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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 9:25am #63947

McDunkinNew Orleans Pelicans guard Bryce Dejean-Jones has died at the age of 23, the Dallas County coroner’s office confirmed to Travis Hines of the Ames Tribune on Saturday.
The coroner’s office did not give Hines a cause of death. Shams Charania of The Vertical reported Dejean-Jones died from bleeding out after he suffered a gunshot to the abdomen. Dejean-Jones played college basketball at USC (2010-11), UNLV (2012-14) and Iowa State (2014-15). He went undrafted in 2015 before joining the Pelicans during the summer league.
The Idaho Stampede of the NBA Development League acquired Dejean-Jones off waivers from the Pelicans in December. He averaged 19.2 points and 5.1 rebounds in nine games played for the Stampede. The Pelicans signed Dejean-Jones to a 10-day contract on January 21. He appeared in 14 games with the team, making 11 starts, and averaged 5.6 points and 3.4 rebounds per game. Dejean-Jones was so impressive in his brief stint with the Pelicans that they rewarded him with a three-year contract extension in February. His best game came on February 4 against the Los Angeles Lakers when he scored 17 points and grabbed nine rebounds in a 99-96 loss.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 9:51am #1067344

220ParticipantSo young, what a shame. It sounds like something that didn’t need to happen too which makes it even worse.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 9:51am #1067224

220ParticipantSo young, what a shame. It sounds like something that didn’t need to happen too which makes it even worse.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:00am #1067267
FuqdatassParticipantSeriously, those who keep sayin "RIP" or "it is such a shame" have no fuckin clue what they are talking about. BDJ broke into an apartment, resulting in the owner of the apartment shooting him in an act of self-defense. Those r facts, educate yourselves on the facts first before saying idiotic shit. I’m sure that in the coming days we will find out more details but the simple fact is that he broke into someone’s home. BDJ was an idiot for doing that dumb shit which in the end, cost him his life. Don’t feel sorry for the guy, I feel no sympathy at all for him. Anyone who wants to try to dispute me, good luck!
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:07am #1067271
SportsNinjaParticipantIt can still be a shame, especially in such circumstances.
We don’t yet know why he broke in, so maybe we can hold off on judgement.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:07am #1067392
SportsNinjaParticipantIt can still be a shame, especially in such circumstances.
We don’t yet know why he broke in, so maybe we can hold off on judgement.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:28am #1067291

DukeDaSquadParticipantIts a part of showing respect towards the dead. Maybe theyre also saying its a shame that he did what he did for that to happen to him or that is a shame that a young person with a bright future’s life was taken because he did some nonsense. You shouldn’t be so insensitive towards the situation.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:28am #1067412

DukeDaSquadParticipantIts a part of showing respect towards the dead. Maybe theyre also saying its a shame that he did what he did for that to happen to him or that is a shame that a young person with a bright future’s life was taken because he did some nonsense. You shouldn’t be so insensitive towards the situation.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:00am #1067388
FuqdatassParticipantSeriously, those who keep sayin "RIP" or "it is such a shame" have no fuckin clue what they are talking about. BDJ broke into an apartment, resulting in the owner of the apartment shooting him in an act of self-defense. Those r facts, educate yourselves on the facts first before saying idiotic shit. I’m sure that in the coming days we will find out more details but the simple fact is that he broke into someone’s home. BDJ was an idiot for doing that dumb shit which in the end, cost him his life. Don’t feel sorry for the guy, I feel no sympathy at all for him. Anyone who wants to try to dispute me, good luck!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:01am #1067269
SportsNinjaParticipantThey are saying he was shot after breaking down the door to an apartment.
I would link but it’s triggering the spam filter. This site sometimes. . .
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:01am #1067390
SportsNinjaParticipantThey are saying he was shot after breaking down the door to an apartment.
I would link but it’s triggering the spam filter. This site sometimes. . .
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:16am #1067277
CavFanPRParticipantWhat a shame. R.I.P in peace…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:16am #1067398
CavFanPRParticipantWhat a shame. R.I.P in peace…
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:20am #1067285
FuqdatassParticipant@Sportsninja
Ur wrong. Regardless of why he decided to break into someone’s else apartment, he should have realized that it perfectly legal for the owner to shoot him for trespassing. Even if he knew the owner already, u can’t just break in, not answer when the owner asks, "who is it?" and not expect to get shot. These are facts, don’t deny them. In terms of was it a shame that he died, of course. It’s a shame that he decided to act like a fuckin moron and break into someone’s apartment, for WHATEVER reason. But I personally have no tolerance and sympathy for his dumbass actions, people need to stop making excuses for him.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 2:52pm #1067377
SportsNinjaParticipantI am wrong? Not to challenge your debating skills but at no point in that paragraph did you explain how I am wrong. I fully support self-defense, I never said the guy was wrong for shooting him. The legality of shooting him, or him knowing it was legal, is really inconsequential to my point.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 2:52pm #1067500
SportsNinjaParticipantI am wrong? Not to challenge your debating skills but at no point in that paragraph did you explain how I am wrong. I fully support self-defense, I never said the guy was wrong for shooting him. The legality of shooting him, or him knowing it was legal, is really inconsequential to my point.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:20am #1067406
FuqdatassParticipant@Sportsninja
Ur wrong. Regardless of why he decided to break into someone’s else apartment, he should have realized that it perfectly legal for the owner to shoot him for trespassing. Even if he knew the owner already, u can’t just break in, not answer when the owner asks, "who is it?" and not expect to get shot. These are facts, don’t deny them. In terms of was it a shame that he died, of course. It’s a shame that he decided to act like a fuckin moron and break into someone’s apartment, for WHATEVER reason. But I personally have no tolerance and sympathy for his dumbass actions, people need to stop making excuses for him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:24am #1067289
FuqdatassParticipantAfter reading the initial report, it doesn’t seem like he knew the owner of the apartment. In the event that people try using the argument that BDJ was just playing a prank on a friend, or something along those lines. Maybe that was the case, but from the initial report, it doesn’t sound like it. Inb4 another idiot tries to argue my logic and not accept the facts.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 6:41pm #1067640
WinterSoldierParticipantNobody is blaming anyone. The kid made a mistake and paid with his life its a sad way to end a life. If someone that you had an emotional connection made a mistake and died for it I would imagine that you would still feel empathy for him and his family. That is what people on here our doing realizing that death is complicated and there are many varying emotions that people expierence with it.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 6:41pm #1067518
WinterSoldierParticipantNobody is blaming anyone. The kid made a mistake and paid with his life its a sad way to end a life. If someone that you had an emotional connection made a mistake and died for it I would imagine that you would still feel empathy for him and his family. That is what people on here our doing realizing that death is complicated and there are many varying emotions that people expierence with it.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 3:46am #1067594

goldie92689ParticipantYou are an ass. Im guessing no one loves you and I will assume its your fault,
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 3:46am #1067716

goldie92689ParticipantYou are an ass. Im guessing no one loves you and I will assume its your fault,
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:24am #1067410
FuqdatassParticipantAfter reading the initial report, it doesn’t seem like he knew the owner of the apartment. In the event that people try using the argument that BDJ was just playing a prank on a friend, or something along those lines. Maybe that was the case, but from the initial report, it doesn’t sound like it. Inb4 another idiot tries to argue my logic and not accept the facts.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 12:28pm #1067331

SmooveKRYPTParticipantHe was at his girlfriend/baby mother’s apartment complex and was on the wrong floor thinking he was locked out of her place. Still not a great decision kicking a door down, but I highly doubt a dude who just got his first NBA contract is breaking into some random dude’s apt by himself on purpose.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 12:28pm #1067452

SmooveKRYPTParticipantHe was at his girlfriend/baby mother’s apartment complex and was on the wrong floor thinking he was locked out of her place. Still not a great decision kicking a door down, but I highly doubt a dude who just got his first NBA contract is breaking into some random dude’s apt by himself on purpose.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 1:17pm #1067345

ChoppyParticipantSomething is off in the story. If he thought it was his girlfriends apartment, why kick the door down? And following that, why kick the bedroom door down? Something is fishy. More details definitely are going to come out.
I don’t want to make this a political piece and I’ll probably get negs, but if the apartment owner didn’t have a gun, would he still be alive? Other countries that strictly legislate gun ownership just don’t have these sorts of issues. They happen occasionally (eg intruder beaten to death) but much less frequently.
Whatever the reason why Bryce was there, it is a shame that a 23yo has lost his life.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 1:19pm #1067347

llperezIf the apartment owner didn’t have a gun he might be the one dead.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 1:19pm #1067468

llperezIf the apartment owner didn’t have a gun he might be the one dead.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 2:15pm #1067358

DukeDaSquadParticipantHe probably thought his girlfriend was cheating on him and was trying to catch her in the act.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 2:15pm #1067480

DukeDaSquadParticipantHe probably thought his girlfriend was cheating on him and was trying to catch her in the act.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 3:06pm #1067387

Scrooge McDuckParticipantGun ownership is a personal choice… lol calling him "Bryce" as if you knew him.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 3:56pm #1067544

ChoppyParticipantWhat was I supposed to call him? On these boards if I talk about LeBron, I use his first name. Not like we’re best friends or anything. What should I have called him? Mr Dejean-Jones?
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 3:56pm #1067421

ChoppyParticipantWhat was I supposed to call him? On these boards if I talk about LeBron, I use his first name. Not like we’re best friends or anything. What should I have called him? Mr Dejean-Jones?
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 3:06pm #1067509

Scrooge McDuckParticipantGun ownership is a personal choice… lol calling him "Bryce" as if you knew him.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 6:45pm #1067520
WinterSoldierParticipantIf you were asleep in bed and you heard someone kicking down your door I bet you would wish you had a gun at that time.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 6:45pm #1067642
WinterSoldierParticipantIf you were asleep in bed and you heard someone kicking down your door I bet you would wish you had a gun at that time.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 1:17pm #1067466

ChoppyParticipantSomething is off in the story. If he thought it was his girlfriends apartment, why kick the door down? And following that, why kick the bedroom door down? Something is fishy. More details definitely are going to come out.
I don’t want to make this a political piece and I’ll probably get negs, but if the apartment owner didn’t have a gun, would he still be alive? Other countries that strictly legislate gun ownership just don’t have these sorts of issues. They happen occasionally (eg intruder beaten to death) but much less frequently.
Whatever the reason why Bryce was there, it is a shame that a 23yo has lost his life.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 3:36pm #1067525

HitsterParticipantGreat shame he is dead, something doesn’t add up in this story. As a UK citizen I’m keeping well out of the US Gun Ownership debate.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 3:36pm #1067403

HitsterParticipantGreat shame he is dead, something doesn’t add up in this story. As a UK citizen I’m keeping well out of the US Gun Ownership debate.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 3:57pm #1067548

ChoppyParticipantI didn’t stay out of it. Negs be damned!
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 3:57pm #1067425

ChoppyParticipantI didn’t stay out of it. Negs be damned!
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 6:53pm #1067526
Hype MachineLol yeah trying to ask Americans to put down their guns is a pointless exercise.
But their country…..their rules. Seems beyond absurd to me…but Im just glad I can make a mistake and not have to die for it.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 6:53pm #1067648
Hype MachineLol yeah trying to ask Americans to put down their guns is a pointless exercise.
But their country…..their rules. Seems beyond absurd to me…but Im just glad I can make a mistake and not have to die for it.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 4:43pm #1067559
FuqdatassParticipantOk, apparently there r a ton of sensitive pussies in this site. @SportsNinja, while I did not explain how u were wrong smartass (I’ll give u that), I do disagree at how u told me to "hold off on judgement."If u actually read my post carefully I never made any judgements or any assumptions. I specifically said that we will find out more details later, since there weren’t much details earlier. @Dukedasquad, while maybe u feel sorry for the guy I don’t. I do think it’s a shame that he chose to be an idiot and break into a stranger’s apartment, that doesn’t mean I feel sympathetic towards him. Rather, I feel like it’s a shame that he put himself in that situation. But I don’t feel sympathy at his actions and how HE RESPONDED to that situation. It’s not being insensitive, it’s simply looking at the situation and the present clues and then coming to an appropriate conclusion that suits u personally. Its laughable that some of y’all r being judgemental TOWARDS ME and negging me cause y’all can’t handle my opinion. It’s ok to feel some shame for BDJ’s dumbass actions but at the end of the day, he was completely in the wrong and REGARDLESS OF WHY HE CHOSE TO BREAK INTO THE APARTMENT, he should have exercised better caution and manners, and chosen a different course of action that did not include simply breaking in. In case ur wondering, I wrote in all caps so that u sensitive motherfuckers actually absorb the info I’m writing down. Now if I keep getting negged, I’m just gonna assume that it’s cause of the trolls cause no rational and logical person will neg or disagree with what I just said. Some of y’all need to grow some balls cause frankly, it’s embarrassing. I’m the best poster here and I am a winner ok. Don’t hesitate to reply to me, but only if u aren’t gonna get butthurt. Inb4 y’all try distorting what I said and frame me as the one who is butthurt
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 4:43pm #1067437
FuqdatassParticipantOk, apparently there r a ton of sensitive pussies in this site. @SportsNinja, while I did not explain how u were wrong smartass (I’ll give u that), I do disagree at how u told me to "hold off on judgement."If u actually read my post carefully I never made any judgements or any assumptions. I specifically said that we will find out more details later, since there weren’t much details earlier. @Dukedasquad, while maybe u feel sorry for the guy I don’t. I do think it’s a shame that he chose to be an idiot and break into a stranger’s apartment, that doesn’t mean I feel sympathetic towards him. Rather, I feel like it’s a shame that he put himself in that situation. But I don’t feel sympathy at his actions and how HE RESPONDED to that situation. It’s not being insensitive, it’s simply looking at the situation and the present clues and then coming to an appropriate conclusion that suits u personally. Its laughable that some of y’all r being judgemental TOWARDS ME and negging me cause y’all can’t handle my opinion. It’s ok to feel some shame for BDJ’s dumbass actions but at the end of the day, he was completely in the wrong and REGARDLESS OF WHY HE CHOSE TO BREAK INTO THE APARTMENT, he should have exercised better caution and manners, and chosen a different course of action that did not include simply breaking in. In case ur wondering, I wrote in all caps so that u sensitive motherfuckers actually absorb the info I’m writing down. Now if I keep getting negged, I’m just gonna assume that it’s cause of the trolls cause no rational and logical person will neg or disagree with what I just said. Some of y’all need to grow some balls cause frankly, it’s embarrassing. I’m the best poster here and I am a winner ok. Don’t hesitate to reply to me, but only if u aren’t gonna get butthurt. Inb4 y’all try distorting what I said and frame me as the one who is butthurt
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 5:40pm #1067593
ph90702$1,000,000 talent and $0.01 brain.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 5:40pm #1067472
ph90702$1,000,000 talent and $0.01 brain.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 5:50pm #1067602

Scrooge McDuckParticipantWhen is breaking into an appartment ever a civilized thing to do? Paricularly when you are "living the life".
I can’t imagine a world where guns exist that no one is allowed to use.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 5:50pm #1067479

Scrooge McDuckParticipantWhen is breaking into an appartment ever a civilized thing to do? Paricularly when you are "living the life".
I can’t imagine a world where guns exist that no one is allowed to use.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 6:10pm #1067624

ChoppyParticipantYou don’t need to imagine! Go to Australia, UK, New Zealand. You know, anywhere but the US of A.
Agree though. Breaking in isn’t a civilised thing to do. And he should have known that every second person has a gun and they’re prepared to use them.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 6:10pm #1067501

ChoppyParticipantYou don’t need to imagine! Go to Australia, UK, New Zealand. You know, anywhere but the US of A.
Agree though. Breaking in isn’t a civilised thing to do. And he should have known that every second person has a gun and they’re prepared to use them.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 7:05pm #1067524

Scrooge McDuckParticipantPsychologically your better off choosing the right thing because its the right thing.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 7:05pm #1067646

Scrooge McDuckParticipantPsychologically your better off choosing the right thing because its the right thing.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 7:02pm #1067531

llperezI don’t own a gun and I’m by no means a gun nut, but I believe a mans home is his sacred place and he has the right to protect it. You break into my house at 3am and try breaking down my door, I would absolutely shoot first and ask questions later if I could. In reality some kind of advanced tazer that immobilized the target without killing them would be best.
0- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:17pm #1067562

Mr. HookShotParticipantOk, I cannot restrain myself from not responding. The entire idea of having a gun to protect yourself results in criminals becoming more violent (read: larger guns, multiple people with guns) as well. If a criminal, who is a desperate person else he wouldn’t try to break into my house in the first place, enters a house knowing he might get shot he will bring a gun as well. And in all honesty, I wouldn’t want to get caught in a gun fight with anyone, let alone someone desperate enought to break in into my house. Now I know there are large differences between the US and Europe, so maybe you guys need your gun-law as it is, but I’m glad I’m living in Europe for that matter.
0 - Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 11:17pm #1067684

Mr. HookShotParticipantOk, I cannot restrain myself from not responding. The entire idea of having a gun to protect yourself results in criminals becoming more violent (read: larger guns, multiple people with guns) as well. If a criminal, who is a desperate person else he wouldn’t try to break into my house in the first place, enters a house knowing he might get shot he will bring a gun as well. And in all honesty, I wouldn’t want to get caught in a gun fight with anyone, let alone someone desperate enought to break in into my house. Now I know there are large differences between the US and Europe, so maybe you guys need your gun-law as it is, but I’m glad I’m living in Europe for that matter.
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- Posted on: Sat, 05/28/2016 - 7:02pm #1067653

llperezI don’t own a gun and I’m by no means a gun nut, but I believe a mans home is his sacred place and he has the right to protect it. You break into my house at 3am and try breaking down my door, I would absolutely shoot first and ask questions later if I could. In reality some kind of advanced tazer that immobilized the target without killing them would be best.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 4:54am #1067605
brodiejayParticipantThis story is absolutely ludicrous to anyone outside the US. Seriously USA… It’s a pretty simple equation.
I’m Australian, so there’s a pretty handy example right there. We used to have guns. Then we had a horrible mass-shooting. Then we brought in gun laws. Since we introduced the gun laws, mass-shootings have miraculously dropped to exactly ZERO EVER SINCE THE LAWS WERE INTRODUCED.
I don’t feel the need to own a gun because I know I’m not going to get shot at. I also know having a gun in my home would MASSIVELY INCREASE the risk of homicide, suicide, and accidentally getting shot in the face with a gun.
It’s 2016 America! Why is this still happening over and over and over again in a supposedly advanced, intelligent culture? There’s even very clear data in your own country. US States with more guns have more… you guessed it… deaths by gun! And… deaths in general!
Now kids… this question is a little bit tricky… so I’ll say it slowly… if having guns is making people die by being shot, can anybody smart tell me something we could take away from people to stop them being shot by guns…?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 4:54am #1067727
brodiejayParticipantThis story is absolutely ludicrous to anyone outside the US. Seriously USA… It’s a pretty simple equation.
I’m Australian, so there’s a pretty handy example right there. We used to have guns. Then we had a horrible mass-shooting. Then we brought in gun laws. Since we introduced the gun laws, mass-shootings have miraculously dropped to exactly ZERO EVER SINCE THE LAWS WERE INTRODUCED.
I don’t feel the need to own a gun because I know I’m not going to get shot at. I also know having a gun in my home would MASSIVELY INCREASE the risk of homicide, suicide, and accidentally getting shot in the face with a gun.
It’s 2016 America! Why is this still happening over and over and over again in a supposedly advanced, intelligent culture? There’s even very clear data in your own country. US States with more guns have more… you guessed it… deaths by gun! And… deaths in general!
Now kids… this question is a little bit tricky… so I’ll say it slowly… if having guns is making people die by being shot, can anybody smart tell me something we could take away from people to stop them being shot by guns…?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 7:37am #1067639
SportsNinjaParticipantUS gun laws are not just about protection from other members of the public. The second amendment is about the security of a free state. Even with our freedoms dwindling, the US still seems more free than Aus or many EU countries.
0- Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 10:05pm #1067869

tblazer_NZParticipantYou are way off. Last year the USA was 20th, Chile was even higher. NZ 5th, Australia 7th and 14 EU countries are ahead of the USA.
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 10:05pm #1067748

tblazer_NZParticipantYou are way off. Last year the USA was 20th, Chile was even higher. NZ 5th, Australia 7th and 14 EU countries are ahead of the USA.
0- Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 11:54pm #1067877
SportsNinjaParticipantWhat are you talking about? 20th in what? Nothing I said can be ranked.
I don’t mean to be mean, but I really wish some of you would read before replying to stuff. This is the third reply to one of my posts (2 were by that guy that might be trolling because he seems like a complete idiot) that makes no sense. READ what people write before replying. 20th in what? 20th in freedom? You can’t rank freedom, so you must be talking about something else. But there’s nothing else I said that implied I would rank the US ahead of anyone else.
I love discussion and different points of view, but how do I have a serious conversation with these responses?
0 - Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 11:54pm #1067756
SportsNinjaParticipantWhat are you talking about? 20th in what? Nothing I said can be ranked.
I don’t mean to be mean, but I really wish some of you would read before replying to stuff. This is the third reply to one of my posts (2 were by that guy that might be trolling because he seems like a complete idiot) that makes no sense. READ what people write before replying. 20th in what? 20th in freedom? You can’t rank freedom, so you must be talking about something else. But there’s nothing else I said that implied I would rank the US ahead of anyone else.
I love discussion and different points of view, but how do I have a serious conversation with these responses?
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- Posted on: Sun, 05/29/2016 - 7:37am #1067761
SportsNinjaParticipantUS gun laws are not just about protection from other members of the public. The second amendment is about the security of a free state. Even with our freedoms dwindling, the US still seems more free than Aus or many EU countries.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/30/2016 - 6:33am #1067802

Bad DogParticipantI understand a lot of people on here have different opinions about gun ownership and although we may disagree on some things, we all want the same thing which is to live in a safe society. I have a wife and two little kids to look out for. If I heard my door getting kicked down in the middle of the night it’s going to be a bad night for that individual because I keep my shotgun close by. Truth is, I’m not a big fan of guns because they are basically designed for the sole purpose of killing and I only own a gun because of where I live (SF bay area). I believe people should have the right to arm themselves for practicaly reasons such as protection or food but not for recreation (i.e. assualt riffles serve no practical purpose). Although strict gun laws may work in some countries, it doesn’t mean it’ll work in others, specifically the USA. In the US, the secondary gun market is so saturated with firearms it would be near impossible to enforce any type of major reform that would restrict gun ownership since no one really nows for sure how many guns are out there. We’re talking possibly tens of millions of firearms out there that anyone can get their hands on. So, when a pro-gun individual states gun related crimes are commited with guns obtained illegally or in some shady way, they are actually mostly correct. And before anyone brings up stats, keep in mind that gun related crimes are different from gun related deaths. In the US, 60% of gun related deaths are suicides with guns purchased legally so the stats everyone always points to when arguing against gun ownership are skewered a bit. The truth is stricter gun control looks good if you’re running for office (depending on your political party), but in the USA, the reality is it’s the equivilent to putting a bandaid on a rattlesnake bite.
0 - Posted on: Mon, 05/30/2016 - 6:33am #1067923

Bad DogParticipantI understand a lot of people on here have different opinions about gun ownership and although we may disagree on some things, we all want the same thing which is to live in a safe society. I have a wife and two little kids to look out for. If I heard my door getting kicked down in the middle of the night it’s going to be a bad night for that individual because I keep my shotgun close by. Truth is, I’m not a big fan of guns because they are basically designed for the sole purpose of killing and I only own a gun because of where I live (SF bay area). I believe people should have the right to arm themselves for practicaly reasons such as protection or food but not for recreation (i.e. assualt riffles serve no practical purpose). Although strict gun laws may work in some countries, it doesn’t mean it’ll work in others, specifically the USA. In the US, the secondary gun market is so saturated with firearms it would be near impossible to enforce any type of major reform that would restrict gun ownership since no one really nows for sure how many guns are out there. We’re talking possibly tens of millions of firearms out there that anyone can get their hands on. So, when a pro-gun individual states gun related crimes are commited with guns obtained illegally or in some shady way, they are actually mostly correct. And before anyone brings up stats, keep in mind that gun related crimes are different from gun related deaths. In the US, 60% of gun related deaths are suicides with guns purchased legally so the stats everyone always points to when arguing against gun ownership are skewered a bit. The truth is stricter gun control looks good if you’re running for office (depending on your political party), but in the USA, the reality is it’s the equivilent to putting a bandaid on a rattlesnake bite.
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