[bdiddy5115Participant]

I’d say a majority of people would say Dennis Smith Jr. is currently the best of that class, but there are quite a few talented guards in the 6’4"-6’6" range, many of them combo-guards, who are right behind him (if not on his level).

Malik Monk | SG/PG | 6’4" 175 | AR

De’Aaron Fox  | PG/SG | 6’4" 180 | TX

Kobi Simmons | PG/SG | 6’5" 175 | GA

Lonzo Ball | PG/SG | 6’5" 170 | CA

Frank Jackson | PG/SG | 6’2" 180 | UT

Seventh Woods | PG/SG | 6’2" 180 | SC

 

 

 

 

 

 

[BallGawd01Participant]

Seventh Woods had so much hype when people first discovered him, I feel like he’s fallen off a cliff and people forgot about him. He’s really athletic, I don’t know any of the other players so I’m a bit biased so I’d probably take woods.  

[BallGawd01Participant]

Seventh Woods had so much hype when people first discovered him, I feel like he’s fallen off a cliff and people forgot about him. He’s really athletic, I don’t know any of the other players so I’m a bit biased so I’d probably take woods.  

[ncballer]

 Woods is a freak.  Problem is he thinks WAYYY too much on the court.  You can feel the pressure he puts on himself to be a "pure" PG, when he should just quit worrying and play.  If he changed his mindset he’d be a top 15 player again.  

[ncballer]

 Apparently I have no access to edit my post anymore haha.  But when Woods does not think he is up there with Smith.  He put up 40 on him at the Glaxo invitational a year and a half ago.

[ncballer]

 Apparently I have no access to edit my post anymore haha.  But when Woods does not think he is up there with Smith.  He put up 40 on him at the Glaxo invitational a year and a half ago.

[ncballer]

 Woods is a freak.  Problem is he thinks WAYYY too much on the court.  You can feel the pressure he puts on himself to be a "pure" PG, when he should just quit worrying and play.  If he changed his mindset he’d be a top 15 player again.  

[Captain LParticipant]

 I’m from Utah and everything I’ve ever read about Jackson ( even since he was a freshman ) have had him 6’3 and a lot of articles / sites now have him 6’4 and that  IMO is a big difference in a point guard, it is hard to be elite without the needed size. 

[Captain LParticipant]

 I’m from Utah and everything I’ve ever read about Jackson ( even since he was a freshman ) have had him 6’3 and a lot of articles / sites now have him 6’4 and that  IMO is a big difference in a point guard, it is hard to be elite without the needed size. 

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

 I personally believe De’aaron Fox and Frank Jackson are the most likely to play PG in the NBA. Lonzo Ball is so fundmentally sound that I wouldn’t bet against him but I think he ends up playing the wing on the higher levels. Malik Monk and Kobi Simmons to me are scoring guards like Monte Ellis and Lou Williams. I was excited about Seventh Woods a few years ago but he seems to have fallen off a cliff. 

I personally believe Fox and Jackson will end up the best. I think they play established positions and are starter quality PG’s on the NBA level. I personally would take both of them over Dennis Smith also. 

 

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

 I personally believe De’aaron Fox and Frank Jackson are the most likely to play PG in the NBA. Lonzo Ball is so fundmentally sound that I wouldn’t bet against him but I think he ends up playing the wing on the higher levels. Malik Monk and Kobi Simmons to me are scoring guards like Monte Ellis and Lou Williams. I was excited about Seventh Woods a few years ago but he seems to have fallen off a cliff. 

I personally believe Fox and Jackson will end up the best. I think they play established positions and are starter quality PG’s on the NBA level. I personally would take both of them over Dennis Smith also. 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 I wouldn’t describe Lonzo Ball’s game as "fundamentally sound."  I think he’s the best passer in his class factoring in pure distribution, spraying the ball around, creativity and playmaking, but I think there’s a lot of risk- taking in his game.  He goes for the home run play a lot, including risky passes that he probably shouldn’t attempt, a lot of gambling defensively in the open court and taking quick, contested or super deep shots with no regard for shot selection.  Quite frankly, I think his father is doing him and his brothers a disservice encouraging and coaching them to play such a freewheeling, super high possession, frenetic style.  Their style of play resembles full court street ball and I think playing that way reinforces bad habits that they’ll have to unlearn at the higher levels.

I also can’t see him being anything other than a point.  He’s at his best on the ball.  If 1 PG on that list has a distributor’s mentality, it’s him. If he learns to tone the BS down, he could be the best pure passing point to come from this class.  Off the ball he’s not nearly as good of a prospect.

 

 

 

 

[GBeeParticipant]

 I wouldn’t describe Lonzo Ball’s game as "fundamentally sound."  I think he’s the best passer in his class factoring in pure distribution, spraying the ball around, creativity and playmaking, but I think there’s a lot of risk- taking in his game.  He goes for the home run play a lot, including risky passes that he probably shouldn’t attempt, a lot of gambling defensively in the open court and taking quick, contested or super deep shots with no regard for shot selection.  Quite frankly, I think his father is doing him and his brothers a disservice encouraging and coaching them to play such a freewheeling, super high possession, frenetic style.  Their style of play resembles full court street ball and I think playing that way reinforces bad habits that they’ll have to unlearn at the higher levels.

I also can’t see him being anything other than a point.  He’s at his best on the ball.  If 1 PG on that list has a distributor’s mentality, it’s him. If he learns to tone the BS down, he could be the best pure passing point to come from this class.  Off the ball he’s not nearly as good of a prospect.

 

 

 

 

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

Streetball? Chino Hills is one the best teams in California. They play a fast pace because they have the athletes to play that way. Do you think the Phoenix Suns played streetball?  The way you’re talking about them you would think they never win a game. 

[WinterSoldierParticipant]

Streetball? Chino Hills is one the best teams in California. They play a fast pace because they have the athletes to play that way. Do you think the Phoenix Suns played streetball?  The way you’re talking about them you would think they never win a game. 

[GBeeParticipant]

 Does Lonzo’s dad coach their HS team? I’m obviously referring to their AAU team. 

[GBeeParticipant]

 Does Lonzo’s dad coach their HS team? I’m obviously referring to their AAU team. 

[wonzi_bellsParticipant]

Depends if you’re talking about the college level or the NBA.

Malik Monk is would be my answer for both. For sure at the college level, I would say he’s clearly the best prospect. At the NBA level, just needs to show a smidge more better point guard skills to make me feel fully comfortable in terms of moving the ball around and showing more change of speeds. Also, could get better a shooting off the dribble. Nevertheless, I think he’s put himself firmly in the camp of being a point guard at the NBA level. 

Then Frank Jackson has the best qualities of how a point guard should score in the NBA since he can score at all three levels and shows change of speeds and is very athletic with a nice frame. He just not that great of a playmaker. He took a step this summer learning to become a point guard in the pick-and-roll but still a bit too turnover prone and lacks great vision.

Those are the two I like the best though.

 

 

 

[wonzi_bellsParticipant]

Depends if you’re talking about the college level or the NBA.

Malik Monk is would be my answer for both. For sure at the college level, I would say he’s clearly the best prospect. At the NBA level, just needs to show a smidge more better point guard skills to make me feel fully comfortable in terms of moving the ball around and showing more change of speeds. Also, could get better a shooting off the dribble. Nevertheless, I think he’s put himself firmly in the camp of being a point guard at the NBA level. 

Then Frank Jackson has the best qualities of how a point guard should score in the NBA since he can score at all three levels and shows change of speeds and is very athletic with a nice frame. He just not that great of a playmaker. He took a step this summer learning to become a point guard in the pick-and-roll but still a bit too turnover prone and lacks great vision.

Those are the two I like the best though.

 

 

 

[ncballer]

 As of now back to the original question, I’d say for me it’s either Jackson or Monk.  I think I will give the nod to Jackson due to the fact he is a more developed PG at the moment.  He has been spectacular on the circuit.  I think that Monk has the most upside out of all of them though.  

As of now I’d rank them (behind Smith):

1.  Jackson

2.  Monk

3.  Fox 

4.  Ball

5.  Simmons

6. Woods 

 

[ncballer]

 As of now back to the original question, I’d say for me it’s either Jackson or Monk.  I think I will give the nod to Jackson due to the fact he is a more developed PG at the moment.  He has been spectacular on the circuit.  I think that Monk has the most upside out of all of them though.  

As of now I’d rank them (behind Smith):

1.  Jackson

2.  Monk

3.  Fox 

4.  Ball

5.  Simmons

6. Woods 

 

[@MoneyBall_APParticipant]

The best guard in the 2016 class is hands down De’Aaron Fox (PG 6’4" 180 – Houston, TX)

Kid has a tenacity about him that none of those other can match, Monk being the closest. Fox is a dog offensively and defensively, a true killer on the court loving the stage of the biggest moments, takes pride in dominating his matchup, the kid is fearless like borderline crazy but its a crazy you have to love and respect. He is different (Westbrook-like). 

Has tremendous speed in the open floor, but always under control (great tempo), but in the half court his first step explosion he can get a piece of the paint at will, with vision and feel creating for open teammates. Fox is athletic as any guard in the class, displaying his athleticism not only making the rim pop, but also creating electrifying blocks in transition as well as in the half court. What seperates Fox from the other guys is his confidence and ownership of the floor at all times, Fox is ALPHA MALE he has no problem communicating sharing information as well as demanding action. Fox is creates an energy, enough energy for everyone to feed off of

 

I live in Houston so I have seen Fox plenty, but I also coach on the adidas gauntlet so I saw Simmons and Smith regularly, both very talented. This past weekend I watched Lonzo Ball several times, and he to is talented, I think long term he is a SG but time will tell. All are ultra athletic, but Fox’s court spirit as a competitor, he just plays more hungry more driven. Fox is having fun while playing.

[@MoneyBall_APParticipant]

The best guard in the 2016 class is hands down De’Aaron Fox (PG 6’4" 180 – Houston, TX)

Kid has a tenacity about him that none of those other can match, Monk being the closest. Fox is a dog offensively and defensively, a true killer on the court loving the stage of the biggest moments, takes pride in dominating his matchup, the kid is fearless like borderline crazy but its a crazy you have to love and respect. He is different (Westbrook-like). 

Has tremendous speed in the open floor, but always under control (great tempo), but in the half court his first step explosion he can get a piece of the paint at will, with vision and feel creating for open teammates. Fox is athletic as any guard in the class, displaying his athleticism not only making the rim pop, but also creating electrifying blocks in transition as well as in the half court. What seperates Fox from the other guys is his confidence and ownership of the floor at all times, Fox is ALPHA MALE he has no problem communicating sharing information as well as demanding action. Fox is creates an energy, enough energy for everyone to feed off of

 

I live in Houston so I have seen Fox plenty, but I also coach on the adidas gauntlet so I saw Simmons and Smith regularly, both very talented. This past weekend I watched Lonzo Ball several times, and he to is talented, I think long term he is a SG but time will tell. All are ultra athletic, but Fox’s court spirit as a competitor, he just plays more hungry more driven. Fox is having fun while playing.

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