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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Now I’m going to start with an overture on the state of the NBA and this summers much hyped Free Agency to remember…The Media coverage will intensify over the next few days for whats been called the “Summer of Lebron”…A title seemly perfect to be followed by a film Directed by Spike Lee…guest starring a who’s who in the Holly Wood Community..
    For 2 years the over tones of a mass exodus of a free agents has filled the air with a sense of mystery…For some teams and fan bases…The Talk and Hope have come before the actual games itself…I ask…when the Free Agent buzz goes away…and you realize you’ve been poisoning yourself with the worst drug I fan can take…Addicted to the High of the unknown…the great beyond…The Big “What If”…this summer has been build up to be the landscape changing summer of summers…For years teams have wrecked their seasons and destroyed any resemblance of sanity for a shot at catching lightning in A bottle…and hooking The Big Fish Himself…And all the while no one realizes the Big name at the start of all this is the Biggest Sham Superstar there is…Mr.Un Clutch …Mr. High Light…The self proclaimed “King” of the NBA…While every one’s train wreck their franchises for a closer view of their King’s Arse…Now while the blogs and forums are all buzzing on the arrival of the King…Some one has to be the bringer of bad news….

    Listen Closely…This means you David Stern and President O…The Punch as been Spiked…The Bats are Corked…and the Fist are Taped Twice…This whole free agent bonanza has been carefully planned out and orchestrated to perfection…With the Center piece being the Most dope up horse in the Darby…I’m not alone in these thoughts…I’m just one of the only living souls brave enough to say it…Here goes the Brass Balled truth..

    Test Lebron James today and he’ll fail a drug test…Ask the NBA’s commish if their in collusion in the NBA hooked up to a lie detector and he’ll fail…Moves have been made to allow the Lebron’s of the world to be in place to become Mega Stars and Cash Cows…
    The leagues offices clearly looked the other way when The Cavs/Wizards trade involving Big Z( which was illegal)…Big Z gets brought out like Nothing and returns to The Cavs for a run at the Finals…The NBA has long wanted a Kobe/Lebron finals…The Nike Corporation basiclly waved the propaganda in our faces for two years…

    Now on the Eve of Free Agency…And all the Rumors of Lebron going to Chicago for a new dynasty I lay out the Biggest Conspiracy Theory ever….

    Lebron to the Bulls has been the only option from day one…All the NY overtures and hype was the diversion..

    The Rose Lottery Win was pre determined …They Knew all along they’d dump Hinrich on some patsy…and When they complete their mission of a lopsided Sign and trade involving the horribly over paid Luol Deng for someone’s superstar…We’ll have a new Mega Corporation in Chicago…Research the Bulls odds in that Lottery…Factor in the Wizards taking the grossly overpaid Hinrich basically clearing the way for 2 stars in Chicago..Factor in the President himself will be rooting for this monstrosity…A Team that has been in the making for the last 3 years…

    Now that I’ve dropped that little bit of left field knowledge…I’l leave you to the mindless…John Wall Jersey Number Threads…

    Quote The ScareCrow….Stop drinking the Kool Aid…….

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  • #342974
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    Michael.S.
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    Are you trying to make us all dumber? Because if you are you are doing a very poor job, My 10 yr old sister could tell that there is something wrong inside your head if she read this crap.

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    OrangeJuiceJones
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  • #342979
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Stop Drinking the Kool Aid….

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  • #342980
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    Leftovers16
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    When I see a post that long first thing that comes to mind is I don’t wanna read and second dang u must really have no life to type all that junk for us to read…

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  • #342983
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    Michael.S.
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    At least he is amusing.

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  • #342984
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    esperanzafleet69
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    scarecrow… u remind me of a mix between dale gribble and simple jack…

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  • #342985
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Seriously…why are you clicking on to a page with words..if you will not take the time to read them…The Scare Crow suggest you go see The great and Powerful John Wall and ask him for a brain…

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  • #342986
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Hey I’m only a few more minuses away from -999…You’ll be the ones summoning the Beast….

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  • #342988
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    OhCanada-
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    wtf did u do i was all amped up on giving you -1000

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  • #342990
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    Tyreke Johnson
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    This is worse then Dhamp which most of the old users probably remember.

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  • #342991
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Being Yourself?

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    • #342992
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      knicks82
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      Its all so clear now..thanks scarcrow. Q_Q

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  • #342993
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    nateoak10
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    the world may never know

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  • #342995
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    You’ll find out this isn’t Wonderland…

    research…The Illuminati and these 3 things

    1.Odds of the Bulls winning the lottery and the two very different roads the top two guys are taking…
    Rose is the Next great Point Guard…Beasley loses his shyt ala Dave Chappelle and now is an out cast of the NBa…
    2.Odds someone takes on Hinrich’s massive deal on the Eve of Free Agency…
    3.Then Look up Lebron’s boy “Jay Z Free Mason” on You Tube…
    In the End ask yourself… What team does the President root for…How much do the puppet masters have to gain this summer…And who’s pulling your strings….

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  • #342996
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    DanEboy
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    At least Scarecrow brings something to the table here…most of the threads posted here ARE mindless and without thought.

    I give him props for putting thought behind his posts…even if they are only his thoughts.

    He sparks debates and keeps this forum interesting unlike a lot of people on here.

    Take my points…I have enough….I don’t care.

    Tell me you guys don’t immediately click his threads anytime you see his name come up. His plan is working.

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  • #342998
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    as long as it is thought provoking…You can say what you want …Look at the Corporations that are profiting most off this summer’s impending free agency..Espn..Cbs..yahoosports…draftnet…etc…etc…

    It’s another chance to see the beast at work…just follow the white Rabbit Alice…The hole is dark and cold and those that see the real world can’t turn away when the masses just drink the Kool Aid and go with the plan…I’m too am an engine of Chaos and the system must be broken before someone attempts to fix it…

    I’ve got the tools to tear this bitch a new ass hole…who’s ready to take the blue pill now ???

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  • #343001
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Lebron James and The Illuminati…In a world that fights for power…where our own great country fought for Independence…Where all great countries fight for Independence…We have our only so called “King”…
    You realized we fought for that very taught…That One stood over all…In any sense of the word…Now we all force feed King James propaganda and no ones else’s stomach turns…My Friends…I’ve seem the ugly truth…been approached to follow the road unknown by the masses and tell you the Boogie Man Exists…and he’s rooting for Lebron James….

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    DanEboy
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    ^ This shit is pure epicness….

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  • #343005
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Not to sound like a douch…But I’m actually being published very soon…My graphic novel is going to change the way you read comics…It’s going to change the entire landscape of the Comic Book Industry…
    I’m just not a fool and refuse to sell the rights to the Beast…When you are given a Gift from the great Unknown and Know that the World needs the originality and talent you posses, you have to follow the dream to fruition…

    I spend free time(or naughty time as I like to call it)…giving you guys a different take on the universe…

    Not all is Basket Ball and Fairy Tales…

    Guys when you see me at a Comic Convention in the near and distant future…Please be kind and rewind…

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  • #343006
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    DanEboy
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    Scarecrow…I have said all along, I think you are a misunderstood genius, like Common said.

    Some people on here just don’t see it…..I get it

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  • #343008
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    bobforte
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    Im not really going to touch on your corporations discussion because its obvious thats whats going on but i have some basketball related problems. here are my questions to you sir, how was the big z trade illegal? He was waived waited the allotted amount of time and then resigned. Second your telling me if your making the decisions for the young wizards team, trying to refresh your franchise your not taking the 17th pick in the draft to take on hinrichs contract that only has two more years on it. The 17th pick has great oppurtunity for talent.

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  • #343016
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    brennenrund
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    Did David Stern know Obama was going to president to? Why would you even care about the NBA if you thought it was all conspiracy, I’m not trying to hate I’m just trying to say enjoy the game and don’t over think it, you’ll find that you’ll enjoy the NBA much more if you don’t think there is a LeBron, Stern, Obama, Rose, Bosh collusion. Just watch the games homie.

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  • #343018
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    Mr. 19134
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    This is better then a Dan Brown novel.

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  • #343021
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    McDunkin

    Scarecrow aka he who informed me pigs have 8 tits… your threads are like entering a basketball based matrix…I feel like im so close to understanding you completely sometimes but I just cant see the true meaning…and believe it or not people there is always a meaning deep within what he says…maybe if I could get my hands on some LSD and a few 76ers highlight tapes I could reach your level of genius…but until then I will be here…wishing that I had more range on my creative thinking jumper

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  • #343055
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    shaquille bro neal
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    if we form a petition can we remove scarecrow.

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  • #343071
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    McDunkin

    i dont think so…TLI isnt big on democracy

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  • #343081
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Really, this is not very. Yes, the President is a fan of Illinois/Chicago based franchises, but at the same time, did he also bring Michael Jordan to the Bulls? Did he make it so they could have an appealing big man to play with Joakim Noah? Did he make them trade Tyrus Thomas for LaMarcus Aldridge, a 4 guy who would be even more appealing for LeBron to join the team considering the match-up problems and skill that would be present (Also considering that right now signing a Chris Bosh does not seem like a sure thing)? Yes, the Derrick Rose thing did seem almost pre-ordained, as he was from Chicago, and did appear to look like an absolutely fantastic prospect, but LeBron nobody even talked about LeBron in Chicago. The other thing is, the Wizards were seen as a team with little legitimate chance of signing of a big name free agent, plus they took Josh Howard’s deal and they got a legit prospect out of the deal. Hinrich’s deal may be ridiculous, but draft day trades happen, and I have a feeling Obama was watching it, but not on the phones for either team. Also, ask yourself this, if your Illuminati conspiracy were true, than why would he not create his New World Order with Jigga Man? I mean, Jay-Z has zero ties to Chicago, other than his constant lyrical MJ references.

    The thing with conspiracy theories, and the idea of puppet masters pulling the strings, I think you should worry about things beyond creating basketball teams in marketable locations. The franchises that spend money will eventually make that work to create a good team. Owners that are thrifty will struggle. Their is a reason the Clippers have struggled in a major market, and I would have to say it is not due to the Lakers. Their is also a reason that the Spurs have rocked the house in the smallest market in Texas (which is still not that bad). While the Bulls had a miniscule chance of winning the lottery in 2008, and it appeared as though Rose would be their pick, Beasley was long thought to be the prize player. For a while, it seemed like they were neck and neck. Now, I will not say the Bulls are a cursed franchise, as they have the 3rd most championships in NBA history with the 6 won in the Michael Jordan era, but since Michael has left it is not like things have gone their way. I mean, until Derrick Rose, Kirk Hinrich was more than likely the leading scorer for their team after Mike’s retirement (in total points since say, 1999, it would not be surprising, yet pretty sad). They drafted a potential twin tower duo of Tyson Chandler and Eddy Curry only for both of them to fizzle out (Chandler was a draft day trade for Elton Brand, obviously co-conspired upon with Barack Obama). Also, do not forget that the Bulls had the second pick in the 2002 draft, can’t miss PG Jason (Jay) Williams. The dude would have been sure fire #1 the year before (MJ would definitely had not taken Kwame Brown over that guy), and he seemed like, I don’t know, Derrick Rose with a better jump shot (albeit not as athletic, but he had a title under his belt). Than, he comes into the league and has a flat out dissapointing rookie year, not even in contention for the ROY trophy that was seen as his to lose (finishing behind Amare Stoudemire, who at a time was thought to be a potential top 1-3 pick but somehow went 9, and even Yao Ming, who many thought would struggle mightily his rookie year). On top of that, Jay Williams loved motorcycles, and injures his leg that following off-season only to never play another NBA game and be a fairly wack ESPN commentator. So, surely the Bulls had to get lucky somewhere.

    Yes, everytime a team wins the lottery with odds under 10 percent (and the Bulls apparently snow balls chance in hell 1.7%), but hey, what is a lottery? It is a game of chance. If every team had the same odds, it would be 7.7%, and I think much more chance of conspiracy. But, once in a while, when you click on ESPN’s lottery scramble, a team comes up with number 1 that has even less of a chance than the Bulls. Not to mention, when the Bulls won the lottery, they had a 33-49 record. When the Blazers won their lottery in 2007, their record was 32-50. They had a 5.3% chance of winning the lottery. 3 times more than the Bulls for 1 fewer victories. People also claimed that was a conspiracy. Actually, I believe, EVERY LOTTERY HAS BEEN CLAIMED TO BE A CONSPIRACY. 2001, Wizards, MJ Comeback, conspiracy. 2002, Yao Ming, city with large enough market to please Chinese handlers/government, conspiracy. 2003, LeBron, TO CLEVELAND?, super conspiracy. The list goes on. 2004, Magic, get most dominant center to come out of HS ranks in years after losing Shaquille O’Neal. 2005, Milwaukee gets a chance at can’t miss solid 5 (solid, not superstar a la Chris Paul/Deron Williams). 2006, Colangelo meet Bargnani. Pasta fazule! So, every single one of those could be seen as a conspiracy. The thing is, if it is a conspiracy, than why has it done little to shake up the power structure of the league?

    From the inception of the lottery in 1985, the ultimate Stern envelope conspiracy in giving his hometown New York Knicks (any doubt Stern was a crazy Knick fan when he was a kid?) the next Bill Russell, Patrick Ewing, the lottery has been seen as a way to give teams great players. But, the NBA’s lottery system is different from all others in sports, in that it mixes it up with the top 3 picks (the MLB and NFL have the ability to tank and get top picks that way, and the NHL has that same ability, as their is only one team that wins their lottery with the maximum ability to move up 4 picks in the draft, and this year the worst team won the lottery and got to keep the first pick. Whoopee!), which ultimately gives teams on the brink hope that they can choose the elite prospects. But ultimately, the draft is sometimes as much of a gamble as the lottery. The Oklahoma City Thunder would have gladly taken Beasley at 2 in 2008, now I do not think they would trade Russell Westbrook even if offered Derrick Rose (not a trade rumor, and I would take Rose, but Westbrook had close to as good a season, and is right now a much better defender). So, say what you want to say about the Bulls being an Illuminati conspiracy and Stern being my puppet master, but I tend to think that this is more ridiculous than thought provoking. Chicago has a good hockey team, but little else. Sox, Cubs and Bears are still as cursed as ever (even after the Sox won the WS a few years ago). I think Barack Obama would like to keep his hand out of the NBA, as I believe he owns no interest in the Bulls, and is a fan of the game. I would think most fans at least hope that the NBA is free of conspiracy, even with signs pointing otherwise. The bottom line is, at the end of the day one team makes the most of their opportunities as opposed to another team. It is all percentages, which team gets the most rebounds, capitalizes off turnovers, makes their open shots and free throws. If LeBron winds up in Chicago, he will still need more of a team if he hopes to compete, and Washington taking Hinrich will not necessarily lead to him getting another star player, maybe just another marginal star that still leaves the Bulls with little depth in their front court.

    Now, with LeBron being a member of the Free Masonry or Illuminati, I indeed have seen the videos, noted the symbolism, seen the handshakes with Jay-Z and Alex Rodriguez. I even sent it to my friend, who is an avid believer in these organizations controlling interest. He is also an avid basher of LeBron James, so I thought he would love to see this and rag on him for being a member of his favorite conpiratorial organization. What I got, was what I had done, he laughed at it. The video is a joke. I note the symbolism, I note the signs, but I think that these “secret societies” over time has been full of in hip-hop terms “snitches.” These are people who find out the secret symbols of the free masonry, and perhaps, tell people not associated with the organization. These symbols, when given to a community, such as the hip-hop community which is fascinated by the people pulling the strings a la the Godfather/Scarface, anything involving power symbolism, money, power, respect, they eat this stuff up! So, Jay-Z starts throwing up all seeing eye symbols aka the ROC. They start making hand gestures and signs, they pretty much take it away and make it their own. Even if they didn’t, even if the symbolism was satan worship or some sympathy for the devil, who cares? Is LeBron throwing up the all seeing eye and the triple 6 going to make another person go out and start doing work for satan? Is LeBron James being controlled by higher powers and trying to brain wash us all? Bottom line, would LeBron James go to the point of being a member of said enterprises just so he could gain status amongst the greats of the game? I do not think any player would be happy with that, and at the end of the day, I think most basketball players realize that their is no such thing as a fake champion, they accept the final result (well, except for Doug Collins and the 1972 Olympics, get the fuck over it Doug, worse things happened in Munich). It may feel like a punch in the stomach, it may feel like you want to find excuses for what happened just to verify why you are the better person or the winner, but at the end of the day, you know what those are? Excuses. You can not go back and do it over. The team that won then will always be the winner, and you will not feel as good as they did when they actually won on that day, even if they did supposedly cheat.

    I know this post has gone on long enough, but I just wanted to maybe prove a point as to why someone calling people puppets and saying they are missing signs may be something even deeper. Maybe that person is a Philadelphia fan, someone who thinks his teams get conspired against and gets angry, hey, it is in that fan bases history to get really pissed off. But, little does this fan know, that the Philadelphia Warriors/76ers, drafted Wilt Chamberlain on a territorial pick. So, they did not even have to win a lottery, Wilt was not the first pick in the draft, and even though he played his college ball in Kansas of all places, he was from Philly, so they just said, “We get that guy.” So, conspiracy sometimes work out in Phillies favor too, as I believe the rule was done away with right after the most phenomenal basketball prospect at that time got to stay at home. I think Kevin Pritchards letter can teach us all something. I was not the biggest Pritchard fan, I did not believe he did everything right. I also did not believe he should have been fired, but I had heard rumblings through out the organization that he was not liked by more people than just Paul Allen and his cronies. But, I read his resignation letter today, and walked away very impressed. It was pure class and what he wrote is I believe an example of the way basketball works. In the end, it is a game and a business, and you do not take things personally. Another phrase that the hip-hop community relishes upon, and I think maybe something to think about when going off about who is pulling the strings.

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  • #343082
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    billyk
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    Beware of the Pale White Horse……

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    mikeyvthedon
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    Quote the Scarecrow (do you even know the author that made that reference by the way, well, I hope you do), I have a question. Would you not blow your load if LeBron somehow made his way to the 76ers? Would you be drinking the Kool-Aid than? I just want to know, because I find their to be quite a bit of bias in what you write, and I want to know if you actually represent altruism or just are angry at the lack of fulfillment in your own means. I would be interested in your graphic novel, but I would like to know more details before I would actually expect it to be anything close to intellectually stimulating. By the way, it’s basketball (one word), hollywood (one word, unless you have some kind of reference or meaning behind putting them in two words, which I would be interested in hearing, and probably know if you just made something up) and finally, it is DOUCHE (just so you don’t sound like a douch, which I just think makes you lose the spelling bee in Billy Madison 🙂

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  • #343092
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    I calmly read every word…There is so much blindness in there I’m sending you Ray Charles Glasses…

    I knew I’d get a reaction…But not from the beast himself…@mikeyvthedon….1 question…”are you a puppet or a puppet master”…You talk you know a lot yet claim there is nothing…You say that there is all these signs and you’ve believed certain things were clearly off…But you’ll fail to accept the truth…you instead try to take time (with a long narrative intended to brain wash people into believing the Boogie Man doesn’t exist….

    “Well, he does exist and he’s rooting for Lebron James…Beware out there be Monsters….”

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  • #343093
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Still didn’t answer my question.

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  • #343095
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Who is pulling the strings? Please elaborate. That has always been my biggest thing, who is pulling the strings? Is David Stern the Godfather? Indeed, he may be, but who else is behind this, break the chain down great string cutter! Not to mention you did not say anything about the potential plot of your graphic novel 🙁

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    mikeyvthedon
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    How would the landscape of the NBA be different with a McCain/Palin victory in 2008. Just wondering. I think these are all valid questions, hope to get answers rather than just writing back a response of catch phrases and again, a lot of finger pointing and no real concrete answer.

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    mikeyvthedon
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    Ray Charles was blind, but I do not think his glasses were the issue. My bad, just wanted to point that out.

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  • #343101
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    We need to lose “Hollywood” Lou Williams and Elton “The Douche Bag” Brand at all cost….Not familar with what quote your asking about…re post it ….I’m lazy…and If I said something…I probably created it myself…so phrases are re worded and I put my own cadence on them…My interpretation…

    One quote I like Is..”.Interpretation is an artist’s revenge on the critic”

    And I’m not a homer…my Philadelphia Dog Fighters are one of my least favorite Teams in the world…
    Vick in trouble again…Oh who would have thought?…

    My graphic Comic…Is being drawn by an up and coming artist comparable with Todd McFarlane from early Spawn fame….and also may feature a Star Cover by Marvel/Dc Comics and Philly resident* Cough* artist Mark Robinson…

    The Book is still in the artist conceptional stages…just waited for from my artist Shawn to completely free is schedule…but with this being The Comic Convention season, He’s very busy and I have to wait a few weeks to begin my Ambitious take over…Back at Mikey V@ you didn’t answer my question…but since you seem like a writer or someone who has the ability to write…you should look for me on the web…Facebook or whatever…I’ll tell you more about my story when I can see who I’m suing if something unfortunate happens….Thanks for pointing out the misspells…I needed that…

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  • #343106
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    I wont begin to start going on and on about the names and potential players in the large network of the Beast…You have to follow your own path to enlightenment…

    Know rough synopsis of my graphic goes like this…All Characters are copy written and trademarked…
    So don’t be a smart ass…I’m being generous with this one….

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  • #343109
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    Are you High?

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  • #343111
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    apb540
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    I like some of your thought on the GeeBron conspiracy theories. What I don’t like is you saying “I don’t much root my basketball team currently” and bashing the Eagles. This type of bullshit gets you labled as a fair-weather fan!

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  • #343117
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Then I came to my senses…And my children are being put down for a nap…

    Sorry I can’t go on answering all of your questions…you throw a lot out there…I’ll be free answer them all…In time…I have to scoll through and pick which ones to answer 1st…just post question at a time and I’ll try to give you my view on the matter…Now I want to talk about My Graphic Novel…Just not sure I want the stain of my sports talk on drfatnet to give people a negative vibe from the start…I’ll give you a copy written version of the Treatment if you on another page and you and a couple of the artistic types can give me some feed back…. I’ll need to know you are cool with reading and respecting my creative work…

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  • #343123
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    mikeyvthedon
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    No problem, you can sue me whenever you want, I have to warn you though, I got taken to small claims court and defended myself and I am proud to say I am 1-0. Also, I do not claim to have all the answers, and if you really read what I wrote, you will see the words, “hope” and “think” and know that this is something written in hoping the reader will make an informed decision on their own, not something that is trying to make it seem like I know the secrets behind these things we see as possibly more than coincidences. Since I do not know, and my research into them has given me very little to believe in them (which you again could say is due to not enough brave souls, or due to cover-ups). I also do not think you lack intelligence, and have a certain creativity, but I think you are far from original, and are more hoping to find people that maybe will accept you or will be inspired by you, hence the graphic novel shout-out. All I can say is I wish you the best man, and if you have something that truly uncovers and makes people understand who really are pulling the strings, I am very much interested in it. Whether I choose to believe it is another thing completely, but as of now I just have not seen evidence of who these people actually are, and what they have done to make my life truly terrible. I am Jewish, and I am told of the power Jewish people supposedly wield over our world, but I am not a part of it, and know very little of who pulls my strings when it comes to that. I would like to think we mostly have control over our destiny and what we choose to do in everyday life, and that while life is not at all fair, we can surely make the best of it. Perhaps I am naiive, maybe even optimistic, but I would like to think that it is reality. Also, to say claim the Boogie Man is rooting for LeBron James and acting as if that is a major conspiracy, I truly wonder if your priorities go beyond basketball. Are you doing a basketball themed graphic novel, or something that goes beyond? If so, I really hope you have done your research on either, and I would sincerely (like, as in I mean it without sarcasm) be interested in reading it as a fan of that particular subject.

    I look up conspriacies. I believe in some. I find it hard to believe others. I do not rule out the possibility of their existence, but I just observe them in the way I see life, which may be biased, but I think most everyone does the same. If LeBron James were cheating, more so than other players or teams mind you (as I doubt LeBron would be alone in your initial accusations), than I would hope he would be brought to justice, which would be not playing in the NBA. But, if he is indeed cheating and nothing is done about it, than I believe the NBA has than set itself on the same precedent as baseball in turning the other cheek, which I think would be sad. I also think players would than be thrown under a bus, which would again like baseball be unfair. So, like you, if players were tested and failed, I would hope for it to be put to a stop tomorrow rather than 2-3 years from now. I think you may have read me wrong and thought I was antoginizing you a bit, and maybe I was, hell, I do that to people sometimes, but it is a way to motivate people into not just thinking creatively, but backing that $hit up. I do not think you totally have, hence my skepticism.

    I have had interactions with people who believe in many of the things you have written, and I will not elaborate who these people are to protect their privacy. They are not sources you would likely know, and to me at least, they are not special or have any knowledge or insight that would say they indeed know everything that goes on. But, when I really asked for them to elaborate on experiences and name names, they were incredibly defensive and to me that discredited much of what they had to say. I am not afraid to ask questions, but at this point I have received very few answers to these questions that leaves me writing and asking them again. If you read every word and catch my drift, kick some knowledge my man.

    Also, the quote I was referring to was “Quote (quoth) the scarecrow.” It is your own cadence, but again, far from original. Which leaves me saying, I really hope your graphic novel is as original and innovative (I believe that would be best to use rather than inventive) as you claim it to be.

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    I go to games all the time…I root for the players…Not the “Teams”..apb…you have to bear with me and read the post carefully…There is no hate in my heart for any of the players of my city…I’ve meet Iggy and his wife and Kids,…He’s a great guy…I can not condone the Vick signing…My wife is an animal activist and works in a animal rescue…we are no PETA nuts…but you can’t show the members of the community that you approve of the Vick signing and not know that this guy is a bad seed…When they signed Vick…I checked out…when they release Vick I’ll check back in…Them losing all the old guys too…I’m still in mourning for my Crow’s….Now as far as the fair Weather…I’m on here reppin My City like a man…Face out…You can find me in the real world…I’m one of the only ones….

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    mikeyvthedon
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    Better believe I would not steal your work man. I think if you have read my posts or seen me before, I give the credit where it is due and post resources. I just would maybe like to hear you give credit for your “Quote the Scarecrow” before saying I would plaguerize your material.

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  • #343133
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Just was wondering man. I tend to root for players too, and I tend to root for LeBron James, because from the moment I saw him I thought he was a fantastic basketball player and had a chance to be one of the best. If that makes me the Boogie Man for thinking that, or means that I am brainwashed, than so be it, but I think it is hard to disagree that whatever the guy is on and whoever is marketing him, the guy can ball. I just want to know, and this is my question:

    If the Philadelphia 76ers signed LeBron James, would you be upset like per se you were with the Eagles signing Michael Vick? I think that is a fair enough question, as you seem to look down on LeBron by what you are posting, but would his involvement in a secret society be as bad as the horrible things Michael Vick did? Michael Vick was (and I say was), my favorite football player, but everytime I think of what he did, it seems to make me physically ill. I have forgiven him to an extent, but at the same time can not at all condemn you for writing off your cities football team for signing him. But, just a question.

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  • #343135
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    my wife and kids are of Jewish decent…Just sat through Shiva for her father and I am too am a skeptic my friend…But I was recently told something that opened my eyes and I’ll try to refrain from posting further Lebron James and the Illuminati threads for fear that they make me sound a little off…But when a leader of the Computer Industry tells you some deeper darker things are coming to fruition and I’m either with it or against it…I woke up and realized I have to live with my eyes open….And since I’m one of the few that has the ability to speak up and inspire thought …Not change…There is no changing the system and stopping the inevitable…all I’ll say is keep the ones you love close…because the End is Nigh…..

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  • #343139
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    McDunkin

    But hey…Sun Yue is on the Wizards summer league team

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  • #343147
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    blink3ebfan
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    Thats the real conspiracy there. Kobe was afraid that his star would be less illuminated by Sun, that is why he is with the Wizards now.

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  • #343148
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    blink3ebfan
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    Thats the real conspiracy there. Kobe was afraid that his star would be less illuminated by Sun, that is why he is with the Wizards now.

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  • #343152
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    For all the reasons we talked about and the fact that I frankly don’t believe LBJ ever wins anything by him self from a purely basketball standpoint…All this Lebron and Bosh to Chicago for another dynasty means nothing me…I’m still not high on LBJ…and feel like he’s a ball dominate player that needs the high light reel and public admiration to hide the flaws in his game…He’s by no means the complete player or alpha and omega to the basketball world…I just don’t buy in to it…I enjoy the dunk as much as the next guy…

    I’ve been told it’s done…That Lebron will be a Bull wear the Number 6…Average a triple double and lead the Bulls to 6 Championships…(Obama’s favorite Team and Fellow Free Mason) Rose and Beasley where both approached by a recruiter for the beast ala Dave Chappelle and Tupac … Rose accepted his place in society and Beasley lost his shyt for a few weeks…Then when told to chill the Hell out or be dealt with…he fell into a mundane existence…do not be suprised If Beasley has countless run ins with the law and falls out of favor to the masters… LBJ will play in Chicago..wear the # 6…win 6 rings with Rose and Bosh…Jay Z recruited Lebron and others …The Nets or Heat(which ever Owner is in favor of the beast will get Wade and Amare…to off set people attentions to another..

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  • #343156
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    I’m not buying another ticket or watching another game on T.V until they cut ties with those two players…

    Talent does not overcome character…Those 2 have no Class or Character….

    I wouldn’t root for Lebron on the Sixers…I’d post LBJ trade threads in Defiance…I’d cast Daniel Craig to kill me some Nazi sonsofbitches…..

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  • #343157
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    Man, I am a convert. Keep being yourself. I realize what I said there was harsh, just when I usually read your post it sounded like incoherent babble and a lot of big upping your city as opposed to anything intelligible. But, man, I really would like you to answer my question, the one I asked that last time. I am glad you are not one of the anti-semite conspiracy theorists, because those ones just seem very crazy to me, though they are out there. I will not even try to label you, and believe I reserve judgement, I just like anyone else, would like to know the evidence. Taking someone who you do not know whatsoever’s word for it is just not something that I think you or I would do. I am not a writer, I just love basketball and have loved writing about basketball and analyzing it for years. I have lists and pages, many of which have been deleted and lost over the years unfortunately (summer 2003 I had 49 pages of things I wrote during a summer, some of which were about how LeBron and Darko were both potential franchise players. The Dark Ages still have not come upon us). But, with all that I have said, I still see very little evidence of how LeBron is more evil than say, Carmelo Anthony or Kobe Bryant (both of whom I do not find evil, though maybe more so than LeBron). So here are two questions that you have yet to answer:

    Would you be cool with LeBron if he were on the 76ers (I have my allegiances in Portland and Toronto, and would be very cool with him on either of those teams)?

    and, what is the frickin reference for “Quote the Scarecrow”?! Come on man, I am sure you know it now, just humor me and say it, you can be inspired by someone else and still be creative.

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  • #343162
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    Do not get the LeBron nazi reference. Also while I understand the number 6 (which could indeed be a symbol, but also was the number of the greatest winner in basketball history, Bill Russell), and of course the 6 rings, the triple double is going a bit to far in conspiracy theories. I mean, if LeBron averaged 6-6-6, than maybe I would say “damn.” But now, I think you are going a little to far. I am still smiling, and not at all angry, and would like to hear your justification for it all, but it seems like you just all out dislike LeBron. He is very ball dominant, he has not won anything, but do you not think the guy plays pretty well? Doesn’t everyone need a solid team to win games? Does the guy not have a handle and court vision that has won his team a few games? Is he not one of the best athletes you have ever seen, which truly separates great players?

    Also, what did DeSean Jackson do? I am not a huge fan of his, ever since the days he killed it at Cal (like when he stopped sideline, than proceeded to run past two helpless defenders of my Ducks end zone). But is it attitude or did he actually do something? When he spiked the ball before scoring a touch down, it was honestly one of the stupidest plays I have seen in sport (though they still somehow maintained possession and scored), but the kid is a blazer. He makes big plays, very fun to watch. He is mad skinny, and I doubt he will ever be considered one of the best receivers in the game due to the fact he weighs a buck sixty, but I want to know why DeSean is on the level of Vick?

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  • #343182
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    brennenrund
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    Wasn’t it DeSean that was celebrating and lost the ball right before the end zone lol. Also Scarecrow mad props for having an opinion and sticking by it no matter how many people dog you for it.

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  • #343198
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    The Cowboys End Zone fumble was down right a reason to bench the kid a month in Sundays…

    Now the Kool Aid Quote I think your talking about is a reference to James Town and The Jim Jones Cult….we are living in times where people follow the same pattern of conformity…
    Now the old saying is “If you don’t stand for something, You’ll fall for anything…”

    The Lebron Nazi line was drawn from the Movie “Defiance”…starring Daniel Craig and featuring him killing some Nazi bastards…read the poorly intended joke…I wasn’t calling LBJ a Nazi…just that I’d protest any James in Philly move made…though he his gifted in the game of basketball(handles,hops and hoopla)…he’s not the second coming of Christ…He’s no “King” of the NBA when several teams have won in his presence…If he’s a King…then he’s the King of Pop…Plastic and superficial…

    To answer the Desean jackson questions…I have friends of friends of his and I’ve witnessed first hand his he’s not the player you want in your organization…In time he’ll prove to be cut from the same cloth as Micheal “I’m a coward who fights animal for amusement because I’m a product of an idiotic culture Vick” He he projects an attitude counter productive to being in any way assiociated with being a positive influence…like dog fighting, gangland culture and “street life”…Guys like DeSean and Vick just show kids…I can be worthless piece of shyt of a person but If I can make a sports franchise a couple hundred million and fly under the radar I’ll be a worthless piece of shyt worth millions…

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    billyk
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    Vick and Jackson are NOT role models, they are athlete’s…

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    Just wait for Desean to start popping off at the mouth about Money and disrespect former quarterbacks and …Oh wait…He’s doing that already…5’10 160 WR with a bulls eye on his ass= Train Wreck waiting to happen….Please get him gone…while he still has some ‘Value”…

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  • #343209
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    Man, this is getting to the point of being ridiculous. The only quote I am asking you about is and I will give it some space to highlight it:

    “Quote the Scarecrow”

    I know about Jonestown, I know about Defiance (not to mention he played a bad ass Jew in Munich, hence making him an idol of most Jews, not to mention my family actually knew the Bielski Bros.) and the joke was fairly poor. Also, that is a harsh reference to Michael Jackson, the dude rocked the world and was incredibly talented, all problems aside. But LeBron’s king title is something I elaborated on before, and I would not put too much into it, like I do with the Illuminati symbolism. I just do not put some of these Illuminati people on the level of rulers or ruling my life. I also do not think they are deep enough to actually use this symbolism and toy with people, I honestly believe they might be ignorant to what it represents and have taken it for their own. I think this is common in pop culture. People follow trends, so LeBron saw Jay-Z throwing those signs up and took them for him, I mean, you use “Quote the Scarecrow” (which is a creature without a brain in the Wizard of Oz, or is a villain in Batman, so not exactly the most original reference, just pointing it out).

    Also, I was reading the thing you said about Michael Beasley. I am wondering, why does his acting out have to be necessarily him going against the system? Do you think his poor play did not play a part in why people have less of opinion of him as a player than they did when he went 2 in 2008? I still think he has potential, and he is a great scorer, but he has serious limits to his game, which show up in his inability to guard either forward spot very effectively. But do you think he has had problems due to speaking against a particular system? Is he one who has not accepted his role which has led to his issues, or is it honestly because he has an attitude. To me, it seems like the latter. But, maybe you have insight I do not. Just find it strange you are reppin for B-Easy.

    Also, what insight do you have against LeBron? Like, is it because of the biblical references, do you think he is working for a higher power, or is it because you feel he is cheating more so than other athletes? Also, I just want to know what makes him bad, or if you have other people you would dislike repping your hometown team or just straight up dislike. Honestly though, I feel like you are ducking my big questions man, and more answering little things. So, once more,

    “Quote the scarecrow” (Inspired by what?)

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  • #343220
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    I guess I used it to my advantage in the post…

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  • #343228
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    Quote…I just wrote what was In my head…now as far as the Lebron and the Illuminati…and Him being the proclaimed King of the Media and NBA…I reference The Jump Man signal and tell you to spot out the sybolism in it…If you don’t have a pair of Jordan’s handy I’ll spare you the Time …There is a the shape of a pyramid between his legs…The symbol of the Free Mason and so called Illuminati…Now that Micheal Jordan folk lure has run it’s course and there is a new Mega Media Mogul…Jordan has become a bitter old man and showed in a negative light through the beast’s propaganda engine…The TV and Internet…

    now quick pass the Kool Aid I think they’re listening….

    If you still want to know about a few of the books I’m writing I’ll talk shop…The Conversation we sparked on Nbadraftnet has influenced me to maybe take on another project…I’ll have to see what happens in free agency but I’m thinking about this for the Title of an Expose of Lebron and The Illuminati
    “The Boogie Man Exist and He’s Rooting For Lebron James”

    Here’s some reference material…

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  • #343235
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    mikeyvthedon
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    I would hope to get some credit if you use my ideas, but I have yet to use yours. Yes, Nike does very well with symbolism and fetish marketing (it is actually referred to as that), but I never saw an eye on MJ’s junk, though I checked my Jordan’s and I was like “$hit, they winked back at me!”

    Just kidding around, but I have seen the video, and other than the sick Dilla beat at the end, I just find it to not really be a big deal, and I guess I am not drinking the kool aid of the cult that believes it shows his connections to the Illuminati? Do you by chance follow Alex Jones, David Icke, etc. I do my research man, and I am glad you finally gave Poe the credit that was due, at first I almost thought you were just a person who did not know what he was saying, but I can see you do look into these things. I just would like to know some of the reason why you believe that LeBron going to Chicago is such a bad thing, though I am guessing it is because you just dislike LeBron and what he stands for and feel the powers that be are making him into the next Michael. Do you believe Michael was also a conspiracy? Because while I count him as the best of all time, many people think Michael got a helping hand, which I find to be pretty much garbage, but am interested in your thoughts.

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  • #343239
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    Research Jordan’s father’s murder…Try to make a connection from that to the fact MJ was trying to force his hand in taking all the rights to his image and jump man trademarks..he went against the grain and what happened…they told him it can get worse…Now Jordan’s bitterly involved with the sport that made him “King” and because he doesn’t smile and blow sunshine up everyones ass he’s an outcast…Watch video of MJ walking around or watching Bobcats games…He’s often alone and left by himself…

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  • #343240
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    I read a lot of Phillip Dick and Alan Moore and I have a little too much in common….Are you interested in hearing about one of my stories…

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  • #343252
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    mikeyvthedon
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    Do you not think he wants to be left alone? I mean, he is one of the most recognized people on the planet, he probably just wants to chill out. He is an owner, and he did not beat Phil Knight, but to my knowledge, due has done pretty well for himself. I think his issues go beyond going against the grain, and maybe are involved in his competitive edge in everything in life. I mean, the guy is competitive to the point of being fairly immature, like doing anything it would take to win. I was not even talking about his dads murder though, that was not even on my mind. James Jordan being killed, conspiracy or none, was just horrible and I do not know all of the theories for his death, beyond possibly being linked to his gambling, though I never heard such things. I was more referring to the way the NBA was structured for Michael to dominate, and how it is incredibly strange that he is about 10 inches taller than anyone in his family. I had a friend who had a theory about that, wondered if you had heard some of the same things.

    Now, as far as your question I never answered, which I do not think you repeated and I bypassed since it did not have a question mark, I am neither a puppet nor a puppet master. I know both exist, but I would like to think I am not a follower and at the same time I try to remain from manipulative string pulling action in my leadership. So, while at times I am sure we all fall into both categories, if we know it or not, I do not think by being skeptical and from having drawn experience in life to know that paranoia and excuses are two things I try to avoid (though am not always successful, but at least try to avoid) that I would be considered either of those categories. I find that people I have met that use these things, and than at the same time look for ways to stack things in their advantage if given the chance are more puppets than puppet masters themselves. They hope to pull some strings and than they sever their ties, which lead them to the same place in life, nowhere.

    I just re-read that one thing, and realized that you seem to be almost on the edge of arrogance, which may just be me misreading your obvious ambitious nature. You seem to be confident, but at the same time, what does askig a question like that prove? If you indeed do not drink the Kool-Aid, and indeed are in the know, than does that give you some kind of self-fulfillment? Because if I knew these things were true, and actually found out that sports were just full out rigged, I do not think I would still be posting about ways to make my hometown team better. Indeed, I would full out be speaking out against what i felt was evil and getting to the root causes and effects, which is what I try to do. I do not feel you have done the same thing in outlining your information and arguments. Maybe that is why you get negative reaction. I think you if you maybe put more thought into how you outline your points and arguments and less into the obvious volume of posts and the on going….ramblings…..than maybe people would actually would “Quote the Scarecrow”

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  • #343253
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    Yes, I am interested man. I am surprised that this has actually turned into something thought provoking, and I do respect you for having opinions, even if I do not agree with all of them.

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  • #343257
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    I was just adding to the Forum and If I seem like I was being arrogant I apologize…Confidence and arrogance sometimes get misconstrued…Now I am fairly confident in saying that I’m done with Lebron Conspiracy Theories until the free agent craze passes…I wanted to point out certain things that were becoming obvious red flags that the Media frenzy has been preordained…The Fix is In and I guess like everyone else I am a victim of hope…Hope that some thing else comes along and offsets the pre destined road to glory the System has paved…

    And I see your trying to win an arguement by beating answers out of me..give me info…give me links…reference and research…I can only tell you that “The Boogie Exist and he’s rooting for Lebron James”…

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    SpencerIsHawesome2
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    tupac’s alive

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  • #343272
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    …One of my projects is a mash up ala “52” by DC Comics…several writers spinning stories set in a comic universe collaboratively created by a collection of Comic book artist…We’ll all write 15 page comic story arc’s and the next writer will take over where the last guy left off…This is the Book that will most likely be put into publication first because of the cross creative forces behind it…The Second project is another mash up style project where a few artist’s most popular characters “join forces” for a common threat to the Ultra-verse we’re trying to create…One of my characters was spared from his doom by the idea of this spin off so I’m exited about that even though it my get in the way of making the book that features him first…Those two are projects that include several artist and moving parts right now..But due to overwhelming help we all provide each other they may take president over our own individual projects…Now My solo project (writing by Me…art by Shawn Alleyne and Blair Smith…) is set in the near future and is a cross between Alan Moore’s Watchmen and The Twilight Saga…Don’t laugh…but those horrible films have actually given me the inspired me to take on a more romantic view of the end of the world and the rise of the “super hero”….So Throw Alan Moore’s brain into an X-Men character’s body, sprinkle in a dark yet very emotional storyline(ala Twilight) as the heart and put them in a blender and you have the ingredients of my first ambitious undertaking…

    My second project is a toss up between my Zombie “Anthology” Series ala 30 days of Night…and a Detective Noir set in the future…It’s been called a mix of Blade Runner meets Sin City and I Robot….

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  • #343321
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    I was never trying to win anything. Just trying to get information and hopefully learn something new. Doing very little of that right now, so kind of getting tired of it. I thought you were actually going to tell me something beyond comparisons to other comics/stories, though I guess you are afraid to do so. I would like to hear your creations, but so far all have heard is re-runs. Much of my knowledge is through reading, watching and hearsay, which it appears yours is from as well. The only link you gave me was the LeBron video, which I had already seen and think I explained my take on. Well, do not give up, and I was honestly hoping you were going for something beyond what has already been done, though I am sure what you have written has its own inventiveness and take on these subjects. I am glad you are going after the structures of what you see as the puppet masters and are taking on ambitious tasks, but I was really hoping you would be doing something almost that pertained to basketball. I mean, that is what we were talking about, and I do not think that it has ever been done effectively. It may be due to the fact that it hits to close to home, but it seems that no matter how much influence people have, they have done little to expose the actual conspiracies and things going on in sports effectively, other than using the usual boring cliches and drug use (like The Program and Any Given Sunday, which aren’t horrible films, but certainly can be corny at times). One more question, what…..is……the……multiple period…..thing about? It just makes things seem scrambled not make sense. Is it inspired by graphic novel characters, or what? Just would be much easier to understand if you spoke in sentences, and probably much more effective. Plus, in some of your responses, I doubt you have read every single word, because I think you are getting a very skewed perspective of what I have been saying. When you call the LeBron Chicago thing the “BIGGEST CONSPIRACY OF ALL TIME” you can see how it could be mistaken as arrogance.

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  • #343339
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    McDunkin

    My mental wingspan is just too short to understand what’s going on anymore

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    I’m 50 Tyson, and I approved this bump. What? Yeah, I’m 50 Tyson, from St. Paul, Twin Cities, Minnesota. I’m 50 Tyson, and I like this message. Massage on my back. I like sausage with my pancakes, sometimes I smell syrup in the morning.

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  • #371284
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    McDunkin

    i smell a new signee for McDunkin Management Agency OJJ put in a good word

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  • #371285
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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    He’s gonna bring you guys a ton of money. Just keep him away from the LSD and high-class escorts, alright? At least until he’s 18.

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  • #371287
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    McDunkin

    the escorts were never all that “High” class so that shouldnt be a problem

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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    You had me fooled. They had the nicest fur coats I’ve ever seen.

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  • #371289
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    McDunkin

    you see the secret to those is never taking the tags off…JC Penney will take them back…but they dont play about the tag being removed

    You sure you wanna stay a free agent?

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    He might already be signed. He was recently spotted at the Mall of America sporting new Hollister and a pair of diamond-encrusted roller skates. When asked by female mall-goers about his body, he mentioned a personal trainer.

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    Demarcus Oneal
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    you my man are an idiot

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  • #371293
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    McDunkin

    damn i knew i should have made the offer to fix that gap sooner…i was saving that as the deal breaker

    by the way who does he look more like a young(if possible) greg oden or a young shelden williams

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    OrangeJuiceJones
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    Man, he looks like 50 Tyson! He’s got his own look… Well, not his own look, but it’s very unique.

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