separation of stars and super stars

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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 7:12am #21269

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Watching this USA squad and comparing them to 2008 squad.
I can really see the difference between the squad with Kobe, Bron, Wade, Melo, Paul, D-Will.
Compared to this young squad.
The 08 team could kill you in the half court because they moved the ball way better.
They seem to have a better understanding of the fundamentals of teams basketball on both ends of the floor.
Even Melo the whom most people taught would be a problem because of his way of play, he played good D and moved the ball well.
Now I know they are older and more experienced and that plays a big part. yes…
And they had more time to play with each other.
But look deeper and you will see that they also have a better grasp of the basics of the game and that makes them better than these young guys.
These young guys have the talent but until they master the basics and fundamentals they will not be super stars.
What do you guys think separates the stars from super stars in the NBA?
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 7:58am #393021

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fans. Fans turn stars into superstars. u can be a really great player but if no one follows you u wont get treated as such. look at danny granger. really good player but he has no support. Alot of guys are like this. they are on the verge of superstardom but cant get over that final hump. the fans. U cant name 1 superstar who doesnt have fans.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 7:58am #393042

IknoBall12
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fans. Fans turn stars into superstars. u can be a really great player but if no one follows you u wont get treated as such. look at danny granger. really good player but he has no support. Alot of guys are like this. they are on the verge of superstardom but cant get over that final hump. the fans. U cant name 1 superstar who doesnt have fans.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 8:22am #393031

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Stars are guys like kevin martin, tony parker, richard jefferson back in his prime etc. They are guys that can get you 15-20 a night and are probably 2nd option players at best that can help you throughout the course of a game but when it comes to crunch time, these guys are able to be denied the ball, or just arent able to deliver the big shot consistently. Kevin martin has hit some big shots, so has tony parker but they arent who you consistently expect to get it done in crunch time. Superstars are guys like dwayne wade, kobe bryant, tyreke evans, guys you give the ball in the end of games and get you the win, whether they drive and kick to an open guy because of being doubled or whether they hit the game winner etc. Superstars demand double teams and the best super stars still convert, regardless of the level of resistance. This is my definition of superstars in basketball terms, whereas in terms of fans, it is largely due to how many fans players have
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 8:22am #393052

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Stars are guys like kevin martin, tony parker, richard jefferson back in his prime etc. They are guys that can get you 15-20 a night and are probably 2nd option players at best that can help you throughout the course of a game but when it comes to crunch time, these guys are able to be denied the ball, or just arent able to deliver the big shot consistently. Kevin martin has hit some big shots, so has tony parker but they arent who you consistently expect to get it done in crunch time. Superstars are guys like dwayne wade, kobe bryant, tyreke evans, guys you give the ball in the end of games and get you the win, whether they drive and kick to an open guy because of being doubled or whether they hit the game winner etc. Superstars demand double teams and the best super stars still convert, regardless of the level of resistance. This is my definition of superstars in basketball terms, whereas in terms of fans, it is largely due to how many fans players have
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 8:24am #393033

IndianaBasketball
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Did you just post Tyreke Evans was a superstar???
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 8:24am #393054

IndianaBasketball
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Did you just post Tyreke Evans was a superstar???
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 8:42am #393041

round mound
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But he still has a long way to go to get there.
I agree that “super stars” are first option guys. There aren’t very many. There are a number of teams that have a “star” leading the way (Brandon Roy, Dirk Nowitzki, Joe Johnson, etc…) and these teams probably won’t win titles. In this day and age, you need a “super star” (Duncan, Bryant, etc…) to win a championship, with guys like a Roy or Nowitzki or Gasol being the “second” best player on the team. I’m really not sure how that Detroit team won a title earlier this decade, but there is always an exception to every rule.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 8:42am #393062

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But he still has a long way to go to get there.
I agree that “super stars” are first option guys. There aren’t very many. There are a number of teams that have a “star” leading the way (Brandon Roy, Dirk Nowitzki, Joe Johnson, etc…) and these teams probably won’t win titles. In this day and age, you need a “super star” (Duncan, Bryant, etc…) to win a championship, with guys like a Roy or Nowitzki or Gasol being the “second” best player on the team. I’m really not sure how that Detroit team won a title earlier this decade, but there is always an exception to every rule.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 8:45am #393045

sacphil_08
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He has superstar ability… He closed out multiple games for the kings last year and the defense was draped on him but he still delivered. I guess i worded that wrong
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 8:45am #393066

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He has superstar ability… He closed out multiple games for the kings last year and the defense was draped on him but he still delivered. I guess i worded that wrong
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 9:01am #393055

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Detroit won in 2004 because chauncey billups and rip hamilton could carry the scoring load along with rasheed wallace and his ability to stretch the defense, and they played as great of defense as any team has in the past decade. Its not football but defense wins championships
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 9:01am #393076

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Detroit won in 2004 because chauncey billups and rip hamilton could carry the scoring load along with rasheed wallace and his ability to stretch the defense, and they played as great of defense as any team has in the past decade. Its not football but defense wins championships
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 10:37am #393127

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“There are a number of teams that have a “star” leading the way (Brandon Roy, Dirk Nowitzki, Joe Johnson, etc…) and these teams probably won’t win titles. In this day and age, you need a “super star” (Duncan, Bryant, etc…) to win a championship, with guys like a Roy or Nowitzki or Gasol being the “second” best player on the team. I’m really not sure how that Detroit team won a title earlier this decade, but there is always an exception to every rule.”
Dirk Nowitzki is a superstar and a future HOFer… When you have a superstar management has to build around that player for them to succeed, no player can win a championship on their own.. Dont underestimate the importance of a “ALL STAR” second option and defensive minded role players…
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 10:37am #393144

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“There are a number of teams that have a “star” leading the way (Brandon Roy, Dirk Nowitzki, Joe Johnson, etc…) and these teams probably won’t win titles. In this day and age, you need a “super star” (Duncan, Bryant, etc…) to win a championship, with guys like a Roy or Nowitzki or Gasol being the “second” best player on the team. I’m really not sure how that Detroit team won a title earlier this decade, but there is always an exception to every rule.”
Dirk Nowitzki is a superstar and a future HOFer… When you have a superstar management has to build around that player for them to succeed, no player can win a championship on their own.. Dont underestimate the importance of a “ALL STAR” second option and defensive minded role players…
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 12:04pm #393243

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Danny Granger isn’t a superstar because he isn’t that great off the bounce. He can create for himself a little bit but mostly he is a jump shooter and he can’t create for his team at all. If he was a vialbe 1st option the pacers wouldn’t be so bad.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 12:04pm #393265

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Danny Granger isn’t a superstar because he isn’t that great off the bounce. He can create for himself a little bit but mostly he is a jump shooter and he can’t create for his team at all. If he was a vialbe 1st option the pacers wouldn’t be so bad.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:45pm #393330

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kevin durant is the only true proven superstar on this team I would like to put d rose there but he has to show me what he is going to do this upcoming season..its funny how the little things separate you from a star to a super star these guys have all the talent but its the basic things like when to shoot, when to pass, ball movement, dont stand around when you dont have the ball etc.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:45pm #393348

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kevin durant is the only true proven superstar on this team I would like to put d rose there but he has to show me what he is going to do this upcoming season..its funny how the little things separate you from a star to a super star these guys have all the talent but its the basic things like when to shoot, when to pass, ball movement, dont stand around when you dont have the ball etc.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:51pm #393334

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He’s had GOOD ENOUGH supporting casts over the years, that if he was a “super star” he would have won at least one ring. D-Wade is a super star, and Dirk chocked when he went up against his Miami team in the playoffs. There is no way you can justify the Mavericks meltdown in the finals, and say that Dirk deserves super star status. Besides, you don’t need to be a super star to be in the Hall of Fame.
Couldn’t disagree more.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:51pm #393352

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He’s had GOOD ENOUGH supporting casts over the years, that if he was a “super star” he would have won at least one ring. D-Wade is a super star, and Dirk chocked when he went up against his Miami team in the playoffs. There is no way you can justify the Mavericks meltdown in the finals, and say that Dirk deserves super star status. Besides, you don’t need to be a super star to be in the Hall of Fame.
Couldn’t disagree more.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:55pm #393338

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Because all the egos on that Lakers “super star” team (Bryant, O’Neal, Malone, Payton) couldn’t get along…and the Mailman was hurt in the Finals. Detroit played like a unit, helped one another, and deserved to win. It will be interesting to see if this new Miami “super team” succumbs to the same fate.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:55pm #393356

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Because all the egos on that Lakers “super star” team (Bryant, O’Neal, Malone, Payton) couldn’t get along…and the Mailman was hurt in the Finals. Detroit played like a unit, helped one another, and deserved to win. It will be interesting to see if this new Miami “super team” succumbs to the same fate.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:55pm #393340

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he’s a superstar!!!!! possibly the most unique offensive weapon to ever play the game….and he has an MVP…..
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 1:55pm #393358

midwestbbscout
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he’s a superstar!!!!! possibly the most unique offensive weapon to ever play the game….and he has an MVP…..
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 2:09pm #393365

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Who did Dirk have as a second option during his career that was legit??? Aganist MIA, the Mavs just lost to a better TEAM.. Wade just shined more than Dirk.. Josh Howard isnt a SECOND option on a CHAMPIONSHIP team… Dirk carried that Mavricks squad and they lost to a BETTER TEAM… If you are a top 10 player in the league you are a superstar (meaning you are the cream of the crop)…
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 2:09pm #393382

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Who did Dirk have as a second option during his career that was legit??? Aganist MIA, the Mavs just lost to a better TEAM.. Wade just shined more than Dirk.. Josh Howard isnt a SECOND option on a CHAMPIONSHIP team… Dirk carried that Mavricks squad and they lost to a BETTER TEAM… If you are a top 10 player in the league you are a superstar (meaning you are the cream of the crop)…
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 3:55pm #393421

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He has no inside game, doesn’t defend well for a guy his size, should be a better rebounder, and always chokes in the playoffs. The only way Dirk will ever win a title is if he’s a second option on a great team…like Gasol with Kobe on the Lakers. People confuse offensive production with greatness. I don’t consider Dominique Wilkins a super star for the same reason. Same with Tracy McGrady, or Vince Carter…even when they were in their prime. The game is about more then stats, and how many games your team wins during the regular season. He didn’t deserve his MVP in my mind.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 3:55pm #393438

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He has no inside game, doesn’t defend well for a guy his size, should be a better rebounder, and always chokes in the playoffs. The only way Dirk will ever win a title is if he’s a second option on a great team…like Gasol with Kobe on the Lakers. People confuse offensive production with greatness. I don’t consider Dominique Wilkins a super star for the same reason. Same with Tracy McGrady, or Vince Carter…even when they were in their prime. The game is about more then stats, and how many games your team wins during the regular season. He didn’t deserve his MVP in my mind.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 4:12pm #393429

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Star and superstars are defined by alot of things but most importantly attitude. Superstars are superstars because they are leaders on and off the court they will there team to victory make teamates better and answer the call when the time is right think about it there are only really 3 legit superstars in the league right now regardless of what fans say…
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Duncan
Stats dont define a superstar wins and championships do
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 4:12pm #393446

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Star and superstars are defined by alot of things but most importantly attitude. Superstars are superstars because they are leaders on and off the court they will there team to victory make teamates better and answer the call when the time is right think about it there are only really 3 legit superstars in the league right now regardless of what fans say…
1. Kobe
2. Wade
3. Duncan
Stats dont define a superstar wins and championships do
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 4:38pm #393441

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“always chokes in the playoffs” – Thats false, Dirk has a career average of 25 ppg and 11 rebs in the playoffs.. Dude always steps it up in the playoffs (his playoff numbers are better than is regular season numbers for his career)… He has NEVER had a legit second option and has always been the focal point for opposing teams.. If you watch Dirk, he has always stepped his game up, but sometimes a TEAM is better than ONE PLAYER… I think revolutionzing the PF position is considered greatness.. Dirk is widely recgonized as the GREATESS SHOOTING BIG MAN EVER…
If Nique (was a BEAST against the Celtics in 88), Vince Carter (greatest dunker of all time), and Tracy McGrady (carried a WEAK ass Magic team) in thier primes werent SUPERSTARS, then whats a superstar??? Only 12 franchises have enjoyed winning championships over the last 30 years and I believe that for the most part every SUPERSTAR needs atleast another HALL OF FAME type player and a solid defensive role players to win a CHAMPIONSHIP.. For all of Kobes greatness (second greatest SG ever), he needed those things to win a championship..
Question: What does it take to be a NBA superstar???
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 4:38pm #393458

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“always chokes in the playoffs” – Thats false, Dirk has a career average of 25 ppg and 11 rebs in the playoffs.. Dude always steps it up in the playoffs (his playoff numbers are better than is regular season numbers for his career)… He has NEVER had a legit second option and has always been the focal point for opposing teams.. If you watch Dirk, he has always stepped his game up, but sometimes a TEAM is better than ONE PLAYER… I think revolutionzing the PF position is considered greatness.. Dirk is widely recgonized as the GREATESS SHOOTING BIG MAN EVER…
If Nique (was a BEAST against the Celtics in 88), Vince Carter (greatest dunker of all time), and Tracy McGrady (carried a WEAK ass Magic team) in thier primes werent SUPERSTARS, then whats a superstar??? Only 12 franchises have enjoyed winning championships over the last 30 years and I believe that for the most part every SUPERSTAR needs atleast another HALL OF FAME type player and a solid defensive role players to win a CHAMPIONSHIP.. For all of Kobes greatness (second greatest SG ever), he needed those things to win a championship..
Question: What does it take to be a NBA superstar???
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 4:43pm #393443

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IMO a superstar is a player that brings it and performs at an ALL NBA LEVEL.. To win a championship it takes more than a superstar.. Barkely, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, Lebron, Reggie Miller are all SUPERSTARS that have never won a championships..
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 4:43pm #393460

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IMO a superstar is a player that brings it and performs at an ALL NBA LEVEL.. To win a championship it takes more than a superstar.. Barkely, Stockton, Malone, Ewing, Lebron, Reggie Miller are all SUPERSTARS that have never won a championships..
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 5:40pm #393487

Malik-Universal
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dirk is a obvs. a superstar…. soft or not… guy has proven himself…. and joe johnson isnt a superstar
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 5:40pm #393504

Malik-Universal
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dirk is a obvs. a superstar…. soft or not… guy has proven himself…. and joe johnson isnt a superstar
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 5:40pm #393483

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At least one…mandatory. I agree with Wiz Kid. Bryant, Wade, and Duncan are the only current players I consider super stars. Well…and of course Shaq…when he was in his prime ( the big fella really needs to retire). I’m thinking Garnett might belong on that short list…not sure. He’s obviously past his prime now, with his recent injuries, and age, but he did get a ring.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 5:40pm #393500

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At least one…mandatory. I agree with Wiz Kid. Bryant, Wade, and Duncan are the only current players I consider super stars. Well…and of course Shaq…when he was in his prime ( the big fella really needs to retire). I’m thinking Garnett might belong on that short list…not sure. He’s obviously past his prime now, with his recent injuries, and age, but he did get a ring.
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 5:44pm #393493

Im Your Father
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Wade is a superstar, but Lebron isn’t?
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Posted on: Fri, 09/03/2010 - 5:44pm #393511

Im Your Father
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Wade is a superstar, but Lebron isn’t?
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 4:44am #393668

stanford hoops
Round mound doesn’t know what he’s talking bout. You don’t have to win a title to be a superstar. Karl Malone was a superstar as well as Barkley. Neither won a title Nash is a superstar as well as dwill and cp3 same with Dwight Howard and Dirk
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 4:44am #393688

stanford hoops
Round mound doesn’t know what he’s talking bout. You don’t have to win a title to be a superstar. Karl Malone was a superstar as well as Barkley. Neither won a title Nash is a superstar as well as dwill and cp3 same with Dwight Howard and Dirk
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:16pm #394154

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And consider yourself a super star if you didn’t win a single championship? An all-star? Sure. Even a Hall of Fame inductee…sure. LeBron is a stat guy…pure and simple. Stats don’t make super stars…championships do. If LeBron gets a ring, then I would consider bumping him up to the elite level. So far all he is brought is disappointment to the fans of Cleveland (not to mention scorn). The way he left the Cavs…and how he conducted his business this summer…what a dog. I’ve lost all respect for LeBron.
You might as well just throw the super star tag on half the league if your going to go down that road. The tag of “super star” would mean nothing then. Just some stat guy who fell short of team glory.
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:16pm #394177

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And consider yourself a super star if you didn’t win a single championship? An all-star? Sure. Even a Hall of Fame inductee…sure. LeBron is a stat guy…pure and simple. Stats don’t make super stars…championships do. If LeBron gets a ring, then I would consider bumping him up to the elite level. So far all he is brought is disappointment to the fans of Cleveland (not to mention scorn). The way he left the Cavs…and how he conducted his business this summer…what a dog. I’ve lost all respect for LeBron.
You might as well just throw the super star tag on half the league if your going to go down that road. The tag of “super star” would mean nothing then. Just some stat guy who fell short of team glory.
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:34pm #394174

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Lebron is considered one of the most gifted players in the history of basketball and he ISNT a superstar…So using your logic Jordan wasnt a superstar until he won a championship even though he was killing the league for 7 seasons..
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:34pm #394197

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Lebron is considered one of the most gifted players in the history of basketball and he ISNT a superstar…So using your logic Jordan wasnt a superstar until he won a championship even though he was killing the league for 7 seasons..
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:44pm #394192

Im Your Father
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Dwayne Wade IS a superstar. But he is no longer the best player on the Heat. So the Miami Heat after signing James and Bosh now still only have one superstar, even though he is no longer the best player on the team.
It is impossible to make a legitimant argument for Lebron not being a superstar.
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:44pm #394216

Im Your Father
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Dwayne Wade IS a superstar. But he is no longer the best player on the Heat. So the Miami Heat after signing James and Bosh now still only have one superstar, even though he is no longer the best player on the team.
It is impossible to make a legitimant argument for Lebron not being a superstar.
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:45pm #394194

Mkadoza
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Superstars are the elite of the elite. My list of superstars TODAY, in no particular order are Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Durant, Howard, Paul, Williams, Anthony, Nash, Nowitzki, Pau… Duncan is right on the cusp… so is Bosh… Amare has a chance to prove he’s one, but I doubt it… Rose could get there. Evans could get there.
Pau was a question mark to me because he didnt dominant early in his career (though he was a star on a piss poor team) and he’s not flashy. But damn is he hard to stop. Mid range, post moves, counters, off the ball movement, passing, rebounding, size, IQ… all of them are spectacular for a bigman. And his agility, defense, quickness are all well above average for a big. He is every bit as responcible for the Lakers Championships as Kobe was. They are both irreplacable components to that team. Pau Gasol in international competion looks like the best player in the world. He’s a Euro Duncan if there ever was one.
Former superstars of note include, Kidd, Carter, McGrady, Shaq (dur), Garnett, Pierce, maybe Allen in his prime, and for my own selfish reasons, Elton Brand for one glorious season.
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:45pm #394218

Mkadoza
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Superstars are the elite of the elite. My list of superstars TODAY, in no particular order are Kobe, Lebron, Wade, Durant, Howard, Paul, Williams, Anthony, Nash, Nowitzki, Pau… Duncan is right on the cusp… so is Bosh… Amare has a chance to prove he’s one, but I doubt it… Rose could get there. Evans could get there.
Pau was a question mark to me because he didnt dominant early in his career (though he was a star on a piss poor team) and he’s not flashy. But damn is he hard to stop. Mid range, post moves, counters, off the ball movement, passing, rebounding, size, IQ… all of them are spectacular for a bigman. And his agility, defense, quickness are all well above average for a big. He is every bit as responcible for the Lakers Championships as Kobe was. They are both irreplacable components to that team. Pau Gasol in international competion looks like the best player in the world. He’s a Euro Duncan if there ever was one.
Former superstars of note include, Kidd, Carter, McGrady, Shaq (dur), Garnett, Pierce, maybe Allen in his prime, and for my own selfish reasons, Elton Brand for one glorious season.
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:45pm #394196

stanford hoops
Yea his logic is flawed. But realize this is just HIS opinion, like someone saying Kobe is overrated
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:45pm #394220

stanford hoops
Yea his logic is flawed. But realize this is just HIS opinion, like someone saying Kobe is overrated
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:58pm #394209

Mkadoza
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Lol Stanford set me straight before I even ranted…
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:58pm #394234

Mkadoza
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Lol Stanford set me straight before I even ranted…
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:59pm #394205

Mkadoza
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See round mound, your logic shows, to me, one of the biggest fallacies held by many fans. Its almost like if you removed the playoff, you’d have no idea how to rank players. Like the performance of every second of every game by every player who touches the hardwood doesnt matter. By your logic every player who’s won a championship should be elite and everyone else is a scrub. By your logic, Garnetts better at 32 in Boston than in
“Half the league” isnt half as good as Lebron. Or Kobe. Or Wade. They are the nightmares of the league. They are the players who enter this mode where the game is over because is X player is doing work. And its not a flash in the pan. Its almost every night they put up a stars numbers, and on those special nights, they put up 60 points, or 30 and 20, or 30-10 and 15, or a triple double of point rebounds and blocks. Those games where no one on either team can do nothing but go with the flow. And if Lebron James isnt that… well damn. i must not know how to play basketball. Because to my apparently lyin’ eyes, that man is pretty much unstoppable.
Sorry, I just hate when people act like the regular season is meaningless to basketball skill. I disagree, but I respect your opinion. I just really disagree… lol
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Posted on: Sat, 09/04/2010 - 2:59pm #394230

Mkadoza
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See round mound, your logic shows, to me, one of the biggest fallacies held by many fans. Its almost like if you removed the playoff, you’d have no idea how to rank players. Like the performance of every second of every game by every player who touches the hardwood doesnt matter. By your logic every player who’s won a championship should be elite and everyone else is a scrub. By your logic, Garnetts better at 32 in Boston than in
“Half the league” isnt half as good as Lebron. Or Kobe. Or Wade. They are the nightmares of the league. They are the players who enter this mode where the game is over because is X player is doing work. And its not a flash in the pan. Its almost every night they put up a stars numbers, and on those special nights, they put up 60 points, or 30 and 20, or 30-10 and 15, or a triple double of point rebounds and blocks. Those games where no one on either team can do nothing but go with the flow. And if Lebron James isnt that… well damn. i must not know how to play basketball. Because to my apparently lyin’ eyes, that man is pretty much unstoppable.
Sorry, I just hate when people act like the regular season is meaningless to basketball skill. I disagree, but I respect your opinion. I just really disagree… lol
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