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Toronto16 16 years, 5 months ago.
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- Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 11:57am #12430
SupParticipantI just saw Rubio play no Pistol Pete there. As far John Wall he is a bit overrated, Demarcus Cousins would be a better #1.
PS lebron at the game? Last yr Stephen Curry, now John Wall, that reeks.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:02pm #251817
Michael.S.ParticipantCousins before Wall=Laughable
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:04pm #251820
JNixonParticipantLOL…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:06pm #251822
the I in winParticipanti’ll just leave that at wow.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:07pm #251823
Bryant24ParticipantDude u funny using john wall and overrated in the same sentence
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:15pm #251829
hotshotschampParticipantrubio and wall are both damn fine PG’s.
Much different players though.
Hardly overrated.
Rubio had an off game, it happens. In the past 6 weeks he’s had a ton of good games also. He tore up Real Madrid and some other good teams.
He is the deal.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:21pm #251831
DanEboyParticipantThe problem with Wall is that he is too fast for himself, much like Jennings. Once his play catches up with his speed and he understands how to harness it he will be awesome. Derrick Rose is lightning quick but he knows when to turn it on and off, Wall will figure it out and that will cut down his turnovers. He has the ball in his hands all the time and runs the offense so he gets exposed more than a guy like Cousins who collects put backs and passes from Wall. No way Cousins deserves to go before Wall. Wall is a special talent who will be much better in the NBA.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:25pm #251837
hotshotschampParticipantI agree you take wall before cousins.
However, I can see Cousins as a legit top 5 pick.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:28pm #251838
esperanzafleet69Participantrubio has some supreme court vision…. 1 game cannot tell how good he is
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:39pm #251841
SlimParticipantnobody’s perfect
player who sees the court like nobody’s business, plays clever defense, rebounds a lot and really isn’t much of a scorer?
M. Haubs of the Painted Area has been watching lots of Ricky Rubio, and thinks he might be seeing Kidd. He used a John Hollinger formula to take Rubio’s Euroleague statistics and project them into NBA production.
Here’s what Ricky’s per-36 minute numbers look like when translated to the NBA: 8.3 points, 6.5 rebounds, 12.7 assists, .343 FG%, 15.6 PER
Consider that Steve Nash leads the NBA in assists per 36 minutes with 11.8, followed by Chris Paul at 10.6, and Rubio’s 12.7 number jumps off the page.
Consider also that Kyle Lowry leads NBA point guards in rebounds per 36 minutes with 5.8, followed by Jason Kidd at 5.3 and Russell Westbrook at 5.0, and you start to get a sense of Ricky’s nose for the ball as a rebounder, too.
Yet, on the other end of the spectrum, consider how bad that .343 FG% is — Trevor Ariza is last among qualified NBA players at .378, followed by Brandon Jennings at .383 and Vince Carter (!) at .390.
And that 8.3 points per 36 is really low, too. Out of all NBA players, it would rank 377th, behind notables such as Chris Duhon and Jason Kidd at 8.8.
Of course, these aren’t precise numbers, especially based off of a 10-game, 210-minute sample, but it at least should give a sense of how Rubio is at extremes as a passer/ballhawk on one end and as a scorer on the other.Increasingly, I wonder if Kidd might be the most apt comparison for Rubio.
There are, of course differences. Rubio has actually been shooting 3s well, something Kidd has only lately mastered. Rubio is also taller and longer. Kidd, meanwhile, has probably always been a better scorer at the rim. But it’s not easy to compare Rubio to anyone, and Kidd is as good a call as any.
http://espn.go.com/blog/truehoop/post/_/id/12707/ricky-rubio-as-the-european-jason-kidd
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:41pm #251842
hotshotschampParticipantHe will never be the scoring guard, he will have nights where he gets 20, but most nights 8-14 pts.
However he will be an assist machine, book it, i’ve seen him in about 12 games this year. His vision is simply insane.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:41pm #251843
hotshotschampParticipantHe will never be the scoring guard, he will have nights where he gets 20, but most nights 8-14 pts.
However he will be an assist machine, book it, i’ve seen him in about 12 games this year. His vision is simply insane.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 12:42pm #251844
LeroyJenkinsParticipanti hope your not talking about the game they showed today on NBA TV because his team dominated
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 1:17pm #251848
Adi JosephThe Pistol Pete comparisons became clearly irrelevant by the time Rubio was 17. He got that nickname when he was like 14, scoring a ton on junior players.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 1:29pm #251850
Prospect21ParticipantLol 🙂
Wall and Rubio overrated? Someone gotta see that UConn game, UNC game and holla back
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 1:45pm #251855
RickyRubio9ParticipantRajon Rondo anyone?
Not the Best Shooter, Does everything else Pretty Darn Well.
Long Wingspan, Tall for the PG. I’m sure I can figure out some more common things between the Two, but I’m about to start crying because my Longhorns are ’bout to lose our 3rd Game. 🙁 … C’Mon Man! haha.0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 2:05pm #251860
itsOvaParticipantI dont even understand WTF you said
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 2:28pm #251863
TyroberParticipanti use to think Sup was just retarded and now i just think he tries to act dumb. noway he is seriious
0 - Posted on: Sat, 01/30/2010 - 3:22pm #251879
Toronto16ParticipantYou have got to be kidding. John Wall is on the same level as Derrick Rose. Demarcus Cousins is thriving cause of all the attention Wall attracts gives him so many open looks.
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