[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 The Jazz need to get rid of AK because he costs way too much. As much as it pains me to say that it is the truth. There is no way the Jazz can succeed unless they get rid of AK. When you’ve been a jazz fan for as long as I have, you begin to realize that just making it to the 2nd round year in and year out isn’t good enough. So if the Jazz do that again this year then it is considered a failure. Plain and simple as that a failure. This is exactly what I believe will happen if they do not get rid of AK and trade his humongous contract. So here is my proposal that will help the Jazz succeed as well as the other teams involved.

http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2b27tsc

The Jazz need a 2 guard who has a lot of talent, can shoot well, and can succeed next to Dwill. I’ve said that many times before. J-rich would be perfect but the 2 guard needs to be young not someone who has reached his prime and can not get any better. Stuckey should work but he can’t shoot. Same with Terrance Williams and his attitude is questionable. He needs to be able to get along with Coach Sloan, and I doubt T-will could do that. And besides having two Williams on the same team would just be too confusing. So what OJ Mayo, who seems to have fallen out of favor in Memphis? He can shoot, he’s young. And his attitude has not caused him to be the sixth man. Tayshaun Prince is the best replacement for AK’s stingy defense, no he’s not gonna block a ton of shots but his defense can replace AK’s better than any other player could except for of course AK.

The Grizzlies have been looking for a way to get rid of Randolph’s contract because they realize it hinders them, and they do not want to resign him. But once they do trade him they need someone to replace him because Arthur is not ready to do it and I don’t think they want to end up like the Suns when Amare left for New York. Ilyasova is not a great replacement but his contract is alot smaller than Randolph’s and it can allow the Grizzlies to train someone else to replace him. Maybe Arthur or someone from this year’s draft (Sullinger, Derek Williams, or Thompkins would be nice) Also Henry has replaced Mayo in the Starting lineup but even he does not look like he has relished the role. So that is why Redd is involved. He can help Henry develop into the player the Grizz need. And his contract is only for a year, so next year they can just resign him for much much cheaper.

The Bucks need someone who can help ease the pain of Bogut’s injuries. Right now they are using Sanders, and he’s done okay, but not great. He too is a rookie like Henry and he also needs the presence of a veteran to help him grow and become the player the Bucks need him to be. Randolph’s contract is also up this year, and I think the Bucks would be willing to resign him as long as does his job which is to help mold Sanders into becoming their starting 4 alongside Bogut. 

What do guys think of this trade? I really like it and I hope the 4 teams can pull it off because I think it would really help all 4 teams involved. 

[goneParticipant]

I think some Jazz fans would beg to differ

[goneParticipant]

I think some Jazz fans would beg to differ

[TyroberParticipant]

 I really like this trade for the Jazz and Bucks but I dont see why the Pistons and Grizzlies would do it. Prince is the Pistons best trade asset so why would they trade him for another ending deal. What is the point of the Grizzlies getting rid of Zach Randolph AND OJ Mayo for an expiring contract? If they want an expiring contract they already have it in Randolph. Why would they trade a player that is helping them and GIVE away their young star in Mayo. It does appear that they are wanting to trade Mayo but they arent going to GIVE him away. Redd is done so I am confused as to why you think the Grizzlies would trade Mayo and Randolph for Redd

[TyroberParticipant]

 I really like this trade for the Jazz and Bucks but I dont see why the Pistons and Grizzlies would do it. Prince is the Pistons best trade asset so why would they trade him for another ending deal. What is the point of the Grizzlies getting rid of Zach Randolph AND OJ Mayo for an expiring contract? If they want an expiring contract they already have it in Randolph. Why would they trade a player that is helping them and GIVE away their young star in Mayo. It does appear that they are wanting to trade Mayo but they arent going to GIVE him away. Redd is done so I am confused as to why you think the Grizzlies would trade Mayo and Randolph for Redd

[SubZeroParticipant]

The Bucks would do that in a heartbeat. The Grizz kinda get screwed though…doubt anyone would want to take on Redd’s contract, especially with the question of how long he’ll even be able to play.

[SubZeroParticipant]

The Bucks would do that in a heartbeat. The Grizz kinda get screwed though…doubt anyone would want to take on Redd’s contract, especially with the question of how long he’ll even be able to play.

[PlatypusParticipant]

Memphis gives waay too much up there, 2 starters for, a bench pf and a player who cant play anymore but has a huge expiring contract like one of there starters, HE%L NO

randolph > Illyasova

Redd < Mayo

Redd’s expiring deal > Randolph’s (by 500,000 ish)

 

why do this trade?

[PlatypusParticipant]

Memphis gives waay too much up there, 2 starters for, a bench pf and a player who cant play anymore but has a huge expiring contract like one of there starters, HE%L NO

randolph > Illyasova

Redd < Mayo

Redd’s expiring deal > Randolph’s (by 500,000 ish)

 

why do this trade?

[PlatypusParticipant]

Pistons will give Prince and Rip for Redd and CDR or Delfino if they want

[PlatypusParticipant]

Pistons will give Prince and Rip for Redd and CDR or Delfino if they want

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Explain to me Wizkid why some Jazz fans would beg to differ. You have to realize that making it to the second round year in and year out and loosing to the Lakers is a failure. And that is exactly what the Jazz have been doing and will continue to do unless they get rid of AK and trade him for a suitable 2 guard that can really develop alongside DWill, Jefferson and Millsap. I don’t like getting rid of AK either but it has to be that way in order for the Jazz to succeed. 

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Explain to me Wizkid why some Jazz fans would beg to differ. You have to realize that making it to the second round year in and year out and loosing to the Lakers is a failure. And that is exactly what the Jazz have been doing and will continue to do unless they get rid of AK and trade him for a suitable 2 guard that can really develop alongside DWill, Jefferson and Millsap. I don’t like getting rid of AK either but it has to be that way in order for the Jazz to succeed. 

[Counting StarsParticipant]

1. AK’s contract is up after this season and the Jazz should be able to resign him for much less.

2. AK brings a lot of things that don’t show up in the box score to that team. He’s the quintessential glue guy. Help defense, passing, versatility, there’s a long list of what AK does for the Jazz.

3. Jerry Sloan would kill OJ Mayo.

[Counting StarsParticipant]

1. AK’s contract is up after this season and the Jazz should be able to resign him for much less.

2. AK brings a lot of things that don’t show up in the box score to that team. He’s the quintessential glue guy. Help defense, passing, versatility, there’s a long list of what AK does for the Jazz.

3. Jerry Sloan would kill OJ Mayo.

[goneParticipant]

The Jazz lose to LA every year because they are undersized. AK is an exceptional playmaker as well as defender. I dont see Al or Milsap blocking any shots. If you bring in a 2 guard that takes away the Raja Bell effect who was brought in to check Kobe

[goneParticipant]

The Jazz lose to LA every year because they are undersized. AK is an exceptional playmaker as well as defender. I dont see Al or Milsap blocking any shots. If you bring in a 2 guard that takes away the Raja Bell effect who was brought in to check Kobe

[Lotto StudParticipant]

O.J. IS GOING NOWHERE!!!!!!!

[Lotto StudParticipant]

O.J. IS GOING NOWHERE!!!!!!!

[QUINCEY HODGES1]

Size kills the jazz against my lakers every year and the fans know it. I  rub it in there face every chance i get when i go to a playoff game here in Utah when the lakers play them. It’s all in good fun though but they understand the lakers is the wall that they can’t seem to climb. Subtract the lakers and the Jazz would come out the west a couple of times in the past couple of years

[QUINCEY HODGES1]

Size kills the jazz against my lakers every year and the fans know it. I  rub it in there face every chance i get when i go to a playoff game here in Utah when the lakers play them. It’s all in good fun though but they understand the lakers is the wall that they can’t seem to climb. Subtract the lakers and the Jazz would come out the west a couple of times in the past couple of years

[bigblackNbeautifulParticipant]

 This trade sucks.

[bigblackNbeautifulParticipant]

 This trade sucks.

[bigblackNbeautifulParticipant]

 This trade sucks.

[bigblackNbeautifulParticipant]

 This trade sucks.

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Yes the jazz can resign AK for much cheaper at the end of the season, but that’s not gonna help them. Yes he is the glue guy, but they could really use a 2 guard like Mayo, or Stuckey, or T-will, or maybe a young J-Rich. With AK still there there is no way the Jazz can sign this 2 guard. Do the math, its not gonna happen no matter how small you resign AK for. And just because the Jazz sign another 2 guard doesn’t mean they are getting rid of Bell, wizkid. They can still use him as a backup. I realize size kills the Jazz when they play the Lakers but I seriously think a 2 guard with the caliber of a Jason Richardson would help them more than hurt them and could help them get past the Lakers. 

And Wizkid you don’t know what you are talking about. Millsap and Big Al block alot more shots then you think. Big AL is on my fantasy team and he gets about 1.5 blocks per game, which is about what AK gets too. And Millsap, gets about 0.8 blocks a game. I’m sure thats a lot more than you think. 

[SwatLakeCityParticipant]

 Yes the jazz can resign AK for much cheaper at the end of the season, but that’s not gonna help them. Yes he is the glue guy, but they could really use a 2 guard like Mayo, or Stuckey, or T-will, or maybe a young J-Rich. With AK still there there is no way the Jazz can sign this 2 guard. Do the math, its not gonna happen no matter how small you resign AK for. And just because the Jazz sign another 2 guard doesn’t mean they are getting rid of Bell, wizkid. They can still use him as a backup. I realize size kills the Jazz when they play the Lakers but I seriously think a 2 guard with the caliber of a Jason Richardson would help them more than hurt them and could help them get past the Lakers. 

And Wizkid you don’t know what you are talking about. Millsap and Big Al block alot more shots then you think. Big AL is on my fantasy team and he gets about 1.5 blocks per game, which is about what AK gets too. And Millsap, gets about 0.8 blocks a game. I’m sure thats a lot more than you think. 

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

I really think what the Jazz need is the decline of the Lakers core, which isn’t happening yet, but will probably start to happen in a few years. 

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

I really think what the Jazz need is the decline of the Lakers core, which isn’t happening yet, but will probably start to happen in a few years. 

[QUINCEY HODGES1]

Exactly. the Laker’s decline or a bunch of injuries is the only hope for the jazz gettng past the lakers

[QUINCEY HODGES1]

Exactly. the Laker’s decline or a bunch of injuries is the only hope for the jazz gettng past the lakers

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

But I mean, that could very well happen 3-4 years down the line, Kobe will be getting old, Pau will be in his mid 30s, Artest will be old. Luckily for the Jazz, they are still relatively young and they might be able to wait it out until then. 

[Im Your FatherParticipant]

But I mean, that could very well happen 3-4 years down the line, Kobe will be getting old, Pau will be in his mid 30s, Artest will be old. Luckily for the Jazz, they are still relatively young and they might be able to wait it out until then. 

[bigblackNbeautifulParticipant]

 Watch how many touches and possesions run through him.

To show how valuable he is…

AK is 2nd on the team in assists, The third leading rebounder(Which is huge cause the jazz dont do well on the glass),  Third on the team in steals, 2nd in blocks, 4th in points and mins. thats huge impact. Frankly idk if mayo could replace that productivity. The only thing would improve is our 3 point shooting, which frankly isnt worth the lost help inside. Also i beleive mayo is only an improvement over miles. Sure its a big improvement, but they have the same role as instant offense. This means you would have 2 of your starters( assuming miles would have to play the 3 cause hayward aint ready) as offensive minded players looking for there shots. Well Ak is our 2nd playmaker on the court and looks to get others involved something mayo and miles dont do. Also that makes us a even weaker rebounding team. 

My solution is draft a young sg in the draft. develop them behind bell. Then let them into a starter.

or sign j rich. either way dont lose ak

[bigblackNbeautifulParticipant]

 Watch how many touches and possesions run through him.

To show how valuable he is…

AK is 2nd on the team in assists, The third leading rebounder(Which is huge cause the jazz dont do well on the glass),  Third on the team in steals, 2nd in blocks, 4th in points and mins. thats huge impact. Frankly idk if mayo could replace that productivity. The only thing would improve is our 3 point shooting, which frankly isnt worth the lost help inside. Also i beleive mayo is only an improvement over miles. Sure its a big improvement, but they have the same role as instant offense. This means you would have 2 of your starters( assuming miles would have to play the 3 cause hayward aint ready) as offensive minded players looking for there shots. Well Ak is our 2nd playmaker on the court and looks to get others involved something mayo and miles dont do. Also that makes us a even weaker rebounding team. 

My solution is draft a young sg in the draft. develop them behind bell. Then let them into a starter.

or sign j rich. either way dont lose ak

[QUINCEY HODGES1]

yea waiting it out might work if DWill stays which is 50/50 especially with his comment after brewer got traded " see this is why i only signed on for 3 more years"

[QUINCEY HODGES1]

yea waiting it out might work if DWill stays which is 50/50 especially with his comment after brewer got traded " see this is why i only signed on for 3 more years"

[CodySLCParticipant]

I dont see this trade happening. A.K. is a huge asset with his play making and defence. The only way he get traded is if a team gives away a much better play to get his huge expiring contract of around 18 mil. Otherwise the Jazz just wait, get the cap relief and just resign him for alot less. Even if he is traded he still might resign next season.

[CodySLCParticipant]

I dont see this trade happening. A.K. is a huge asset with his play making and defence. The only way he get traded is if a team gives away a much better play to get his huge expiring contract of around 18 mil. Otherwise the Jazz just wait, get the cap relief and just resign him for alot less. Even if he is traded he still might resign next season.

[JNixonParticipant]

Butidonthavemoney just might eat you alive for making this post.

[JNixonParticipant]

Butidonthavemoney just might eat you alive for making this post.

[butidonthavemoney]

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