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- Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 9:34am #53864

HaleParticipantI can’t remember a time where there wasn’t a pretty much consensus best big man in the league like right now. I think it’s between the following 6 guys (don’t massacre me if I forgot one), so who do you think it is? Age and stats are listed below.
Dwight Howard (28) 18.8 ppg 12.4 rpg 1.8 apg 0.9 spg 1.8 bpg 57.8 FG%
Kevin Love (25) 25.7 ppg 13.3 rpg 3.9 apg 0.9 spg 0.4 bpg 45.4 FG%
LaMarcus Aldridge (28) 23.9 ppg 11.5 rpg 2.8 apg 0.9 spg 1.0 bpg 46.5 FG%
Blake Griffin (24) 23.9 ppg 9.8 rpg 3.6 apg 1.1 spg 0.6 bpg 53.7 FG%
DeMarcus Cousins (23) 22.6 ppg 11.7 rpg 2.9 apg 1.6 spg 1l.2 bpg 48.2 FG%
Anthony Davis (20) 20.7 ppg 10.3 rpg 1.4 apg 1.6 spg 3.1 bpg 52.2 FG%
I know you are supposed to give your own answer but I honestly don’t know who I’d take number one.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 9:45am #871186

Snatalini247ParticipantI’ll probably have to say Kevin Love by a small margain because I think if you put him on the blazers as a replacement for the Blazers I think they would do just as well canceling out the thought that Love isnt a winner. Though I’ll give it maybe one year until Davis passes them all
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 9:45am #871081

Snatalini247ParticipantI’ll probably have to say Kevin Love by a small margain because I think if you put him on the blazers as a replacement for the Blazers I think they would do just as well canceling out the thought that Love isnt a winner. Though I’ll give it maybe one year until Davis passes them all
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:10am #871194

SpartanGloryParticipantI think right now it’s Aldridge. He might be the best mid range shooter in the nba. He’s also the leader on one of the best teams in the league. I agree that within the next couple years it’s going to be Davis. He’s turning into an unbelievable player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:10am #871089

SpartanGloryParticipantI think right now it’s Aldridge. He might be the best mid range shooter in the nba. He’s also the leader on one of the best teams in the league. I agree that within the next couple years it’s going to be Davis. He’s turning into an unbelievable player.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:11am #871196
max23ParticipantId also say Kevin Love by also a small margin,id love to see him this year on a playoff team.
But if im starting a franchise,give me Davis,im looking forward to see him develop in the next 5 years.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:11am #871091
max23ParticipantId also say Kevin Love by also a small margin,id love to see him this year on a playoff team.
But if im starting a franchise,give me Davis,im looking forward to see him develop in the next 5 years.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:21am #871202
Dr.RedParticipantAs a long time Wolves fan, I can definitely say I would not take Love. Kill me if you want to. Love simply does not make his temmates better and does not a have a winning track record in the league. When Love is out, the team plays as a team, and look like they are having more fun running everything through Rubio. I think Love puts up monster numbers but is no leader, and, from evidence alone, not a winner. The Wolves have plenty of issues without putting it on Love, but if you want to be considered a top tier talent in the league, you better be able to take your team to better than .500, and Love hasn’t done that.
Right now, I’d take Blake or Aldridge without a doubt. Swap Love with either one of those players and the team dynamic changes greatly. Blake proved me wrong when Paul went down and the Clips played stellar with him leading the way. Aldridge is a beast on both ends and his team is a top level squad.
In a year or two, if he stays healthy, it will definitely be Davis. Drummond will also enter the conversation.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:21am #871097
Dr.RedParticipantAs a long time Wolves fan, I can definitely say I would not take Love. Kill me if you want to. Love simply does not make his temmates better and does not a have a winning track record in the league. When Love is out, the team plays as a team, and look like they are having more fun running everything through Rubio. I think Love puts up monster numbers but is no leader, and, from evidence alone, not a winner. The Wolves have plenty of issues without putting it on Love, but if you want to be considered a top tier talent in the league, you better be able to take your team to better than .500, and Love hasn’t done that.
Right now, I’d take Blake or Aldridge without a doubt. Swap Love with either one of those players and the team dynamic changes greatly. Blake proved me wrong when Paul went down and the Clips played stellar with him leading the way. Aldridge is a beast on both ends and his team is a top level squad.
In a year or two, if he stays healthy, it will definitely be Davis. Drummond will also enter the conversation.
0- Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:27am #871206

HaleParticipantI don’t think Drummond will ever be nearly the offensive weapon some of these guys are (hitting midrange jumpers, being a consistent low post scorer) but he’s going to put up big numbers and play great defense. He’s already averaging 13 ppg 13 rpg and 2bpg on 60% shooting at 20 and he’s still raw.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:27am #871101

HaleParticipantI don’t think Drummond will ever be nearly the offensive weapon some of these guys are (hitting midrange jumpers, being a consistent low post scorer) but he’s going to put up big numbers and play great defense. He’s already averaging 13 ppg 13 rpg and 2bpg on 60% shooting at 20 and he’s still raw.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 5:02pm #871261

HaleParticipantRandom stat I found. Andre Drummond is averaging the most offensive rebounds per game (5.4) since Dennis Rodman averaged 5.8 in 1996-1997. Second place in the NBA is averaging 4.1. Drummond has 283 offensive rebounds this season, already more than anyone had all of last year (Dwight had 251).
0- Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 9:23pm #871313
lakeshow22ParticipantY does everyone think Drummond is a good defender? He’s really struggled on that end this season
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 9:23pm #871419
lakeshow22ParticipantY does everyone think Drummond is a good defender? He’s really struggled on that end this season
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- Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 5:02pm #871366

HaleParticipantRandom stat I found. Andre Drummond is averaging the most offensive rebounds per game (5.4) since Dennis Rodman averaged 5.8 in 1996-1997. Second place in the NBA is averaging 4.1. Drummond has 283 offensive rebounds this season, already more than anyone had all of last year (Dwight had 251).
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 6:02pm #871283
aztwulfParticipantI get so tired of the argument that Love isn’t a true star because his team doesn’t win. People rarely use that argument talking about Davis, they just overlook the fact that his team doesn’t win, and talk about his potential. Griffin didn’t win until he got CP3, now all of a sudden “he” is a winner, even though he is the same player he always was.
I also don’t buy the argument that Love plays “no defense”. Do you consider rebounding on the defensive end to be part of defense? If you do, Love is one of the top 2 rebounders in the league, year after year. Do you consider taking charges as being good defense? Love takes as many charges as anyone in the game.
Certainly Love has his limitations. He isn’t fleet afoot, but he works fairly hard to stay between his man and the basket. He isn’t a shotblocker, but he doesn’t shy away AT ALL from mixing it up underneath. For some on here it’s like you can’t be a good defender if you aren’t a good shotblocker, even though there are many aspects of defense.
As for Love not making his teammates better, that is total BS. Minnesota is enormously more efficient, with much better plus/minus while Love is on the floor. The guy averages a VERY EFFICIENT 26 ppg on 3 fewer shots per game than Aldridge, over 13 rpg, and averages close to 4 assists per game, with a 2:1 assist ratio. Love’s PER is over 27, Griffin 24, Aldridge 22.
Is it Love’s fault that he doesn’t have any star teammates? Aldridge has Lilliard, Matthews, Batum, a pretty decent center in Lopez, and a solid bench. Griffin has CP3, Reddick, Jordan, and a shooter off the bench in Crawford. Love has Pek, nonshooters in Brewer and Rubio, an erratic KMart, and little help off the bench. To me, that is managements fault and not Love’s. Love plays a lot of minutes, has to carry the offense, and take care of most of the rebounding.
What else do you want the guy to do?
0- Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 6:22pm #871293

HaleParticipantA couple things I disagree with:
Anthony Davis is in his 2nd year. He was drafted to a 21-45 team (31.8%). As a rookie his team was 23-41 with him (35.9%) and 4-14 without him (22.2%). His team is also 20-24 (45.5%) with him this year as opposed to 3-5 (37.5%) without him. He’s clearly had an impact on his team. Griffin has been absolutely dominant lately and the Clippers are 13-6 without Chris Paul. Small sample size sure but Love has never touched that.
Can you not try and defend Kevin Love as a defender? No, defensive rebounding has nothing to with being an individual defender. He’s awful on that end of the floor and no one is afraid to go right at him. He’s not afraid to mix it up down low and he is a premiere rebounder in the NBA but that’s a copout way to try and hide a weakness.
Most people projected the Timberwolves to make the postseason this year. No one said that about Portland. The TImberwolves are not void of talent. Rubio has definitely underperformed but he, Pek, Martin and Brewer is a pretty good starting lineup along with a good coach. JJ Barea sucks and plays way too much though.
I’m not saying Kevin Love doesn’t have an argument as the best big in the game. He does, he leads all the guys I listed in ppg rpg apg and possibly PER (don’t want to look it up) but I disagree with a large part of your argument.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 6:22pm #871398

HaleParticipantA couple things I disagree with:
Anthony Davis is in his 2nd year. He was drafted to a 21-45 team (31.8%). As a rookie his team was 23-41 with him (35.9%) and 4-14 without him (22.2%). His team is also 20-24 (45.5%) with him this year as opposed to 3-5 (37.5%) without him. He’s clearly had an impact on his team. Griffin has been absolutely dominant lately and the Clippers are 13-6 without Chris Paul. Small sample size sure but Love has never touched that.
Can you not try and defend Kevin Love as a defender? No, defensive rebounding has nothing to with being an individual defender. He’s awful on that end of the floor and no one is afraid to go right at him. He’s not afraid to mix it up down low and he is a premiere rebounder in the NBA but that’s a copout way to try and hide a weakness.
Most people projected the Timberwolves to make the postseason this year. No one said that about Portland. The TImberwolves are not void of talent. Rubio has definitely underperformed but he, Pek, Martin and Brewer is a pretty good starting lineup along with a good coach. JJ Barea sucks and plays way too much though.
I’m not saying Kevin Love doesn’t have an argument as the best big in the game. He does, he leads all the guys I listed in ppg rpg apg and possibly PER (don’t want to look it up) but I disagree with a large part of your argument.
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- Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 6:02pm #871388
aztwulfParticipantI get so tired of the argument that Love isn’t a true star because his team doesn’t win. People rarely use that argument talking about Davis, they just overlook the fact that his team doesn’t win, and talk about his potential. Griffin didn’t win until he got CP3, now all of a sudden “he” is a winner, even though he is the same player he always was.
I also don’t buy the argument that Love plays “no defense”. Do you consider rebounding on the defensive end to be part of defense? If you do, Love is one of the top 2 rebounders in the league, year after year. Do you consider taking charges as being good defense? Love takes as many charges as anyone in the game.
Certainly Love has his limitations. He isn’t fleet afoot, but he works fairly hard to stay between his man and the basket. He isn’t a shotblocker, but he doesn’t shy away AT ALL from mixing it up underneath. For some on here it’s like you can’t be a good defender if you aren’t a good shotblocker, even though there are many aspects of defense.
As for Love not making his teammates better, that is total BS. Minnesota is enormously more efficient, with much better plus/minus while Love is on the floor. The guy averages a VERY EFFICIENT 26 ppg on 3 fewer shots per game than Aldridge, over 13 rpg, and averages close to 4 assists per game, with a 2:1 assist ratio. Love’s PER is over 27, Griffin 24, Aldridge 22.
Is it Love’s fault that he doesn’t have any star teammates? Aldridge has Lilliard, Matthews, Batum, a pretty decent center in Lopez, and a solid bench. Griffin has CP3, Reddick, Jordan, and a shooter off the bench in Crawford. Love has Pek, nonshooters in Brewer and Rubio, an erratic KMart, and little help off the bench. To me, that is managements fault and not Love’s. Love plays a lot of minutes, has to carry the offense, and take care of most of the rebounding.
What else do you want the guy to do?
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- Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:34am #871212
laxmisonParticipantI think the best centers
1. Hibbert 2. Noah 3. Cousins 4. Howard
best PFs
1. Aldridge 2. Duncan 3.Love 4. Griffin
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:34am #871107
laxmisonParticipantI think the best centers
1. Hibbert 2. Noah 3. Cousins 4. Howard
best PFs
1. Aldridge 2. Duncan 3.Love 4. Griffin
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:51am #871224
LitteringAnd…ParticipantProbably have to say Aldridge just over Love, so deadly in a variety of ways and leading his team to a great record this season. But agree with concensus on Davis and to a lesser degree Boogie, either of them have the tools to seperate themselves from the rest in the next couple of years. Davis certainly seems more likely to reach his ceiling but things do seem to be gradually getting better for the Kings (Boogie’s play and attitude, the roster, IT).
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:51am #871119
LitteringAnd…ParticipantProbably have to say Aldridge just over Love, so deadly in a variety of ways and leading his team to a great record this season. But agree with concensus on Davis and to a lesser degree Boogie, either of them have the tools to seperate themselves from the rest in the next couple of years. Davis certainly seems more likely to reach his ceiling but things do seem to be gradually getting better for the Kings (Boogie’s play and attitude, the roster, IT).
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:54am #871228

TRC1991ParticipantI have to think it’s Aldridge. He’s the most well-rounded. Kevin Love is incredible on offense but his defense (or lack thereof) is shaky on its best day
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:54am #871123

TRC1991ParticipantI have to think it’s Aldridge. He’s the most well-rounded. Kevin Love is incredible on offense but his defense (or lack thereof) is shaky on its best day
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:58am #871234
machu46ParticipantI have no idea who I’d take. I generally favor a dominant C, but I think you can make a strong case for any of the PFs at this point. I’m not sure if he’s the best, but with the way he’s playing right now, it’s hard to go against Blake Griffin. He’s been flat out dominant lately.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 10:58am #871129
machu46ParticipantI have no idea who I’d take. I generally favor a dominant C, but I think you can make a strong case for any of the PFs at this point. I’m not sure if he’s the best, but with the way he’s playing right now, it’s hard to go against Blake Griffin. He’s been flat out dominant lately.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:02am #871238
Memphis MadnessParticipantAldridge might make the All NBA First Team along with LeBron and Kevin Durant. I would also put Chris Paul in there. And, if you look at Steph Curry’s numbers he is going for almost 25 points along with a league-leading 9 assists a game.
Aldridge has great stats and is the guy on one of the league’s top teams. Have to go with him RIGHT NOW.
Blake Griffin is a devastating force when he is on.
Kevin Love puts up numbers, but does he WIN? Or, is he more like a younger version of pre-Grizzlies Z Bo (but with a better 3 point shot)?
Anthony Davis and Cousins are great too. At least one of those guys should be on the 2016 Olympic team, and probably both (along with Kevin Love, Blake, and Aldridge). I would go with 5 bigs if I could get away with it… or at least four of those (minus Cousins).
I don’t think it is a BAD thing that there is no clear cut Best Big Man in the League. I also don’t think there is a clear-cut overall best player in the league. I would go with Kevin Durant RIGHT NOW, but you could easily argue for LeBron.
Lots of great point guards too, but no clear cut favorite: take your pick between Chris Paul, Steph Curry (monster numbers!), Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, and even guys like John Wall, Kyrie Irving, and Mike Conley.
I think the big man positions are well-represented right now. Dwight Howard is a really good center. Then you have Hibbert and Noah for defense (along with some offense). Cousins is a BEAST. Davis and LMA are great hybrid bigs who can do some (a lot?) of everything.
Blake and Love are as good a power forward duo as you can get. Blake is putting up Karl Malone-like numbers, with Love’s stats being even better.
Not that we need to have a best CLEAR CUT Big Man, but I think we will find out in the upcoming playoffs. I wouldn’t even give up on our vintage bigs like Duncan and Dirk. Have to watch out for those guys.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:02am #871133
Memphis MadnessParticipantAldridge might make the All NBA First Team along with LeBron and Kevin Durant. I would also put Chris Paul in there. And, if you look at Steph Curry’s numbers he is going for almost 25 points along with a league-leading 9 assists a game.
Aldridge has great stats and is the guy on one of the league’s top teams. Have to go with him RIGHT NOW.
Blake Griffin is a devastating force when he is on.
Kevin Love puts up numbers, but does he WIN? Or, is he more like a younger version of pre-Grizzlies Z Bo (but with a better 3 point shot)?
Anthony Davis and Cousins are great too. At least one of those guys should be on the 2016 Olympic team, and probably both (along with Kevin Love, Blake, and Aldridge). I would go with 5 bigs if I could get away with it… or at least four of those (minus Cousins).
I don’t think it is a BAD thing that there is no clear cut Best Big Man in the League. I also don’t think there is a clear-cut overall best player in the league. I would go with Kevin Durant RIGHT NOW, but you could easily argue for LeBron.
Lots of great point guards too, but no clear cut favorite: take your pick between Chris Paul, Steph Curry (monster numbers!), Tony Parker, Russell Westbrook, and even guys like John Wall, Kyrie Irving, and Mike Conley.
I think the big man positions are well-represented right now. Dwight Howard is a really good center. Then you have Hibbert and Noah for defense (along with some offense). Cousins is a BEAST. Davis and LMA are great hybrid bigs who can do some (a lot?) of everything.
Blake and Love are as good a power forward duo as you can get. Blake is putting up Karl Malone-like numbers, with Love’s stats being even better.
Not that we need to have a best CLEAR CUT Big Man, but I think we will find out in the upcoming playoffs. I wouldn’t even give up on our vintage bigs like Duncan and Dirk. Have to watch out for those guys.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:37am #871250

festar35ParticipantTo me it is a toss up between Aldridge and Griffin.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:37am #871145

festar35ParticipantTo me it is a toss up between Aldridge and Griffin.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:40am #871252

terrancebowerParticipantFor one 7 game series I’d still take Duncan any day, and maybe Nowitzki second, but over the course of a season I’d go with Aldridge because of his versatility or Howard because of his defensive dominance. I think Z Bo could potentially be in that conversation, especially if you look at his stats after the first month or so of the season, when his numbers were down. There are a lot of really good power forwards, I’d say it’s the second deepest position league-wide behind PG right now.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 11:40am #871147

terrancebowerParticipantFor one 7 game series I’d still take Duncan any day, and maybe Nowitzki second, but over the course of a season I’d go with Aldridge because of his versatility or Howard because of his defensive dominance. I think Z Bo could potentially be in that conversation, especially if you look at his stats after the first month or so of the season, when his numbers were down. There are a lot of really good power forwards, I’d say it’s the second deepest position league-wide behind PG right now.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 1:26pm #871189
jwall1ParticipantI really think it is between Howard and Anthony Davis…
In the NBA, especially as a big man on your team, defense is SO important. Love, Aldrige, and Griffin are great players, but they dominate on only one end of the court. Davis and Howard are 2 of the best defenders in the game, and also solid offensive players… Howard has the ability to bang and get buckets because he is the the strongest and most athletic big on the game. His defense is top notch and it is clear how big of an impact on the game he has defensively. Davis on the other hand is alot more skilled offensively than any of us thought. He probably will never drain 3’s like Love, but his midrange shot and post game should conitinue to grow and improve. having a 2 way big men that emphasize on defense is IMO more valuable than a big man who can score/rebound, but is soft in the paint. We are in a league now where guys like Lebron and Melo are playing PF to space the floor, so if anything that makes defensive big men more valuable. Here is my order…
1. Dwight Howard
2. Anthony Davis
3. Kevin Love
4. Lamarcus Aldrige
5. Blake Griffin
6. Roy Hibbert
7. Duncan
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 1:26pm #871294
jwall1ParticipantI really think it is between Howard and Anthony Davis…
In the NBA, especially as a big man on your team, defense is SO important. Love, Aldrige, and Griffin are great players, but they dominate on only one end of the court. Davis and Howard are 2 of the best defenders in the game, and also solid offensive players… Howard has the ability to bang and get buckets because he is the the strongest and most athletic big on the game. His defense is top notch and it is clear how big of an impact on the game he has defensively. Davis on the other hand is alot more skilled offensively than any of us thought. He probably will never drain 3’s like Love, but his midrange shot and post game should conitinue to grow and improve. having a 2 way big men that emphasize on defense is IMO more valuable than a big man who can score/rebound, but is soft in the paint. We are in a league now where guys like Lebron and Melo are playing PF to space the floor, so if anything that makes defensive big men more valuable. Here is my order…
1. Dwight Howard
2. Anthony Davis
3. Kevin Love
4. Lamarcus Aldrige
5. Blake Griffin
6. Roy Hibbert
7. Duncan
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 2:14pm #871205

GrandmamaParticipantRight now I’d lean towards Aldridge.
If I’m building a team from scratch and for the future, I’d go Davis for sure.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 2:14pm #871310

GrandmamaParticipantRight now I’d lean towards Aldridge.
If I’m building a team from scratch and for the future, I’d go Davis for sure.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 2:53pm #871209
aztwulfParticipantLove right now among the PF’s, by a little over Aldridge and Davis. If Davis develops like most of us suspect, Davis will be the best in a couple of years. Just so long and so agile.
Dwight is the best Center, and will be for a while yet as long as he remains healthy.
But the differences in these players is pretty small. They are all excellent in their own way.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 2:53pm #871314
aztwulfParticipantLove right now among the PF’s, by a little over Aldridge and Davis. If Davis develops like most of us suspect, Davis will be the best in a couple of years. Just so long and so agile.
Dwight is the best Center, and will be for a while yet as long as he remains healthy.
But the differences in these players is pretty small. They are all excellent in their own way.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 3:06pm #871215

Ghost01ParticipantIt’s an extremely interesting topic that I struggle to find an answer on.
When I saw your post, but hadn’t seen anything past "Who is the best big man…" my immediate reaction was Dwight, because unlike most guys on this list, he is a true center.
The difference between centers and power forwards is huge defensively. All of the true difference makers on defense, Dwight, Gasol, Hibbert, Chandler, Sanders (before he went of the rails this season) are all true centers who stand in front of the hoop and stop you from scoring. Dwight is the only guy on the above list in that catergory.
He also has been a phenomenal rebounder and is having a really underrated offensive season.
Now if you are asking me to look at all the PF’s and decide who I like best, right now, it’s actually Griffin.
Griffin is quietly carrying the Clippers while CP3 has been out. For all the well-deserved hype KD has gotten this month, Griffin is averaging 27.4 PPG, 8.3 RPG, and 4.5 APG since Paul has been out while the team is 13-6. His stats may not be better, but he is so much better at understanding how to attack and when to attack.
I love Davis and Cousins, but they aren’t making their teams better yet. They have nice stats and phenomenal upside, but I just don’t see them there yet.
Aldridge has been similiar to Griffin, and at the beginning of the year I probably would have picked him.
Love is the guy I don’t quite get. He STILL hasn’t been on a playoff team. This was supposed to be the year if the T Wolves stayed healthy they would be good. They still are mediocre at best, he is a great scorer and rebounder, but doesn’t do anything defensively and doesn’t do anything to make his teammates better. I just can’t look at a guy who’s lost the majority of his games and say he is a superstar. I think Love will be a great #2 on another team, and I know Griffin is a number 2 also but this last month is what pushed him to No.1 in my book.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 3:06pm #871320

Ghost01ParticipantIt’s an extremely interesting topic that I struggle to find an answer on.
When I saw your post, but hadn’t seen anything past "Who is the best big man…" my immediate reaction was Dwight, because unlike most guys on this list, he is a true center.
The difference between centers and power forwards is huge defensively. All of the true difference makers on defense, Dwight, Gasol, Hibbert, Chandler, Sanders (before he went of the rails this season) are all true centers who stand in front of the hoop and stop you from scoring. Dwight is the only guy on the above list in that catergory.
He also has been a phenomenal rebounder and is having a really underrated offensive season.
Now if you are asking me to look at all the PF’s and decide who I like best, right now, it’s actually Griffin.
Griffin is quietly carrying the Clippers while CP3 has been out. For all the well-deserved hype KD has gotten this month, Griffin is averaging 27.4 PPG, 8.3 RPG, and 4.5 APG since Paul has been out while the team is 13-6. His stats may not be better, but he is so much better at understanding how to attack and when to attack.
I love Davis and Cousins, but they aren’t making their teams better yet. They have nice stats and phenomenal upside, but I just don’t see them there yet.
Aldridge has been similiar to Griffin, and at the beginning of the year I probably would have picked him.
Love is the guy I don’t quite get. He STILL hasn’t been on a playoff team. This was supposed to be the year if the T Wolves stayed healthy they would be good. They still are mediocre at best, he is a great scorer and rebounder, but doesn’t do anything defensively and doesn’t do anything to make his teammates better. I just can’t look at a guy who’s lost the majority of his games and say he is a superstar. I think Love will be a great #2 on another team, and I know Griffin is a number 2 also but this last month is what pushed him to No.1 in my book.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 5:27pm #871275

imAboutDatActionParticipantDwight #1 Center.
Blake #1 PF.
i love Klove offensive game, but his defense is probably the worst out of all the names listed.he’s the #2 jus cus of impact, his team jus doesnt win much. ima give Blake the edge with how he’s performing with CP3 out and the clips are still rollin.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 5:27pm #871380

imAboutDatActionParticipantDwight #1 Center.
Blake #1 PF.
i love Klove offensive game, but his defense is probably the worst out of all the names listed.he’s the #2 jus cus of impact, his team jus doesnt win much. ima give Blake the edge with how he’s performing with CP3 out and the clips are still rollin.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 5:53pm #871279

druneave3ParticipantPerhaps a tough question right now, but I think after next year, or sometime very soon, everyone will be saying Anthony Davis.
To win one game this year, or a 7 game series I would go with LA. Hard not to go with Davis right now in just his second year.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 5:53pm #871384

druneave3ParticipantPerhaps a tough question right now, but I think after next year, or sometime very soon, everyone will be saying Anthony Davis.
To win one game this year, or a 7 game series I would go with LA. Hard not to go with Davis right now in just his second year.
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 8:13pm #871309

Afactor4ParticipantDamn… Not even a mention of Al Jefferson?
Since some of us are talking stats how bout 20.3 ppg 10.5 rpg 1.0 stl 1.3 blk 49.2% and a 22.3 PER
0 - Posted on: Wed, 02/12/2014 - 8:13pm #871415

Afactor4ParticipantDamn… Not even a mention of Al Jefferson?
Since some of us are talking stats how bout 20.3 ppg 10.5 rpg 1.0 stl 1.3 blk 49.2% and a 22.3 PER
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 4:47am #871451

Jester87ParticipantGreat Love fan and I’ve never liked Aldridge much, but I think right now LMA is clearly showing he’s the best.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 4:47am #871345

Jester87ParticipantGreat Love fan and I’ve never liked Aldridge much, but I think right now LMA is clearly showing he’s the best.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 9:30am #871438

tuck243ParticipantThere aren’t many go to players at the 4 anymore in the NBA where you know you can get 2 points when you need it. LaMarcus, Tim, Bosh, and Dirk are the only players currently that play that position that you know you can get 2 points on the low block consistently. Blake, Kevin, Boogie, and Anthony Davis are good for the intangibles they bring. But none can be relied upon to consistently get you points down there. Then you take a look at the defensive end and none of the players but Anthony Davis plays defense. Honestly, when Anthony Davis get a low post game and perfect his jumper he’ll be the best player at that position by a land slide.
Kevin Love on being a legit superstar. He’s good, but lets be clear here. A superstar that’s considered to be “the best” at his position for years now can at least take his team to the playoffs at least once in a 6 year career. Truthfully he has to be the 2nd option, not the first. Winning is part of basketball. We not talking championships. Strictly making the playoffs and he can’t do it. I don’t understand how Melo can get ridiculed his entire career and Kevin Love can’t even make the playoffs, but get saved. Mind blowing…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 9:30am #871544

tuck243ParticipantThere aren’t many go to players at the 4 anymore in the NBA where you know you can get 2 points when you need it. LaMarcus, Tim, Bosh, and Dirk are the only players currently that play that position that you know you can get 2 points on the low block consistently. Blake, Kevin, Boogie, and Anthony Davis are good for the intangibles they bring. But none can be relied upon to consistently get you points down there. Then you take a look at the defensive end and none of the players but Anthony Davis plays defense. Honestly, when Anthony Davis get a low post game and perfect his jumper he’ll be the best player at that position by a land slide.
Kevin Love on being a legit superstar. He’s good, but lets be clear here. A superstar that’s considered to be “the best” at his position for years now can at least take his team to the playoffs at least once in a 6 year career. Truthfully he has to be the 2nd option, not the first. Winning is part of basketball. We not talking championships. Strictly making the playoffs and he can’t do it. I don’t understand how Melo can get ridiculed his entire career and Kevin Love can’t even make the playoffs, but get saved. Mind blowing…
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 5:40pm #871559
ahuang16ParticipantProbably not Kevin Love because of his defense, now while Blake is not a stellar defender, he could grow into a guy who can handle his own against top offensive players. Plus he’s been great even with CP3 out with an injury. Aldridge and Howard are both great players, I just am more interested in picking the younger player from a franchise building standpoint. Also I don’t want to deal with Cousins’s attitude despite him being a top tier center in the league this year (my opinion). Another post player I really like is Andre Drummond because of his tremendous rebounding and defensive capabilities.
0 - Posted on: Thu, 02/13/2014 - 5:40pm #871664
ahuang16ParticipantProbably not Kevin Love because of his defense, now while Blake is not a stellar defender, he could grow into a guy who can handle his own against top offensive players. Plus he’s been great even with CP3 out with an injury. Aldridge and Howard are both great players, I just am more interested in picking the younger player from a franchise building standpoint. Also I don’t want to deal with Cousins’s attitude despite him being a top tier center in the league this year (my opinion). Another post player I really like is Andre Drummond because of his tremendous rebounding and defensive capabilities.
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