[jrfloresssParticipant]

I think its North Carolina (6).. they may not have future All Stars but instead players who I think who have solid careers in the NBA.

Tyler Hansbrough
Ty Lawson
Wayne Ellington
Danny Green
Ed Davis
Deon Thompson

I think the other 2 freshmen (Tyler Zeller and Larry Drew) are legitimate prospects with good potential but since they don’t get to much playing time I would rather wait until next year to see what they can really do. But all 6 of the players I named (except MAYBE for Thompson) will be solid players.

[gberg23]

Yeah so really, they have 8. No contest, no other team in the nation is as deep as them or has the talent level and prospects.

[ncballer]

In terms of pure NBA potential, I think Tyler Zeller has the most from UNC. He is very athletic and shoots too freaking good for a 7 footer. It is too bad we didn’t get to really see him develop his freshman season. Remember Zeller beat out Ed Davis for the starting spot at the beginning of the year when Hansbrough was injured. Wake Forest has a lot of future NBA draft picks in Jeff Teague, James Johnson, LD Williams, Al-Farouq Aminu, Tony Woods, Chas McFarland, and possibly Ish Smith. UConn has to be in this discussion as well Thabeet, Robinson, Adrien, Dyson, Price, Walker. Gonzaga has Heyvelt, Bouldin, Daye, Pargo and Downs.

[James-Harden-13Participant]

a lot of people on here seem to have a different definition of an nba player than i do. it seems like you guys think that just because a kid gets drafted that makes him an nba player, when in actuality he may just be an nb-dl player. in terms of your actual question i think the ncaa tournament will prove that uconn is the answer. especially when taking into consideration what i just talked about, as to what constitutes an nba player. thabeet, jeff adrien, kemba walker, aj price, stanley robinson, and jerome dyson as a group are all just as talented and deep as the unc players you mentioned. i guess it just depends on which team you are a fan of. but in my opinion this north carolina team is nowhere near as talented as the 2005 team, whereas i feel this uconn team is.

[James-Harden-13Participant]

although i do have to say this ed davis kid is impressive. he is averaging 6 points 7 boards and almost 2 blocks in only 19 minutes of play. way more intriguing than deon thompson, larry drew, and tyler zeller (before he was injured)

[gberg23]

Yeah, you right I was just thinking of people getting drafted as players and Ed Davis is definitely the best prospect on UNC.

[James-Harden-13Participant]

i am not necessarily saying that unc has guys that will be in the d league their whole career. who knows maybe uconn will have as many drafted players end up in the d league as drafted unc players. regardless, aside from uconn imo, unc is the most talented and deep of all the teams in the ncaa. hopefully they meet up in the championship.

[jrfloresssParticipant]

besides unc i was gonna say uconn.. they also have a very deep and talented team.. but in the end i just felt unc had more nba caliber players on their current roster which was my orginal question.. i hope they meet in the championship 2! but idk.. im kinda iffy about stanley robinson and jeff adrien.. robinson has no real nba attribute besides his athleticism and ability to dunk.. and although adrien is a beast i still think undersized big men are questionable..dont get me wrong tho i love players lyk that .. jason maxiell, paul millsap, leon powe.. the only one on unc im not sold on really is deon thompson..but minus thompson from the starting lineup and add ed davis and u have a contending nbdl starting lineup .. lol jk.. but seriously .. unc ftw! next year john henson and dexter strickland.. possibly wayne ellington and ed davis… damnnnnn

[ncballer]

jrdafilapino1, you raise a great point. UNC has a lot of iffy draft prospects (see my thread on Ty Lawson for a huge debate) but next season will have for sure 3-4 lottery picks on their roster in Henson, Davis, Strickland, and Zeller (assuming he makes the improvements he should in the offseason) and possibly McDonald down the road. Henson will be an absolute BEAST his freshman season. Think of a longer Al-Farouq Aminu. He is about 6’11” still growing has the athleticism of a guard and could play all positions on the court. Where me nbadraft.net differ again I think Henson is a top 5 pick on potential alone in the 2010 draft. I am with you on Thompson too. He is downright soft as tissue paper. Has some potential but way to soft to be succesful in the league.

[James-Harden-13Participant]

unc is going to be sick next year for sure. john henson is the best pro prospect unc has had since marvin williams.

[canesboy6Participant]

He coulda redshirted cuz of the injury, but decided to come back late. Seems like he doesnt have staying all four years in mind. The kid is really skilled, really athletic, and really tall. He is listed at 7 feet, and is no smaller than 6’11. Youtube it, he can run and get up, his head is rim level. She also is a great shooter, and has a few post moves. I could see him bieng a lottery type player with a little hype behind him, i really do. If he can fill out even 10 pounds or so next year after a deep tourney run, there will be alot of people on hte TZ bandwagon trust me, he could even eclipse davis down the road. As for Larry Drew, That might be a stretch. He has looked awful all year, but he is only a freshman. 4 years at carolina, barring a serious injury, makes you an NBA prospect to some degree no matter what. One player that nobody mentioned with them is Marcus Ginyard, on medical redshirt this year. He was on this site and draft express in the second round all of last year till he got the stress fracture which has been slow to heal. It isn’t a career threatening type at all though, and he will be back next year to lead a young talented team, ala david noel who got drafted early second round. Watch out for Ginyard, remember Danny green has sat on the bench behind MG his whole career till the injury.

[canesboy6Participant]

sorry TZ

[jrfloresssParticipant]

yea danny green has been playing behind marcus ginyard.. but now that he is showing what he can do.. who seems like the better prospect to you? i have no idea why ginyard ever started ahead of green.. both are good defensive players but w.e.. dannys showing the world who Roy Williams shoulda been starting all along.. oh but canesboy6 i deff agree on TZ.. this kid has all the tools to become a really good nba player

[Henry25Participant]

Obviously UNC is by far the most talented team and I’m a huge UNC fan as well, but I wont be suprised if Duke’s top players end up being better pros than UNC’s. Now i know that wasn’t the question, but still. Gerald Henderson, Kyle Singler, Nolan Smith, Eric Williams, and possibly Greg Paulus (but probably not) with all play in the NBA. Think about it Henderson has a lot more potential than Ellington due to his athleticism, I love Hansbrough and i think he will be a good pro but Singler is special and Im a big fan of him, Nolan Smith has more potential than Lawson in my book, and finally the freshamn Eric Williams is prettt damn good. ACC better watch out for him next year when all these dudes either leave or graduate

[ncballer]

Henry25, I love Elliot Williams from Duke. I can’t believe it took Coach K that long to play him! Kid is a fighter, a freak athlete and willing to do the little things. It is hard not to love the kid. I am one of the few that thinks Ellingtons game will translate in the pros moreso than Henderson, but my gosh Henderson has taken his game to a new level recently and I will be the first to admit that I would love a team at UNC with 5 Hendersons. I may have to eat my words later. I completely agree about Singler, I don’t think Hansbroughs game translates as good as his in the pros. I don’t see Smith and Paulus in the NBA. Smith is as inconsistant as they come and Paulus while he puts in a ton of effort will get abused trying to guard NBA PG’s. Smith has plenty of time to improve and have me eat my words though.

[DanEboyParticipant]

Remind me again why people always bring up Jerome Dyson as being an NBA player. He is an average shooting 6’4 guard with no real above average skill. He seems like a dime a dozen player to me.

[aio2002Participant]

Wake and UConn have the best prospects.

[aio2002Participant]

Ty Lawson is worse prospect than Raymond Felton so I figure he would be a worse pro than Felton. Wayne Ellington is a worse prospect than Joe Forte and Rashad Mccants, so I expect similar results. Hansbrough is a second rounder. I think Denny Green will be the best pro of the bunch, but it’s hard to really get a gauge of how good he is since he’s playing with such great college players. Deon Thompson would be a backup. Zeller/Davis are both long and soft big men. John Henson is 6’10” 200 so he’s more like Brendan Wright than Marvin Williams. I like Dexter Strickland..Idon’t see too much coming out of these UNC players besides Strickland and Green.

[jorrye24]

UNC,Uconn,Wake,and dont forget about Cuse either. These teams have the players that are most likely to CONTRIBUTE to their teams, not just have their names on the rosters.

[ncballer]

aio2002 I don’t think I will be able to convince you about Lawson, and Ellington. I am the complete oppisite of you. I feel like Lawson and Ellington will be solid starters while Danny Green will be a backup for all his career and be completely happy about it. I am fine with that, I respect it, and I understand it. That being said, I don’t think you have watched Ed Davis play if you think he is soft and IMHO it is unfair to judge Zeller because his development was hindered by his wrist injury. Davis is a scrappy player who doesn’t back down and if Zeller puts in the work over the offseason, he should be a lottery pick in the next two years. Basing Henson’s game off his height and weight isn’t telling the whole story. Mainly because Henson is a SF and was recruited to play SF at UNC. He is an AK47 type player with more potential because Henson is still growing. That is why he is the best pure NBA prospect to come to UNC since Marvin Williams. The only thing Brandan Wright can claim over Henson is he is a notch more athletic.

[Iceman913Participant]

UCONN 4 sure guys in Thabeet, Walker, Robinson, and Price, possible Adrien and Dyson…Edwards shows some potential and Majok is a freak but is ineligable at the moment POSSIBLE (8)
Duke 2 sure guys in Henderson and Singler, Scheyer and Williams both likely…Smith maybe after his senior year very good at getting to the rim…Plumlee to early to tell….Zoubek (size), Thomas (athletism), and Paulus (shooting ability) all have something that make them long shots POSSIBLE (9)
Georgetown Monroe and Summers of course… Wright and Freeman look like decent bets…and Sims will likely shine in Georgetowns system after Monroe leaves POSSIBLE (5)
Kansas has Collins and Aldrich look like sure bets Taylor should be too…the Morris twins maybe as Junior or Seniors
POSSIBLE (5)
Louisville maybe not the most but i think they have 4 first rounders in Clark, Williams, Samuels and Jennings
POSSIBLE (4)
North Carolina Davis, Ellington, Green, Hansbrough, and Lawson locks Zeller, Ginyard, and Thompson have good shots, Drew long shot POSSIBLE (9)
Ohio State Turner, Buford, Mullens for sure first rounders if not lotto, Lauderdale (excellent shot blocker), Diebler (great shooter), Lighty (lockdown defender) could play roles in the nba POSSIBLE 6
Texas I think James and Pittman will be good NBA players…everyone is high on Atchley for some reason… Abrams?? Johnson if he gets a perimater game…Balbay has really helped this team idk if he can play in the NBA though POSSIBLE 6 (stretching it)
UCLA Collison and Holiday of course… Shipp and Aboya should get PIT invites…four talented freshman in Anderson, Gordon, Lee and Morgan outside Holiday POSSIBLE 8
Wake Forest Teague, Aminu, Johnson, and Woods all should play in the NBA…Walker, Weaver, and McFarland all have great size Walkers the best prospect out of the 3…Smith and Williams long shots POSSIBLE 9

[aio2002Participant]

ncballer, we can disagree, even though i still stand by my position. I still haven’t seen Lawson run a half court offense which is what scouts are looking for. Yeah he’s dynamite in transition but he won’t get these easy transition baskets in the NBA. And please don’t give me examples like how he played against Georgia Tech…Tech has possibly the worst pgs in the ACC so that’s not enough for me. I’ve seen Ed Davis play ALOT and he’s long and not physical at all…he would get pushed around in the paint just like Brandan Wright gets pushed around now because of his lack of weight. Ellington CANNOT create his own shot and he’s not quick and he’s good shooter, but again, he’s a WORSE prospect than both Mccants and Forte, so why should I believe he’ll be a better pro than both. There’s a reason why he came back for his junior season. I really can’t comment on Zeller since he’s been hurt all year. I’ve never seen Henson play (really I don’t know if you have either) but what I do know is that he’s 6’10” 200…honestly 6’10” 200 SCREAMS Brendan Wright more than AK47. And he’s not the best pure prospect since Marvin Williams…Brendan Wright was the number 3 recruit behind Greg Oden and Kevin Durant based on Rivals.com . Here’s the link: http://rivalshoops.rivals.com/viewrank.asp. Hensen is number 5. Hensen is one inch taller yet he weighs one pound less than Wright. Again tell me why is the wright comparison not legit?

As far as the Duke recruits go Henderson is top 10 and Singler is probably late first rounder (he would look good in a Utah jersey). If Henderson stays one more year and improves his ball handling, he’s top 3. Williams might eventually wind up being a mid to late first rounder.

Yes, I’m a Duke alum, just like you’re a die hard tar heel fan based on your posts, but I’m not a homer. I love Felton and May when they were both at UNC. And I know Paulus, Smith, Zoubek, Thomas, etc have no chance of playing in the NBA. Henderson, Singler, and Williams probably will but really the only guy who has a chance of being a decent pro is Henderson. I think Green is your teams best chance of having a decent pro because of his versatility and his high basketball IQ. Good luck this Sunday at the Dean Dome.

[ncballer]

I apreciate the class aio. It’s good to know that not we as UNC and Duke fans can come to some medium and agree on some stuff. Still disagree on Lawson, and Ellington is more of just a gut feeling. If anything his head is on straight moreso than Forte and McCants’. I do agree somewhat on Davis, but give him 20 lbs and no one will move him. He was blocking shots left and right last night had something like 6 blocks in 15 min. I apologize if I sound like a homer, I am honestly trying my best not to sound like one. I saw Henson dominate Renardo Sidney in an AAU tourney that was broadcasted online. He and Wright’s body types are similar but people seem to forget that two years ago he was a mid-major SG prospect standing at 6’4″. He has kept most of his guard skills and his doctor says he will probably top off at 7’0″. Wright didn’t really have any guard skills and got by off his freak athleticism. Henson is an explosive athlete, but not to extent that Wright is. Henson has him in ball handling, shooting, passing, competiveness, and rebounding Wright has him in athleticism. If we were to make comparisons based 100% off of body types I would throw the Kevin Durant comparison out there. (Henson is moreso like Durant than Wright anyway, but I don’t see Henson having Durant’s impact) I use scout rather than Rivals and scout has Henson at number 3 behind Favors and Wall (who I think is a tad overrated at number 2 but that is another story). I gotta hand it to Henderson too I would love 5 of him at UNC. I think Smith could find himself in the NBA if he finds any sort of consistancy. As far as Green goes, I don’t really see much room for improvement in his game IMHO he has peaked and will be a career backup. By the way I hope you are excited next year for Ryan Kelly. I was p!ssed when I found out he was going to Duke. The kid is a stud moves well for his size, a smart heads up basketball player. He is a great fit for Duke’s system and will probably have a similar impact as Singler did (especially if Sinlger goes pro after this year). And best of luck at Chapel Hill on Sunday as well.

[sauer1525Participant]

I like UCONN personally….Price, walker, robinson, dyson, adrian, thabeet…i think Gavin Edwards has potential…could be like Hilton Armstrong was a few years ago, someone who gradually got better through the years and became a good college player and an NBA prospect.

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