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- Posted on: Sun, 12/14/2014 - 11:46pm #58627

AderitoParticipantThe Charlotte Hornets and Indiana Pacers have held preliminary trade talks on Lance Stephenson, according to sources. A deal is not imminent at this point.
The Hornets have been unwilling to attach a draft pick to Stephenson, which would have helped talks with the Pacers.
The Brooklyn Nets and Los Angeles Clippers have also researched Stephenson’s time with the Hornets, but aren’t serious at this point.
The Hornets signed Stephenson in the offseason.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 2:12am #958826

Mr. HookShotParticipantAlthough Stephenson is a good player he clearly is not a good fit with the Hornets right now. He could flourish for another team, but I don’t see him excelling in a Charlotte uniform. Having said that, I would say him going back to the Pacers seems very unlikely (considering the contract history of last offseason), and looking at the Clippers roster I see very little potential fits with the Hornets.
The Nets however definitely have a need for a high-upside player who is under control for a few more seasons to pair with all their veterans (or give the keys to once they somehow traded these veterans). At this moment, the Nets have collected a nice group of shooters on the wing (Bogdanovic, Teletovic, Karasev) that are attractive for every team (especially the Hornets), and pairing him up with sparsely-used Plumlee might be enough to entice the Hornets. Plumlee is a very good fit next to Big Al, and even though they have plenty of young big men I would say you can never have enough talent. Receiving a shooting big man in Teletovic (who’s on a one-year contract) and a shooter on the wing (Bogdanovic or Karasev) fits very well with the Hornets as well.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 2:12am #958964

Mr. HookShotParticipantAlthough Stephenson is a good player he clearly is not a good fit with the Hornets right now. He could flourish for another team, but I don’t see him excelling in a Charlotte uniform. Having said that, I would say him going back to the Pacers seems very unlikely (considering the contract history of last offseason), and looking at the Clippers roster I see very little potential fits with the Hornets.
The Nets however definitely have a need for a high-upside player who is under control for a few more seasons to pair with all their veterans (or give the keys to once they somehow traded these veterans). At this moment, the Nets have collected a nice group of shooters on the wing (Bogdanovic, Teletovic, Karasev) that are attractive for every team (especially the Hornets), and pairing him up with sparsely-used Plumlee might be enough to entice the Hornets. Plumlee is a very good fit next to Big Al, and even though they have plenty of young big men I would say you can never have enough talent. Receiving a shooting big man in Teletovic (who’s on a one-year contract) and a shooter on the wing (Bogdanovic or Karasev) fits very well with the Hornets as well.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:19am #958836
prophetmeirParticipantClippers would be a great fit with doc,but they dont have many pieces. I think they end up keeping him at this point and trade him next year with his deal expiring more flexability . I think now the low ball offers are going to roll in.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:19am #958974
prophetmeirParticipantClippers would be a great fit with doc,but they dont have many pieces. I think they end up keeping him at this point and trade him next year with his deal expiring more flexability . I think now the low ball offers are going to roll in.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:26am #958978

Jr. ROXASParticipantI think Brooklyn would be ideal for Lance and vice versa because he is from the New York area. That would at least create some buzz around the city and have a player they could actually root for and bring excitement to the building. I have a feeling the Brooklyn fans are pretty fed up now with thei "star" players Deron and Brook.
It’s a shame that the Nets have underperformed bad these past years because the atmosphere there is pretty awesome too. Not saying it’s like MSG but the way fans react in that arena gives players that extra boost playing in the big stage like how playing at MSG gets the best out of a lot of the marquee players.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:26am #958840

Jr. ROXASParticipantI think Brooklyn would be ideal for Lance and vice versa because he is from the New York area. That would at least create some buzz around the city and have a player they could actually root for and bring excitement to the building. I have a feeling the Brooklyn fans are pretty fed up now with thei "star" players Deron and Brook.
It’s a shame that the Nets have underperformed bad these past years because the atmosphere there is pretty awesome too. Not saying it’s like MSG but the way fans react in that arena gives players that extra boost playing in the big stage like how playing at MSG gets the best out of a lot of the marquee players.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 5:15pm #959095
Lotto StudParticipantFed up is an understatement. Within the next few seasons, Plumlee will make my fellow Net supporters forget we even had Lopez. I’m just ready to bamboozle someone into taking him off our hands.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 5:15pm #958957
Lotto StudParticipantFed up is an understatement. Within the next few seasons, Plumlee will make my fellow Net supporters forget we even had Lopez. I’m just ready to bamboozle someone into taking him off our hands.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:31am #958980

HitsterParticipantI wonder if the Knicks might consider Lance, it would eat into 2015 cap space but with Shumpert an RFA next summer and them having expiring deals they might be able to put a package together.
I’d feel that Lance would be a good player in the triangle system and having Phil Jackson and Derrick Fisher there would give him a couple of good leaders plus he’d become the 2nd main player on the team after Melo.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:31am #958842

HitsterParticipantI wonder if the Knicks might consider Lance, it would eat into 2015 cap space but with Shumpert an RFA next summer and them having expiring deals they might be able to put a package together.
I’d feel that Lance would be a good player in the triangle system and having Phil Jackson and Derrick Fisher there would give him a couple of good leaders plus he’d become the 2nd main player on the team after Melo.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 5:56am #958992
machu46ParticipantI’d love for Milwaukee to buy low on him right now, but only if the front office believes his mental issues (not sure how else to describe it, antics maybe?) would NOT hurt Giannis and Jabari’s development. The Bucks are creating a strong culture right now and I’d hate to see it ruined, but Stephenson’s talent is undeniable and Milwaukee definitely has the pieces to get a deal done if they have the interest.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 5:56am #958854
machu46ParticipantI’d love for Milwaukee to buy low on him right now, but only if the front office believes his mental issues (not sure how else to describe it, antics maybe?) would NOT hurt Giannis and Jabari’s development. The Bucks are creating a strong culture right now and I’d hate to see it ruined, but Stephenson’s talent is undeniable and Milwaukee definitely has the pieces to get a deal done if they have the interest.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 2:46pm #959057

HitsterParticipantOne team that has a load of cap space is Philly, might Hinkie take a punt on him. Stephenson would become one of the senior players immediately.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 2:46pm #958919

HitsterParticipantOne team that has a load of cap space is Philly, might Hinkie take a punt on him. Stephenson would become one of the senior players immediately.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 3:30pm #959069

r377ParticipantI wonder if the Pistons have enquired about Stephenson ?
Bobcats need a shotblocker up front to help Jefferson. Something like Josh Smith and KCP for Stephenson and something like Neal / Zeller / Hairston / Taylor / Vonleh to make the salaries work….. Maybe Stephenson, Hairston/Neal and Taylor.
Charlotte – Walker, KCP/Henderson, MKG, J.Smith, Al Jeff
Detroit – Jennings, Stephenson, Taylor, Monroe, Drummond
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 3:30pm #958931

r377ParticipantI wonder if the Pistons have enquired about Stephenson ?
Bobcats need a shotblocker up front to help Jefferson. Something like Josh Smith and KCP for Stephenson and something like Neal / Zeller / Hairston / Taylor / Vonleh to make the salaries work….. Maybe Stephenson, Hairston/Neal and Taylor.
Charlotte – Walker, KCP/Henderson, MKG, J.Smith, Al Jeff
Detroit – Jennings, Stephenson, Taylor, Monroe, Drummond
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:10pm #959083

ChoppyParticipantIf they have to give up KCP it’s too much. The most I’d go is Smith and Dinwiddie for that package.
KCP > Lance in my opinion (or will be).
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 4:10pm #958945

ChoppyParticipantIf they have to give up KCP it’s too much. The most I’d go is Smith and Dinwiddie for that package.
KCP > Lance in my opinion (or will be).
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 7:51pm #958979

r377ParticipantChoppy, at least Lance passes the ball. KCP is a ball hog. The kid was never a good shooter in college, now in the pros he shot 39% last season and 38% this season. I think if the pistons are ever to move Josh Smith, they might need to throw in a sweetener Like Pope (8th overall selection) get rid of him before he loses anymore trade value.
Pistons should of taken Burke instead of Pope in that draft.
0- Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 9:56pm #958997

ChoppyParticipantKCP may be a ball hog but from all reports he is a nice, likeable, coachable kid. Lance is a locker room cancer. I’d rather bank on KCP learning to pass than for Lance to grow a brain. He’s a talent, no doubt, but on a team like Detroit I think he’d be a bad influence on our younger players.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 9:56pm #959135

ChoppyParticipantKCP may be a ball hog but from all reports he is a nice, likeable, coachable kid. Lance is a locker room cancer. I’d rather bank on KCP learning to pass than for Lance to grow a brain. He’s a talent, no doubt, but on a team like Detroit I think he’d be a bad influence on our younger players.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 7:51pm #959117

r377ParticipantChoppy, at least Lance passes the ball. KCP is a ball hog. The kid was never a good shooter in college, now in the pros he shot 39% last season and 38% this season. I think if the pistons are ever to move Josh Smith, they might need to throw in a sweetener Like Pope (8th overall selection) get rid of him before he loses anymore trade value.
Pistons should of taken Burke instead of Pope in that draft.
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- Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 5:16pm #959097

festar35Participantneed outside scoring threat and consistent shooters. Smith offers none of that, Afflalo or Joe Johnson (i know big contract).
These guys have been around for a while have shown an ability to shoot consistently over recent years and I think they fit what Charlotte requires. Their respective teams need to shake it up and Stephenson can definitely do that and there would be Shaw in Denver and KG (could teach him to harness that crazy….maybe) as some leaders to keep him in check.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 12/15/2014 - 5:16pm #958959

festar35Participantneed outside scoring threat and consistent shooters. Smith offers none of that, Afflalo or Joe Johnson (i know big contract).
These guys have been around for a while have shown an ability to shoot consistently over recent years and I think they fit what Charlotte requires. Their respective teams need to shake it up and Stephenson can definitely do that and there would be Shaw in Denver and KG (could teach him to harness that crazy….maybe) as some leaders to keep him in check.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 9:42am #959046

PlatypusParticipantI’m liking the idea of:
Stephenson and Zeller for Josh Smith and KCP.
Both teams give up a headache and a quality prospect.
This gives the Pistons a potential big if (sadly when) Monroe leaves
This gives the Hornets a shot blocker to pair with Jefferson
Pistons become:
Jennings – Stephenson – Singler – Monroe – Drummond
Augustin – Meeks – Butler – Jerebko – Zeller
Hornets become:
Walker – KCP – Henderson – Smith – Jefferson
Roberts – Neal – MKG – Maxiell – Biyombo
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 9:42am #959185

PlatypusParticipantI’m liking the idea of:
Stephenson and Zeller for Josh Smith and KCP.
Both teams give up a headache and a quality prospect.
This gives the Pistons a potential big if (sadly when) Monroe leaves
This gives the Hornets a shot blocker to pair with Jefferson
Pistons become:
Jennings – Stephenson – Singler – Monroe – Drummond
Augustin – Meeks – Butler – Jerebko – Zeller
Hornets become:
Walker – KCP – Henderson – Smith – Jefferson
Roberts – Neal – MKG – Maxiell – Biyombo
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- Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 10:39am #959050

HitsterParticipantCharlotte and Detroit could do a deal, they are both Eastern conference but different divisions. It depends how highly both teams rate their respective players.
Charlotte would need to find $5 million to balance out the trade but Gary Neal has a $3.2 million expiring deal which would put the salaries much closer together. If other younger players become involved then it becomes more complicated. Young high draft picks like Cody Zeller and KCP are being talked about. Detroit might try to get something for Greg Monroe if he’d agree to be traded if they got Zeller and Detroit might ask for Biyombo or Charlotte try to move Marvin Williams etc.
But the basic Smith for Stephenson trade plus salary balancer looks good to me.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 10:39am #959189

HitsterParticipantCharlotte and Detroit could do a deal, they are both Eastern conference but different divisions. It depends how highly both teams rate their respective players.
Charlotte would need to find $5 million to balance out the trade but Gary Neal has a $3.2 million expiring deal which would put the salaries much closer together. If other younger players become involved then it becomes more complicated. Young high draft picks like Cody Zeller and KCP are being talked about. Detroit might try to get something for Greg Monroe if he’d agree to be traded if they got Zeller and Detroit might ask for Biyombo or Charlotte try to move Marvin Williams etc.
But the basic Smith for Stephenson trade plus salary balancer looks good to me.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 11:12am #959058

IndianaBasketballParticipantThe more I read, the more I think Lance will end up with the Pacers again. Teams are real hesitant to trade for him, except for the Pacers. Today I read an article that said Herb Simon, Larry Bird and Kevin Pritchard would all welcome him back.
The Pacers hold all of the leverage in the deal, so reports are they’re requesting the Hornets add in a first round pick. If they don’t, I’ve heard rumors of the Pacers requesting that the Hornets take back George Hill and his contract. Hill and Lance didn’t co-exist well last season.
I’ve seen several different and variations of trades involving Luis Scola, Ian Mahinmi, George Hill, Chris Copeland and Rodney Stuckey.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 11:12am #959197

IndianaBasketballParticipantThe more I read, the more I think Lance will end up with the Pacers again. Teams are real hesitant to trade for him, except for the Pacers. Today I read an article that said Herb Simon, Larry Bird and Kevin Pritchard would all welcome him back.
The Pacers hold all of the leverage in the deal, so reports are they’re requesting the Hornets add in a first round pick. If they don’t, I’ve heard rumors of the Pacers requesting that the Hornets take back George Hill and his contract. Hill and Lance didn’t co-exist well last season.
I’ve seen several different and variations of trades involving Luis Scola, Ian Mahinmi, George Hill, Chris Copeland and Rodney Stuckey.
It’ll be interesting to see what happens.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 2:40pm #959082

ExumInfernoParticipantI will put a trade idea out there.
Stephenson and J Taylor to the Kings.
Stauskas and D Williams to the Hornets.
The Hornets get an outside shooter to use with Jefferson in the post attracting extra defenders. Kings keep adding to their assortment of players who could be very good together or maybe very bad.
I do like the Josh Smith for Lance deal posted above.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 2:40pm #959221

ExumInfernoParticipantI will put a trade idea out there.
Stephenson and J Taylor to the Kings.
Stauskas and D Williams to the Hornets.
The Hornets get an outside shooter to use with Jefferson in the post attracting extra defenders. Kings keep adding to their assortment of players who could be very good together or maybe very bad.
I do like the Josh Smith for Lance deal posted above.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 4:53pm #959090

SmooveKRYPTParticipanthttp://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ood2d7j
Charlotte gets rid of Lance while adding much needed floor spacing/perimeter shooting and getting back a piece who helped off their bench last year.
Clippers have had interest in AA in the past and he brings a lot of the same things to the table as JJ with a little more versatility on both ends of the floor. Foye can play off Crawford in the 2nd unit better than Farmar has.
Denver rolls the dice on getting the Indiana Lance rather than the guy we’ve seen in Charlotte these past 2 months. Shaw has familiarity with him and with open court weapons like Lawson, Chandler, Faired, etc. he might thrive more than he has in a crowded half-court style Charlotte plays.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 12/16/2014 - 4:53pm #959229

SmooveKRYPTParticipanthttp://espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=ood2d7j
Charlotte gets rid of Lance while adding much needed floor spacing/perimeter shooting and getting back a piece who helped off their bench last year.
Clippers have had interest in AA in the past and he brings a lot of the same things to the table as JJ with a little more versatility on both ends of the floor. Foye can play off Crawford in the 2nd unit better than Farmar has.
Denver rolls the dice on getting the Indiana Lance rather than the guy we’ve seen in Charlotte these past 2 months. Shaw has familiarity with him and with open court weapons like Lawson, Chandler, Faired, etc. he might thrive more than he has in a crowded half-court style Charlotte plays.
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