[SOI47Participant]

 I’m growing more and more convinced that the 76ers front office isn’t as high on parker and wiggins ad they want you to think.  I’m starting to believe the guy they really covet it the big man Embiid.  Makes sense in that big men are rare.

 

Anyone believe in this?  

[strobox88Participant]

 Can you elaborate as to why you think so?

[strobox88Participant]

 Can you elaborate as to why you think so?

[MopgrassParticipant]

Rotoworld keeps putting up links about how the Sixers want to trade for the #1 pick. Most people believe Embiid is going to go #1. It’s a pretty logical thought. If they want Wiggins, shouldn’t they be trying to get the #2 pick from the Bucks? Point being, this guy’s guesswork sounds reasonable.

I personally think the Bucks would want some immediate scoring and will take Parker. Then Wiggins goes to the Sixers anyway. Perhaps the Sixers’s real motivation is to try to make people think they strongly value Wiggins so that he has a lot of trade value when they draft him. At which point, they could keep or trade him (of course , why would they trade him?).

[MopgrassParticipant]

Rotoworld keeps putting up links about how the Sixers want to trade for the #1 pick. Most people believe Embiid is going to go #1. It’s a pretty logical thought. If they want Wiggins, shouldn’t they be trying to get the #2 pick from the Bucks? Point being, this guy’s guesswork sounds reasonable.

I personally think the Bucks would want some immediate scoring and will take Parker. Then Wiggins goes to the Sixers anyway. Perhaps the Sixers’s real motivation is to try to make people think they strongly value Wiggins so that he has a lot of trade value when they draft him. At which point, they could keep or trade him (of course , why would they trade him?).

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Although I believe Wiggins is the guy they had on top of their Big Board at the start of the year amd maybe even during the college season was in full swing, BUT I think the 76ers began looking at Parker and Embiid as well…

My reasons for them taking Parker

1. He’s the most polished offensive player in the entire draft next to maybe McDermott

2. He’ll be an immediate starter and asked to score right out the gate, which I think he does at a Rookie of the Year pace

3. The 76ers have lacked a True Star since Allen Iverson was traded all those years back, why not draft one with a Great Attitude and Work Ethic

4. Jabarri has the fire and focus to survive in a hard core sports town like Philadelphia, which can chew up young players and spit them out if they dont produce at the level we expect

Bottom line is we’ve become Smoke screen city, We haven’t talked up Parker and that leads me to believe they want him to slide past Cleveland and Milwaukee…

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Although I believe Wiggins is the guy they had on top of their Big Board at the start of the year amd maybe even during the college season was in full swing, BUT I think the 76ers began looking at Parker and Embiid as well…

My reasons for them taking Parker

1. He’s the most polished offensive player in the entire draft next to maybe McDermott

2. He’ll be an immediate starter and asked to score right out the gate, which I think he does at a Rookie of the Year pace

3. The 76ers have lacked a True Star since Allen Iverson was traded all those years back, why not draft one with a Great Attitude and Work Ethic

4. Jabarri has the fire and focus to survive in a hard core sports town like Philadelphia, which can chew up young players and spit them out if they dont produce at the level we expect

Bottom line is we’ve become Smoke screen city, We haven’t talked up Parker and that leads me to believe they want him to slide past Cleveland and Milwaukee…

 

[LindseyParticipant]

I agree with most of your points, except the fire and focus. I remember reading articles where he admitted to getting depressed when he got injured and wiggins overtook him in the rankings in HS. Thats not what I want out of my star…

[LindseyParticipant]

I agree with most of your points, except the fire and focus. I remember reading articles where he admitted to getting depressed when he got injured and wiggins overtook him in the rankings in HS. Thats not what I want out of my star…

[ibe12Participant]

It wouldn’t shock me. Normally the more you hear that a team wants someone the more likely it’s probably a lie. Hinkie hasn’t been with the Sixers long so its hard to figure out what exactly he likes but I think he does like Wiggins a lot. He fits his whole analytics way of thinking, he has upside and he comes across as a humble guy whose easy to coach so that would seem to fit Brett Brown a guy who came from the Spurs. Then again he was in Houston when they got Howard. He also made a huge deal to get Noel a guy he knew wasn’t going to play in year and the rumor last year was he tried to get Asik from Houston. Either way I think the Bucks will pick Parker so the Sixers will probably end up with Embiid or Wiggins, two guys that I think he likes.

[ibe12Participant]

It wouldn’t shock me. Normally the more you hear that a team wants someone the more likely it’s probably a lie. Hinkie hasn’t been with the Sixers long so its hard to figure out what exactly he likes but I think he does like Wiggins a lot. He fits his whole analytics way of thinking, he has upside and he comes across as a humble guy whose easy to coach so that would seem to fit Brett Brown a guy who came from the Spurs. Then again he was in Houston when they got Howard. He also made a huge deal to get Noel a guy he knew wasn’t going to play in year and the rumor last year was he tried to get Asik from Houston. Either way I think the Bucks will pick Parker so the Sixers will probably end up with Embiid or Wiggins, two guys that I think he likes.

[kdtriv01Participant]

 I understand that lies surround the draft, I’m not sure if I buy into Parker being the guy. Parker may be the most NBA ready, but his ceiling appears to be the lowest of the "top" 3.  With their roster I think the wisest choice would be Wiggins.  He already has an NBA skill, defense, and his potential is as high as Embiid (imo).  It appears the 6ers are a couple of years away with all the youth.  That being the case, their best bet would be Wiggins.  They already have Noel, whom I suspect will be an outstanding defensive player, and a servicable offense weapon in year one.  They have MCW.  Their best bet would be to draft Wiggins and then find a shooter with their second pick.  That’s just my view, but I’m not getting paid to make those decisions.

[kdtriv01Participant]

 I understand that lies surround the draft, I’m not sure if I buy into Parker being the guy. Parker may be the most NBA ready, but his ceiling appears to be the lowest of the "top" 3.  With their roster I think the wisest choice would be Wiggins.  He already has an NBA skill, defense, and his potential is as high as Embiid (imo).  It appears the 6ers are a couple of years away with all the youth.  That being the case, their best bet would be Wiggins.  They already have Noel, whom I suspect will be an outstanding defensive player, and a servicable offense weapon in year one.  They have MCW.  Their best bet would be to draft Wiggins and then find a shooter with their second pick.  That’s just my view, but I’m not getting paid to make those decisions.

[mvolker7Participant]

 Wiggins is there guy.  He is the one they brought in for a workout and the one that was shown the city with Noel in a limo.  Embiid and Parker are not even coming in for a workout.  I honestly think they have Exum above Parker on there big board.  Its Wiggins or bust in Hinkie’s eyes.

[mvolker7Participant]

 Wiggins is there guy.  He is the one they brought in for a workout and the one that was shown the city with Noel in a limo.  Embiid and Parker are not even coming in for a workout.  I honestly think they have Exum above Parker on there big board.  Its Wiggins or bust in Hinkie’s eyes.

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

They could be interested In parker also and just cause the other top prospects have not worked out for the Sixers does not mean that they will not in the days leading up to the draft. I guess andrew wiggins fits their player type more as he is long and athletic like Noel and mcw nd Thad young, but jabari will bring the scoring punch they need.

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

They could be interested In parker also and just cause the other top prospects have not worked out for the Sixers does not mean that they will not in the days leading up to the draft. I guess andrew wiggins fits their player type more as he is long and athletic like Noel and mcw nd Thad young, but jabari will bring the scoring punch they need.

[Robb_CParticipant]

Some of you guys really crack me up with your theories on Parker.. He already hit his ceiling? Last time I checked he was a freshmen like Embiid and Wiggins.

The fact of the matter is he’s already so much more polished offensively than Wiggins right now that it would be questionable to take Wiggins over Parker.. I understand Wiggins has room to be an absolute headache on the defensive end but thats still a work in progress, Parker not only will have no problem scoring in the league he has a very durable thick body that should have no problem staying healthy.. Jabari will have no problem being able to put on 15-20 pounds on that frame… Wiggins on the other hand might have problems putting on size and might have issues with the strength of other SF.. 

Lots of ifs with Wiggins if you think about it.. and thats not the case with Jabari at all you know exactly what you will be getting with him and he does have a chance to be even better than advertised.

Jabari Parker should be the first pick in draft.. 

 

[Robb_CParticipant]

Some of you guys really crack me up with your theories on Parker.. He already hit his ceiling? Last time I checked he was a freshmen like Embiid and Wiggins.

The fact of the matter is he’s already so much more polished offensively than Wiggins right now that it would be questionable to take Wiggins over Parker.. I understand Wiggins has room to be an absolute headache on the defensive end but thats still a work in progress, Parker not only will have no problem scoring in the league he has a very durable thick body that should have no problem staying healthy.. Jabari will have no problem being able to put on 15-20 pounds on that frame… Wiggins on the other hand might have problems putting on size and might have issues with the strength of other SF.. 

Lots of ifs with Wiggins if you think about it.. and thats not the case with Jabari at all you know exactly what you will be getting with him and he does have a chance to be even better than advertised.

Jabari Parker should be the first pick in draft.. 

 

[Neggedpastor]

yes ppl are saying he should lose weight I think he should put on more muscle cut some body fat (im a gym rat )

then they say he doesn’t have the upside of the other two. the other two are more of works in progress parker is ready now and lets say all 3 are expected to be great so when they say parker doesn’t have a high upside I get stuck? if all three are going to be great why not take the ones that’s sure to be great.

for sake of an argument
kareem
Jordan
and LeBron are all drafted at the same time and we never seen them play a nba game.

would you say oh im not going to take Jordan because hes not a big or hes not as young entering the league so he doesn’t have as much upside as the other two?

[Neggedpastor]

yes ppl are saying he should lose weight I think he should put on more muscle cut some body fat (im a gym rat )

then they say he doesn’t have the upside of the other two. the other two are more of works in progress parker is ready now and lets say all 3 are expected to be great so when they say parker doesn’t have a high upside I get stuck? if all three are going to be great why not take the ones that’s sure to be great.

for sake of an argument
kareem
Jordan
and LeBron are all drafted at the same time and we never seen them play a nba game.

would you say oh im not going to take Jordan because hes not a big or hes not as young entering the league so he doesn’t have as much upside as the other two?

[SixerBloodParticipant]

 Who wouldn’t want a franchise big man possibly? And a possible duo of Embiid and Noel to cause hell all across the league? It’s hit or miss to because do you take a wing player or go for another injured big man with All Star potential? For me, as a ride or die Sixers fan I take whoever is left of the "top" 3 right about now especially if he is still available and not shoot myself in the foot by going for an unknown like Exum or etc… over the years I’ve watched us get one b*ll$h!t big after another Shawn Bradley, Manute Bol, Coleman, Webber, Mutumbo, Dalmbert, Brand, shall I keep going??? It ridiculous! We haven’t had a franchise big since MOSES!!! So take who is left especially if Embiid is available and if it doesn’t work we can trade either one of them. 

[SixerBloodParticipant]

 Who wouldn’t want a franchise big man possibly? And a possible duo of Embiid and Noel to cause hell all across the league? It’s hit or miss to because do you take a wing player or go for another injured big man with All Star potential? For me, as a ride or die Sixers fan I take whoever is left of the "top" 3 right about now especially if he is still available and not shoot myself in the foot by going for an unknown like Exum or etc… over the years I’ve watched us get one b*ll$h!t big after another Shawn Bradley, Manute Bol, Coleman, Webber, Mutumbo, Dalmbert, Brand, shall I keep going??? It ridiculous! We haven’t had a franchise big since MOSES!!! So take who is left especially if Embiid is available and if it doesn’t work we can trade either one of them. 

[vulture711Participant]

 why would anyone not be high on Parker and Wiggins ?  I’m high on all 3 of them and any would look great in a Philly Uniform

[vulture711Participant]

 why would anyone not be high on Parker and Wiggins ?  I’m high on all 3 of them and any would look great in a Philly Uniform

[bmac697Participant]

 If Parker and wiggins r off the board and embiid slide due to back problems, draft randle. He would pair up we’ll with noël and IMO he’s just as nba ready as Parker, at least has an offensive game. Then look for shooter at ten. I feel having both noël and embiid may not work long term as both still to develop low post game where as randle can help right away. 

[bmac697Participant]

 If Parker and wiggins r off the board and embiid slide due to back problems, draft randle. He would pair up we’ll with noël and IMO he’s just as nba ready as Parker, at least has an offensive game. Then look for shooter at ten. I feel having both noël and embiid may not work long term as both still to develop low post game where as randle can help right away. 

[r377Participant]

The Sixers love collecting bigs with injury history:

Brand, Bynum, Noel so why not keep collecting…..

[r377Participant]

The Sixers love collecting bigs with injury history:

Brand, Bynum, Noel so why not keep collecting…..

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

I hate the argument that Parker has a lower ceiling and yada yada yada…

He is a great scorer/rebounder already, just as young as Wiggins and Embiid and has ever chance to get better in the future by extending his range, toning up and becoming quicker off the bounce

Wiggins elite athleticism is viewed as Infinite Potential to some fans/scouts/gms, but does it mean every other prospect automatically loses any and all potential…

Seems like some people only care about Max Verts and "2 way Potential", but what about Skill, Versatility, High IQ, Leadership Qualities, and a natural hunger to get better every day?

Parker, Randle and Gordon all bring those things to the table and are Great Athletes too, somehow some fans are trying to out smart everyone by going against the thought they’d be less successful than the more Athletically gifted Andrew Wiggins

Its happened with Lavine and Vonleh too, a higher Max Vert wows the crowd and dumbs everyone down…

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

I hate the argument that Parker has a lower ceiling and yada yada yada…

He is a great scorer/rebounder already, just as young as Wiggins and Embiid and has ever chance to get better in the future by extending his range, toning up and becoming quicker off the bounce

Wiggins elite athleticism is viewed as Infinite Potential to some fans/scouts/gms, but does it mean every other prospect automatically loses any and all potential…

Seems like some people only care about Max Verts and "2 way Potential", but what about Skill, Versatility, High IQ, Leadership Qualities, and a natural hunger to get better every day?

Parker, Randle and Gordon all bring those things to the table and are Great Athletes too, somehow some fans are trying to out smart everyone by going against the thought they’d be less successful than the more Athletically gifted Andrew Wiggins

Its happened with Lavine and Vonleh too, a higher Max Vert wows the crowd and dumbs everyone down…

[3 No Biases 3Participant]

Thank You… I said this exact same thing a few weeks back and got negged to death.  I think Parker and Randle have just as much potential as Embiid and Wiggins.  Why don’t people ever factor in IQ, Leadership qualities, and killer instinct in upside?  It plays a bigger part than physical attributes, Randle and Parker are no slouches in that category either. 

[3 No Biases 3Participant]

Thank You… I said this exact same thing a few weeks back and got negged to death.  I think Parker and Randle have just as much potential as Embiid and Wiggins.  Why don’t people ever factor in IQ, Leadership qualities, and killer instinct in upside?  It plays a bigger part than physical attributes, Randle and Parker are no slouches in that category either. 

[BallinmvpParticipant]

Just take one of the big 3 that falls to them. Sixers need talent, who knows if Noel is going to be good. Take the best available talent. At 10 take a shooter to spread the floor and they are well on their way. Don’t over think it, keep it simple.

[BallinmvpParticipant]

Just take one of the big 3 that falls to them. Sixers need talent, who knows if Noel is going to be good. Take the best available talent. At 10 take a shooter to spread the floor and they are well on their way. Don’t over think it, keep it simple.

[Neggedpastor]

imagine if parker puts on 10-20 more pounds of solid muscle and is in the 245-260 range
hes like a middle line backer some ppl can weigh around that and maintain most of their speed we seen LeBron do it didn’t we?
parker will never be as fast as LeBron but he can redefine “tweener” scores ,rebounds,blocks,and has a perimeter game and Im betting that with added strength he will develop a post game and a face up
imagine if he can score like Zack Randolph (back to the basket or faced up) in the post and Carmelo on the wing.
something Durant or Carmelo cant do is both of those at a highest level parker potentially can .
Parker has the upside to but everybody says he has a low ceiling I actually can bank on him having a longer career then the other 2 because he uses more pure skill then athletics.

[Neggedpastor]

imagine if parker puts on 10-20 more pounds of solid muscle and is in the 245-260 range
hes like a middle line backer some ppl can weigh around that and maintain most of their speed we seen LeBron do it didn’t we?
parker will never be as fast as LeBron but he can redefine “tweener” scores ,rebounds,blocks,and has a perimeter game and Im betting that with added strength he will develop a post game and a face up
imagine if he can score like Zack Randolph (back to the basket or faced up) in the post and Carmelo on the wing.
something Durant or Carmelo cant do is both of those at a highest level parker potentially can .
Parker has the upside to but everybody says he has a low ceiling I actually can bank on him having a longer career then the other 2 because he uses more pure skill then athletics.

[AwrightAwrightAwrightParticipant]

 I would take Exum at 3 as I feel he’s probably going to be better than any of the "big 3" in the long run.  Then I would trade MCW and #10 to Orlando for their #4.

[AwrightAwrightAwrightParticipant]

 I would take Exum at 3 as I feel he’s probably going to be better than any of the "big 3" in the long run.  Then I would trade MCW and #10 to Orlando for their #4.

[AwrightAwrightAwrightParticipant]

 Let’s see…..if I do this, then…..I will STILL be able to take one of the "big 3" at 4.  Yeah !  Why not !!

[AwrightAwrightAwrightParticipant]

 Let’s see…..if I do this, then…..I will STILL be able to take one of the "big 3" at 4.  Yeah !  Why not !!

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 than you get stuck with Exum at 3 (which would be a nightmare) and have a pissed off MCW at PG still…

If you really wanted Exum, first you have draft Parker/Wiggins/Embiid 3rd and than offer MCW and the 32nd pick to Orlando…

they get the Rookie of the Year to pair up with Victor Olapido instead of taking a gamble on Exum, we would be giving up too much if we included the 10th pick, MCW is a young proven commodity at this point even though he’s only a year into his career…

Maybe a little too greedy though, we really should just be happy with 3 and 10 at this point…

 

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

 than you get stuck with Exum at 3 (which would be a nightmare) and have a pissed off MCW at PG still…

If you really wanted Exum, first you have draft Parker/Wiggins/Embiid 3rd and than offer MCW and the 32nd pick to Orlando…

they get the Rookie of the Year to pair up with Victor Olapido instead of taking a gamble on Exum, we would be giving up too much if we included the 10th pick, MCW is a young proven commodity at this point even though he’s only a year into his career…

Maybe a little too greedy though, we really should just be happy with 3 and 10 at this point…

 

[AwrightAwrightAwrightParticipant]

Well, I guess it DOES depend on the actual draft day result of what will happen at 1 and 2, and who’s left at 3 for the Sixers. So, in a sense, you’re right, I guess. I personally do NOT want Embiid however.

[AwrightAwrightAwrightParticipant]

Well, I guess it DOES depend on the actual draft day result of what will happen at 1 and 2, and who’s left at 3 for the Sixers. So, in a sense, you’re right, I guess. I personally do NOT want Embiid however.

[Toronto16Participant]

 Nah the Sixers definitely want Wiggins.

[Toronto16Participant]

 Nah the Sixers definitely want Wiggins.

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Im not saying they dont want Wiggins, I actually think they may prefer him to anyone else because of Potential and Athleticism BUT I will not be surprised if they take Parker instead and for all the right reasons…

This is of course yet to be determined, gonna be a long week for us Draft fans…

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

Im not saying they dont want Wiggins, I actually think they may prefer him to anyone else because of Potential and Athleticism BUT I will not be surprised if they take Parker instead and for all the right reasons…

This is of course yet to be determined, gonna be a long week for us Draft fans…

[strobox88Participant]

 Philly needs to worry more about whether Wiggins is going to be available at #3 because honsetly, they should be grateful they are in a  postition to get at least one of these tier 1 prospects even if the one they really want doesn’t fall into their hands. Orlando and Utah would kill to be in their position and would be ecstatic if one of the big 3 fell to them.

[strobox88Participant]

 Philly needs to worry more about whether Wiggins is going to be available at #3 because honsetly, they should be grateful they are in a  postition to get at least one of these tier 1 prospects even if the one they really want doesn’t fall into their hands. Orlando and Utah would kill to be in their position and would be ecstatic if one of the big 3 fell to them.

[tidhoParticipant]

They have talked about trading up, but they won’t get Embiid if they do.  If Cleveland is trading its not going to be until after they’ve made the #1 selection.

[tidhoParticipant]

They have talked about trading up, but they won’t get Embiid if they do.  If Cleveland is trading its not going to be until after they’ve made the #1 selection.

[priceless4ev@Participant]

 they feel that a big man brings championships but it’s not a forsure fantasy.  It’s rare look at oden…even pat Ewing no rings go safe wit a Parker or wiggins even exum.   

As a fallback 

Embid us intriguing just not a forsure bet.

[priceless4ev@Participant]

 they feel that a big man brings championships but it’s not a forsure fantasy.  It’s rare look at oden…even pat Ewing no rings go safe wit a Parker or wiggins even exum.   

As a fallback 

Embid us intriguing just not a forsure bet.

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