[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Just read a bold prediction from Kevin Pelton via ESPN "5 on 5 article on free agency. He predicted that Utah would succeed in scaring teams from offering the max to Gordon Hayward, and then promptly re-sign Hayward to a deal lower than the max. (I would assume 8-10 million a year for 2-3 years). 

I doubt Kevin Pelton is right, but it made me wonder when was the last time something like this happened? In all my years of being a basketball fan I don’t think I have ever seen a restricted free-agent re-sign with his previous team for less than the max because no other team in the NBA was interested in signing him to a max contract. I could be wrong though, because my memory is not too great. So I am curious, all you basketball gurus when has something like this happened? And who was the player? If this does indeed happen, is it bad for Hayward going forward? 

Like I said, I doubt it will happen. I’m confident that Hayward will find a max offer from another team, sign that offer sheet and then the Jazz promptly match the offer and bring him back for the 2014-2015 season. But I’m curious has the opposite alternative happened before in the league?

 

 

[LOFTYParticipant]

why would that scare other teams away from Hayward?

[LOFTYParticipant]

why would that scare other teams away from Hayward?

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

I don’t know, just something that perked my interest. I don’t agree with Pelton, but I’m curious, has it ever happened before?

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

I don’t know, just something that perked my interest. I don’t agree with Pelton, but I’m curious, has it ever happened before?

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 No team would sign him and his team the Bucks at the time signed Jeff Teague to a 3 year 24 million dollar deal. After the Hawks matched he then would have had to sign a QO and play out the year, workout a long term deal with Bucks or do a sign and trade. He ended up with a sign and trade to the Pistons for 3 years 24 million. 

I think there would be two much bad blood for Pelton to be right. 

I always wondered why a RFA doesn’t just sign a bigger than QO one year deal somewhere and then walk next year. Hayward could sign a one year 13 million dollar deal with the Sixers or Magic. The Sixers will have cap left and that could guarantee Hayward free agency next year as Hinkie would trade him by the deadline. Thats at least double the QO. 

 

[TheArtistPaysthePriceParticipant]

 No team would sign him and his team the Bucks at the time signed Jeff Teague to a 3 year 24 million dollar deal. After the Hawks matched he then would have had to sign a QO and play out the year, workout a long term deal with Bucks or do a sign and trade. He ended up with a sign and trade to the Pistons for 3 years 24 million. 

I think there would be two much bad blood for Pelton to be right. 

I always wondered why a RFA doesn’t just sign a bigger than QO one year deal somewhere and then walk next year. Hayward could sign a one year 13 million dollar deal with the Sixers or Magic. The Sixers will have cap left and that could guarantee Hayward free agency next year as Hinkie would trade him by the deadline. Thats at least double the QO. 

 

[0pu1ck7Participant]

The last restricted free agent to agree (don’t know if he’s signed yet) to a contract with his previous team that wasn’t a max contract is Avery Bradely. But to answer what I think is your actual question, I think its happening right now during last season Detroit’s front office said they would match a max contract if it was offered to Monroe, and for the time being it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen. But that may change after some of the big name free agents sign with teams. We’ll just have to wait and see how that situation unfolds.

[0pu1ck7Participant]

The last restricted free agent to agree (don’t know if he’s signed yet) to a contract with his previous team that wasn’t a max contract is Avery Bradely. But to answer what I think is your actual question, I think its happening right now during last season Detroit’s front office said they would match a max contract if it was offered to Monroe, and for the time being it doesn’t seem like that’s going to happen. But that may change after some of the big name free agents sign with teams. We’ll just have to wait and see how that situation unfolds.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

There have been instances where teams have told guys to get a deal and they’ll match it. Josh Smith signed a tender sheet with Memphis and Atlanta matched it. Marc Gasol signed a tender sheet with Houston and Memphis matched it. Two years ago, Eric Gordon was in this situation, and was not pleased with New Orleans matching the offer. Last summer, it was Jeff Teague. None of them were max money. Gordon Hayward is not a "max player." Congrats to his agent to get it out into the basketball world that he is, but did anyone ever watched Utah? The Jazz front office has probably told him to go get a deal, and they will match it. Mark Bartelstein then says Utah won’t match a max deal, now it is floated to every awful team that they can have Hayward at max money. It boggles the mind anyone wants this scenerio, because we have clear evidence of what happens when Gordon Hayward is made the most important player by an organization: 25-57. If by August, no deal is met, then it is very possible Utah gives him a deal like they gave Derrick Favors, which isn’t taking less nor is it particularly meaningful for a long-term rebuilding. It would, however, help get them to the cap floor and the whole show of July changes the expectations so that everyone is happy and looking good despite the Jazz probably having $25 million per year for each of the next four wrapped up in Derrick Favors and Gordon Hayward.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

There have been instances where teams have told guys to get a deal and they’ll match it. Josh Smith signed a tender sheet with Memphis and Atlanta matched it. Marc Gasol signed a tender sheet with Houston and Memphis matched it. Two years ago, Eric Gordon was in this situation, and was not pleased with New Orleans matching the offer. Last summer, it was Jeff Teague. None of them were max money. Gordon Hayward is not a "max player." Congrats to his agent to get it out into the basketball world that he is, but did anyone ever watched Utah? The Jazz front office has probably told him to go get a deal, and they will match it. Mark Bartelstein then says Utah won’t match a max deal, now it is floated to every awful team that they can have Hayward at max money. It boggles the mind anyone wants this scenerio, because we have clear evidence of what happens when Gordon Hayward is made the most important player by an organization: 25-57. If by August, no deal is met, then it is very possible Utah gives him a deal like they gave Derrick Favors, which isn’t taking less nor is it particularly meaningful for a long-term rebuilding. It would, however, help get them to the cap floor and the whole show of July changes the expectations so that everyone is happy and looking good despite the Jazz probably having $25 million per year for each of the next four wrapped up in Derrick Favors and Gordon Hayward.

[LOFTYParticipant]

Jordan hates the jazz!

[LOFTYParticipant]

Jordan hates the jazz!

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