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  • #56727
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    A rumor floating around the camp fire is the 76ers are looking to move up for Aaron Gordon(Hinkie originally wanted him at 10)

    The likely trade partners being the Jazz/Lakers/Kings

    The Jazz want to offload a bad contract and add a stretch PF, so it would likley be 5 and Williams/Jefferson for 10 and Thad Young

    The Lakers want to dump Steve Nash’s contract and keep a Lottery Pick, so I think 7 and Nash for the 10th and 39th pick is what is being discussed

    The Kings want Thad and 10 for the 8th and Jason Thompson from what I hear if they can’t get Milsap + 15 from Atlanta or Taj Gibson + 16 from Chicago

    The 76ers want to pair defensive standout Nerlens Noel with another defensive standout in Aaron Gordon, they feel they can be a force on Defense and run the break ala hard ala Blake Griffin and De’Andre Jordan

    Also heard they want to Trade the 3rd and 32nd pick + a future 1st to Orlando for 4 and 12, The Magic would than take Smart who the 76ers are said to like next to MCW, 76ers would take Aaron Gordon 4th, and see who’s left at 10 and 12, they get a Shooting Guard and Small Forward combo to pair with MCW/Gordon/Noel

    they’d have these players to choose from 

    Harris, Lavine, Stauskas, Young or Adams to play SG

    McDermont, Hood, Early or Anderson to play SF

    Any combo would fine, Lavine and Hood have the potential, Stauskas and McDermont can flat shoot the ball right now and fit the analytical mold Hinkie is looking for…

    A line up of MCW, Stauskas, McDermont, Gordon and Noel with Wroten off the bench seems pretty decent going forward…swap Nik with Zach and Dougie with Rod Hood and I wouldn’t be mad at you Sam Hinkie…

    Thoughts on Philadelphia trading for Gordon? They either move up from 10 to get him or trade down to 4 and pick him in top 5

     

      

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

      

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  • #925980
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    MisterMorden
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     Gordon at 4 would be a waste of a pick. 

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  • #925850
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    MisterMorden
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     Gordon at 4 would be a waste of a pick. 

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  • #925982
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    Clean187
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     Honestly, if Philly came out of the draft with MCW, Stauskas, McDermont, Gordon, & Noel, I’d be so depressed. And they’d have given up a future 1 on top!

    I like Gordon in a vacum, but him paired with Noel….there is just no offense from your from frontcourt. That would be a worry for me. 

     

     

     

     

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  • #925852
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    Clean187
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     Honestly, if Philly came out of the draft with MCW, Stauskas, McDermont, Gordon, & Noel, I’d be so depressed. And they’d have given up a future 1 on top!

    I like Gordon in a vacum, but him paired with Noel….there is just no offense from your from frontcourt. That would be a worry for me. 

     

     

     

     

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    • #926002
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      The 76ers would be leaving with Aaron Gordon who is the best defender in the draft and has A ton of Athleticism and Potential, pair him up with Noel and that’s at least 4 blocks and 3 to 4 steals per game, that alone could bring more fast breaks/highlights/excitement to our team, not to mention the hard working/High IQ he brings to the table, do you seriously think he and Noel fail to get better? Than you laugh off Nik Stauskus and Doug McDermont, two of the best shooters and scorers in the entire draft, ready to contribute and play major minutes for any team in the NBA? You would be depressed to walk away with those two guys? I would be happy to leave with any of those guys at 10 and 12 in this scenario where they trade 3(Embiid/Smart/Exum) and a future 1st for 4 and 12

      I’m not sure what you’d want from Sam Hinkie, to draft an injured Center prospect back to back? To take an unknown international prospect that plays a lot like your Rookie of the Year PG? 

      Embiid’s injury kinda shot us in the foot, we had any of the Big 3 to choose from, now we have to get creative and leave with the Player with the most Star Potential and that may be Gordon if you look hard enough( I would even make a strong case for Julius Randle at 4 in this Scenario, Gordon just does so much more than Randle IMO)

       

       

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    • #925872
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      The 76ers would be leaving with Aaron Gordon who is the best defender in the draft and has A ton of Athleticism and Potential, pair him up with Noel and that’s at least 4 blocks and 3 to 4 steals per game, that alone could bring more fast breaks/highlights/excitement to our team, not to mention the hard working/High IQ he brings to the table, do you seriously think he and Noel fail to get better? Than you laugh off Nik Stauskus and Doug McDermont, two of the best shooters and scorers in the entire draft, ready to contribute and play major minutes for any team in the NBA? You would be depressed to walk away with those two guys? I would be happy to leave with any of those guys at 10 and 12 in this scenario where they trade 3(Embiid/Smart/Exum) and a future 1st for 4 and 12

      I’m not sure what you’d want from Sam Hinkie, to draft an injured Center prospect back to back? To take an unknown international prospect that plays a lot like your Rookie of the Year PG? 

      Embiid’s injury kinda shot us in the foot, we had any of the Big 3 to choose from, now we have to get creative and leave with the Player with the most Star Potential and that may be Gordon if you look hard enough( I would even make a strong case for Julius Randle at 4 in this Scenario, Gordon just does so much more than Randle IMO)

       

       

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      • #926008
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        Clean187
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        Do you seriously think he and Noel fail to get better? Significantly better, yes. 

        Then you laugh off Nik Stauskus and Doug McDermont, two of the best shooters and scorers in the entire draft, ready to contribute and play major minutes for any team in the NBA? Yes. Yes I do. 

        You would be depressed to walk away with those two guys? Yes

        I thank God Sam Hinkie is in charge, because you’d be trading away all our future #1’s to turn us into the Utah Jazz. 

         

         

         

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      • #925878
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        Clean187
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        Do you seriously think he and Noel fail to get better? Significantly better, yes. 

        Then you laugh off Nik Stauskus and Doug McDermont, two of the best shooters and scorers in the entire draft, ready to contribute and play major minutes for any team in the NBA? Yes. Yes I do. 

        You would be depressed to walk away with those two guys? Yes

        I thank God Sam Hinkie is in charge, because you’d be trading away all our future #1’s to turn us into the Utah Jazz. 

         

         

         

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        • #926020
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          Congratulations…

          Once again someone provides no insight on a topic, could explain why the youngest player and best defender in the 2014 Draft Class doesn’t get better? Or how Noel fails to improve significantly from now until his rookie deal is through? 

          Can you also explain why Stauskas/McDermott would be laughable compared to Lavine/Hood (who I like as well BTW) ?

          I’M ALSO SURE I SAID I WOULDN’T MIND SEEING JULIUS RANDLE PICKED 4TH SO STFU AND GTFO!

           

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        • #925889
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          Congratulations…

          Once again someone provides no insight on a topic, could explain why the youngest player and best defender in the 2014 Draft Class doesn’t get better? Or how Noel fails to improve significantly from now until his rookie deal is through? 

          Can you also explain why Stauskas/McDermott would be laughable compared to Lavine/Hood (who I like as well BTW) ?

          I’M ALSO SURE I SAID I WOULDN’T MIND SEEING JULIUS RANDLE PICKED 4TH SO STFU AND GTFO!

           

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          • #926046
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            As a Lakers fan if you were willing to take 7 and Nash for 10 and 32 I might be able to get behind that.  Nash won’t hurt the 76ers cap room as I actually think with so many draft picks it might be hard for them to hit the salary floor.  He could help with that.  If the Lakers did have plans to make a big splash in free agency I wouldn’t be mad at this at all.

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          • #925916
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            As a Lakers fan if you were willing to take 7 and Nash for 10 and 32 I might be able to get behind that.  Nash won’t hurt the 76ers cap room as I actually think with so many draft picks it might be hard for them to hit the salary floor.  He could help with that.  If the Lakers did have plans to make a big splash in free agency I wouldn’t be mad at this at all.

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            • #926056
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              I’d want to keep the 32nd pick to be fair with you

              So what about 10, 39 and 47 for Nash and 7???

              Is the 32nd pick really worth not clearing 10 million off the books?

              Is there any one else willing to take on Nash’s contract and give up any thing better than the 10th pick in exchange? 

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            • #925926
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              I’d want to keep the 32nd pick to be fair with you

              So what about 10, 39 and 47 for Nash and 7???

              Is the 32nd pick really worth not clearing 10 million off the books?

              Is there any one else willing to take on Nash’s contract and give up any thing better than the 10th pick in exchange? 

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              • #925956
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                honestly, i think if the lakers want the 32nd because more potential 1st round talent would slide at that spot over 39th pick, then i can see them being adamant on insisting. i can even see them just holding onto nash and his expiring deal as well as the 7th pick which would hold better available talent than the 10th. 

                i mean, from what i understand on the deal is that philly would be willing to move up 3 spots because there would be a player likely to be available at 7 that wouldnt be at 10 anymore. well, if the lakers wanted the 32nd, it would likely be the same where a player at 32 could be available that might not be available at 39 anymore. 

                at the end of the day, the second round pick would be a good thing to have but the lakers would still go on and build their team more on free agency than they would in the draft. 

                 

                 

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              • #926087
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                honestly, i think if the lakers want the 32nd because more potential 1st round talent would slide at that spot over 39th pick, then i can see them being adamant on insisting. i can even see them just holding onto nash and his expiring deal as well as the 7th pick which would hold better available talent than the 10th. 

                i mean, from what i understand on the deal is that philly would be willing to move up 3 spots because there would be a player likely to be available at 7 that wouldnt be at 10 anymore. well, if the lakers wanted the 32nd, it would likely be the same where a player at 32 could be available that might not be available at 39 anymore. 

                at the end of the day, the second round pick would be a good thing to have but the lakers would still go on and build their team more on free agency than they would in the draft. 

                 

                 

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              • #926248
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                Oh my bad, I thought the original post said 32.  I would most certainly do it for the 39th too.  The difference between 32 and 39 isn’t enough for it to be a deal breaker.  I could probably get behind this deal no problem.

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              • #926379
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                Oh my bad, I thought the original post said 32.  I would most certainly do it for the 39th too.  The difference between 32 and 39 isn’t enough for it to be a deal breaker.  I could probably get behind this deal no problem.

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  • #926018
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    MisterMorden
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     I’d rather take Vonleh at 4 than Gordon. 

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  • #925887
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    MisterMorden
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     I’d rather take Vonleh at 4 than Gordon. 

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  • #926081
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     Jefferson and Williams are free agents, but don’t let the facts get in your way. Also, if the Jazz trade out of the draft,  I will wear a Laker Jersey for a week. The Jazz  may trade up, most likely, but doubtful they trade down. 

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  • #925950
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     Jefferson and Williams are free agents, but don’t let the facts get in your way. Also, if the Jazz trade out of the draft,  I will wear a Laker Jersey for a week. The Jazz  may trade up, most likely, but doubtful they trade down. 

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    • #925958
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       I was going to mention that the Jazz won’t ever talk about Jefferson and Williams again, they are out of there and now the Jazz have a huge amount of salary cap space.

      Instead of trading away bad contracts, the Jazz may actually trade for some again to get draft picks or to move up.

      The Jazz might have more than half the cap to use on new players, not that LeBron or Carmelo are probably what they will get but they can afford one of them and nearly both.

      I am guessing trading down is not what the Jazz want, and they did trade up to get Deron Williams so I think they will put up a huge offer to get a top 2 pick and Jabari.

       

       

       

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    • #926088
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       I was going to mention that the Jazz won’t ever talk about Jefferson and Williams again, they are out of there and now the Jazz have a huge amount of salary cap space.

      Instead of trading away bad contracts, the Jazz may actually trade for some again to get draft picks or to move up.

      The Jazz might have more than half the cap to use on new players, not that LeBron or Carmelo are probably what they will get but they can afford one of them and nearly both.

      I am guessing trading down is not what the Jazz want, and they did trade up to get Deron Williams so I think they will put up a huge offer to get a top 2 pick and Jabari.

       

       

       

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  • #925989
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    Neggedpastor

    clean187 is to funny lol hes right some tho college shooters rarely translate so will doug and nik have huge impacts in their primes.

    the sixers real best asset is sucking they don’t give up any future first rounders unless their in playoff contention.

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    • #926015
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      Clean187
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      The guy that started this topic has anger issues. 

      Yes, I think it’s a gamble to take two shooters from this draft and put them in the starting lineup. I am concerned about defense. I am concerned only one of the two pans out. 

      I also think Noel & Gordon will obviously improve some, but how much? No matter what, still a liability together, offensively, which worries me. I like Gordon, but I hate him paired with Noel. 

      I would also hate coming out of the draft with Gordon as the best player we got, and somehow to boot, we also managed to trade away a future first for our haul. 

      Wasn’t trying to be a dick but dude was all Bane-like "How can you question me???" when I didn’t agree with him. 

       

       

       

       

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    • #926145
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      Clean187
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      The guy that started this topic has anger issues. 

      Yes, I think it’s a gamble to take two shooters from this draft and put them in the starting lineup. I am concerned about defense. I am concerned only one of the two pans out. 

      I also think Noel & Gordon will obviously improve some, but how much? No matter what, still a liability together, offensively, which worries me. I like Gordon, but I hate him paired with Noel. 

      I would also hate coming out of the draft with Gordon as the best player we got, and somehow to boot, we also managed to trade away a future first for our haul. 

      Wasn’t trying to be a dick but dude was all Bane-like "How can you question me???" when I didn’t agree with him. 

       

       

       

       

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  • #926119
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    Neggedpastor

    clean187 is to funny lol hes right some tho college shooters rarely translate so will doug and nik have huge impacts in their primes.

    the sixers real best asset is sucking they don’t give up any future first rounders unless their in playoff contention.

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  • #925997
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    TooNice4TV
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     The sixers don’t need to waste more assets. They already have two lottery picks. 

    Establish a system and go from there. It’s really the simple way to start a foundation of a young team. (Raptors / Suns)

     

     

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  • #926127
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     The sixers don’t need to waste more assets. They already have two lottery picks. 

    Establish a system and go from there. It’s really the simple way to start a foundation of a young team. (Raptors / Suns)

     

     

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  • #926029
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    TheTruth86
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    No.

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  • #926159
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    TheTruth86
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    No.

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  • #926245
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     The Jazz have no bad contracts, so they certainly aren’t looking to offload one.  And as someone else pointed out, Williams and Jefferson are unrestricted free agents, and they won’t be looking to trade down in the draft.  They desperately want to trade up.

    Are you getting your information off of the ESPN trade machine or something?  The years left listed on contracts there will always be off this time of year.   1 year left actually means 0 at this point.

     

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  • #926114
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     The Jazz have no bad contracts, so they certainly aren’t looking to offload one.  And as someone else pointed out, Williams and Jefferson are unrestricted free agents, and they won’t be looking to trade down in the draft.  They desperately want to trade up.

    Are you getting your information off of the ESPN trade machine or something?  The years left listed on contracts there will always be off this time of year.   1 year left actually means 0 at this point.

     

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  • #926228
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    JNixon
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    No, they shouldn’t trade up to get Aaron Gordon.

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  • #926359
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    JNixon
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    No, they shouldn’t trade up to get Aaron Gordon.

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  • #926250
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    Grandmama
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    Absolutely not.

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    Grandmama
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    Absolutely not.

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