[laarethekingsParticipant]

Now with George lost for the season, Stephenson gone and the playoffs far away. Even if they can pull together were still talking about a 8th seed team. The Bulls of the last few seasons maybe. Why not rip it all apart and set yourself for an even better run when your Superstar comes back?

Roy Hibbert- Can still be a defenivse nightmare, Is a top 6 center and his days in Indy looked numbered before Paul went down. A team like OKC looking for that last player could want to swing a deal.

David West- Who wouldn’t want a Vet like West for a playoff run? 5 teams would be on West if they could.

Grorge Hill- One of the best D minded PG in the league. Played a lot of big game B Ball.

 

Now I’m not saying they can get the world for these guys, but you make SMART trades for players or picks that you see helping you after this season. Also being bad for one year opens the door to draft a highend talent which is the hardest part about being a good team at anything. Is getting highend talent in your building.

And I think from a Indys Fan eyes they wouldn’t be mad about it. They know they got the raw end of the deal already. Why not try and turn it into a plus. Come out of it bigger and better than when it happened.

[Jayhawks2011Participant]

Deals they should consider.

Roy Hibbert to the Blazers for M. Leonord, CJ. McCollum, T Rob.

David West PHX for T. Ennis and a Morris bro

George Hill does not have any real value as he is an overpaid comboguard who doens’t create his own shot.

 

 

[Jayhawks2011Participant]

Deals they should consider.

Roy Hibbert to the Blazers for M. Leonord, CJ. McCollum, T Rob.

David West PHX for T. Ennis and a Morris bro

George Hill does not have any real value as he is an overpaid comboguard who doens’t create his own shot.

 

 

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 The worst thing you could ever do for a player returning from a missed season would be to surround him with players he hasn’t played with. They already have a very good team, pick up a nice lottery talent, and move on to the next year. No reason to trade away your valuable players when they are at their lowest point in value.

[FearTheStacheParticipant]

 The worst thing you could ever do for a player returning from a missed season would be to surround him with players he hasn’t played with. They already have a very good team, pick up a nice lottery talent, and move on to the next year. No reason to trade away your valuable players when they are at their lowest point in value.

[TRC1991Participant]

George Hill’s contract is what kills his value more than anything else…But, you are right – he is more of a combo guard 

[TRC1991Participant]

George Hill’s contract is what kills his value more than anything else…But, you are right – he is more of a combo guard 

[CU.LIONSParticipant]

I think D West would be good for teams like OKC and Houston amongst others. West s not getting any younger. The worst thing the Pacers can do is stay mid-pack. With a healthy PG they weren’t going to contend for the Championship next season. With losing Lance and now PG, they need to hit lottery and get another young star to play with PG the following year. So if they could get a draft pick and/or a young player in return for West they need to do it.

Something like Terrence Jones and a pick from Houston for example. Or J Lamb and a pick from OKC (with maybe some fillers.)

 

[CU.LIONSParticipant]

I think D West would be good for teams like OKC and Houston amongst others. West s not getting any younger. The worst thing the Pacers can do is stay mid-pack. With a healthy PG they weren’t going to contend for the Championship next season. With losing Lance and now PG, they need to hit lottery and get another young star to play with PG the following year. So if they could get a draft pick and/or a young player in return for West they need to do it.

Something like Terrence Jones and a pick from Houston for example. Or J Lamb and a pick from OKC (with maybe some fillers.)

 

[PapoParticipant]

I’d keep D.West, he’s one of those gys who’ll always contribute. I’d take a decent trade with or without PG healthy. That guy’s a bum man and George Hill is not a NBA starting 1. He’s better suited for the role he played in San Antonio. 

[PapoParticipant]

I’d keep D.West, he’s one of those gys who’ll always contribute. I’d take a decent trade with or without PG healthy. That guy’s a bum man and George Hill is not a NBA starting 1. He’s better suited for the role he played in San Antonio. 

[festar35Participant]

 I would honestly talk to David West and get a gauge of how he feels about what is happening in Indiana. I think if he says he wants to play with a contender that Indiana should support that as he will still bring a nice return. 

 

Teams that could use him:
Charlotte – Grab a young big, Zeller or Vonleh and maybe expiring contract.
Cleveland – If cant get Love, go after Waiters if he wants to start and they add West with keeping Wiggins.
Houston – Jones/Motejunas and draft pick.
OKC – Reggie Jackson would be a great future PG and maybe another expiring contract like Perkins.
Phoenix – I would want Bledsoe to tell you the truth and if Phoenix wont pay Indiana may have room with 5mil injury cover and moving West for an offer of 13-14mil a year.

Roy Hibbert would fit well with Portland or Sacramento with a young package in return.

[festar35Participant]

 I would honestly talk to David West and get a gauge of how he feels about what is happening in Indiana. I think if he says he wants to play with a contender that Indiana should support that as he will still bring a nice return. 

 

Teams that could use him:
Charlotte – Grab a young big, Zeller or Vonleh and maybe expiring contract.
Cleveland – If cant get Love, go after Waiters if he wants to start and they add West with keeping Wiggins.
Houston – Jones/Motejunas and draft pick.
OKC – Reggie Jackson would be a great future PG and maybe another expiring contract like Perkins.
Phoenix – I would want Bledsoe to tell you the truth and if Phoenix wont pay Indiana may have room with 5mil injury cover and moving West for an offer of 13-14mil a year.

Roy Hibbert would fit well with Portland or Sacramento with a young package in return.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

If he wants to play for a contender, why would he leave Indiana?  Yeah, they’ll be mediocre this year, but it’s not like he’s about to retire.  In a year, they’ll (presumably) have an older, better Paul George, Roy hibbert when he’s not playing horrible basketball, and west himself should he choose to stay.  That’s not a bad trio.

I feel like people are overreacting to how bad the pacers looked in the playoffs last season.  Obviously that’s not who they are.  They’re a stellar defensive team with a lot of offensive potential and are probably one of the top 5 biggest contenders in the league in two years.  David west would really be taking his chances if he "wanted to get moved to a contender".  Unless he got sent to okc (where he wouldn’t start) or Cleveland (where he wouldn’t start) or LA (where he wouldn’t start), he pacers are probably his best bet for winning a title, especially if he still wants big minutes.  And he’s a competitor.  He does.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

If he wants to play for a contender, why would he leave Indiana?  Yeah, they’ll be mediocre this year, but it’s not like he’s about to retire.  In a year, they’ll (presumably) have an older, better Paul George, Roy hibbert when he’s not playing horrible basketball, and west himself should he choose to stay.  That’s not a bad trio.

I feel like people are overreacting to how bad the pacers looked in the playoffs last season.  Obviously that’s not who they are.  They’re a stellar defensive team with a lot of offensive potential and are probably one of the top 5 biggest contenders in the league in two years.  David west would really be taking his chances if he "wanted to get moved to a contender".  Unless he got sent to okc (where he wouldn’t start) or Cleveland (where he wouldn’t start) or LA (where he wouldn’t start), he pacers are probably his best bet for winning a title, especially if he still wants big minutes.  And he’s a competitor.  He does.

[MopgrassParticipant]

If they fire sale, they should do it in a matter of days, if humanly possible. As soon as a GM trades the 1st big chip, everyone low-balls them because they know they must trade the others too.

[MopgrassParticipant]

If they fire sale, they should do it in a matter of days, if humanly possible. As soon as a GM trades the 1st big chip, everyone low-balls them because they know they must trade the others too.

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 One option, very unlikely, is that the Pacers clear everything out.  The Knicks could make that happen.

Expring Amare and Bargnani plus Tim Hardaway and a first rounder go to Indiana.

Hibbert, West, Hill, Scola and Mahinmi go to New York.

That gets Pacers out of nearly $40,000,000 of salary for 2015-16.  New York has Hibbert, West, Anthony, that gives them a very good frontline.

Then a year from now, the Pacers are building around a healthy George, Hardaway and probably a lottery pick, plus a big free agent star ir two.

 

Maybe some other ideas, smaller ones.  West and Mahinmi to the Kings, with McLemore and expiring Terry and D Williams to Indiana.

Hibbert to OKC, expiring Perkins and S Adams to Indiana.  

George Hill for expiring Landry Fields from Toronto, or Hill to Minnesota for Barea and Shved.

Scola to a contender.  He would be a good fit with the Spurs.  A trade could be worked out there, maybe the Clippers could use Scola but they don’t have much to offer.  

 

If the think George is going to be ready to start season 2015-16, maybe they the team together.  If George could miss a season and a half, maybe trade all the veterans now.

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[ExumInfernoParticipant]

 One option, very unlikely, is that the Pacers clear everything out.  The Knicks could make that happen.

Expring Amare and Bargnani plus Tim Hardaway and a first rounder go to Indiana.

Hibbert, West, Hill, Scola and Mahinmi go to New York.

That gets Pacers out of nearly $40,000,000 of salary for 2015-16.  New York has Hibbert, West, Anthony, that gives them a very good frontline.

Then a year from now, the Pacers are building around a healthy George, Hardaway and probably a lottery pick, plus a big free agent star ir two.

 

Maybe some other ideas, smaller ones.  West and Mahinmi to the Kings, with McLemore and expiring Terry and D Williams to Indiana.

Hibbert to OKC, expiring Perkins and S Adams to Indiana.  

George Hill for expiring Landry Fields from Toronto, or Hill to Minnesota for Barea and Shved.

Scola to a contender.  He would be a good fit with the Spurs.  A trade could be worked out there, maybe the Clippers could use Scola but they don’t have much to offer.  

 

If the think George is going to be ready to start season 2015-16, maybe they the team together.  If George could miss a season and a half, maybe trade all the veterans now.

 

 

  

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There’s no way Larry Bird, Kevin Pritchard and Donnie Walsh would blow it up. That’s just not their style. I see them taking the same approach the Bulls have the last two seasons with Derrick Rose injured. 

They’ll definitely speak with David West to see if he wants to be traded, since he’s older and wants to play for a title. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Luis Scola traded as well. 

Other than that though, I just see the Pacers grinding it out this season and getting Paul George back healthy next season. I know everyone is being optimistic (obviously they’re not going to say he’s doomed), but based on all reports, George should recover 100% from the injury and going hard by training camp next season. 

 

 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There’s no way Larry Bird, Kevin Pritchard and Donnie Walsh would blow it up. That’s just not their style. I see them taking the same approach the Bulls have the last two seasons with Derrick Rose injured. 

They’ll definitely speak with David West to see if he wants to be traded, since he’s older and wants to play for a title. I wouldn’t be surprised to see Luis Scola traded as well. 

Other than that though, I just see the Pacers grinding it out this season and getting Paul George back healthy next season. I know everyone is being optimistic (obviously they’re not going to say he’s doomed), but based on all reports, George should recover 100% from the injury and going hard by training camp next season. 

 

 

 

[Tune SquadParticipant]

When I saw the Paul George injury, half an hour later I just kept thinking that Indiana needs to reshuffle the deck and deal Hibbert at least. Here are two possible scenarios that I came up with:

Phoenix sends Bledsoe on a sign and trade (providing that he signs for less than max to get out of there) and Alex Len for Hibbert, Chris Copeland.

Sacramento sends Stauskas (Bird’s kind of player), Williams, McCallum, Terry for Hibbert, Sloan and Copeland.

The Pacers could always take a swing at Gasol in free agency and in the meantime would have probably at least a decent 2015 draft pick to add to a new line-up when PG gets back hopefully at full health next year. Until then it would be essentially Bledoe’s team (in the Phx trade scenario) which combined with the chance to play with George hopefully will be enough to encourage him to sign for less than the max. 

 

 

 

 

 

[Tune SquadParticipant]

When I saw the Paul George injury, half an hour later I just kept thinking that Indiana needs to reshuffle the deck and deal Hibbert at least. Here are two possible scenarios that I came up with:

Phoenix sends Bledsoe on a sign and trade (providing that he signs for less than max to get out of there) and Alex Len for Hibbert, Chris Copeland.

Sacramento sends Stauskas (Bird’s kind of player), Williams, McCallum, Terry for Hibbert, Sloan and Copeland.

The Pacers could always take a swing at Gasol in free agency and in the meantime would have probably at least a decent 2015 draft pick to add to a new line-up when PG gets back hopefully at full health next year. Until then it would be essentially Bledoe’s team (in the Phx trade scenario) which combined with the chance to play with George hopefully will be enough to encourage him to sign for less than the max. 

 

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

Hibbert’s trade stock is probably fairly low at the moment so trading him at this point would not be a good idea IMO. He also has a player option next year so the Pacers have to be aware of that but at this point in time, I don’t see Big Roy turning down a guaranteed $15.5 million next year.

David West is a harder one, he’s a good locker room presence, hard working pro proven record but he is 34 years old soon and again has a player option next year. It may seem unlikely that a 35 year old would opt out of $12.6 million for 2015-16 but if West might explore FA if he really wanted to chase a title. Also is it wise to pay $12 million this year to a guy in his mid 30’s when the team is unlikely to contend and they might get a nice package from a contender for West.

I would not advocate a fire sale for Pacers but they should consider all offers and if one looks good to them then maybe pull the trigger.

[HitsterParticipant]

Hibbert’s trade stock is probably fairly low at the moment so trading him at this point would not be a good idea IMO. He also has a player option next year so the Pacers have to be aware of that but at this point in time, I don’t see Big Roy turning down a guaranteed $15.5 million next year.

David West is a harder one, he’s a good locker room presence, hard working pro proven record but he is 34 years old soon and again has a player option next year. It may seem unlikely that a 35 year old would opt out of $12.6 million for 2015-16 but if West might explore FA if he really wanted to chase a title. Also is it wise to pay $12 million this year to a guy in his mid 30’s when the team is unlikely to contend and they might get a nice package from a contender for West.

I would not advocate a fire sale for Pacers but they should consider all offers and if one looks good to them then maybe pull the trigger.

[Toronto16Participant]

 They should definitely make a play for Bledsoe.

[Toronto16Participant]

 They should definitely make a play for Bledsoe.

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I saw a stat the other day that stated that the pacers played only 28 combined minutes last season without either paul george or lance stephenson on the floor…that shows how important they were to the team……

[RUDEBOY_Participant]

I saw a stat the other day that stated that the pacers played only 28 combined minutes last season without either paul george or lance stephenson on the floor…that shows how important they were to the team……

[rileymcshea3Participant]

David West for Ben McLemore?

Other players would probably have to be involved for salary reasons but Pacers get a replacement for Stephenson with potential.

Kings lineup

PG-Darren Collison

SG-Nik Stauskas

SF-Rudy Gay

PF-David West

C-Demarcus Cousins

[rileymcshea3Participant]

David West for Ben McLemore?

Other players would probably have to be involved for salary reasons but Pacers get a replacement for Stephenson with potential.

Kings lineup

PG-Darren Collison

SG-Nik Stauskas

SF-Rudy Gay

PF-David West

C-Demarcus Cousins

[Tune SquadParticipant]

Would the Lakers (in their continuous quest to be relavent and curtsy to Kobe’s competitive ego) trade Randle, Clarkson and Lin for Hibbert and Watson?

Would that be enough for Indiana in return and would a Hibbert/ Boozer frontcourt be effective enough for the Lakers to put them back into any serious kind of playoff picture (seems if anyone would offset Boozer’s horrible D it might be Hibbert)?

[Tune SquadParticipant]

Would the Lakers (in their continuous quest to be relavent and curtsy to Kobe’s competitive ego) trade Randle, Clarkson and Lin for Hibbert and Watson?

Would that be enough for Indiana in return and would a Hibbert/ Boozer frontcourt be effective enough for the Lakers to put them back into any serious kind of playoff picture (seems if anyone would offset Boozer’s horrible D it might be Hibbert)?

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