[MattP31Participant]

 I’ve been really researching this since the injury. Reading/listening to a lot of medical opinions on this from many sources. I’ve also got my own personal experience with lower body injuries and a sister that has a degree in athletic training and PHD in physical therapy, which are reasons why I was looking into this as much as I did. In addition to the injury being caught early, here are three things that caught my eye.

Yes his 2 stress fractures are a concern but he’s still young and still building bone density. There is also the hope that his biomechanics can be studied to determine if these injuries were caused by something he is doing wrong in his running/jumping/landing form to have him make changes.

There is also something else which he can do to limit the impact- that is do a good deal of offseason workouts in a pool to limit the stress and impact on his body. 

Really hoping he ends up in Cleveland with Big Z in the front office, knowing his history with the injury. It sounds to me like he could go on to have a long and productive career as long as he ends up somewhere with a good medical/training staff that will put in the time to give him as much preventative care as he needs instead of waiting until future injuries happen

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Julius Randle had a foot injury.  Jabari Parker was injured in high school.

You can’t focus on Embiid without looking at Randle/Parker too.

Embiid played limited minutes at Kansas, only 23 minutes a game.  He also sat out games.

That might be what he needs to do in the NBA too.  Play limited minutes (28-32 minutes a night), sit out some second halves of back-to-backs, and maybe even lose weight.  Play some 4 even with another 7 footer at the 5.  Battle smaller power forwards more. 

Now, with Embiid, ok, he gets back from his foot and back issues, then you have to worry about his KNEES.  Don’t put too much wear and tear on them.  Limit his minutes.  Stay thinner.  Focus on being a finesse power forward, and a weak side shot blocker, instead of the next Shaq. 

Embiid could still have a great career, but he might need to take a different path to get there. 

My comparisons for Embiid are still Ralph Sampson on the high end and Olden Polynice on the low end.  Baseline of Robert Parish. 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

Julius Randle had a foot injury.  Jabari Parker was injured in high school.

You can’t focus on Embiid without looking at Randle/Parker too.

Embiid played limited minutes at Kansas, only 23 minutes a game.  He also sat out games.

That might be what he needs to do in the NBA too.  Play limited minutes (28-32 minutes a night), sit out some second halves of back-to-backs, and maybe even lose weight.  Play some 4 even with another 7 footer at the 5.  Battle smaller power forwards more. 

Now, with Embiid, ok, he gets back from his foot and back issues, then you have to worry about his KNEES.  Don’t put too much wear and tear on them.  Limit his minutes.  Stay thinner.  Focus on being a finesse power forward, and a weak side shot blocker, instead of the next Shaq. 

Embiid could still have a great career, but he might need to take a different path to get there. 

My comparisons for Embiid are still Ralph Sampson on the high end and Olden Polynice on the low end.  Baseline of Robert Parish. 

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

I hate to overreact but am I the only one who thinks he’s going to take his entire rookie year off? It’s not uncommon. Recently Oden, Griffin, and Noel had to recover from injury during their first year.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

I hate to overreact but am I the only one who thinks he’s going to take his entire rookie year off? It’s not uncommon. Recently Oden, Griffin, and Noel had to recover from injury during their first year.

[MattP31Participant]

 Very hard to say today. I think that all depends on numerous factors. The true severity of the injury which is still unknown, who drafts him, how fast he heals, when/if he would be cleared to play and where the team’s record sits.

If the Sixers draft him then he probably sits no matter what after Noel last year. If it’s the Cavs then they could possibly play him if they are fighting for the playoffs and he is completely 100% cleared. 

[MattP31Participant]

 Very hard to say today. I think that all depends on numerous factors. The true severity of the injury which is still unknown, who drafts him, how fast he heals, when/if he would be cleared to play and where the team’s record sits.

If the Sixers draft him then he probably sits no matter what after Noel last year. If it’s the Cavs then they could possibly play him if they are fighting for the playoffs and he is completely 100% cleared. 

[Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipant]

 I agree, they say he’ll be out 4-6 months, which would put him coming back in between November and January, that’s not counting his on court rehab, so he could very well be out until the All-Star break, so then why bring him back for 2 months? But we’ll just have to see how he recovers.  

[Pistol Pete. The PelicanParticipant]

 I agree, they say he’ll be out 4-6 months, which would put him coming back in between November and January, that’s not counting his on court rehab, so he could very well be out until the All-Star break, so then why bring him back for 2 months? But we’ll just have to see how he recovers.  

[abrowniiParticipant]

 There’s a strong possiblity.

However, from our current data it’s only a 50/50 deal. 

The one to succeed Blake Griffin, Greg Oden was the one to fail.

Have yet to judge Nerlens Noel yet, because he haven’t played a game yet, but reports are claiming he’s 100% healthy and even added to his vertical and offensive post game.

 

 

 

[abrowniiParticipant]

 There’s a strong possiblity.

However, from our current data it’s only a 50/50 deal. 

The one to succeed Blake Griffin, Greg Oden was the one to fail.

Have yet to judge Nerlens Noel yet, because he haven’t played a game yet, but reports are claiming he’s 100% healthy and even added to his vertical and offensive post game.

 

 

 

[BallinmvpParticipant]

 I do think whichever team drafts him will bring him along slowly and make sure he is completely healthy  

[BallinmvpParticipant]

 I do think whichever team drafts him will bring him along slowly and make sure he is completely healthy  

[Captain LParticipant]

 Good info, I think if a team is smart about how they handle him he can have a productive good career, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Jazz take him at 5 and just let him heal and work on conditioning etc for the whole year like Philly did with Noel , the Jazz could continue to develop Favors and Kanter and even Gobert and see how much they improve and then decide who to move at next years draft. This draft is strong and pick 23 could probably at least be good enough to help in the rotataion and the Jazz would probably end up picking in the 7 to 12 range next year, mostly because of improvement from their core 5. Next yrs draft is supposed to be pretty strong and that would just add to the asset accumulation process the Jazz are in now. If the Jazz don’t take Embid, I hope they take Gordon, I like his potential and upside. Not playing it safe with either choice  but I think we need to take a chance.

[Captain LParticipant]

 Good info, I think if a team is smart about how they handle him he can have a productive good career, I wouldn’t mind seeing the Jazz take him at 5 and just let him heal and work on conditioning etc for the whole year like Philly did with Noel , the Jazz could continue to develop Favors and Kanter and even Gobert and see how much they improve and then decide who to move at next years draft. This draft is strong and pick 23 could probably at least be good enough to help in the rotataion and the Jazz would probably end up picking in the 7 to 12 range next year, mostly because of improvement from their core 5. Next yrs draft is supposed to be pretty strong and that would just add to the asset accumulation process the Jazz are in now. If the Jazz don’t take Embid, I hope they take Gordon, I like his potential and upside. Not playing it safe with either choice  but I think we need to take a chance.

[TenSecondTomParticipant]

 Nice insight although I would still think that Embiid’s injury is a cause for concern and major risk considering the history of big men and lower body injuries. The question arises whether the risk/reward is worthy of the number 1, top 3, top 5, or top 10 selection. In this draft, I do not believe the reward outweighs the risk to the point where he still should be selected first overall; maybe in 2013, but not this year. Top 3, I wouldn’t have a problem with as after Jabari and Wiggins are off the board because the only other prospect I view in the region of the big three is Exum and I do not believe he and MCW could co-exist in the same backcourt. Anything after 3, I believe a team selecting him would be getting a steal. If he were to fall to no. 6 with Boston, that would be arguably the biggest steal of the draft only at pick 6 and would be Nerlens Noel to Philly on steroids. 

[TenSecondTomParticipant]

 Nice insight although I would still think that Embiid’s injury is a cause for concern and major risk considering the history of big men and lower body injuries. The question arises whether the risk/reward is worthy of the number 1, top 3, top 5, or top 10 selection. In this draft, I do not believe the reward outweighs the risk to the point where he still should be selected first overall; maybe in 2013, but not this year. Top 3, I wouldn’t have a problem with as after Jabari and Wiggins are off the board because the only other prospect I view in the region of the big three is Exum and I do not believe he and MCW could co-exist in the same backcourt. Anything after 3, I believe a team selecting him would be getting a steal. If he were to fall to no. 6 with Boston, that would be arguably the biggest steal of the draft only at pick 6 and would be Nerlens Noel to Philly on steroids. 

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 The reason you bring him in for 2/3 months is to get him actual game experience. An extended preseason going into next year, when hopefully he is healthy and ready to dominate 

[IhateusernamesParticipant]

 The reason you bring him in for 2/3 months is to get him actual game experience. An extended preseason going into next year, when hopefully he is healthy and ready to dominate 

[AstroParticipant]

Embiid could have a Vitamin D deficiency for all we know. Going from Cameroon to friggin’ Kansas would do that.

[AstroParticipant]

Embiid could have a Vitamin D deficiency for all we know. Going from Cameroon to friggin’ Kansas would do that.

[tuck243Participant]

(I don’t know how I did it) but something we must discuss…

Embiid had 2 stress fractures within a 2 month period.   I think it IS a major concern.   One that I believe is because he hasn’t played basketball that long…   You can look at this 2 ways…  You can say that his body isn’t use to basketball just yet and will overcome this, or you can say this is something that will always hunt him.   

Look at it like this…  Embiid has played a total of 28 college games with an average of 23 min. per…  You expecting him to play 75+ games a season and around 32 min. per contest.   Embiid already have 2 stress fractures (which is caused by overuse of the bone).  That’s very alarming IMO.  I think whatever team that drafts him will need to monitor his minutes significant and allow his body to get use to basketball…  Do it too soon and he will continue to have problems…  I have chronic shin splints that I think may have been ok if I didn’t rush back too soon…  

 

 

  

[EndlessknightParticipant]

This is exactly how I see it. Noel’s injury was a freak play, Embiid’s tend to suggest that his body might not be up to the grind on an NBA season. 

[EndlessknightParticipant]

This is exactly how I see it. Noel’s injury was a freak play, Embiid’s tend to suggest that his body might not be up to the grind on an NBA season. 

[tuck243Participant]

(I don’t know how I did it) but something we must discuss…

Embiid had 2 stress fractures within a 2 month period.   I think it IS a major concern.   One that I believe is because he hasn’t played basketball that long…   You can look at this 2 ways…  You can say that his body isn’t use to basketball just yet and will overcome this, or you can say this is something that will always hunt him.   

Look at it like this…  Embiid has played a total of 28 college games with an average of 23 min. per…  You expecting him to play 75+ games a season and around 32 min. per contest.   Embiid already have 2 stress fractures (which is caused by overuse of the bone).  That’s very alarming IMO.  I think whatever team that drafts him will need to monitor his minutes significant and allow his body to get use to basketball…  Do it too soon and he will continue to have problems…  I have chronic shin splints that I think may have been ok if I didn’t rush back too soon…  

 

 

  

[TyroberParticipant]

 His injuries are a big deal to me because the two places where you don’t want big men to be injured….. Are the back and feet. History is definitely not on his side and while his upside is the highest in he draft i don’t see how he goes before wiggins and Parker. We should expect a full recovery but there are just too many other options for the guys up top. 

[TyroberParticipant]

 His injuries are a big deal to me because the two places where you don’t want big men to be injured….. Are the back and feet. History is definitely not on his side and while his upside is the highest in he draft i don’t see how he goes before wiggins and Parker. We should expect a full recovery but there are just too many other options for the guys up top. 

[vnmslsrbmsParticipant]

 Is it me or has this hyped draft gone from overhyped to overly criticized to now underhyped?  

Embiid, oh what do we draft thee.  I think in the 5-10 slot.  It’s a legit gamble, but if I were GM, I’d choose someone else, unless it’s 9-10.  

Parker and Randle also had foot stress fractures.  I’m not sure if they were of the same part of the foot, since there isn’t much detail out there, but they seem to be just fine now (though being shorter and less weight seems to matter).  

 

 

 

[vnmslsrbmsParticipant]

 Is it me or has this hyped draft gone from overhyped to overly criticized to now underhyped?  

Embiid, oh what do we draft thee.  I think in the 5-10 slot.  It’s a legit gamble, but if I were GM, I’d choose someone else, unless it’s 9-10.  

Parker and Randle also had foot stress fractures.  I’m not sure if they were of the same part of the foot, since there isn’t much detail out there, but they seem to be just fine now (though being shorter and less weight seems to matter).  

 

 

 

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