[lakanoParticipant]

You often hear commentators suggesting that when a team is debating on whether to draft a small or a big .. to go big or go home

The Blazers are the most obvious team to FAIL by sticking to this idea
missed out on Jordan and Durant

what other teams have been led down the path of failure by following this horrible idea

[PlatypusParticipant]

Darko over Mello, Wade and many others…..

[PlatypusParticipant]

Darko over Mello, Wade and many others…..

[ghettosermonParticipant]

Shelden Williams over Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay. Hasheem Thabeet over Tyreke Evans or Stephen Curry.

[ghettosermonParticipant]

Shelden Williams over Brandon Roy and Rudy Gay. Hasheem Thabeet over Tyreke Evans or Stephen Curry.

[JoeWolf1]

Egh, it goes both ways man, could you imagine what kind of crap a team like San Antonio would have gotten if they drafted Keith Van Horn or Chauncey Billups over Tim Duncan, or Armon Gilliam or Dennis Hopson over David Robinson??? They went big and won a hand full of rings with those choices.

Charlotte and Orlando also went big in 1992, drafting Shaq and Zo, if they hadn’t gone big they would have ended up with Christian Lattener and Jimmy Jackson.

Could you imagine if Orlando would have gone with Ben Gordon or Sean Livingston over Dwight Howard? Lucius Allen was the first guard taken after Lew Alcinder in 1969, he has 9,407 career points Kareem has 38,387

For every team picking a bust big man before a superstar there is a team who picked big and won as a result. It goes both ways, I don’t think San Antonio, Orlando, New York, Charlotte, or a hand full of any teams that have had a dominant center consider going big a horrible path.

[JoeWolf1]

Egh, it goes both ways man, could you imagine what kind of crap a team like San Antonio would have gotten if they drafted Keith Van Horn or Chauncey Billups over Tim Duncan, or Armon Gilliam or Dennis Hopson over David Robinson??? They went big and won a hand full of rings with those choices.

Charlotte and Orlando also went big in 1992, drafting Shaq and Zo, if they hadn’t gone big they would have ended up with Christian Lattener and Jimmy Jackson.

Could you imagine if Orlando would have gone with Ben Gordon or Sean Livingston over Dwight Howard? Lucius Allen was the first guard taken after Lew Alcinder in 1969, he has 9,407 career points Kareem has 38,387

For every team picking a bust big man before a superstar there is a team who picked big and won as a result. It goes both ways, I don’t think San Antonio, Orlando, New York, Charlotte, or a hand full of any teams that have had a dominant center consider going big a horrible path.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Joe Wolf I agree and Oden has been hurt. I think healty it would be a 1a and 1b situation but honestly Portland needed a 3 and should have taken Durant.

Memphis had a lot of young talent and I guess they really did not need anyone cept maybe a big because they did not know Marc Gasol would be as good and they had Randolph, Gay, Mayo. Evans before the draft people had him going like 8 – 12 and a lot of people though Kings were dumb for taking him fourth. I still think Thabeet at 2 was not a wise move. Memphis should have traded possibly with New York where New York could have taken Curry or Rubio and Memphis could have had extra picks and the number 9 pick to work with

[sheltwon3Participant]

Joe Wolf I agree and Oden has been hurt. I think healty it would be a 1a and 1b situation but honestly Portland needed a 3 and should have taken Durant.

Memphis had a lot of young talent and I guess they really did not need anyone cept maybe a big because they did not know Marc Gasol would be as good and they had Randolph, Gay, Mayo. Evans before the draft people had him going like 8 – 12 and a lot of people though Kings were dumb for taking him fourth. I still think Thabeet at 2 was not a wise move. Memphis should have traded possibly with New York where New York could have taken Curry or Rubio and Memphis could have had extra picks and the number 9 pick to work with

[sheltwon3Participant]

Thabeet can still turn into a Camby or Dalembert like player though so it could work out because I am thinking Marc Gasol may leave because a lot of Spanish players are not feeling Memphis. When Marc leaves, Thabeet may be on Dalembert’s level.

[sheltwon3Participant]

Thabeet can still turn into a Camby or Dalembert like player though so it could work out because I am thinking Marc Gasol may leave because a lot of Spanish players are not feeling Memphis. When Marc leaves, Thabeet may be on Dalembert’s level.

[JoeWolf1]

I read this earlier on insider, and it’s kind relevant to this thread. Its an injury update on Oden. You’re right Swelton, Oden when healthy last year was a force and a top 3 shotblocker, averaged close to 10 rebs and shot 60% from the feild in 24 mpg. That was a 1a, 1b situation at the time, much like Jordan and Olajuwon. Now Oden just has to stay healthy

There was some talk that Greg Oden, recovering from knee surgery, would play in five-on-five pickup games at the Blazers training facility this week.

But general manager Rich Cho squashed that idea.

“We’re going to ease him into it … maybe do some two-on-two or three-on-three, instead of up-and down five-on-five,” Cho told The Portland Tribune on Sunday. “I’m hoping he’ll be cleared to do that in the next couple of weeks. … We’re being cautious. The longer you wait for the bone to heal, the better.”

Cho also said that Oden is in Vancouver, British Columbia, with strength/conditioning coach Bobby Medina working with a physical training specialist on “a lot of core stuff.”

Cho and the Blazers are looking long-term, so there’s a chance he won’t return to the lineup by opening night.

[JoeWolf1]

I read this earlier on insider, and it’s kind relevant to this thread. Its an injury update on Oden. You’re right Swelton, Oden when healthy last year was a force and a top 3 shotblocker, averaged close to 10 rebs and shot 60% from the feild in 24 mpg. That was a 1a, 1b situation at the time, much like Jordan and Olajuwon. Now Oden just has to stay healthy

There was some talk that Greg Oden, recovering from knee surgery, would play in five-on-five pickup games at the Blazers training facility this week.

But general manager Rich Cho squashed that idea.

“We’re going to ease him into it … maybe do some two-on-two or three-on-three, instead of up-and down five-on-five,” Cho told The Portland Tribune on Sunday. “I’m hoping he’ll be cleared to do that in the next couple of weeks. … We’re being cautious. The longer you wait for the bone to heal, the better.”

Cho also said that Oden is in Vancouver, British Columbia, with strength/conditioning coach Bobby Medina working with a physical training specialist on “a lot of core stuff.”

Cho and the Blazers are looking long-term, so there’s a chance he won’t return to the lineup by opening night.

[midwestbbscoutParticipant]

I keep saying again and again…..I’m pretty sure every GM put in the Blazers spot would have taken Oden….to say that was a bad pick is retarded…..

[midwestbbscoutParticipant]

I keep saying again and again…..I’m pretty sure every GM put in the Blazers spot would have taken Oden….to say that was a bad pick is retarded…..

[lakanoParticipant]

What I meant was letting height be your determining factor if you are 50-50 on a player like how it was for Portland

In the 2004 draft the debate wasnt whether to draft a big or not but rather which one to take Howard or Okafor

In some cases its the obvious choice to take a Center if he is the best player available but in those few cases where it isnt as obvious I would like to stop hearing the motto “Go big or go home”

[lakanoParticipant]

What I meant was letting height be your determining factor if you are 50-50 on a player like how it was for Portland

In the 2004 draft the debate wasnt whether to draft a big or not but rather which one to take Howard or Okafor

In some cases its the obvious choice to take a Center if he is the best player available but in those few cases where it isnt as obvious I would like to stop hearing the motto “Go big or go home”

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

You know….I cannot rip Portland for taking Oden over Durant anymore.

What I said was said. Portland fans will argue ” Roy and Durant both need the ball, it wouldn’t have worked!!!!”

We see what’s going on with Durant now and all I can do is look and SMH

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

You know….I cannot rip Portland for taking Oden over Durant anymore.

What I said was said. Portland fans will argue ” Roy and Durant both need the ball, it wouldn’t have worked!!!!”

We see what’s going on with Durant now and all I can do is look and SMH

[SteroidParticipant]

In a perfect world, Greg Oden would in the top 3 for best center right now and possibly debatable as the best center because Greg Oden has more potential on offense than Dwight in my opinion. It is hard to predict injuries, and it’s not like Greg Oden is a bust. When he plays, he plays good, and the more NBA games he gets under his belt, the better he will get. With all that being said, we don’t live in a perfect world, and I’m sure the Blazers would have picked Durant if they could go back in time.

[SteroidParticipant]

In a perfect world, Greg Oden would in the top 3 for best center right now and possibly debatable as the best center because Greg Oden has more potential on offense than Dwight in my opinion. It is hard to predict injuries, and it’s not like Greg Oden is a bust. When he plays, he plays good, and the more NBA games he gets under his belt, the better he will get. With all that being said, we don’t live in a perfect world, and I’m sure the Blazers would have picked Durant if they could go back in time.

[midwestbbscoutParticipant]

yeah….but to sit and compare that pick to Sam Bowie is LUDA!!!!!!!! not saying you yourself did that but I’ve seen it on multiple occasions….

[midwestbbscoutParticipant]

yeah….but to sit and compare that pick to Sam Bowie is LUDA!!!!!!!! not saying you yourself did that but I’ve seen it on multiple occasions….

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