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  • #57485
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    TarHeelRaven
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     Reading all the posts and articles about who should be favored to win rookie of the year and it got me thinking.  Should a guy who averages like 20 points and 10 on a team that wins 20-25 games deserve it or a guy who maybe averages 10, 5 assists, 4 rebounds, 2 steals and leads his team to a number 8 seed when that team wasn’t expected to make the playoffs or on the verge of the playoffs.  Just wanted to see what you guys thought.  

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    teamcb3
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    If somebody averages 10 points, 5 assists and 4 boards is he really leading his team to the playoffs?  I see what you are saying, and I think this argument was best used when LeBron and Melo were both rookies.  LeBron may have had better numbers, but Carmelo got the Nuggets to the playoffs (remember when Melo was the "winner" out of those two lol), but even still for Carmelo to lead the Nuggets to the playoffs he still had to have rookie of the year like numbers.  I think we saw last year with MCW winning ROY that it all comes down to stats, and not overall team performance.  I do believe that you do not have to have the best numbers overall in the rookie class to win ROY, but you need to have at least comparable numbers.  If somebody in this class averages 20 and 10 you can lock the award up for him right now.

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    teamcb3
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    If somebody averages 10 points, 5 assists and 4 boards is he really leading his team to the playoffs?  I see what you are saying, and I think this argument was best used when LeBron and Melo were both rookies.  LeBron may have had better numbers, but Carmelo got the Nuggets to the playoffs (remember when Melo was the "winner" out of those two lol), but even still for Carmelo to lead the Nuggets to the playoffs he still had to have rookie of the year like numbers.  I think we saw last year with MCW winning ROY that it all comes down to stats, and not overall team performance.  I do believe that you do not have to have the best numbers overall in the rookie class to win ROY, but you need to have at least comparable numbers.  If somebody in this class averages 20 and 10 you can lock the award up for him right now.

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    Ihateusernames
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     Rookie of the year and MVP are two different criterial. The best rookie should win the award. Not the rookie on the best team who happens to contribute.

    rookie of the year is a lot clearer than the MVP. It clearly says rookie of he year. Sometimes I wish the MVP would be called the player of the year

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    Ihateusernames
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     Rookie of the year and MVP are two different criterial. The best rookie should win the award. Not the rookie on the best team who happens to contribute.

    rookie of the year is a lot clearer than the MVP. It clearly says rookie of he year. Sometimes I wish the MVP would be called the player of the year

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    Flameres15
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     I would say that the rookie who makes the biggest difference should win ROY. In 2012 it came down to Damian Lillard and Anthony Davis. Obviously Davis improved their standing in the draft, but Lillard changed the dynamic of the team. Davis’s numbers were actually better per 36 minutes, but he was injured for part of the year. This year Michael Carter-Williams won ROY, but he was on a terrible team so his stats were inflated. If Victor Oladipo was given the starting job and the team was healthy, Oladipo would have won ROY. ROY should award the impact of a player on a team, not individual statistics.

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     I would say that the rookie who makes the biggest difference should win ROY. In 2012 it came down to Damian Lillard and Anthony Davis. Obviously Davis improved their standing in the draft, but Lillard changed the dynamic of the team. Davis’s numbers were actually better per 36 minutes, but he was injured for part of the year. This year Michael Carter-Williams won ROY, but he was on a terrible team so his stats were inflated. If Victor Oladipo was given the starting job and the team was healthy, Oladipo would have won ROY. ROY should award the impact of a player on a team, not individual statistics.

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     I’ve been saying this about Wiggins and Jabari. Jabari may average 18&7 while Wiggins may get 14&5 but with the hype around Wiggins and Lebron in Cleveland, and writers voting that Wiggins will win it. It’s my bold statement. Wiggins will win ROY because Cleveland will be good and he and Lebron will wreak havoc on D. Overshadowing the better statistical season by Jabari. 

    I don’t think it should be this way but I think it will. 

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     I’ve been saying this about Wiggins and Jabari. Jabari may average 18&7 while Wiggins may get 14&5 but with the hype around Wiggins and Lebron in Cleveland, and writers voting that Wiggins will win it. It’s my bold statement. Wiggins will win ROY because Cleveland will be good and he and Lebron will wreak havoc on D. Overshadowing the better statistical season by Jabari. 

    I don’t think it should be this way but I think it will. 

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  • #938770
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    terrancebower
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     I don’t think winning should account for as much in ROY voting as is does in MVP voting simply because lottery picks are expected to be on terrible teams and the more playing time a team gives its rookies the worse they will be for doing so. Does anyone believe that any rookie from this class or any of the last 10 rookie classes would have single handedly got the 76ers into the playoffs this year? Of course not, so if MCW were denied ROY due to them sucking it would be truly unfair to him.

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  • #938638
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    terrancebower
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     I don’t think winning should account for as much in ROY voting as is does in MVP voting simply because lottery picks are expected to be on terrible teams and the more playing time a team gives its rookies the worse they will be for doing so. Does anyone believe that any rookie from this class or any of the last 10 rookie classes would have single handedly got the 76ers into the playoffs this year? Of course not, so if MCW were denied ROY due to them sucking it would be truly unfair to him.

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