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- Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:16am #21914
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantCarmelo Anthony for Young, Turner, Nocioni and 2 1st round picks.
Why?
Denver- The Nuggets get Turner who could be Grant Hill, Thad Young who could be a 3/4 and 2 1st round picks. Nocioni was filler
Philadelphia- This is a long write: Philadelphia would LOVE Carmelo Anthony. He’s a player the Sixers could built Melo with Holiday, Iguodala, Spieghts and Brand as the starters around him. They also have Lou Williams who could be dealt for a player to built around Melo. I think besides New York, Philadelphia fans would truly LOVE Melo.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:30am #407134
NYK2010ParticipantNot a bad idea.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:34am #407136
wav3y924Participantthats a dumb trade why would you put melo and iggy on the same team.. not gon werk plus melo neva said he wants to go to philly.. nd iggy nd melo together is like A.i. nd Melo.. not gonna werk..
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:34am #407137
MagikKnickParticipantWhen I opened this, I expected it to be a ridiculous idea, but actually, its not that bad..
But I personally don’t see Denver doing that, I think they’ll want a little more, probably try to push for Holiday and/or Speights, if anything…but I think they can get better offers from around the league
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:35am #407138
Mr.Knick 32Participantthats a dumb trade why would you put melo and iggy on the same team
Because Iguodala could be the 2 and Melo the 3?
If you think Iggy and Melo are like A.I. and Melo…youre crazy
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:36am #407140
dazeoneParticipantReal Rap…. They need to to develop the young players like Holiday, Turner, Speights, Williams, and Young. If you sell the farm to get Carmello you will not be able to put any pieces around him so its useless to try to get him. It will be like having Barkley by himself, AI by himself, ect….develop the young players and lose for one more year and then make a trade to get someone.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:37am #407141
Mr.Knick 32ParticipantIf you sell the farm to get Carmello
bUT THERE NOT SELLING THE FARM…
0- Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 10:16am #407150
dazeoneParticipantThey would be ……there were reports one with : Turner or Thad and Iggy and a draft pick
along with other variations….he is one player…that doesn’t have an effect on the game like a Lebron, Kobe, or even AI in his prime.. He is top 10 but not top 5 and he has not won anything either…..Let him go to the Nets and get crushed by Miami, Boston, or Orlando. If he goes to the Knicks there is not a team in place to help him either. At any cost bad move for the Sixers
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- Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:48am #407144
NYK2010ParticipantDenver would be lucky to get a deal like this.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:54am #407146
Moon RiverParticipantPhilly is not on Melo’s wish list according to what has been reported. You would have to sell Melo Philly before you could sell this to Denver. Anthony holds all of the cards right now and Denver should take what they can get.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 10:21am #407152
kurtu17ParticipantI think this is the best trade for denver..but Carmello wouldnt like it cuz he would be even in a worse place then he was with in denver…the right place for him to go would be in New Jersey or Chicago there he would be either on a championship team with chicago or atleast on the way with New Jersey…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 11:07am #407166
Mr. 19134ParticipantThe Sixers got the beast offer on the table and its Turner, Young, and Kapono (his contract is expiring) and future draft considerations.
The Sixers should do this and the Nuggets want to do this. Melo is still debating. He knows Philly is a great sports town but he is in an empire state of mind right now.
This trade would put one of the best scoring wings in the league alongside one of the most versatile and best defending wings in the league. And Doug Collins has had that type of personnel before and knows how to use it.
And Melo lead the Nuggets to the playoffs his rookie year so how does he not have that type of impact on a franchise? Have the Nuggets not been one of the best teams in the league since they got Melo?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 11:26am #407169
kurtu17Participanti think carmello would have a better chance in winnin in denver then in philly….
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 11:26am #407170
kurtu17Participanti think carmello would have a better chance in winnin in denver then in philly….
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 11:44am #407174
Mr. 19134ParticipantI think its about even but Melo don’t want to play for them anymore, the Nuggets organization is in disarray. And Philly fits his lifestyle more and it is 45 minutes from New York and and Hour from Baltimore. So it is snug perfectly in between where he was born and where he was raised.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 12:44pm #407193
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantHe’d be the biggest sports star in town…They’d have a team built similar to Denver but much younger at every position…The Sixers were and will be better than the Nets and Knicks this year and next with out him…
New Jersey would not have a Franchise PG after they trade Harris and Favors…They’ll have Brooke Lopez and Terrence Williams ( Basically a Good young Big and Iggy Junior with way less IQ and a bad temper) Veteran Big Man( Murphy) and no backup Bigs…Petro really??? Farmer and Augustine are not better Jrue Holiday…Holiday can be a top 10 to 15 PG this year,,..he’s got the potential to be the Next Ron Harper on a Championship team Sixers if we got Carmelo…Again we have Iggy who’s way better than T Will and Brand and Murphy could be a wash…I’d take a healthy Brand over a guy like Murphy who’s stats could be a product of playing for a bad team(Warriors/Pacers)…Lopez is guy you want but would getting Melo and a core built for winning a title be a good sell for any Defensive Center looking to win a ring…I’ll take Williams and Speights over the Nets bench too…
I repeat this deal Is a great move for all…The 1st win/win deal in a long time…Now if Melo just opens up his eyes and realize that Philly is a better Team to try to win with …It’s right there…Amare and New York’s Team??? Or a team with enough talent at every position to win if you get traded too…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 1:02pm #407197
kurtu17Participantnoooo wayyyy is philly a better team if either trade were to happen…melo who is an elite wing with a top 5 center…nets would have a way better front court…a owner that would be willing to spend…and a better deffensive coach…with cap roooommmm so their future would be alot brighter..i think they would have a better foundation goin this route then the other…it would be easier to get a point guard then to get a big that can score inside which philly would be lacking..and brand wow come on that guy is done…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 1:06pm #407198
Mr.Knick 32Participantnoooo wayyyy is philly a better team if either trade were to happen…melo who is an elite wing with a top 5 center…nets would have a way better front court…a owner that would be willing to spend…and a better deffensive coach…with cap roooommmm so their future would be alot brighter..i think they would have a better foundation goin this route then the other…it would be easier to get a point guard then to get a big that can score inside which philly would be lacking..and brand wow come on that guy is done…
A) Yes it is a better place then NJ because the Sixers are a better team
B) The Sixers spend money when they have too and they have Lou Williams who could be a nice piece in a trade
C) The Nets would not have a better foundation. Holiday, Spieghts, Hawes, Iguodala? That’s a good 4
D) Elton Brand is not done, he got hurt then he gained some wieght. A couple reports have Brand at 250, 245 and he looks to have got his quickness back. If he’s a force this season, don’t be shocked.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 2:37pm #407232
apb540ParticipantAll your points are right on and thanks for supporting Philly on this one haha. Get this done Rod Thorn!
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 2:49pm #407236
kurtu17Participanttheres a reason why nobody wants Elton Brand cuz he is washed up..and his contract is horrible thats its hurtings his teams chances on gettin any help up front…hawes is ok but its nowhere near Lopez…and yes Philles last years team was better then the Nets…but the Nets have a way better chance to building a Team around Carmello…with with an elite big…and a team that will be able to get assets for their players…a bench is somethin that the owner can easily get..the hardest part is to get the allstarts the supporting cast isnt that hard when u have money..sorry Philly has one good player in Holiday everyone else is overpaid..
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 3:09pm #407244
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantIguadola…Holiday…Speights…Hawes…A Healthy Brand…Thad Young…Evan Turner…Lou Williams…Nocioni…All I’m Saying Lets break it down pre and Post trade…What Team is better???
Nets VS. Sixers Pre Melo Trade…
PG-Harris,Farmer and Augustine Vs. Jrue Holiday and Lou Williams…
SG-Morrow and Insert Rookie Sg here Vs. Evan Turner and Jodie Meeks…
Sf-T.Williams and T.Outlaw Vs. Iguadola,Thad Young and Nocioni…
PF-T.Murphy and Favors Vs.Brand and Speights…
C-Lopez and Petro Vs. Hawes and Battie…
To me it’s close but the Sixers have the Egde at Sg/Sf and Pg if Jrue has a big year as a true point guard…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 3:14pm #407246
apb540ParticipantIggy and ET > Morrow and T-Will
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 3:35pm #407259
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantMurphy is a one year rental unless he resign’s for Cheap…Favors can boom or bust…Brand is solid down low and with his health back in order he can get 20 and 10 or close to it …He’s better than Boozer when healthy…So he’s better than Murphy too…If EB is back to his old 20/10 form or close to it with a modest 17 and 10(which he can do without Dalembert or any other great rebounder on the Team) That is all depending on him staying healthy all year and regaining the strenght he had down low…
Speights can be better than Favors if he ever gets out of his own way…He’s a better offensive player right now and if he ever rebounded and played a little D he’d be LaMrcus Aldridge type PF…Hawes and Lopez is the only Nets win and I dont think its out the realm of possibilty’s that Hawes puts it together and has a Brad Miller type Carrer…He’s very skilled offensive and has great range…He and Brand can almost be a Boozer/Okur like combo…A healthy Brand and motivated Hawes can be a very nice Front court with Speights playing the role of a more talented Paul Millsap…Now if Iggy only become that nightmare defender and all around threat AK 47 was…Thad gives us that great young 6th man and Turner and Holiday growing into the Guard spots as the starting back court of the future…
Holiday can be that Glove like PG and Turner can be like B.Roy,Penny or Grant Hill at the 2…I’m happy with the talent on our team…what we need is an All Star Scorer ,but if we have them on the Roster already heah…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 4:19pm #407277
joecheck88Participanti dont know how you can say melo, lopez, murphy, twill, and morrow is better than melo, iguodala, holiday, speights, brand, hawes, and lou williams.
philly would be a good spot for melo, but i dont know if melo wants to go there. do you know how good andre iguodala would be being a second option? that would be a good team in philly.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 4:22pm #407279
kurtu17ParticipantLook i understand what ur saying scare crow…yeah Philly team is better then Nets…all im saying is Nets have a brighter future..if the trade goes down i would think Melo would work alot better with Lopez then in Brand… IF mello went to Philly they would have to trade Turner who can possibly their first or second best player. the ball would be in mostly Holiday, Mellow and what would it do to iggy…i just dont see it working without hindering his skills atleast a tad bit. and Young would be most likely gone so thats some of ur bench scoring…but even thought ur team would have edge over the nets if they had mellow…but Murphy can have a career year with New jersey him and lopez and mellow could do a good job on the boards…and you know its a Possibilty that Cp3 go to New Jersery…And on the bench will be williams and Morrow can score but they would have nobody else…i dunno maybe im crazy to think this i just dont see the Philly thing work out any better then denvers…
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 7:12pm #407331
dylanhouParticipantIve been following all the Melo trade rumors for the last couple of days and reading any scrap i could get on it and this new one about philly is the best situation by 100 miles for both sides. so this is my in depth analysis of the whole scenario. NY is basically out of the question because they have no team at all theres no opportunity for success there it would be melo amare galo (pretty good but same position as melo) and 5 or 6 holes in a rotation. Jrue holiday is way way better than either a nj or ny point guard. evan turner at the 2 is a huge bust, he is really overrated so i would be glad to see him go that only adds to the strength of the potential philly team. morrow looks to be nice off the bench for nj as a gunner but jody meeks has that same kind of potential. Igoudalla is underrated and someone in a comment above hit it right on the head he is a defender and so versatile. and hes a big 2 so just athletically he would have an advantage. the one thing i would hate to see happen in this trade is for thaddeus young to go. he plays a huge role on this team and style wise is perfect for them as 4 or a 3 giving them basically or big or a small lineup whichever way they want to go with melo or ig at a 2 and thad at the 3 or ig and melo as the 2,3 and thad at the 4. Young’s can be a mismatch nightmare if the melo deal goes down. honestly i would rather see igoudala go than young because his slack could be picked up easier by the rest of the team. But this trade either way would make a powerful sixers squad ( and for any rap fans melo has the cassidy connect in philly idk if anybody has mentioned that as leverage ). Overall though nj and philly’s interiors are fairly even they are both kind of a young, unknown, not flashy or superstar type but solid go to work players. brooke has a slight edge but nothing that significant and he’s really nj’s only edge over philly 1 through 15. and everyone has been overrrating him as top 5…. what about joakim noah, al horford, dwight howard, tim duncan (depending what you consider him), and gasol and stoudamire as a tweener centers. maybe kendrick perkins. Also I would love to argue with anybody talking about melo as a top ?10? player and unproven and not a winner or a takeover talent. hes great. But overally philly is the top option for melo considering all the factors i dont think that there’s any way he could do better than this except the chris paul lottery ticket
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 8:01pm #407343
BallerzD30ParticipantYeah this is a prettyt good trade… execpt istead of turner trade iguadala. Iggy and melo cant be on the same team, but turner and melo can… BUT you gotta keep Holiday, important peice of their furture
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 8:04pm #407345
Mr. 19134ParticipantWhy are people saying that Melo would hinder Iggy? Did you see Iggy play for Team USA? That’s what type of player he is. The Ultimate glue guy. Mr. good at everything but not great at anything except defense and dunking.
And The Sixers got alot of scoring bigs who can shoot and spread the floor, plus Hawes is one of the best passing big men in the league and the Brad Miller comparison was dead on. So bigs who can produce is not a problem right now, unless you want a big to produce on an all star level which you don’t neccesarily need with Iggy and Melo.
And ask any great scorer if they would rather have their Franchise big in place or their Franchise PG in place and 9 out of 10 they will probably say the PG.
You see a PG like Jrue makes the game easier for guys like Melo. They penetrate, initiate the offense, and basically just find ways for people like Melo to get an easy basket thats what a PG does and that’s how Steve Nash won 2 mvps.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 09/28/2010 - 9:45pm #407356
The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipantI’d Love to trade for Melo…I thinka combo of Iggy-Kapono and picks would be great for us…Turner and Thad + Kapono and picks would be great for both(Denver would get 2 young players to build with plus picks and cash for next years FA)…But maybe a Iggy and Thad deal works for them too…that way Melo and Brand are the only big contracts and We keep Turner…Jrue/ET/Melo?Brand/Hawes/M16?Lou Will/Noci/Meeks/Battie = a better team than NJ and NY after any Melo deal…1 big man and Scorer off the bench away from being really dangerous…Why aren’t more people on board with This…I’d love Denver squads Too If this deal went through…
Denver’s Core-
PG-Billups-Lawson
Sg-Turner-JR Smith-Affalo
Sf-Thad Young-Balkman-Kapono
Pf-Ka.Martin-Harrington
C-Nene-Birdman
Denver would have a ton of cash coming off the books In K Mart and Kapono’s contracts…JR should be resigned leaving 10 to 15 million in cap space…If Billups is let go that’s another 8 to 10 million I believe…
Thats a great selling point to make for the Nuggets…
0 - Posted on: Wed, 09/29/2010 - 3:15am #407369
mj23mj23besteverParticipantmelo and iggy could wiht out a doubt play together and that line up would be lethal wiht jrue iggy n melo leading the way my biggest thing why i love this for philly is not having to trade iggy and trading turner i think is gonna be a huge and i mean huge bust do i agree getting to keep young some how would be great hes a versatile 3 4
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