[llperez]

tim brown:

all time career recptions: #5

all time career recieving yards: #4

all time recieving td’s: #6

all time all purpose yards: #5

total offensive td’s: #16

punt return yards: #5

number of punt returns: #4

total yds from scrimmage: #16

9 time pro bowler

1987 heisman trophy winner(first wide reciever to ever win the award)

college football hall of fame member

nfl record with 10 straight 75 recption season

nfl record for most consecutive games with a reception(147

nfl record for most seasons with 5+ td’s(11)

yeah, this guy is defenitely not worthy of the nfl hall of fame. He has been passed over multiple times now and may never get in at this rate. F the nfl HOF, it’s a joke.

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[llperez]

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Not even Bill Parcells?  One of the best coaches and football minds of his time?  This is ridiculous!

[mcbaileyParticipant]

I’m STILL waiting for Cris Carter to be in the Hall. It’s amazing to me that he’s been snubbed so many times. 

 

I’m glad Curtis Martin made it in, though I’m a bit surprised he made it before Jerome Bettis.

[NbanflguyParticipant]

He should not get in until Cris Carter gets in

[HaleParticipant]

"9 time pro bowler, 1987 heisman trophy winner(first wide reciever to ever win the award), college football hall of fame member"

First of all, none of those matter. Pro Bowl’s are a joke and the people who vote know this. The college awards don’t effect his pro career.

Second of all his career stats are great, like Cris Carters, but let’s break this down. Two seasons with 10+ TD’s, career high is 11. Ok, certainly nothing special there. Four years of 90+ rec and 1,300 yards. Pretty solid, but not out of this world.

Going by just his best ten years his averages are: 87 rec 1099 yards and a tad under 8 TDs. That screams good and consistent but not great. He was never the best WR in the NFL and while his overall career was great, he was never dominant. Never led the NFL in TD’s or yards and led in catches one time (104). That’s why he has been left out. He was better for longer then Carter was though, and honestly that’s the only thing he has going for him, amazing durability.

Cris Carter has a much better case. I feel Carter hasn’t been put in because he was largely a possession receiver who didn’t make the huge play. Carter really only had a few really great years, but it should be enough. 10+ TD’s 6 times (17 is career high), 90+ rec 5 times (did have 122 back to back years though), but only one 1,300 yard season. Carter never led in yards, led in catches once (lost by 1 to Herman Moore the other 122 rec season), led in TD’s 3 times. I can see why he was left out because he was more consistent then dominant, but he was great in enough seasons to the point where I would put him in and not Brown.

10 year average for Carter: 90 rec 1110 yards 10 TD’s. Pretty similar to Brown’s although he missed 4 games in that span to Brown’s 0.  

5 year averages is best for determining there prime. 

Carter: 101.4 rec 1174 yards 13 TD’s (way better)

Brown: 90.8 rec 1235 yards 8.4 TDs

There were plenty of others in or around that era who in their primes were just as good if not better then Brown, he just lasted longer.

[llperez]

Lasting longer and sustains a high level counts for a lot. Going by a 5 year prime would mean emac should he a lock for hall. And tim never had a hall fame bound qb either. In any case I’m a biased raiders fan so don’t mind me

[HaleParticipant]

 Why should lasting longer count for more though? I mean is Tim Brown that much better then Joe Horn was? Or Jimmy Smith, or even Rod Smith? They were all good, maybe even great for a while, but never at a Hall of Fame level.

I don’t think it’s fair that a guy like Sterling Sharpe who was twice the player Brown was will never be in the HoF. He might be the 2nd best WR of All Time but he got one freak injury and it all ended there, despite him being better then nearly every WR in the HoF. Bo jackson and Terrell Davis were two of the most sensational players to ever touch the ball, but they won’t get it because they got hurt too. Is Floyd Little more derserving then those two?

If you’re just that damn good, you deserve to be in it, even if your career was cut short by injuries. At least over people who were just good for a long time.

[PlatypusParticipant]

Jerome Bettis anyone? 

 

AP NFL Offensive Rookie of the Year (1993) PFWA Offensive Rookie of the Year (1993) 6× Pro Bowl selection (1993, 1994, 1996, 1997,2001, 2004) 3× All-Pro selection (1993, 1996, 1997) Super Bowl champion (XL) AP NFL Comeback Player of the Year (1996) PFWA Comeback Player of the Year (1996) Walter Payton Man of the Year (2001) 3× Pittsburgh Steelers Team MVP (1996, 1997, 2000) Sixth-leading rusher of All-Time Pittsburgh Steelers All-Time Team

 

[HaleParticipant]

A lot of those accolades aren’t relevant either. Comeback player of the year isn’t a big deal, especially 3-4 years into a career. Team MVP’s aren’t very important, man of the year doesn’t have anything to do with his play on the field, etc.

He shouldn’t get in because he didn’t even average 4 yards per carry for his career. He was really only good for 3 years, and brought you nothing in the passing game.

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