[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 

Old stat. For all those that want to say Kobe isnt a top 5 player of all time… if you are a starting a team and the plan is to win a championship, just common sense to have the guy who leads victories over a 50+ win team than a 50-minus win team.

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 please name the teams years and records.

I don’t think this is a correct stat.

but always up to being proven wrong.

 

 

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 please name the teams years and records.

I don’t think this is a correct stat.

but always up to being proven wrong.

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

Too much work just use bball reference. But ESPN created this so I would say it’s pretty crediable. 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

Too much work just use bball reference. But ESPN created this so I would say it’s pretty crediable. 

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 Kobe Bryant playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams

1997-98 Seattle SuperSonics Record: 61-21
1999-00 Phoenix Suns Record: 53-29
1999-00 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 59-23
1999-00 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
1999-00 NBA Champions
2000-01 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 50-32
2000-01 Sacramento Kings Record: 55-27
2000-01 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2000-01 Philadelphia 76ers Record: 56-26
2000-01 NBA Champions
2001-02 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2001-02 Sacramento Kings Record: 61-21
2001-02 New Jersey Nets Record: 52-30
2001-02 NBA Champions
2002-03 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 51-31
2003-04 San Antonio Spurs Record: 57-25
2003-04 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 58-24
2003-04 NBA Finals
2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2007-08 NBA Finals
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2008-09 NBA Champions
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32

 

 

[Ahkasi ClayParticipant]

 Kobe Bryant playoff series wins vs 50+ win teams

1997-98 Seattle SuperSonics Record: 61-21
1999-00 Phoenix Suns Record: 53-29
1999-00 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 59-23
1999-00 Indiana Pacers Record: 56-26
1999-00 NBA Champions
2000-01 Portland Trail Blazers Record: 50-32
2000-01 Sacramento Kings Record: 55-27
2000-01 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2000-01 Philadelphia 76ers Record: 56-26
2000-01 NBA Champions
2001-02 San Antonio Spurs Record: 58-24
2001-02 Sacramento Kings Record: 61-21
2001-02 New Jersey Nets Record: 52-30
2001-02 NBA Champions
2002-03 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 51-31
2003-04 San Antonio Spurs Record: 57-25
2003-04 Minnesota Timberwolves Record: 58-24
2003-04 NBA Finals
2007-08 Denver Nuggets Record: 50-32
2007-08 Utah Jazz Record: 54-28
2007-08 San Antonio Spurs Record: 56-26
2007-08 NBA Finals
2008-09 Houston Rockets Record: 53-29
2008-09 Denver Nuggets Record: 54-28
2008-09 Orlando Magic Record: 59-23
2008-09 NBA Champions
2009-10 Oklahoma City Thunder Record: 50-32
2009-10 Utah Jazz Record: 53-29
2009-10 Phoenix Suns Record: 54-28
2009-10 Boston Celtics Record: 50-32

 

 

[BasketBalAllanParticipant]

To be fair Kobe had a Shaq in his prime playing alongside him for around half of those eliminations, so I wouldn’t necessarily say he led all those teams.

But as a person who watched him in loathing for many years, I must say that he was an incredible player.

 

[BasketBalAllanParticipant]

To be fair Kobe had a Shaq in his prime playing alongside him for around half of those eliminations, so I wouldn’t necessarily say he led all those teams.

But as a person who watched him in loathing for many years, I must say that he was an incredible player.

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 So what Lebron had Dwade and Bosh, Bird had Mchale and Parish, Jordan had Pippen and Rodman, Magic had Kareem and Worthy. Kobe had ONE player. 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 So what Lebron had Dwade and Bosh, Bird had Mchale and Parish, Jordan had Pippen and Rodman, Magic had Kareem and Worthy. Kobe had ONE player. 

[SubZeroParticipant]

Lebron only had them for 3 years. I’m definitely a proponent for Kobe, but I have to defend Lebron a little. He played for an organization who wouldn’t trade JJ Hickson for Amare Stoudamire. His best teammate in 7 years was…….Mo Williams

[SubZeroParticipant]

Lebron only had them for 3 years. I’m definitely a proponent for Kobe, but I have to defend Lebron a little. He played for an organization who wouldn’t trade JJ Hickson for Amare Stoudamire. His best teammate in 7 years was…….Mo Williams

[PulseGlazerParticipant]

You are aware that there were fewer playoff rounds AND teams don’t choose who they play, right?

[PulseGlazerParticipant]

You are aware that there were fewer playoff rounds AND teams don’t choose who they play, right?

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 You are aware, that still doesnt make things easier on Kobe lol.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 You are aware, that still doesnt make things easier on Kobe lol.

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 I bet that Kobe just wanted to end that streak on 24 because it was his number. He’s probably secretly still way better than Lebron and Curry but he just doesn’t want to change that win number. Step 1 complete: Denial

[ZachAttackParticipant]

 I bet that Kobe just wanted to end that streak on 24 because it was his number. He’s probably secretly still way better than Lebron and Curry but he just doesn’t want to change that win number. Step 1 complete: Denial

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 hahaha conspiracies. 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 hahaha conspiracies. 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Interesting stat. Doesn’t really prove anything but does illustrate the point that  over their careers Kobe faced much tougher competition to get to the finals then lebron, who has played his entire career in a relatively weak eastern conference.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Interesting stat. Doesn’t really prove anything but does illustrate the point that  over their careers Kobe faced much tougher competition to get to the finals then lebron, who has played his entire career in a relatively weak eastern conference.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

The road the player had to go through is important. You’re more likely to lose if you have to play against 4 very good teams instead of just one good team and 3 bad teams. 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

The road the player had to go through is important. You’re more likely to lose if you have to play against 4 very good teams instead of just one good team and 3 bad teams. 

[I am an idiotParticipant]

Don’t you mean Shaq had Kobe (and Dwayne and Penny for his other trips to the Finals)?

Other than maybe Magic and Kareem, the Shaq/Kobe combo was arguably the greatest one-two punch ever (all due respects to Pippin)

  

[I am an idiotParticipant]

Don’t you mean Shaq had Kobe (and Dwayne and Penny for his other trips to the Finals)?

Other than maybe Magic and Kareem, the Shaq/Kobe combo was arguably the greatest one-two punch ever (all due respects to Pippin)

  

[MatosParticipant]

 Listen, Kobe was great. Im not taking anything away from him. But lets not sit here and act like Shaq wasn’t option #1 for the first three championships he gripped up. Shaq was the most dominant in the game during that stretch. The Lakers played in the west which can attribute to that statistic (more 50-win teams).

Im just tired of these statistics trying to insinuate that he was better than MJ. And not comparing Lebron to Kobe (Lebron’s career is far from over and thats unfair to Kobe) but speaking on what has already occured: although Lebron has lost more finals losses, we have to remember that you need your team to be playing up to par to win a championship. On the years that Lebron lost, his team was not playing nearly as well as any of Kobe’s championship winning teams.

 

[MatosParticipant]

 Listen, Kobe was great. Im not taking anything away from him. But lets not sit here and act like Shaq wasn’t option #1 for the first three championships he gripped up. Shaq was the most dominant in the game during that stretch. The Lakers played in the west which can attribute to that statistic (more 50-win teams).

Im just tired of these statistics trying to insinuate that he was better than MJ. And not comparing Lebron to Kobe (Lebron’s career is far from over and thats unfair to Kobe) but speaking on what has already occured: although Lebron has lost more finals losses, we have to remember that you need your team to be playing up to par to win a championship. On the years that Lebron lost, his team was not playing nearly as well as any of Kobe’s championship winning teams.

 

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