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  • #28805
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    TheFactionCoalition.com
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    I’ll probably discuss a few things here, but what I really want to see is a trade proposal involving Kobe that makes sense for both teams. His best years are behind him, he has a huge contract, and ignoring drop off rates or stat comparisons to past aging superstars, he looks like he only has a couple of years left as a superstar. I know some people will think this is crazy, that Kobe still averages 25ppg, but the list of players I’d rather have on my team than Kobe is a lot longer this year than it was last year. I’m not saying the Lakers should trade Kobe, I’m only saying they should consider it.

    These teams have to consider the totality of how much each piece will give them and how much that piece costs. I wouldn’t underestimate how people will look at him after a sweep in the playoffs. If you look at this Dallas team on paper, you kind of have to ask yourself how the hell did this happen? From a business standpoint you have to consider the draw of Kobe and the jersey sales, but Kobe is a depreciating asset on the court. Would you trade him while you could get some young talent in return? Maybe shorten the length of your rebuilding? ? These are questions I would be asking myself if I’m LA.

    Obviously his mileage means if you trade for him you are in a win now situation. So what teams would be interested in him that could actually pull it off? There are a lot of teams that could use a great 2g, but ones that have the assets to trade away and still contend? Kobe is NOT capable of getting to the finals by himself. He never really had to do it in the first place, but he probably could have in the past.

    So where can you see him going? Would a team trade young talent for Kobe if they knew it meant they could make the playoffs but the finals would be highly unlikely and knowing he would be making 32milli when he is 35 and essentially trading away your future?

    I would love to see him with Howard in Orlando but they have nada to trade, it would bring back memories. Denver and Portland have young assets and are playoff teams that he could fit nicely with. 

     

     

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  • #530501
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    GlenTaylorSucks
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    I’m pretty sure Kobe has a full no-trade clause on his contract. Unless he waives that, he’s going nowhere. And it’d be incredibly difficult to get value back for him- outside of Durant, Griffin, Rose, Howard (i.e. a guy that you can build a franchise around). Even then, it’d be a very bad idea to trade Kobe. It’s not happening.

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  • #530503
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    JJeff6
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     Im trying to think of a plausible trade for Kobe, and its extremely tough.  A lot of teams dont even have the talent to give in return for Kobe and they few teams that do, you would have to really break apart the team to even make an offer to get Kobe.  I just dont see it happening.  He will be in LA for the remainder of his years.

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  • #530507
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    TheFactionCoalition.com
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    Does anyone think Kobe would turn down a trade to another contender? He is probably as sick of Gasol as everyone else is. Jackson is retiring, but I’m not sure how big of a deal that is. . .on top of that Kobe has requested a trade in the past, so it’s not like he’s never thought about leaving.

    I really don’t think it’s that tough finding value for Kobe, I think there are a lot of teams that wouldn’t trade their young, rather inexpensive talent for an aging Kobe. 3 very expensive years of Kobe versus a player you hope to build your team around, a guy that is your future? I think there are a lot of teams that wouldn’t trade for Kobe, while you make it seem like there are not a lot of players the Lakers would want in return. You are thinking short-term, and that’s fine, in my opinion, trading Kobe could be a better long-term solution if it’s the right trade. 

    It’s def tough, but that was the point. I couldn’t figure out a trade that made sense for both teams, that’s why I threw it out there. A team would have to have a talented young player or two and a large expiring contract or two.  

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  • #530511
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    BlueLaces
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    The Lakers don’t have to worry about rebuilding and acquiring young talent.  They are the Los Angeles Lakers.  Players are always going to want to come to LA and play in front of all the stars and celebrities and enjoy all the perks of being a Laker.

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  • #530536
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    Ahkasi Clay
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     I am not sure you get back enough for him to make it worth while!

    yes he is a hall of fame player in waiting, but…

    @ this point, him getting traded would be like shaq getting traded to phoenix, robert horry getting traded to…( ok i admit he has been trade so many times i forgot the last one!) gail goodrich, pistol pete ect…

    many good players at the end of their career get traded, in the hope that they can help a contender, but i don’t see a team with a chance to win giving up much value for a guy that most people see as "the trust issue" on a team that not only got swept, but embarrased themselves

     

    I understand that la is a big market, and that the fanboys will give me negs!, ; )

     

     

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  • #530539
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    TheFactionCoalition.com
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    With Anaheim attempting to get a franchise, and Blake a very attractive teammate as a Clipper, you think the Lakers will never have to rebuild? People like to play in NY as well, and they’ve had to rebuild. Bad front office decisions obviously have had an effect on that, but the Lakers may not always be the sexiest destination, or be able to pull off Gasol like trades. Seems kind of ridiculous to just say it will always work out because "they are the Los Angeles Lakers."

    Wouldn’t the time be now with some great free agents coming available in the next two years? Every year there are always a few but after next year a lot of the superstars will be locked up. The best players available the year Kobe becomes a FA will be this year’s rookies and they are all restricted FA’s unless the CBA changes that. . .

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  • #532465
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    BlueLaces
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    Well, The Lakers have won 15 championships and have only not made the playoffs 5 times.  I think it’s safe to say that it will always work out for them because "they are the Los Angeles Lakers."

    Not only are good players attracted to the glitz and glam of LA, but good coaches and GM’s alike are attracted to what LA can offer as well.

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