[valentine]

Anyone that thinks Brandon Ingram should be the #1 pick is foolish  and fails to acknowledge the natural evolution that constantly takes place in the NBA. He’s simply not as good as Ben Simmons now, nor will he ever be. And team fit should be completely irrellevent when someone with as much talent as him comes along. Let me tell you why: 

I want to paint a timeline about the dominant players in recent history. Tell me what they have in common (virtually nothing), because if you think a player should be drafted on what works now, you’re completely ignoring the inevitibility of change in the NBA.

• Early 80s: a 7’2" Center with an unblockable skyhood dominated (Kareem)
• Mid 80’s: An unathletic white guy (Bird) and a 6’9" Point guard dominated (Magic)
• 90s: A super athletic and competitive 6’6" SG dominated (Jordan)
• 90’s & 2000’s: A 7’1" 350lb monster (Shaq) dominated because he was unstoppable inside
• 2000’s: The best players were a Jordan clone (Kobe), a 6’0" passing wizard (Nash) and a 7’0" European who could shoot the lights out (Nowitzki)
• 2000’/2010’s: Lebron matched a combination of athleticism & skill to become unstoppable
• Present: A skinny, PG with average athletcisim who simply does not miss jump shots has become an unstoppable force. 

Moral of the story: Change is inevidible. What works now, will not work in 5 years time. The NBA has undergone constant change and the best players have games that are nothing alike. The only thing that remains the same is their ability to dominate. Teams that base their playing style around the Warriors are already too late. Because by the time they’ve mastered it, a renaissance team will already have a newer better strategy that other teams have no answer for. 

This is why you simply must draft Ben Simmons with the #1 pick. Brandon Ingram is a nice player, but he doesn’t have the transcendent talent that Simmons does. In his prime, Brandon Ingram would be a great fit for the NBA now. But in 10 years, the NBA landscape will have changed once again, and there is no knowing whether his play style will be suited.

On the other hand, if you draft Ben Simmons, he’s going to be great regardless of era. He can pass, rebound, handle the ball, score inside better than anyone in his draft class. He’s stronger, faster and smarter than anyone else on the court. The only thing he has to work on is shooting, but like I mentioned, being the best shooter and a one-trick-pony in the NBA is great now, but that’s not guaranteed to be the most important thing in 5 to 10 years when these guys will be in their prime. For all we know, passing might be the single most valued skill in 2025. 

Therefore Sixers fans, Lakers fans, Nuggets fans…..You want Ben Simmons #1. Hall of Famers come in all shapes and sizes, not just shooting extraordinares just because that is what leads wins in 2016

Thoughts?

 

 

 

 

[mercyman25Participant]

 Michael Beasley is a supreme athletes with all the talent in the world, but he doesn’t have the spark. He doesn’t have what champions are made of. I’m not sure if Ingram is that, but he is a team player with all star talent. Ben Simmons is not LeBron James and if he pulls the I know better than coach crap he will have a similar career to Beasley or at best Boogey. Always the most talented loser. Would you rather have Boogey or Klay thompson? Not exact match, but you get my point.

[Hype Machine]

You ask if he’s transcendent? 

Depends on who you listen to. NBAdraft.net has his comparison as Lebron James. 

Magic Johnson (who had a very similar game) said he’s the best incoming prospect since Lebron. 

Another high-level talent evaluator who operates under the alias of Hype Machine has also declared him the next big thing lol.

Some pretty powerful reviews coming from industry hard-hitters right there….

I personally don’t buy into the bad attitude/coach killing stuff. If others are prepared to write him off completely because of that….they do so at their own peril. 

[benny15Participant]

i would actually say its up there, but i believe the same is the case with Michael Beasley who actually had a more impressive college season than Simmons.

 im a fan of simmons and i do believe he’s the best prospect in this draft. Ingram is nice, his offensive skill set and upside is supperior to that of wiggins comming out but i’ll take the 6’10, 240 pounder who can do it all. 

i do acknowledge though that simmons is not a sure thing and can never live up to his potential. beasley is a prime example of a transcendent talent that never developed close to what he could be. when you average close to 20 PPG in the NBA for a full season and still people call you a bust, then you know people had some unworldly expectations from the talent youve shown before comming to the NBA.

ive heared people say that theres a higher chance that simmons will turn out closser to Lamar Odom than to LeBron James and I do agree with them. its not so much as a knock on Ben as it is to point out on how difficult it is to attain the level that James has. i’m hoping that simmons would put in the work though and reaches it one day since he has that kind of upside even though he’s not as freak of an athlete. 

 

 

[benny15Participant]

i would actually say its up there, but i believe the same is the case with Michael Beasley who actually had a more impressive college season than Simmons.

 im a fan of simmons and i do believe he’s the best prospect in this draft. Ingram is nice, his offensive skill set and upside is supperior to that of wiggins comming out but i’ll take the 6’10, 240 pounder who can do it all. 

i do acknowledge though that simmons is not a sure thing and can never live up to his potential. beasley is a prime example of a transcendent talent that never developed close to what he could be. when you average close to 20 PPG in the NBA for a full season and still people call you a bust, then you know people had some unworldly expectations from the talent youve shown before comming to the NBA.

ive heared people say that theres a higher chance that simmons will turn out closser to Lamar Odom than to LeBron James and I do agree with them. its not so much as a knock on Ben as it is to point out on how difficult it is to attain the level that James has. i’m hoping that simmons would put in the work though and reaches it one day since he has that kind of upside even though he’s not as freak of an athlete. 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 I wouldn’t take those nbadraft.net comparisons too seriously.  Go look at DeShawn Stephenson’s profile where he was compared to MJ.  

[Hype Machine]

 Many would criticise the DeShawn Stephenson comparison now that we know it’s garbage…

But Kudos goes to the brave soul who went with it. 

Probably cost him a job at this site, but he wasn’t afraid to make the boldest of predictions, which I respect. 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

 Many would criticise the DeShawn Stephenson comparison now that we know it’s garbage…

But Kudos goes to the brave soul who went with it. 

Probably cost him a job at this site, but he wasn’t afraid to make the boldest of predictions, which I respect. 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 I wouldn’t take those nbadraft.net comparisons too seriously.  Go look at DeShawn Stephenson’s profile where he was compared to MJ.  

[Hype Machine]

You ask if he’s transcendent? 

Depends on who you listen to. NBAdraft.net has his comparison as Lebron James. 

Magic Johnson (who had a very similar game) said he’s the best incoming prospect since Lebron. 

Another high-level talent evaluator who operates under the alias of Hype Machine has also declared him the next big thing lol.

Some pretty powerful reviews coming from industry hard-hitters right there….

I personally don’t buy into the bad attitude/coach killing stuff. If others are prepared to write him off completely because of that….they do so at their own peril. 

[mercyman25Participant]

 Michael Beasley is a supreme athletes with all the talent in the world, but he doesn’t have the spark. He doesn’t have what champions are made of. I’m not sure if Ingram is that, but he is a team player with all star talent. Ben Simmons is not LeBron James and if he pulls the I know better than coach crap he will have a similar career to Beasley or at best Boogey. Always the most talented loser. Would you rather have Boogey or Klay thompson? Not exact match, but you get my point.

[cjwParticipant]

There are too many things wrong with this post…

[cjwParticipant]

There are too many things wrong with this post…

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

Ingram can shoot the ball..I don’t see that going away from the game in 10 years. 

[SeattleSuperChronicsParticipant]

Ingram can shoot the ball..I don’t see that going away from the game in 10 years. 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 You’re calling me a fool for wanting my 76ers to take Brandon Ingram over Ben Simmons 

Well what about team need or fit?

The 76ers dont need a ball dominate F when we have a dire need for a floor spacer…

Brandon is simply a better fit for my Team, not to mention a very good prospect, even when put next to Ben Simmons…

Its not as if all Ingram does is shoot 3’s either, he can pass and makes an occasional cut to the basket, he can play some defense too, and most importantly he seems like a good team player

Ben for all his talent, cannot shoot the ball, and why would Philly want a player that cant space the dloor for Okafor and Noel and Embiid…I want to build a cohesive roster with shooters around our great Front Court, step 1 would be drafting Brandon Ingram at 1 or 2 at best, Jamal Murray at 3 at worst…

We simply need a perimeter player with RANGE, Brandon, Buddy or Jamal are the best fits for Philadelphia…

I’m sorry for being an Idiot or Fool for thinking Ingram is the best pick for the 76ers and have since the college season tipped off…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Lol, I can’t exactly go back on my accusations now. I get the feeling I’m about to be called worse things. 

Everyone on here is pretty switched on so I got nothing but respect for all the users, I just wanted to get more spirited debate going by employing my usual antagonistic Hype methods.

I still think there’s merit in my evolution of the game arguement…

In regards to the Sixers current needs, their roster is unique but I still think if they plan ond drafting someone for 10 years of high level play, Simmons is the man. It might look ugly as sin in 2016/2017, but by the time he hits his peak and tweakers their roster some more, I think they’ll be grateful for the decision. 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Lol, I can’t exactly go back on my accusations now. I get the feeling I’m about to be called worse things. 

Everyone on here is pretty switched on so I got nothing but respect for all the users, I just wanted to get more spirited debate going by employing my usual antagonistic Hype methods.

I still think there’s merit in my evolution of the game arguement…

In regards to the Sixers current needs, their roster is unique but I still think if they plan ond drafting someone for 10 years of high level play, Simmons is the man. It might look ugly as sin in 2016/2017, but by the time he hits his peak and tweakers their roster some more, I think they’ll be grateful for the decision. 

 

 

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 You’re calling me a fool for wanting my 76ers to take Brandon Ingram over Ben Simmons 

Well what about team need or fit?

The 76ers dont need a ball dominate F when we have a dire need for a floor spacer…

Brandon is simply a better fit for my Team, not to mention a very good prospect, even when put next to Ben Simmons…

Its not as if all Ingram does is shoot 3’s either, he can pass and makes an occasional cut to the basket, he can play some defense too, and most importantly he seems like a good team player

Ben for all his talent, cannot shoot the ball, and why would Philly want a player that cant space the dloor for Okafor and Noel and Embiid…I want to build a cohesive roster with shooters around our great Front Court, step 1 would be drafting Brandon Ingram at 1 or 2 at best, Jamal Murray at 3 at worst…

We simply need a perimeter player with RANGE, Brandon, Buddy or Jamal are the best fits for Philadelphia…

I’m sorry for being an Idiot or Fool for thinking Ingram is the best pick for the 76ers and have since the college season tipped off…

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Captain LParticipant]

 Ingram reminds me of Durrant and I’d hate to pass on him .

[Hype Machine]

He reminds me of Durant too….but I don’t think he’s that good. 

 

[Hype Machine]

He reminds me of Durant too….but I don’t think he’s that good. 

 

[Captain LParticipant]

 Ingram reminds me of Durrant and I’d hate to pass on him .

[frogmanParticipant]

 Well Ingram shouldn’t go before Simmons but your reasoning is ludicrous.

[frogmanParticipant]

 Well Ingram shouldn’t go before Simmons but your reasoning is ludicrous.

[losnopesosParticipant]

Not buying the Simmons hype.  

[losnopesosParticipant]

Not buying the Simmons hype.  

[TheGuyParticipant]

What’s your actual point? 

 You make it seem like all people who view Ingram as better over Simmons is because of the Warriors. Some people actually think Ingram over Simmons because that’s their opinion after watching the two and think Ingram is a better prospect/player.

You didn’t even display any reasons why you think Simmons is better or why you think lowly of Ingram other than some vauge strawman idea of change and evalution that good jumpshooters won’t be successful or valuable in a few years because of flimsy half-assed hypothesis.

 

 

[Hype Machine]

 Your wish is my command, but I think most people already know the list of strengths & weaknesses.

Firstly, despite the subject heading, it’s not really a Ingram Bashing thread. It’s a Simmons Hype thread, so I’ll focus on him

• Unmatched feel for the game
• Unmatched Basketball IQ
• Unmatched Versatility
• Impossible to stop in transition
• Decision making
• Unmatched dexterity with both hands
• Supreme combination of size, strength and athletcism at 6’10
• Unmatched passing ability from the Forward Position
• Best Rebounder in the class
• Post skills, slashing skills and ability to get open off-the-ball
• Biggest mismatch in the draft

I could have gone on, but the list of things he does better than anyone else is seemingly endless.The list of weakness’s is much shorter. 

I’m on record as saying he’s a future MVP. Bookmark this thread, I’ll gladly eat my words if he’s the next Michael Beasley. 

 

 

 

[TheGuyParticipant]

 You have an unmatched ability to lathargically repeat the word unmatched.

What was the point of the faux trend you used? Why can’t you just say Simmons better all around player blah blah blah to display your opinion. Listing some mythological algrithm as some sort of blueprint to figure out who will be/won’t be the next superstar is the worst support or reasoning you could use. 

I’m not adverse to either side of the argument for each player. I’m not here to debate about your thoughts on the matter; since I could’t give a strong opinion on it since Iwould be torn on picking between the two and I would hate to make that choice

 

 

[TheGuyParticipant]

 You have an unmatched ability to lathargically repeat the word unmatched.

What was the point of the faux trend you used? Why can’t you just say Simmons better all around player blah blah blah to display your opinion. Listing some mythological algrithm as some sort of blueprint to figure out who will be/won’t be the next superstar is the worst support or reasoning you could use. 

I’m not adverse to either side of the argument for each player. I’m not here to debate about your thoughts on the matter; since I could’t give a strong opinion on it since Iwould be torn on picking between the two and I would hate to make that choice

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Lol this thread reminds me of a bad Fox News Current Affairs segment…It would sound something like this..

* Forum user creates outrage by labelling other users fools in an anti-Ingram tirade!

* Continues using word "unmatched" in a vulgar display of lethargy!!

* Fellow users fight back with unprecedented outpouring of negs in a mob-like mentality! 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Lol this thread reminds me of a bad Fox News Current Affairs segment…It would sound something like this..

* Forum user creates outrage by labelling other users fools in an anti-Ingram tirade!

* Continues using word "unmatched" in a vulgar display of lethargy!!

* Fellow users fight back with unprecedented outpouring of negs in a mob-like mentality! 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

 Your wish is my command, but I think most people already know the list of strengths & weaknesses.

Firstly, despite the subject heading, it’s not really a Ingram Bashing thread. It’s a Simmons Hype thread, so I’ll focus on him

• Unmatched feel for the game
• Unmatched Basketball IQ
• Unmatched Versatility
• Impossible to stop in transition
• Decision making
• Unmatched dexterity with both hands
• Supreme combination of size, strength and athletcism at 6’10
• Unmatched passing ability from the Forward Position
• Best Rebounder in the class
• Post skills, slashing skills and ability to get open off-the-ball
• Biggest mismatch in the draft

I could have gone on, but the list of things he does better than anyone else is seemingly endless.The list of weakness’s is much shorter. 

I’m on record as saying he’s a future MVP. Bookmark this thread, I’ll gladly eat my words if he’s the next Michael Beasley. 

 

 

 

[TheGuyParticipant]

What’s your actual point? 

 You make it seem like all people who view Ingram as better over Simmons is because of the Warriors. Some people actually think Ingram over Simmons because that’s their opinion after watching the two and think Ingram is a better prospect/player.

You didn’t even display any reasons why you think Simmons is better or why you think lowly of Ingram other than some vauge strawman idea of change and evalution that good jumpshooters won’t be successful or valuable in a few years because of flimsy half-assed hypothesis.

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Change is inevitable…

What does that even mean in relation to why Simmons is better than Ingram? 

I’ll admit, I skimmed your post, so maybe it was hidden in there but I guess I’m not sure what Simmons does that is so remarkable. 

I don’t think people who like Simmons more than Ingram are idiots, but I disagree with them. 

I like Ingram more because I think he’s a B+ version of Kevin Durant. I think Simmons is a better Lamar Odom. 

Ingram fits with a team easier, he’s got more scoring potential and he doesnt seem like he’s super into himself. That tilts the scale for me when deciding between the two. 

Go ahead Hype Machine, yell at me, call me an idiot. I know nothing. I’m a hater. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Haha don’t take it too personally man. The comment about being foolish was in jest and partly click bait by appealing to peoples sense of pride. I didn’t say you’re an idiot, a hater, or know nothing. I wouldn’t yell at you either. 

Nonetheless, if you can’t see any remarkable skills that Simmons brings to the table, you’re clearly an idiot, hater and deserve a good yelling at. 

Lol just joking man, Take a load off. I’m only having a bit of fun with you all. I’m sure you can handle it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Hype Machine]

Haha don’t take it too personally man. The comment about being foolish was in jest and partly click bait by appealing to peoples sense of pride. I didn’t say you’re an idiot, a hater, or know nothing. I wouldn’t yell at you either. 

Nonetheless, if you can’t see any remarkable skills that Simmons brings to the table, you’re clearly an idiot, hater and deserve a good yelling at. 

Lol just joking man, Take a load off. I’m only having a bit of fun with you all. I’m sure you can handle it!

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 Change is inevitable…

What does that even mean in relation to why Simmons is better than Ingram? 

I’ll admit, I skimmed your post, so maybe it was hidden in there but I guess I’m not sure what Simmons does that is so remarkable. 

I don’t think people who like Simmons more than Ingram are idiots, but I disagree with them. 

I like Ingram more because I think he’s a B+ version of Kevin Durant. I think Simmons is a better Lamar Odom. 

Ingram fits with a team easier, he’s got more scoring potential and he doesnt seem like he’s super into himself. That tilts the scale for me when deciding between the two. 

Go ahead Hype Machine, yell at me, call me an idiot. I know nothing. I’m a hater. 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Simmons has a ton of potential and talent but you ignore legit concerns about his game.  His shooting whether you want to admit it or not is a something teams have to worry about.  Regardless of if he plays with the ball in his hand or not teams will sag off of him until he proves he can knock jumpers down.  Another was his lack of effort on defense he showed throughout his year at LSU.  Simmons is athletic and strong enough to guard but too often he chose not to defend.  

As for Ingram you seem to be ignoring that he has an all around game.  His length gives him the potential to be a two way wing player.  He showed the ability to score in a variety of ways from playing off the ball ,running Duke’s offense, and on the fastbreak.  I watched him run pick and rolls reading the defense and making the right play.   I didn’t know he could set up teammates like he did this year.  

By the way you also said this isn’t an Ingram bashing thread then why is the title "why people who think Ingram is #1 are fools".  If you just wanted to talk about why you believe Simmons should go #1 then why not a title like "Why Simmons should go #1".  

 

[Hype Machine]

Regarding your last paragraph….where’s the sense of drama in that?

I’d rather make a bold statement and put my rep on the line in the process. Happy to be proven wrong later, and dubbed a fool 100x over. 

 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 What’s the point in calling people idiots for beliving Ingram should go #1?  If debating who should go #1 is what you want why start the conversation in that way?  

[Hype Machine]

If someone drafts Simmons 2nd and he turns out to be a significantly better player, the decision to take Ingram #1 will look foolish.

And foolish behaviour is performed by fools. It’s not exactly an R18+ rated insult lol. 

I didn’t call anyone an idiot. 

And…I have a flair for the dramatic. Starting the thread in the way I did has resulted in a strong response rate. I’ll wear the negs,because I’m liking the replies. 

Who else on here can you count on to provide alternative opinions and attitudes? A forum is made up of all types of personalities and profiles. I’m just adding to the melting pot that is the draftnet forums.

If we all shared the same opinions, what would be the fun in that?

 

 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

Of course we don’t need to have the same opinions and the whole point of joining this website is to debate and discuss the nba, prospects, and the draft.  

The same could be said about Ingram too as he could go 2nd and end up having the better career.  The draft is so difficult to predict and it happens all the time where somebody has a better career than expected.  That’s why it seems silly to say anybody who is leaning towards Ingram is a fool.  He’s clearly the only competition Simmons has for going #1 in this draft class.  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

Of course we don’t need to have the same opinions and the whole point of joining this website is to debate and discuss the nba, prospects, and the draft.  

The same could be said about Ingram too as he could go 2nd and end up having the better career.  The draft is so difficult to predict and it happens all the time where somebody has a better career than expected.  That’s why it seems silly to say anybody who is leaning towards Ingram is a fool.  He’s clearly the only competition Simmons has for going #1 in this draft class.  

[Hype Machine]

If someone drafts Simmons 2nd and he turns out to be a significantly better player, the decision to take Ingram #1 will look foolish.

And foolish behaviour is performed by fools. It’s not exactly an R18+ rated insult lol. 

I didn’t call anyone an idiot. 

And…I have a flair for the dramatic. Starting the thread in the way I did has resulted in a strong response rate. I’ll wear the negs,because I’m liking the replies. 

Who else on here can you count on to provide alternative opinions and attitudes? A forum is made up of all types of personalities and profiles. I’m just adding to the melting pot that is the draftnet forums.

If we all shared the same opinions, what would be the fun in that?

 

 

 

 

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 What’s the point in calling people idiots for beliving Ingram should go #1?  If debating who should go #1 is what you want why start the conversation in that way?  

[Hype Machine]

Regarding your last paragraph….where’s the sense of drama in that?

I’d rather make a bold statement and put my rep on the line in the process. Happy to be proven wrong later, and dubbed a fool 100x over. 

 

 

 

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 That’s why you better hope that the Celtics get the #1 pick. They’re a good team, he won’t play defense for a bad team. If he wouldn’t play defense with LSU, why would he play defense with the 76ers?

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 That’s why you better hope that the Celtics get the #1 pick. They’re a good team, he won’t play defense for a bad team. If he wouldn’t play defense with LSU, why would he play defense with the 76ers?

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Simmons has a ton of potential and talent but you ignore legit concerns about his game.  His shooting whether you want to admit it or not is a something teams have to worry about.  Regardless of if he plays with the ball in his hand or not teams will sag off of him until he proves he can knock jumpers down.  Another was his lack of effort on defense he showed throughout his year at LSU.  Simmons is athletic and strong enough to guard but too often he chose not to defend.  

As for Ingram you seem to be ignoring that he has an all around game.  His length gives him the potential to be a two way wing player.  He showed the ability to score in a variety of ways from playing off the ball ,running Duke’s offense, and on the fastbreak.  I watched him run pick and rolls reading the defense and making the right play.   I didn’t know he could set up teammates like he did this year.  

By the way you also said this isn’t an Ingram bashing thread then why is the title "why people who think Ingram is #1 are fools".  If you just wanted to talk about why you believe Simmons should go #1 then why not a title like "Why Simmons should go #1".  

 

[UncledrewParticipant]

Ingram can easily be worthy of the number 1 pick if you don’t think so your crazy. Simmons may have a larger ceiling due to his size and ball skills but if he doesn’t develop a jump shot and the mentality that he wants to destroy his opponent everytime he wont end up the best player in this draft. Right now he looks like a more athletic Lamar Odom. Ingram showed he can score all areas of the floor in a Duke system that catered more to Grayson Allen. As Ingram fills out he should be a match up problem at any position with his size, length and ball skills . If he isn’t strong enough right away he could play some shooting guard similar to KD his rookie year in Seattle. 

[UncledrewParticipant]

Ingram can easily be worthy of the number 1 pick if you don’t think so your crazy. Simmons may have a larger ceiling due to his size and ball skills but if he doesn’t develop a jump shot and the mentality that he wants to destroy his opponent everytime he wont end up the best player in this draft. Right now he looks like a more athletic Lamar Odom. Ingram showed he can score all areas of the floor in a Duke system that catered more to Grayson Allen. As Ingram fills out he should be a match up problem at any position with his size, length and ball skills . If he isn’t strong enough right away he could play some shooting guard similar to KD his rookie year in Seattle. 

[StraightOuttaMyMineParticipant]

 Hype Machine,You Are Straight Outta Your Mind!!!!!!!

[StraightOuttaMyMineParticipant]

 Hype Machine,You Are Straight Outta Your Mind!!!!!!!

[Hype Machine]

Haha maybe youre right man. Have they got any good psyciatrists in Mississippi?

Hopefully someone better than than the guy you go to…cos he’s doing a terrible job!

 

[Hype Machine]

Haha maybe youre right man. Have they got any good psyciatrists in Mississippi?

Hopefully someone better than than the guy you go to…cos he’s doing a terrible job!

 

[StraightOuttaMyMineParticipant]

 Fella, who taught you how to spell?? You must’ve went to Don’s school of spelling?? You misspelled spelled a lot of words in this last post!! 

[StraightOuttaMyMineParticipant]

 Fella, who taught you how to spell?? You must’ve went to Don’s school of spelling?? You misspelled spelled a lot of words in this last post!! 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Maybe things don’t change, and if Simmons is picked by the Lakers they will again have their tall point guard.  

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 Maybe things don’t change, and if Simmons is picked by the Lakers they will again have their tall point guard.  

[hoopscopParticipant]

You know one thing is for sure. You have very little knowledge of this game, but You are inclined telling folks they know anything about it. Simmons weaknesses are hard to miss, his shooting is bad, his motor and his demeanor are rubbing people off, but You are a moron who should look to find a life. Something like a girl or a job or why are taking your sports obsession in spheres it doesnt matter like aussie rules or I dont know.

[hoopscopParticipant]

You know one thing is for sure. You have very little knowledge of this game, but You are inclined telling folks they know anything about it. Simmons weaknesses are hard to miss, his shooting is bad, his motor and his demeanor are rubbing people off, but You are a moron who should look to find a life. Something like a girl or a job or why are taking your sports obsession in spheres it doesnt matter like aussie rules or I dont know.

[Hype Machine]

Cuff me Hoops Cop.

Guilty as charged on the following counts.

[Hype Machine]

Cuff me Hoops Cop.

Guilty as charged on the following counts.

[PhillySteveParticipant]

In other words, the fallability of Ingram supporters is that they disagree with you? 

It doesnt seem like anything but a difference of opinion to me.

Nash?

 

 

[PhillySteveParticipant]

In other words, the fallability of Ingram supporters is that they disagree with you? 

It doesnt seem like anything but a difference of opinion to me.

Nash?

 

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 20 years ago Simmons is picked 1st, no questions asked. Today, we make use of meaningful statistics that tell us that you shooting is substantially important (surprise). 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 20 years ago Simmons is picked 1st, no questions asked. Today, we make use of meaningful statistics that tell us that you shooting is substantially important (surprise). 

[Swim34061Participant]

Ingram’s celing/best case scenario is Durant.

Durant just finished year 9, the majority of which he played with another top-6 NBA player.

No rings.

Simmons.

 

 

 

 

[Swim34061Participant]

Ingram’s celing/best case scenario is Durant.

Durant just finished year 9, the majority of which he played with another top-6 NBA player.

No rings.

Simmons.

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I personally have Simmons ahead of Ingram in my mind but whoever gets first pick needs to work both guys out and have a real good look at them before deciding who to pick.

I think there is less gap between Simmons and Ingram than between Ingram and whoever goes 3rd on draft night.

[HitsterParticipant]

Everyone is entitled to their opinion and I personally have Simmons ahead of Ingram in my mind but whoever gets first pick needs to work both guys out and have a real good look at them before deciding who to pick.

I think there is less gap between Simmons and Ingram than between Ingram and whoever goes 3rd on draft night.

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 @Swim34061 which guy bests compares to Robert Horry or Derek Fisher then? That’s the guy that should go No. 1 right? 

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

 @Swim34061 which guy bests compares to Robert Horry or Derek Fisher then? That’s the guy that should go No. 1 right? 

[Kwame33Participant]

 Terrible post.

[Kwame33Participant]

 Terrible post.

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