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  • #63666
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    valentine

    People say green is a top ten to 20 player. My question is would you trade number one for him. His locked up on a good contract to I believe .

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  • #1060989
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    ExumInferno
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     He’s not even the best player on his team, maybe not second best, and his team was losing to Portland before their best player got back on the court.  Pick 3 for Green, probably do that, not a top 2 pick.

    There is also the money part, the team getting Green would have to use some or all of their salary cap space as he is on more than the top pick.

    A good question to think about, but the 76ers might have traded away the top overall pick for Roy Hinson so there is some similarity there but not too much.  Hinson was a forward with an average of 20 and 8, and could block shots, but he wasn’t a superstar and not worth anywhere near that high a pick in trade.  

     

     

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  • #1061112
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     He’s not even the best player on his team, maybe not second best, and his team was losing to Portland before their best player got back on the court.  Pick 3 for Green, probably do that, not a top 2 pick.

    There is also the money part, the team getting Green would have to use some or all of their salary cap space as he is on more than the top pick.

    A good question to think about, but the 76ers might have traded away the top overall pick for Roy Hinson so there is some similarity there but not too much.  Hinson was a forward with an average of 20 and 8, and could block shots, but he wasn’t a superstar and not worth anywhere near that high a pick in trade.  

     

     

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  • #1060993
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     Absolutely not. First of all, warriors wouldn’t make that trade, but let’s just hypothetically say they would. Green is a great glue guy, probably the best in the league, but I would still hesitate to call him a superstar. Although he is a great player, i still believe a lot of his value is tied into the fact that he is such a perfect fit in golden states system. Im not sure his impact would be as great on a much less talented team.

     If you are giving up the chance to lock up a potential superstar for the next decade you had better be getting a bona fide superstar in return. If you are already a good team that is maybe one piece away from being elite (ex. Cleveland when they swapped Wiggins for love) then I could maybe see it. However, if you are a young team like the Lakers or sixers who is probably years away from contending it would make little sense to give up your best asset, a young player with superstar potential on a rookie deal, for a player like Green. Only way I could maybe see it is if you had an agreement that by signing green you could also get an even bigger name as well that would automatically put you in contention, like when Boston traded for Allen and then were able to get Garnett as well.

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  • #1061116
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     Absolutely not. First of all, warriors wouldn’t make that trade, but let’s just hypothetically say they would. Green is a great glue guy, probably the best in the league, but I would still hesitate to call him a superstar. Although he is a great player, i still believe a lot of his value is tied into the fact that he is such a perfect fit in golden states system. Im not sure his impact would be as great on a much less talented team.

     If you are giving up the chance to lock up a potential superstar for the next decade you had better be getting a bona fide superstar in return. If you are already a good team that is maybe one piece away from being elite (ex. Cleveland when they swapped Wiggins for love) then I could maybe see it. However, if you are a young team like the Lakers or sixers who is probably years away from contending it would make little sense to give up your best asset, a young player with superstar potential on a rookie deal, for a player like Green. Only way I could maybe see it is if you had an agreement that by signing green you could also get an even bigger name as well that would automatically put you in contention, like when Boston traded for Allen and then were able to get Garnett as well.

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  • #1060995
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     Damn right I give up the top pick for Draymond Green.  He’s a team glue player and if the Wolves were to get him for their pick he would help make them a scary playoff team. He is the exact player they need to make a huge jump in the west.  His hustle,unselfish play along with his defense and 3 point shoot makes him a great fit for any team.

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  • #1061118
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     Damn right I give up the top pick for Draymond Green.  He’s a team glue player and if the Wolves were to get him for their pick he would help make them a scary playoff team. He is the exact player they need to make a huge jump in the west.  His hustle,unselfish play along with his defense and 3 point shoot makes him a great fit for any team.

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  • #1061146
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     As long as he isn’t the best player on the team or at least isn’t asked to be the primary scorer, he can be as effective as he is with the Warriors.

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  • #1061023
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     As long as he isn’t the best player on the team or at least isn’t asked to be the primary scorer, he can be as effective as he is with the Warriors.

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  • #1061148
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    in a heartbeat.  He’s a leader, an energizer, a great two-way player, can score inside and out, and can guard any position.  I think that fits into any system.  Plus he’s young, and under the new cap limits, he has a reasonable deal too.

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  • #1061025
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    in a heartbeat.  He’s a leader, an energizer, a great two-way player, can score inside and out, and can guard any position.  I think that fits into any system.  Plus he’s young, and under the new cap limits, he has a reasonable deal too.

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  • #1061150
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     YES, without hesitation. He seems to have an effect KG had. He’s the heart and soul and not to mention his offensive and defensive versatility. 

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  • #1061027
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     YES, without hesitation. He seems to have an effect KG had. He’s the heart and soul and not to mention his offensive and defensive versatility. 

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  • #1061151
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     I would absolutely make that trade no questions asked. Draymond Green just makes everybody else’s job easier. He creates scoring opportunities, is an amazing leader, is physical and intimidatimg, does all the dirty work, plays with 100% effort all the time and really is like the ultimate role player sort of a superstar role player because he really takes on 5-6 etc. roles at one time and does them all at a very high level. Even if I’m Philly at least I now have a defined leader to build my organization around and set the example of excellence.

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  • #1061029
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     I would absolutely make that trade no questions asked. Draymond Green just makes everybody else’s job easier. He creates scoring opportunities, is an amazing leader, is physical and intimidatimg, does all the dirty work, plays with 100% effort all the time and really is like the ultimate role player sort of a superstar role player because he really takes on 5-6 etc. roles at one time and does them all at a very high level. Even if I’m Philly at least I now have a defined leader to build my organization around and set the example of excellence.

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  • #1061153
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     I would not because you have the rights to Simmons good or bad for the next 8 years, not to mention his Bird Rights, you would only be getting Green for the remaining years on his current deal and risk looking like a GM that traded a #1 Overall pick for a Guy almost every GM passed on a few years ago, although Green has made lmost all of them regret it.

    A more realistic trade would be Green for the 3rd Pick Via Boston, Celtics could add a few extra picks to sweeten the deal…

    The Celtics could build a Big 3 starting with Green as the KG/Pierce heart and soul type F, they’d still have plenty of ammo to trade for another All Star and have the Cap Room to a Horford and Durant(If the Thunder completely fall apart I’m games 6 and 7 and he decides to go East)

     

     

      

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  • #1061031
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     I would not because you have the rights to Simmons good or bad for the next 8 years, not to mention his Bird Rights, you would only be getting Green for the remaining years on his current deal and risk looking like a GM that traded a #1 Overall pick for a Guy almost every GM passed on a few years ago, although Green has made lmost all of them regret it.

    A more realistic trade would be Green for the 3rd Pick Via Boston, Celtics could add a few extra picks to sweeten the deal…

    The Celtics could build a Big 3 starting with Green as the KG/Pierce heart and soul type F, they’d still have plenty of ammo to trade for another All Star and have the Cap Room to a Horford and Durant(If the Thunder completely fall apart I’m games 6 and 7 and he decides to go East)

     

     

      

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    • #1061197
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      On most teams people would be happy to trade Green for Simmons but the Warriors are defending champions and coming off the best record ever.  They would never trade a major reason for that and risk blowing up the team chemistry.

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    • #1061075
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      On most teams people would be happy to trade Green for Simmons but the Warriors are defending champions and coming off the best record ever.  They would never trade a major reason for that and risk blowing up the team chemistry.

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  • #1061221
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    Depends on the team tbh and how are they building
    For example the wolves should do it .they already have a gr8 core and they need to take their team to a winning mentality .they already have their superstar with KAT and a gr8 sidekick in Wiggins.it will be tough to develop another youngster their to meet his potential .very good PG and a gr8 rotation players too .
    Give them a glue guy who is still relatively young along Thibodeau and they are immediately a play-off team and potential contender in couple of years .
    Think the Lakers might do it too ,they seem a bit in hurry for their rebuilding and Green would provide them with an immediate gr8 player to show along their new coach for the FA .
    Boston might be possible ,again an already play-off team that he would immediately make them better
    Think most of the other teams will pass on such opportunity though

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  • #1061099
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    Depends on the team tbh and how are they building
    For example the wolves should do it .they already have a gr8 core and they need to take their team to a winning mentality .they already have their superstar with KAT and a gr8 sidekick in Wiggins.it will be tough to develop another youngster their to meet his potential .very good PG and a gr8 rotation players too .
    Give them a glue guy who is still relatively young along Thibodeau and they are immediately a play-off team and potential contender in couple of years .
    Think the Lakers might do it too ,they seem a bit in hurry for their rebuilding and Green would provide them with an immediate gr8 player to show along their new coach for the FA .
    Boston might be possible ,again an already play-off team that he would immediately make them better
    Think most of the other teams will pass on such opportunity though

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  • #1061158
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    Warriors wouldn’t even consider trading him unless the pick is in the top 2. Even then, I think they pass on trading Green.

    I would certainly trade the number 1 pick for an established star like Green. He might be the second most important player on the Warriors overall after Curry.

     

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  • #1061279
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    Warriors wouldn’t even consider trading him unless the pick is in the top 2. Even then, I think they pass on trading Green.

    I would certainly trade the number 1 pick for an established star like Green. He might be the second most important player on the Warriors overall after Curry.

     

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  • #1061244
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     You have to look at each draft. In this year draft I would not trade away my #1 pick. But look at last year, are you willing to trade KAT or Porzingis for Green or the year before with Wiggins? I would take each of the last few #1 picks (minus Bennett) over Green. And to be honest, you can’t just look at the player picked first, if you have the first pick you have to look at everyone available. In each draft class there is probably a player that you think is as good or better than Green. Once again minus 2013 class.

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  • #1061366
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     You have to look at each draft. In this year draft I would not trade away my #1 pick. But look at last year, are you willing to trade KAT or Porzingis for Green or the year before with Wiggins? I would take each of the last few #1 picks (minus Bennett) over Green. And to be honest, you can’t just look at the player picked first, if you have the first pick you have to look at everyone available. In each draft class there is probably a player that you think is as good or better than Green. Once again minus 2013 class.

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  • #1061398
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    Ahkasi Clay
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    One of the main attractions to Simmons is his passing abilities. Are they really better than Greens? Is Simmons a better Defender?

     

    Not saying I would make this trade. Just kinda funny how every one is looking at Simmons to have the potential to develop into a Draymon Green kind of player.

     

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  • #1061276
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    One of the main attractions to Simmons is his passing abilities. Are they really better than Greens? Is Simmons a better Defender?

     

    Not saying I would make this trade. Just kinda funny how every one is looking at Simmons to have the potential to develop into a Draymon Green kind of player.

     

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  • #1061404
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     Draymond Green is a beast. Depending on what #1 pick you’re talking about, but he has more intangibles than anyone in the leauge….bar none!

    Hes a top 10 player in the league….easily! In fact, he’s the best "big-man"….so work out what that’s worth cos to me, its a hell of a lot. 

    I’d trade the #1 pick for him about 50% of the time, depending on the class. I’d trade Wiggins, but not Towns. I’d trade Bennett, but not Lebron (you get my drift). I don’t trade Simmons though….

    Draymond himself is the best player at his position, yet he also makes everyone else better. I’d love to have Draymond Green on my team.

     

     

     

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  • #1061282
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     Draymond Green is a beast. Depending on what #1 pick you’re talking about, but he has more intangibles than anyone in the leauge….bar none!

    Hes a top 10 player in the league….easily! In fact, he’s the best "big-man"….so work out what that’s worth cos to me, its a hell of a lot. 

    I’d trade the #1 pick for him about 50% of the time, depending on the class. I’d trade Wiggins, but not Towns. I’d trade Bennett, but not Lebron (you get my drift). I don’t trade Simmons though….

    Draymond himself is the best player at his position, yet he also makes everyone else better. I’d love to have Draymond Green on my team.

     

     

     

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  • #1061416
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    nill650
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    no,because if I am picking in the top of the draft I don’t have a good enough team for him to thrive.Somehow it easily gets undermined just how talented that roster is without him i guess. He definitely would not fill the stat sheet like he does, hence not making him worth what he is to gsw .Yes, most other nba teams in the playoffs would love to have a guy like this, but no way basement dwellers give up a potential superstar even for a proven leader. and there is no way the other top teams would give up there 1st or second best players for this guy either. Do you think the cavs would give up irving for him? No, how about the raptors give up Lowry? No.Do you think gsw would give up one of the splash brothers to keep green? No.

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  • #1061293
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    nill650
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    no,because if I am picking in the top of the draft I don’t have a good enough team for him to thrive.Somehow it easily gets undermined just how talented that roster is without him i guess. He definitely would not fill the stat sheet like he does, hence not making him worth what he is to gsw .Yes, most other nba teams in the playoffs would love to have a guy like this, but no way basement dwellers give up a potential superstar even for a proven leader. and there is no way the other top teams would give up there 1st or second best players for this guy either. Do you think the cavs would give up irving for him? No, how about the raptors give up Lowry? No.Do you think gsw would give up one of the splash brothers to keep green? No.

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