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  • #57653
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    high floor
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    Of these 2 young, athletic shooting guards who do you believe is the better current and long term prospect? Ben Mclemore is 21 years old and Terrence Ross is 23

    Terrence Ross (2013-2014) – 10.9PPG, 3.1RPG, 1.0APG, 42.3FG%, 83.7FT%, 0.8STLS, 26MPG
    Ben Mclemore (2013-2014) – 8.8PPG, 3.0RPG, 1.0APG, 37.6FG%, 80.4FT%, 0.7STLS, 26MPG

    Individual Season Highlights

    Terrence Ross
    *Season high 51 points against LAC on 1/25
    *In 41 games Terrence scored in double figures
    *In 43 games Terrence hit 2+ Three Pointers
    *In 6 games Terrence recorded 3+ Steals

    Ben Mclemore
    *Season high 31 points against PHO on 4/16
    *In 19 games (post All Star Break) Ben scored in double figures
    *In 14 games Ben connected on 3+ Three Pointers
    *Season high 4 Steals against HOU on 2/25

    Conclusion: I personally believe that both have what it takes to be long term starters at the SG position, and will continue to improve their games next season. Aside from statistics, having watched both Ross and Mclemore multiple times last year my personal eye test tells me that Terrence has the higher 2-way upside. In direct comparison, Ross seems to have much more confidence in his offense (rookie season included) and his on-ball defense seems much stronger.

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  • #942463
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     Ross on both ends. Both will end up being the same imo though. Quality starters but nothing special. Ross does have a little bit more star potential.

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  • #942331
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     Ross on both ends. Both will end up being the same imo though. Quality starters but nothing special. Ross does have a little bit more star potential.

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  • #942341
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    Ross is no doubt the much better player currently and also a better prospect. Not really much discussion needed for why Ross is better now, but in my opinion he is the better prospect due to his defensive ability. Ben Mclemore I have no doubt will eventually become a consistent 3point threat due to his sound shooting mechanics. But, I dont see him becoming the 2 way player Ross projects to be (one would say Paul George esque type player).

    Both are high character guys with all the tools and athleticism in the world (McLemore slightly undersized for sg position). Just dont see McLemore ever catching up with Ross defensively. Ross is just scratching the surface of his potential as he has played behind Rudy Gay and Demar Derozan much of his short 2 year career. 

    Love both players but much like Big_C_KU, I consider Ross the better current and long term prospect. 

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  • #942473
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    Ross is no doubt the much better player currently and also a better prospect. Not really much discussion needed for why Ross is better now, but in my opinion he is the better prospect due to his defensive ability. Ben Mclemore I have no doubt will eventually become a consistent 3point threat due to his sound shooting mechanics. But, I dont see him becoming the 2 way player Ross projects to be (one would say Paul George esque type player).

    Both are high character guys with all the tools and athleticism in the world (McLemore slightly undersized for sg position). Just dont see McLemore ever catching up with Ross defensively. Ross is just scratching the surface of his potential as he has played behind Rudy Gay and Demar Derozan much of his short 2 year career. 

    Love both players but much like Big_C_KU, I consider Ross the better current and long term prospect. 

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  • #942361
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    A couple things to add: 

    Ross has two years of NBA experience. McLemore only has one. If you compare their stats from their rookies seasons, McLemore has an edge. 

    In summer league, McLemore really looked like he was starting to learn to leverage his athleticism defensively. There were a few times when his positioning on ball against drivers was spectacular. He would beat drivers to the spot, the drivers would make a countermove, and he would beat them to that spot.

    He still struggles with his team defensive concepts, but his individual defense looked really good. 

    I’m not sure if his offense will ever be more than a spot-up shooter and straight-line driver, but he could become a premier 3 and D player.  

     

     

     

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  • #942494
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    A couple things to add: 

    Ross has two years of NBA experience. McLemore only has one. If you compare their stats from their rookies seasons, McLemore has an edge. 

    In summer league, McLemore really looked like he was starting to learn to leverage his athleticism defensively. There were a few times when his positioning on ball against drivers was spectacular. He would beat drivers to the spot, the drivers would make a countermove, and he would beat them to that spot.

    He still struggles with his team defensive concepts, but his individual defense looked really good. 

    I’m not sure if his offense will ever be more than a spot-up shooter and straight-line driver, but he could become a premier 3 and D player.  

     

     

     

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  • #942363
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    McLemore has more potential. His movement is so graceful and fluid while at the same time being explosive and violent. His athleticism and movement remind me of Jordan. However, the reason I would take Ross in this debate is because of the ways Ben is not like Jordan. His overall feel for the game and awareness are both really low. I also question his mentality, desire to be great, and competitiveness. Still very young but if I had to guess I don’t think he will ever reach his potential. 

    Was a huge fan of Ross before the draft and loved his offensive potential. His defensive effort and ability really surprised me in his first two years. Like others have said he looks like he will be better on the defensive end than Ben. 

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  • #942496
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    McLemore has more potential. His movement is so graceful and fluid while at the same time being explosive and violent. His athleticism and movement remind me of Jordan. However, the reason I would take Ross in this debate is because of the ways Ben is not like Jordan. His overall feel for the game and awareness are both really low. I also question his mentality, desire to be great, and competitiveness. Still very young but if I had to guess I don’t think he will ever reach his potential. 

    Was a huge fan of Ross before the draft and loved his offensive potential. His defensive effort and ability really surprised me in his first two years. Like others have said he looks like he will be better on the defensive end than Ben. 

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  • #942377
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    McLemore is 2 years younger and has a year less experience. McLemore has a little time, but Ross has more confidence in himself and so does his coaching staff.

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  • #942510
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    McLemore is 2 years younger and has a year less experience. McLemore has a little time, but Ross has more confidence in himself and so does his coaching staff.

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    Well it’s your typical crazy atheltic wing with great shooting ability that makes them ooze with potential. As of right now from why I’ve seen I’d take Terrence Ross. He’s a true basketball player that happens to be a freak athlete. I loved McLemore out of college and his picture perfect form and smoothness that reminds me of a Ray Allen 2.0, but it seems that he doesn’t have that much of basketball brain, or "IQ” as most would say but IQ is a very broad word. 

    I may get a little off topic here, but being naturally talented and blessed with jumping and height can only take you so far in basketball. It’s the competitors and the guys that learn from their mistakes to get better are the guys thy have better over all basketball careers then the ones that hit play the game. Their decesion making gets better and efficiency goes up and in the end result leads to more wins. It’s hard to explain but it’s what seperates a veteran from a rookie. 

    My point is their is guys like Michael Beasly and Javale McGee (Natural talent who don’t get better and don’t win games) then their is guys like Steve Nash and Tim Duncan (Not naturally athletic but seems to get better with age because they learn and get smarter and more skilled every year). Either McLemore of Ross can become the next highlight film all star, but for some reason I see McLemore being on that McGee and Beasly list (Even though he isn’t as stupid and cares about the games of basketball) and that’s why I’m picking Ross. Sorry for the long comment.

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    Well it’s your typical crazy atheltic wing with great shooting ability that makes them ooze with potential. As of right now from why I’ve seen I’d take Terrence Ross. He’s a true basketball player that happens to be a freak athlete. I loved McLemore out of college and his picture perfect form and smoothness that reminds me of a Ray Allen 2.0, but it seems that he doesn’t have that much of basketball brain, or "IQ” as most would say but IQ is a very broad word. 

    I may get a little off topic here, but being naturally talented and blessed with jumping and height can only take you so far in basketball. It’s the competitors and the guys that learn from their mistakes to get better are the guys thy have better over all basketball careers then the ones that hit play the game. Their decesion making gets better and efficiency goes up and in the end result leads to more wins. It’s hard to explain but it’s what seperates a veteran from a rookie. 

    My point is their is guys like Michael Beasly and Javale McGee (Natural talent who don’t get better and don’t win games) then their is guys like Steve Nash and Tim Duncan (Not naturally athletic but seems to get better with age because they learn and get smarter and more skilled every year). Either McLemore of Ross can become the next highlight film all star, but for some reason I see McLemore being on that McGee and Beasly list (Even though he isn’t as stupid and cares about the games of basketball) and that’s why I’m picking Ross. Sorry for the long comment.

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       Totally agree with this. Mclemore does not have that feel that he is a very smart player. I don’t know if it’s just me but it feels that he always seems disinterested and sloppy when in games. I know some will disagree with me here but that’s why he slipped in last year’s draft.

      Given this, I’ll take Ross. McLemore is a really soft and sloppy dribbler and his shot is hella inconsistent. Ross has the height and the potential to be a decent post-up player with it. Ross is the better defender for sure. I remember in the playoffs he stuck it on Deron Williams and Deron just couldn’t shake him. Ross has also less competition with PT.

       

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    • #942523
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       Totally agree with this. Mclemore does not have that feel that he is a very smart player. I don’t know if it’s just me but it feels that he always seems disinterested and sloppy when in games. I know some will disagree with me here but that’s why he slipped in last year’s draft.

      Given this, I’ll take Ross. McLemore is a really soft and sloppy dribbler and his shot is hella inconsistent. Ross has the height and the potential to be a decent post-up player with it. Ross is the better defender for sure. I remember in the playoffs he stuck it on Deron Williams and Deron just couldn’t shake him. Ross has also less competition with PT.

       

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