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  • #57711
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    Tim49461
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     Currently the plan is obtained as many assets as possible thru the draft.  Having now acquired Joel Embiid, Noel and MCW they enter a draft that  is big man heavy.

     

    Assuming the draft is tomorrow and Philly has a top 3 pick.  Mudiay is the only player worthy of that selection that fits a need. 

    If all prospects  pan accordingly Philly is stuck drafting another big man without reaching on a player. 

    As now , not 1 year from now.  They are tanking for a log jam at a position that is already covered.

     

    They need to pray Mudiay and Kelly Oubre turn into stars.

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #943700
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    Lebronda James
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     with them not having embiid contribute this year, i thought they wouldve picked someone to contribute right away instead of Saric. If they do get mudiay what happens with mcw? Oubre is okay but lets see him get his shots against college defenders. he does have the tools though.

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  • #943835
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    Lebronda James
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     with them not having embiid contribute this year, i thought they wouldve picked someone to contribute right away instead of Saric. If they do get mudiay what happens with mcw? Oubre is okay but lets see him get his shots against college defenders. he does have the tools though.

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  • #943704
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    ahuang16
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    The draft is a year from now, not tomorrow.  And a lot could happen between now and then.  Kelly Oubre could have a really good year in college and show that he justifies a top 3 pick.  Scouts could find flaws in guys like Okafor (defensive limitations) and Alexander (just another T-Rob).  

    This is all hypothetical obviously, but what the 76ers are banking on is that with the number of assets they have, they will be able to get their guy to fill either wing position.

    And they don’t even need a superstar either, not saying that they’ll turn one down either, but because of the fact that all of their previous top picks come with high upside, they could already have their future cornerstones in hand.  Combined with the fact that either one of their second round picks, say Jerami Grant or KJ McDaniels, could potentially be their starting small forwards as a lockdwon defender, their future looks really bright.  It is just that their present situation looks extremely bleak.

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  • #943838
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    ahuang16
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    The draft is a year from now, not tomorrow.  And a lot could happen between now and then.  Kelly Oubre could have a really good year in college and show that he justifies a top 3 pick.  Scouts could find flaws in guys like Okafor (defensive limitations) and Alexander (just another T-Rob).  

    This is all hypothetical obviously, but what the 76ers are banking on is that with the number of assets they have, they will be able to get their guy to fill either wing position.

    And they don’t even need a superstar either, not saying that they’ll turn one down either, but because of the fact that all of their previous top picks come with high upside, they could already have their future cornerstones in hand.  Combined with the fact that either one of their second round picks, say Jerami Grant or KJ McDaniels, could potentially be their starting small forwards as a lockdwon defender, their future looks really bright.  It is just that their present situation looks extremely bleak.

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  • #943706
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    SpartanGlory
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     The only way this plan backfires is if these players bust. If they were forced to take Okafor in the draft, you can bet that there would be offers on the table from other teams to trade for him. The point of asset collection is that they can be flipped for a superstar when combined, or traded for better fit. I think the chances of them becoming relavent are greater than them slipping into a decade long slump, especially with the talent that they’ve already acquired.

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  • #943840
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    SpartanGlory
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     The only way this plan backfires is if these players bust. If they were forced to take Okafor in the draft, you can bet that there would be offers on the table from other teams to trade for him. The point of asset collection is that they can be flipped for a superstar when combined, or traded for better fit. I think the chances of them becoming relavent are greater than them slipping into a decade long slump, especially with the talent that they’ve already acquired.

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  • #943724
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    CameronCrazy11
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    I disagree, Stanley Johnson would a near ideal fit for this team at the 3 spot. They’d then be moving forward with a young core of MCW, Johnson, Dario Saric (in a couple seasons), Nerlens Noel, Joel Embiid, and, assuming the trade goes through, Anthony Bennett. With all of the cap room they have, they can easily bring in a 2 guard to play next to MCW either through a trade or FA signing too. I’m really excited about Philly’s future. Plus all of these young assets give you a lot of trade flexibility too.

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  • #943858
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    CameronCrazy11
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    I disagree, Stanley Johnson would a near ideal fit for this team at the 3 spot. They’d then be moving forward with a young core of MCW, Johnson, Dario Saric (in a couple seasons), Nerlens Noel, Joel Embiid, and, assuming the trade goes through, Anthony Bennett. With all of the cap room they have, they can easily bring in a 2 guard to play next to MCW either through a trade or FA signing too. I’m really excited about Philly’s future. Plus all of these young assets give you a lot of trade flexibility too.

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  • #943736
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    Mr. HookShot
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    I believe the biggest danger for any team building through the draft is that players get used to losing, loose confidence, and thus the team never develops like the front office hoped they would. For every OKC there are multiple Minnesota/Sacramento teams… 

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  • #943870
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    Mr. HookShot
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    I believe the biggest danger for any team building through the draft is that players get used to losing, loose confidence, and thus the team never develops like the front office hoped they would. For every OKC there are multiple Minnesota/Sacramento teams… 

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  • #943874
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    NeggedAlterEgosAlterEgo

    whats wrong with depth?

    the Denver nuggets made the playoffs on depth sometimes you are not going to have 3 stars. the pelicans look very good how many stars do they have they do have depth. The nets don’t have any current top 10 players but if healthy last season could have made a push.

    I don’t think all of these players will bust saric is projected to be a glue guy if he becomes a better hedo or danilo that’s great also. Bennet can come in and be a brusier and 3 point threat from the power forward and can be insurance if another player doesn’t live up to hype.

    this draft we will either get a sf or sg or a player who can play both.

    the draft after that 2016 is a wing draft they will get another wing player if no super talent emerges.

    that’s a starting 5 and maybe more

    mcw

    2015 sf/sg  Kelly oubre, Stanley Johnson

    2016 sf/sg  ben simmons,jaylen brown

    noel

    joel

    bench: bennet ,saric, mcdainels etc plus the unknown  other draft picks  they will pick up, and A lot of caproom.

    this is  a solid start in  a year two    plus they will likely be going for a playoff berth   in a few years so they can get a pick from 9-17 in the draft after they establish their core.

    plus when they get a core together they can try to steal a james harden type of unhappy  young player  and later on sign a good free agent.

    the biggest question is how will they resign  and keep all of this talent ? trust me they will flip those they cant and make sure they keep those they want. I don’t think hinkies wants to splurge but he will be pressured to spend after this long rebuild .

    its not that dangerous  if they draft a star or two ..(they may have  top 15 pg in mcw) and try to sign some key additions they will be good WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO LOSE. LOL

     

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  • #943740
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    NeggedAlterEgosAlterEgo

    whats wrong with depth?

    the Denver nuggets made the playoffs on depth sometimes you are not going to have 3 stars. the pelicans look very good how many stars do they have they do have depth. The nets don’t have any current top 10 players but if healthy last season could have made a push.

    I don’t think all of these players will bust saric is projected to be a glue guy if he becomes a better hedo or danilo that’s great also. Bennet can come in and be a brusier and 3 point threat from the power forward and can be insurance if another player doesn’t live up to hype.

    this draft we will either get a sf or sg or a player who can play both.

    the draft after that 2016 is a wing draft they will get another wing player if no super talent emerges.

    that’s a starting 5 and maybe more

    mcw

    2015 sf/sg  Kelly oubre, Stanley Johnson

    2016 sf/sg  ben simmons,jaylen brown

    noel

    joel

    bench: bennet ,saric, mcdainels etc plus the unknown  other draft picks  they will pick up, and A lot of caproom.

    this is  a solid start in  a year two    plus they will likely be going for a playoff berth   in a few years so they can get a pick from 9-17 in the draft after they establish their core.

    plus when they get a core together they can try to steal a james harden type of unhappy  young player  and later on sign a good free agent.

    the biggest question is how will they resign  and keep all of this talent ? trust me they will flip those they cant and make sure they keep those they want. I don’t think hinkies wants to splurge but he will be pressured to spend after this long rebuild .

    its not that dangerous  if they draft a star or two ..(they may have  top 15 pg in mcw) and try to sign some key additions they will be good WHAT DO THEY HAVE TO LOSE. LOL

     

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  • #943892
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    bigheavy
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    As bad as Philly was last year, you gotta remember they’re still in the east. If they come out strong like they did last year, barring injury who knows what could happen. We’ve all seen what MCW is capable of and I’m expecting something big out of Bennett this year. Nerlens Noel could have a really good year as well. Who knows they could sneak their way into the playoffs, stranger things have happened.

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  • #943758
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    bigheavy
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    As bad as Philly was last year, you gotta remember they’re still in the east. If they come out strong like they did last year, barring injury who knows what could happen. We’ve all seen what MCW is capable of and I’m expecting something big out of Bennett this year. Nerlens Noel could have a really good year as well. Who knows they could sneak their way into the playoffs, stranger things have happened.

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  • #943896
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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    1…Philadelphia drafted the Rookie of the Year with the 11th pick, and no matter how much some try to bad mouth MCW he put up numbers comparable to Hall Of Fame Point Guards in their Rookie Season, I can only see him get better and become a Leader on this team…

    2…The 76ers traded Jrue Holiday (who missed a lot of time last year BTW) for the # 1 concensus pick pretty injury Nerlens Noel, and they the 10th pick of the following draft class, which they turned into the Best Euro prospect in the Draft and Their Own 1st round Pick lost in The failed Andrew Bynum trade!!! A MASTER STROKE!!!

    3…He wisely used the 3rd pick in the draft on the best Center prospect since Greg Oden, Dwight Howard and Yao Ming, he just has to wait on said Center to rest/recover/practice before seeing him play, TRUE THIS IS A RISKY MOVE, but who should they have drafted instead??? Exum, lol, Randle has his own injuries to date, Gordon was too high a risk, same goes for Vonleh and Smart…Embiid was the best choice Sam Hinkle could make…

    The 2nd rounders we picked up are actually pretty intriguing, McDaniels is a better player than he showed himself to be in summer league, McCrae was a bit of a mini revelation and could certainly make the roster, Grant has the NBA in his DNA, Micic will make an impact at some point in the future…

    4…Now we’re rumored to be trading for the former # 1 pick in Anthony Bennett, who we can all agree has not been given a real chance to highlight his ability, well he just landed in the best place for a young player to get actual playing time…

    5…I believe that a guy like Tony Wroten could break out next year, he’s a scorer albeit an inefficient one at that moment, I think he’s a respectable jump shot away from becoming a real threat…

    6…Anybody we select in the top 6 (which is as far as we’ll drop is just icing on this Cake!!!…we will be ready to either sign a Prime Time Free Agent Or save the cash for our own Homegrown Talent…

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  • #943762
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    The Scare Crow Rises
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    1…Philadelphia drafted the Rookie of the Year with the 11th pick, and no matter how much some try to bad mouth MCW he put up numbers comparable to Hall Of Fame Point Guards in their Rookie Season, I can only see him get better and become a Leader on this team…

    2…The 76ers traded Jrue Holiday (who missed a lot of time last year BTW) for the # 1 concensus pick pretty injury Nerlens Noel, and they the 10th pick of the following draft class, which they turned into the Best Euro prospect in the Draft and Their Own 1st round Pick lost in The failed Andrew Bynum trade!!! A MASTER STROKE!!!

    3…He wisely used the 3rd pick in the draft on the best Center prospect since Greg Oden, Dwight Howard and Yao Ming, he just has to wait on said Center to rest/recover/practice before seeing him play, TRUE THIS IS A RISKY MOVE, but who should they have drafted instead??? Exum, lol, Randle has his own injuries to date, Gordon was too high a risk, same goes for Vonleh and Smart…Embiid was the best choice Sam Hinkle could make…

    The 2nd rounders we picked up are actually pretty intriguing, McDaniels is a better player than he showed himself to be in summer league, McCrae was a bit of a mini revelation and could certainly make the roster, Grant has the NBA in his DNA, Micic will make an impact at some point in the future…

    4…Now we’re rumored to be trading for the former # 1 pick in Anthony Bennett, who we can all agree has not been given a real chance to highlight his ability, well he just landed in the best place for a young player to get actual playing time…

    5…I believe that a guy like Tony Wroten could break out next year, he’s a scorer albeit an inefficient one at that moment, I think he’s a respectable jump shot away from becoming a real threat…

    6…Anybody we select in the top 6 (which is as far as we’ll drop is just icing on this Cake!!!…we will be ready to either sign a Prime Time Free Agent Or save the cash for our own Homegrown Talent…

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  • #943937
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    burgessfour
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    looks really good next year and Embiid is expected to make a full recovery I could see them trading down in the 2015 draft if they get another top 3/5 pick. Hinkie is all about asset collection.

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  • #943803
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    burgessfour
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    looks really good next year and Embiid is expected to make a full recovery I could see them trading down in the 2015 draft if they get another top 3/5 pick. Hinkie is all about asset collection.

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  • #943973
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    burgessfour
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     with all 6 of Scare Crow’s points but point 2 is really amazing. Holiday for Noel, Saric, the 1 back from the Bynum deal and Orlando’s 2 round pick in 2015.

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  • #943839
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    burgessfour
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     with all 6 of Scare Crow’s points but point 2 is really amazing. Holiday for Noel, Saric, the 1 back from the Bynum deal and Orlando’s 2 round pick in 2015.

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  • #943975
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    trelos6
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    Embrace the rebuild.  Hinkie has done an awesome job at asset collection.  All he has to do now is sit back, watch the team develop.

    When it comes time for payday, he could easily flip 1 or 2 players for a few veteran role players and this team could be something.

     

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  • #943841
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    trelos6
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    Embrace the rebuild.  Hinkie has done an awesome job at asset collection.  All he has to do now is sit back, watch the team develop.

    When it comes time for payday, he could easily flip 1 or 2 players for a few veteran role players and this team could be something.

     

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