Westbrook has to guard Wade which saps his energy because he isnt guarding Chalmers or James Jones. Fisher cant do anything besides spot up in the corner, which takes away from their movement, and if I'm the Miami Heat, I'm daring Fisher to shoot. Ive seen Durant, Westbrook and Harden beat teams recently, Fisher isnt capable of doing it anymore. He might hit a couple, but he simply doesnt do anything else.

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Preach on my brother. There is no reason Fisher is playing all these minutes. He is contributing absolutely nothing. He isn't scoring, he isn't some lock down defender, so why is he getting 22 minutes? If you need to rest Westbrook, let Harden play point. Every minute Fisher plays I get more and more aggravated.

I'd also like them to get Daequan Cook some minutes, especially when they need some scoring. He'll spread the floor better and has the ability to get hot and knock some 3's down.

As for Fisher, get him off the court!!! It's too bad Eric Maynor is hurt, he'd be real nice coming off the bench instead of Fisher.

Yeah the Fisher thing is unbelievable. I think he will knock down some threes if left open and frankly he is playing a little better than I would have guessed. But I don't think he should still be in the league much less playing huge minutes. And keep in mind that Harden can clearly play point. Thabo is playing really well and could easily have his minutes increased. Westbrook is playing great and is young enough to handle big minutes.

Forget Cook, just up Harden's minutes to 40 a game. Yes, he is playing badly, but the guy is a stud. And you can play him at PG, especially against Chalmers or Cole.

How about Harden, Thabo, KD, Ibaka and Collison, for the handful of minutes that you need to rest Westbrook? Why the need to have Fisher on the floor when you have three quality guards. Hell, KD can play 2G, so the Thunder actually have 4 quality guards.

Because he's the only PG they have?

I am rarely able to watch every minute of a game these days. Last night I came in halfway through 2nd quarter and saw the rest of the game. Usually I will catch half of a game or more (dont like DVRing games too much). That being said, some of my assessments are way off from consensus in this forum a lot of times, and perhaps it is because I am missing a lot of action.

From the minutes I have seen him play, Fisher has given them really solid minutes IMO. He is the type of guy who's contributions wont show up in the box score. He has hit some big shots and is always a threat to do so from that corner pocket he loves. My take is, he doesnt really make mistakes. He gives you 20 min of error free basketball most of the time and I dont see where he is a liability on defense. His presence on the floor does help because he is able to see a lot of things and be a coach on the floor. Had he been on the floor when that jump ball occurred, maybe that subsequent foul doesnt take place...I dont know.

From what I have seen, the way they have been losing has nothing to do with Fisher. I think he is doing what he is supposed to. If anything, last night, Harden got really gun-shy and was reluctant to pull the trigger when wide open showing that his confidence may be gone for this series.

Not disagreeing with you guys, if this many people think Fisher sucks, then its probably true...he just didnt stand out to me in this series as not being helpful....he was worse in L.A. I thought.

okc management feels that when westbrook is out with a foul they could use a guy like fisher who has a championship exp the guy has clutch 3point shots and is a good alternative after westbrook specially if he fouls out they dont have anyone else to put through

and cook is not your pg who you can rely on in clutch situiations this is what i think is in the mind of okc management