[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Think about it. Were all talking about a potential Laker-Heat Finals.

What if Kobe wins? He would arguably have won 2 titles against the new generation’s superstars ( Wade, James, Howard). Also, He would have defeated a “super-team” in Miami and most likely as a underdog. This could be the one championship that Kobe could hold over Jordan’s potential head. Kobe’s 6th title could be his biggest.

What do you think?

[the microwaveParticipant]

http://nba.fanhouse.com/2010/07/08/vegas-heat-the-favorite-for-nba-title/

should be interesting.. I dont know if ill ever put kobe in same sentence as Jordan, but hes already entrenched in my eyes as 2nd best ever… Jordan played in a different era, where hand checking was allowed, and the game was much more physical in his day, but this is no knock on kobe… He is the best the nba has to offer.

[fastdanParticipant]

You act like the Lakers have a terrible team surrounding Kobe. They are the two time reigning champs, there’s no way they can be the underdog.

[the microwaveParticipant]

im just postiing Vegas oddds…So click the link and read what the odd makers say…. Things can change but this is what it shows for now..

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

Lakers have 2 be considered the underdog……..miami has 3 superstars and a bunch of other players willing to join for cheap. If kobe does meet miami in the finals, it will be nicee to see him win. How does 2 straight years defeated 2 different big 3’s

[madcabParticipant]

Why is it that everyone is stuck on these two guys as the best ever? I mean i think they are both GREAT, and top 5-10 of all time. But in reality everyone forgets about anyone before Jordan.

If all you know is stats, and you never really got to see tape of a player, and see how that player took over a game, or a playoff series, then how can you really compare?

Oscar Robertson did something No One will ever do again. Mainly because of how the game is played, and because now there is a 3 point line.

NBA Regular Season
(* led league; ** tied for league lead)
Year Team G Min. FGM FGA Pct. FTM FTA Pct. Reb. Ast. PF D Pts. RPG APG PPG
60-61 Cincinnati 71 3012 756 1600 .473 653 794 .822 716 *690 219 3 2165 10.1 *9.7 30.5
61-62 Cincinnati 79 3503 866 1810 .478 700 872 .803 985 *899 258 1 2432 12.5 *11.4 30.8
62-63 Cincinnati 80 3521 825 1593 .518 614 758 .810 835 758 293 1 2264 10.4 9.5 28.3
63-64 Cincinnati 79 3559 840 1740 .483 *800 938 *.853 783 *868 280 3 2480 9.9 *11.0 31.4
64-65 Cincinnati 75 3421 807 1681 .480 *665 793 .839 674 *861 205 2 2279 9.0 *11.5 30.4
65-66 Cincinnati 76 3493 818 1723 .475 742 881 .842 586 *847 227 1 2378 7.7 *11.1 31.3
66-67 Cincinnati 79 3468 838 1699 .493 736 843 .873 486 845 226 2 2412 6.2 *10.7 30.5
67-68 Cincinnati 65 2765 660 1321 .500 *576 660 *.873 391 633 199 2 1896 6.0 *9.7 *29.2
68-69 Cincinnati 79 3461 656 1351 .486 *643 767 .838 502 *772 231 2 1955 6.4 *9.8 24.7
69-70 Cincinnati 69 2865 647 1267 .511 454 561 .809 422 558 175 1 1748 6.1 8.1 25.3
70-71 Milwaukee 81 3194 592 1193 .496 385 453 .850 462 668 203 0 1569 5.7 8.2 19.4
71-72 Milwaukee 64 2390 419 887 .472 276 330 .836 323 491 116 0 1114 5.0 7.7 17.4
72-73 Milwaukee 73 2737 446 983 .454 238 281 .847 360 551 167 0 1130 4.9 7.5 15.5

POINT IS THIS DUDE DID all this with out a 3 point line, and in a time before SPORTS CENTER was on TV.

[Mr.Knick 32Participant]

Oscar Robertson was a great in my eyes. I always feel he’s the 2nd greatest guard ever. I wish I got the chance to see him play live. He had alot of bad luck in his career. He lost Maurice Stokes and Jerry Lucas ( I believe).

He is not a top 5 all time great because he never won a title as the MAN. He needed Kareem to win a title. Also, not to mention- He did those triple double seasons type numbers in a weak guard league.

[dahoodrecruiterParticipant]

i would love to see that ……lakers vs heat ….that would be ah very competitive series especially if heat can add sum more pieces to their roster…..

would love to see kobe win that matchup

[OllstarParticipant]

MJ, Magic, Kobe, Bird, LBJ.
The game was different back in the day and the competition wasn’t consistent on a nightly basis. O-Rob is def top 10 same as Bill Russel, Duncan, Hakeem, Karl Malone.

1st team
PG- Magic
SG- MJ
SF- Bird
PF- Duncan
C- Hakeem
2nd team
PG- O-Rob
SG- Kobe
SF- LBJ
PF- Malone
C- Russel

Malone never won a ring even with a great supportin cast cause he played in the MJ, Pippen era. I feel sorry for some of the great ringless young players in the league now cause they’ll never win a ring in the LBJ, Wade era. Guys like Carmelo, Paul, Amare. Rings usually define greatness but there is only one winner at the end of every season.

On a side not I’m sure all of us made the dream team with Miami on 2K or Live and even without a supporting cast the team wins 60 games. Ya its a video simulation but still the same Laker team still wins games. So there is some authenticy to game simulation. In 3 seasons my Miami team won the title twice against the Lakers and lost 1 game per series in the 2 winning seasons.. The differential was a staggering +16 as my team lead the league in scoring and held our opp. to lowest ppg. in the playoffs. 99ppg – 83ppg. This is with Joel Anthony at the C and Mario Chalmers at the PG. 6-Haslem 7-Head the rest were minimum guys.

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