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    mikeyvthedon
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    In an interview with 790 The Ticket in Miami, NBA commissioner David Stern indicated the league is considering adopting the international goaltending rule.

    “Well I’m going to urge the owners — and it’s not very radical but we were talking about it for awhile — to adopt the international rule on basket interference,” Stern said.

    “That is to say, once the ball hits the rim it’s in play. Because I think that it’s too hard to call. I think that we don’t want to stop the game every time to see if it’s the right call, but the camera that looks down on the basket can tell the story if the refs have gotten it right. And it’s just impossible to call to make whether the ball’s touching the rim, on the rim, off the rim or the like. And I think that would make the game faster, better, and less controversial. And I think we’re going to be putting in more — I forget the exact number — just more replay opportunities because we really want to get it right. So those are the biggest things.

    “I also think we’re going to be talking about cutting out a timeout or two to move the game along. The last period, even in a close game, shouldn’t begin to approach an hour.”

    Read more: http://basketball.realgm.com/wiretap/213386/Stern_Favors_International_Goaltending_Rule#ixzz1KpX1F11n

     

    Personally, I think this would be completely fine. It is really difficult to call offensive interference, and while it would provide some change defensively, the effect would not be completely catastrophic. You would still have goaltending on defense, just no more worrying about where the ball is in the cylinder. I will say that the OKC call was still a major joke, and this should in no way make up for that call in Game 1, where the rule was still definitely in effect. But, I thought that this rule could be cool to make universal, and no longer have to wait or worry about the ball being in the cylinder, as it is indeed difficult to judge at times, and also difficult to time in general. Thoughts?

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  • #526116
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    omphalos
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    I don’t like it at all. What do you mean by goal-tending on defense? It can’t just be that offensively it’s in play. I’m fairly certain you can rip it off if it’s rolling around up there, which I think is ridiculous. If that’s the way it is played I hope it never finds its way into the NBA. Yes, it’s a difficult call, but in all the games I’ve watched the referees manage to do a pretty good job of calling it, and it’s only a couple of times I’ve seen it go wrong. I’d rather have a few miscalls than changing the rule for the worse in my opinion.

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  • #526118
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    mikeyvthedon
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    That if a ball is already on its downward path, it would still be goaltending on defense. Yes, it would mean that if a ball was rolling around, you could grab it off of the rim, but do you know how rarely that happens? It is not exactly like a guy is going to reach inside the basket and take out a ball. It does mean that once it hits the rim, you can grab it, which I think is perfectly reasonable. I think offensive goaltending is slightly ridiculous and that it would just be another factor that would speed the game up and make it more exciting.

    For you highlight people out there, this is going to make rebounding and putback dunks that much cooler. Can you imagine not having to wait for the ball to be out of a fictional cylinder? Yes, I know people are worried that players will have free reign to take shots off of the rim that still could possibly be going down, but I promise you, that is not going to be as big of an issue as you think it is. To everyone who has watched the Olympics or watches international basketball, this rule just seems to make sense as opposed to be an unfair advantage for big, athletic players to knock out shots that are going down.

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  • #526123
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    omphalos
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    Okay, I see what you’re saying, but this is the situation I dread; it’s game 7 of the Finals, lets say the Lakers are down one, at the last second, Kobe pulls up and shoots a fadeaway. It is bouncing around the ring after the buzzer, is the guy still allowed to grab it? Say that shot is ripped off the ring and the championship is taken away because of that… instead of a miraculous finish where it goes all around and just drops in, some 7 footer would just smack it out. Not sure if I could take that.

    I’m not too familiar with the rule, but if that is how it’s played I want none of it. The cylinder is enough for me.

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  • #526126
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    BismarkBiyombo
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    I think they have it right already Ive never watched a game where their was so many goaltending calls that it affected the game too much. MOst of the time there is one a game if any.

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  • #526129
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    mikeyvthedon
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    But, it would be only once the ball has come off of the rim that you could grab it. You cannot hit the rim or do anything like that, and the timing would have to be pretty spot on. The odds are, if Kobe is shooting a last second jumper in Game 7, that ball would not be effected by this rule. I do not think many games in Europe or Internationally have been negatively effected by it, and most people would not risk hitting a ball on the rim in fear of actual goaltending.

    What it also would mean is that at the end of a game, if you took a shot, you would have more liberty to try and tip it in without fear of offensive goaltending. It also means that shots bouncing around the rim that might not be going in can be swiped and taken the other way. I do not think it effects shooting as much as one would think. Most players are not relying on lucky bounces for a majority of their shots, and it would indeed just be another factor that speeds up play in some marginal situations.

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  • #526213
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    Tha_Prince
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     Ya the Perkins tip in game 1 was evidence of how hard it is to judge and officiate, that basket won the game for the Thunder basically. 

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