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  • #57761
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    As the same old cliché goes, hindsight is 20/20…

    With this being said, I still feel the same way now as I did back in 2009, with the Thunder sitting on the clock at #3. The pick should have been Tyreke Evans! Just to sit back and ponder on all the “wrongdoings” that Westbrook gets ambushed for of not being a true facilitator is ridiculous. Converting him into a PG done! Learning how to play the 1 effectively and becoming elite, mission accomplished! NBA Championship…? (Chalk it up!)

    Please analyze this situation carefully before you slander my process of a title contending Thunder team, by inserting Tyreke Evans over James Harden.

    Westbrook has always been a freak athlete that thrives in transition. Tyreke Evans is a ball-dominant PG that attacks the paint and makes plays by getting others involved. Durant… (No need for an explanation)
    1-2-3 PUNCH!

    Now heading into Westbrook’s 5th season, everyone wants to entertain the thought of him playing off the ball next to Reggie Jackson. It’s way too overblown 5 years after the fact of having a legit PG in grasp, only to pass on him for a 1 dimensional guy in Harden. Russ is not the one to be blamed for the lack of trophies in OKC. Sam Presti has to take full responsibility for this loss, whether Evans is considered an elite talent or not.

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  • #944731
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    That awkward moment when James Harden has averaged more assists than Tyreke Evans has each of the past 2 seasons AKA the two seasons he’s been starting…

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    That awkward moment when James Harden has averaged more assists than Tyreke Evans has each of the past 2 seasons AKA the two seasons he’s been starting…

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  • #944733
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    I am aware of the typos, I could not edit afterwards.

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    I am aware of the typos, I could not edit afterwards.

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  • #944735
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     It’s always hard looking back to try to determine what might have been because different situations almost always cause different results. Would Tyreke Evans have been as dominant with OKC in his rookie year as he was in Sacramento? I doubt it. Evans probably would’ve found himself in the same spot as Harden coming off the bench while Thabo Sefolosha started as the shooting guard. Plus Evans has seen statistical declines in nearly every category since his rookie year while Harden has statistically improved in nearly every category since his rookie season while playing for a better team each year than Evans. Harden and Evans put up signifcant numbers in all of the same categories at this point in their careers. Evans could’ve eventually blended well with the rest of the Thunder’s team, but I doubt at this point in his career he would’ve made a considerable difference.

     

     

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    • #944741
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       Dominance in Sacramento, was his ability to score. The dominance I’m referring to in a Thunder setting is his ability to attack and make plays with a Westbrook/Durant to back him. I do not believe he would have came off the bench if the roles were swapped with Harden. I just do not see it, because he can create off the dribble. There is no way I see him being selfish enough to have the mentality of "I gotta get mine" by having those two guys on the floor.

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      • #944971
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        westbrook and durant create off the dribble too.  harden was the perfect fit because he was primarily another shooter when he was with okc.  no way you can say evans is a better shooter than harden.  they didn’t and don’t need another ball handler because durant and westbrook handle the ball enough.

        steph curry…now, that would be a good debate.

         

         

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      • #944836
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        westbrook and durant create off the dribble too.  harden was the perfect fit because he was primarily another shooter when he was with okc.  no way you can say evans is a better shooter than harden.  they didn’t and don’t need another ball handler because durant and westbrook handle the ball enough.

        steph curry…now, that would be a good debate.

         

         

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    • #944875
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       Dominance in Sacramento, was his ability to score. The dominance I’m referring to in a Thunder setting is his ability to attack and make plays with a Westbrook/Durant to back him. I do not believe he would have came off the bench if the roles were swapped with Harden. I just do not see it, because he can create off the dribble. There is no way I see him being selfish enough to have the mentality of "I gotta get mine" by having those two guys on the floor.

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  • #944869
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     It’s always hard looking back to try to determine what might have been because different situations almost always cause different results. Would Tyreke Evans have been as dominant with OKC in his rookie year as he was in Sacramento? I doubt it. Evans probably would’ve found himself in the same spot as Harden coming off the bench while Thabo Sefolosha started as the shooting guard. Plus Evans has seen statistical declines in nearly every category since his rookie year while Harden has statistically improved in nearly every category since his rookie season while playing for a better team each year than Evans. Harden and Evans put up signifcant numbers in all of the same categories at this point in their careers. Evans could’ve eventually blended well with the rest of the Thunder’s team, but I doubt at this point in his career he would’ve made a considerable difference.

     

     

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  • #944749
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     I’ve honestly tried looking at your point of view but there’s no way outside of leading up to that draft and their rookie year… there’s is no way you take Reke over Harden. I really like Reke and think he still hasn’t found the ideal situation or put it all together but I still don’t take him over The Beard.

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    • #944753
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      I respect it.

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      I respect it.

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  • #944883
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     I’ve honestly tried looking at your point of view but there’s no way outside of leading up to that draft and their rookie year… there’s is no way you take Reke over Harden. I really like Reke and think he still hasn’t found the ideal situation or put it all together but I still don’t take him over The Beard.

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     I feel like this is the kind of topic that popped in summer 2010. OP, have you not watched any basketball or at least gone on the internet since then? Harden is the best offensive sg in the league, Westbrook is a top 10 player regardless of position and Tyreke has never seen the playoffs and gets worse every year.

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  • #944782
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     I feel like this is the kind of topic that popped in summer 2010. OP, have you not watched any basketball or at least gone on the internet since then? Harden is the best offensive sg in the league, Westbrook is a top 10 player regardless of position and Tyreke has never seen the playoffs and gets worse every year.

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  • #944922
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     Really pisses me off when people discount Russ like they always do, who is IMO the 3rd best player in the league. He’s a point guard. Ya he might shoot more than normal PG’s do, so what. KD has won scoring titles playing next to Russ. So tired of this Russ as a 2 guard talk. 

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  • #944788
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     Really pisses me off when people discount Russ like they always do, who is IMO the 3rd best player in the league. He’s a point guard. Ya he might shoot more than normal PG’s do, so what. KD has won scoring titles playing next to Russ. So tired of this Russ as a 2 guard talk. 

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  • #944927
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     I thought they should of considered Harden, Evans, Rubio and Curry.

    I narrowed it down to Curry or Rubio.

    In hindsight having Curry and Durant spreading the floor wit Russ slashing sounds like a nightmare to defenses.

    I was really big on Curry coming out he reminded me of a Ray Allen/Steve Nash hybrid.  

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  • #944792
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     I thought they should of considered Harden, Evans, Rubio and Curry.

    I narrowed it down to Curry or Rubio.

    In hindsight having Curry and Durant spreading the floor wit Russ slashing sounds like a nightmare to defenses.

    I was really big on Curry coming out he reminded me of a Ray Allen/Steve Nash hybrid.  

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  • #944953
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    The big issue I have with that lineup is that Westbrook and Durant need space to operate, and Evans is a career .26% 3 point shooter who’s never hit more than 46 in any one season.

    Yeah, the ball sticks in OKC, but they need a guy who can help distribute AND spread the floor. Durant and Russ wouldn’t have nearly enough room to break down their guy one on one if Reke’s man is lagging off because he can’t be respected as a 3 point shooter. 

    If you’re doing a re-draft for a more ideal back court then Curry seems like the no brainer here, IMO. He can do both, hit 200+ 3’s a year and provide great vision in finding teammates and running an offense and fast breaks.

     

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  • #944818
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    The big issue I have with that lineup is that Westbrook and Durant need space to operate, and Evans is a career .26% 3 point shooter who’s never hit more than 46 in any one season.

    Yeah, the ball sticks in OKC, but they need a guy who can help distribute AND spread the floor. Durant and Russ wouldn’t have nearly enough room to break down their guy one on one if Reke’s man is lagging off because he can’t be respected as a 3 point shooter. 

    If you’re doing a re-draft for a more ideal back court then Curry seems like the no brainer here, IMO. He can do both, hit 200+ 3’s a year and provide great vision in finding teammates and running an offense and fast breaks.

     

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  • #944955
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     I was very high on Curry, but I was higher on Harden coming out of the draft. I was also a fan of Rubio, but just thought Harden was a better fit for the Thunder. I was just praying we didn’t take Thabeet at the time because I have always heard rumors they were high on him for whatever reason. Harden looked like the obvious pick to me and I was excited they picked him. Looking back on it it would have been amazing to have Curry along side Durant and Westbrook. To the OPs post Evans would have been a terrible pick because I am not sure how you can put Evans over Harden or Curry in anyway.

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  • #944820
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     I was very high on Curry, but I was higher on Harden coming out of the draft. I was also a fan of Rubio, but just thought Harden was a better fit for the Thunder. I was just praying we didn’t take Thabeet at the time because I have always heard rumors they were high on him for whatever reason. Harden looked like the obvious pick to me and I was excited they picked him. Looking back on it it would have been amazing to have Curry along side Durant and Westbrook. To the OPs post Evans would have been a terrible pick because I am not sure how you can put Evans over Harden or Curry in anyway.

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  • #944961
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    Maybe in NBA 2k this can work but Westbrook is more of and a better pg than Evans so they had no reason to draft him at the time.

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  • #944826
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    Maybe in NBA 2k this can work but Westbrook is more of and a better pg than Evans so they had no reason to draft him at the time.

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  • #944989
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    Worst thread i’ve ever read.

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    Worst thread i’ve ever read.

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  • #944995
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    Trading Scottie Pippen, Vlad Rad at 12, Robert Swift, Mouhamed Sene, and trading Eric Bledsoe were all bad draft night choices. Harden over Evans?……. No. Evans would not have won the Thunder anything. Harden taking a few less dollars and staying with the team that drafted him however, is another story. 

    Hindsight is not always 20/20 I guess. 

     

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  • #944860
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    Trading Scottie Pippen, Vlad Rad at 12, Robert Swift, Mouhamed Sene, and trading Eric Bledsoe were all bad draft night choices. Harden over Evans?……. No. Evans would not have won the Thunder anything. Harden taking a few less dollars and staying with the team that drafted him however, is another story. 

    Hindsight is not always 20/20 I guess. 

     

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  • #944999
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    Umm, yeah, Steph Curry with Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka would have been unstoppable (and unaffordable).

    I wanted Tyreke Evans at 2 with the Grizzlies pick.  Liked Curry but we already had Mike Conley.  But, dang, Curry, Conley, and OJ Mayo would have been a heck of a 3 guard rotation (if small).

    The problem with the Thunder is they didn’t get enough for James Harden.  I can see why they kept Serge Ibaka.  He is big, long, athletic, and can dunk, rebound, block shots, and shoot some at either the 4 or the 5.

    They just need a fourth option.  Maybe Reggie Jackson is that guy…

    What I think they need is Shawn Marion.  Perfect blend of talent to put on a front line with Ibaka and Durant.  He is a long, smart, defender to put next to Durant and he can rebound and defend bigs, too. 

    He would be really good against the Cavs since he can guard either LeBron or Love as well as Mike Miller.  Marion can also help Ibaka out on the boards, and even give the Thunder a fourth option on offense.  He would complete a really solid, long, five man crunch time unit of Westbrook, Reggie Jackson, Durant, Marion, and Ibaka. 

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  • #944864
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    Umm, yeah, Steph Curry with Durant, Westbrook, and Ibaka would have been unstoppable (and unaffordable).

    I wanted Tyreke Evans at 2 with the Grizzlies pick.  Liked Curry but we already had Mike Conley.  But, dang, Curry, Conley, and OJ Mayo would have been a heck of a 3 guard rotation (if small).

    The problem with the Thunder is they didn’t get enough for James Harden.  I can see why they kept Serge Ibaka.  He is big, long, athletic, and can dunk, rebound, block shots, and shoot some at either the 4 or the 5.

    They just need a fourth option.  Maybe Reggie Jackson is that guy…

    What I think they need is Shawn Marion.  Perfect blend of talent to put on a front line with Ibaka and Durant.  He is a long, smart, defender to put next to Durant and he can rebound and defend bigs, too. 

    He would be really good against the Cavs since he can guard either LeBron or Love as well as Mike Miller.  Marion can also help Ibaka out on the boards, and even give the Thunder a fourth option on offense.  He would complete a really solid, long, five man crunch time unit of Westbrook, Reggie Jackson, Durant, Marion, and Ibaka. 

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  • #945275
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