[JMIKE is a Grizz fanParticipant]

Who has better handles? nbadraft.net has turner with a 10 on ball handling and Wall with a 8. Which one do you think? post video of which one please if you can

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Turner definitely has better handles. He has more advanced dribble moves, hesitations, change of gear moves, etc.

[OrangeJuiceJonesParticipant]

Turner’s behind-the-back crossover and spin move are two of the most aesthetically pleasing moves I’ve seen from any prospect in quite some time. They’re as smooth as eggs.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Turner

so smooth with the ball, everything comes so naturally.

[sc0rebuckets11Participant]

with everyone saying turner. he also has a lower, controlled handle too.

[JNixonParticipant]

Turner has better overall handles

John Wall is just so explosive and athletic that he doesn’t need to have the moves Turner needs to have. Turner has to get good handles to get where he needs to on the court as consistently as possible. Wall has that Lebron and Dwyane Wade type handle where even though he doesn’t have the tighest handle (meaning keeping the ball low and tucked at the waist) his handle is still very good and with his athleticism he can get wherever he wants on the court with no problem.

[Michael.S.Participant]

agree with iggy

[KahnJr.Participant]

Perfectly put Mr.6000

[FastAndFuriousParticipant]

Turner for sure.

Wall is a little wild and dribbles the ball out infront of him to much

[lalailaParticipant]

year Turner is better there..but Wall’s spin move or behind a back in full speed looks crazy too.

[forrestjParticipant]

Turner has better ball and body control but is less flashy. Wall has the handles of a junior Monte Ellis. If you watch Wall him and Ellis sometimes make moves that leave them lost in a part of the floor with not a lot of options and because of this they both turn the ball over too much. But both do most certainly have handles and can wow you at anytime.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

@Mr. 6000

The question asked was who had better handles. It’s Turner and it’s not even close. Turner is an elite ball handler because he works on it, not because he isn’t an elite athlete. Your post was full of excuses for the reason Wall doesn’t have great handles. Being athletic is no excuse not to have great handles. Wall isn’t a great ball handler, especially in crowded situations. He’s just fast with the ball. He’s not as athletic as a LeBron James or even Dwayne Wade, so he won’t be able to get by in the NBA as much with pure speed and athleticism alone.

[dolla130Participant]

lance stephenson has better handle then both put together and will be the biggest sleeper in the draft

[JNixonParticipant]

LOL…I have no idea where ANYTHING I wrote could even be misconstrued an excuse. I said Turner had better handles. I just pretty much said what was true.

Do you think Turner would be able to get where he wanted as consistently as Wall if he had Wall’s handle? I say no. It’s actually quite obvious watching Turner play that he gets wherever he goes on the court do to his ball-handlinG ability, much more so than he’s average (for NBA standards) athleticism. John Wall gets where he gets because he has a very good handle AND great athleticism that allows him to get wherever he wants on the court.

I wasn’t compare Wall’s athleticism to that of Lebron James’ or D.Wade. I was comparing their handles. This is what I wrote: “Wall has that Lebron and Dwyane Wade type handle where even though he doesn’t have the tighest handle (meaning keeping the ball low and tucked at the waist) his handle is still very good and with his athleticism he can get wherever he wants on the court with no problem.”

I was comparing their handle, notice how I said “Wall has that Lebron and Dwyane Wade TYPE HANDLE”?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

“John Wall is just so explosive and athletic that he doesn’t need to have the moves Turner needs to have.”

That isn’t an excuse for why Wall doesn’t have the moves that Turner has? Being explosive and athletic is no excuse to not have great handles. Wall does need those moves. He won’t be athletically head and shoulders above everybody in the NBA like he was in college. He won’t be able to get by on speed alone.

“Do you think Turner would be able to get where he wanted as consistently as Wall if he had Wall’s handle? I say no.”

No, but that wasn’t the question. The question was who has better handles. It’s Turner. Having elite handles has nothing to do with whether your athletic or not. It’s just something you work at regardless.

And I wasn’t saying you compared Wall’s athleticism to LeBron and Wade’s. I was saying that Wall won’t be able to get by like they do based on athleticism alone. He’ll need to add change of pace/gear dribbling moves to his game and not rely so much on his speed.

[JNixonParticipant]

Wall doesn’t have to have the handle that Turner does to get where he wants on the court. Wall is no worse a ball-handler than Russell Westbrook, and Wall can change directions with the ball. I’m not exactly sure if you’ve watched Wall play alot, but he’s about top be the 1st pick in the draft to play the PG position. He’s shown the ability to change directions with the ball. We’re not talking about Devin Ebanks or Stanley Robinson here. An NBA PG has to show the ability to change directions with the ball, and I’ve seen him make quick moves to the basket. Let’s not pretend like he’s not a very good ball-handler and “get by on only speed”. He’s not Rafer Alston or Jamal Crawford, but he’s still definitely a good enough ball-handler and then some for an NBA PG.

I said Turner was a better ball-handler. I’m not even sure how any of what I said was an excuse. Wall uses speed and ball-handling to get where he wants. As I said, he doesn’t have the tightest handle but he has the athleticism along with the handle to get where he wants on the court. Turner HAS to rely on his handle. Wall doesn’t have to have the handle of Turner to get around the court because he has the athleticism to get where he wants. That’s the truth. I answered the question that was asked, but it’s also easy to tell that Wall doesn’t need to have an elite handle to get where he wants. No need to question Wall’s handle because it’s not bad enough to be a problem.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

We all know that Wall has the speed and athleticism to get by without elite handles lol. Wall’s speed and athleticism has been talked about enough. That wasn’t the question though. The question was simply… “Who has better handles?” The answer is simply and only Evan Turner. Is John Wall that great of a prospect that whenever somebody is better than him at something, there has to be some sort of comeback saying what Wall does better that equals it out for him somehow? Lol… That’s crazy. Turner is just the better ball handler/dribbler. The end.

I’ve watched plenty of John Wall this past season. I watched every televised game, plus a few extra. I never wrote he couldn’t change directions with the ball Mr. 6000 LOL. What I wrote was that he plays at one speed for the most part. He doesn’t have any change of pace/change of gear moves. He doesn’t have any advanced dribbling moves, especially in crowded situations. I’m not saying Wall is a bad ball handler and he’s going to cough the ball up every play. I’m just saying he needs to gain more advanced dribbling moves, so he doesn’t have to rely as much on his speed to get to the rim. That won’t get him by as much in the NBA like it did in college.

[JNixonParticipant]

How many times have I said Turner was a better ball-handler? Do you just want to argue?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I rarely argue or debate with you dude lol. I agree with 99% of what you write.

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