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  • #63568
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     watching youtube videos and being alive to see games are two very different things. 

    Anyone in their 40s plus, and can malke comparisons to:

    B. Mcadoo

    B. Cunnigham

    A. English

    A, Dantley

    W unseld

    J lucas

    I have my own opinions, just wondering others who have seen them in their eras.. 

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #1058895
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     (based on the nba draft game)

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     (based on the nba draft game)

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  • #1059073
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     David thompson and Nate Thurmond

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     David thompson and Nate Thurmond

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  • #1059097
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    R y’all talking about who the player compared to? 

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    R y’all talking about who the player compared to? 

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  • #1059173
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     McAdoo was also a big time actor in the 70s !! He starred in the hit show Sanford & Son with Redd Foxx !!! McAdoo played Lamont!!!

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     McAdoo was also a big time actor in the 70s !! He starred in the hit show Sanford & Son with Redd Foxx !!! McAdoo played Lamont!!!

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    The Underground Basketball Mine published a special edition for the 2008 draft and 1 of the writers compared Kevin Love to Unseld!!!!! He was referring that love’s rebounding ability and outlet passing was similar to Unseld!!!!!!!! Wes was a much much better defender tho!!!!!

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  • #1059056
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    The Underground Basketball Mine published a special edition for the 2008 draft and 1 of the writers compared Kevin Love to Unseld!!!!! He was referring that love’s rebounding ability and outlet passing was similar to Unseld!!!!!!!! Wes was a much much better defender tho!!!!!

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    • #1061990
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       Wes was a great rebounder and outlet passer but offensively he wasn’t even close to Love!!!

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    • #1061868
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       Wes was a great rebounder and outlet passer but offensively he wasn’t even close to Love!!!

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  • #1059098
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     I was born in 1950, so I’ve seen NBA players from the late 50’s , 60’s, and to the present and it is really hard to compare players of 40 and 50 yrs ago to players of today. I think the players of today’s are much better athletes than those of the 60’s, & 70’s , players today work out harder, use weight training and a meriad of other things to enhance their games. That does mean I’d take a player of today over a player of the 70’s or 80’s etc but over all today’s players are better athletes. Example , I don’t know for sure who I like better as my all time center Jabbar, Olagowon,(sp) , or Shac, each have their strengths, Shac is so powerful, dominating, Jabbar great sky hook , Good defender, all time leading scorer , Hakeem great moves , shot blocker,  all were great scorers in their own right , I could say Wilt , he was dominating in his time but he didn’t play against as many good bigs as there are now.  I guess I’m saying there are more good players today and the game as a whole is better now. 

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  • #1059219
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     I was born in 1950, so I’ve seen NBA players from the late 50’s , 60’s, and to the present and it is really hard to compare players of 40 and 50 yrs ago to players of today. I think the players of today’s are much better athletes than those of the 60’s, & 70’s , players today work out harder, use weight training and a meriad of other things to enhance their games. That does mean I’d take a player of today over a player of the 70’s or 80’s etc but over all today’s players are better athletes. Example , I don’t know for sure who I like better as my all time center Jabbar, Olagowon,(sp) , or Shac, each have their strengths, Shac is so powerful, dominating, Jabbar great sky hook , Good defender, all time leading scorer , Hakeem great moves , shot blocker,  all were great scorers in their own right , I could say Wilt , he was dominating in his time but he didn’t play against as many good bigs as there are now.  I guess I’m saying there are more good players today and the game as a whole is better now. 

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  • #1059100
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     I was born in 1950, so I’ve seen NBA players from the late 50’s , 60’s, and to the present and it is really hard to compare players of 40 and 50 yrs ago to players of today. I think the players of today’s are much better athletes than those of the 60’s, & 70’s , players today work out harder, use weight training and a meriad of other things to enhance their games. That does mean I’d take a player of today over a player of the 70’s or 80’s etc but over all today’s players are better athletes. Example , I don’t know for sure who I like better as my all time center Jabbar, Olagowon,(sp) , or Shac, each have their strengths, Shac is so powerful, dominating, Jabbar great sky hook , Good defender, all time leading scorer , Hakeem great moves , shot blocker,  all were great scorers in their own right , I could say Wilt , he was dominating in his time but he didn’t play against as many good bigs as there are now.  I guess I’m saying there are more good players today and the game as a whole is better now. 

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  • #1059221
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     I was born in 1950, so I’ve seen NBA players from the late 50’s , 60’s, and to the present and it is really hard to compare players of 40 and 50 yrs ago to players of today. I think the players of today’s are much better athletes than those of the 60’s, & 70’s , players today work out harder, use weight training and a meriad of other things to enhance their games. That does mean I’d take a player of today over a player of the 70’s or 80’s etc but over all today’s players are better athletes. Example , I don’t know for sure who I like better as my all time center Jabbar, Olagowon,(sp) , or Shac, each have their strengths, Shac is so powerful, dominating, Jabbar great sky hook , Good defender, all time leading scorer , Hakeem great moves , shot blocker,  all were great scorers in their own right , I could say Wilt , he was dominating in his time but he didn’t play against as many good bigs as there are now.  I guess I’m saying there are more good players today and the game as a whole is better now. 

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  • #1059136
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    The 70s was before my time but the 80s was when I started closely following the game and here are a few names I’d like to throw out for those voting for the All-Time NBA draft. Players that haven’t made the HOF and many modern fans might not have heard of but should probably be considered for the top 150 players that will be drafted. 

    Mo Cheeks – Before he was a coach he was the tenacious floor general of the Sixers. A very good defender and passer, he was kind of like Rajon Rondo but with a better shot. 

    Reggie Theus – 6-7 guard who could play both PG and SG. Good scorer and playmaker.

    Walter Davis – High Scoring SG and SF, who could shoot the rock and had good handles. Long time Phoenix Sun, averaged at least 20 PPG in six seperate seasons. Career FG% of 51, FT% of 85, 18.9 PPG, 3.8 APG. 

    Sidney Moncrief – Terrific two way shooting guard, was considered one of the top players in the league for about a five year span. Skill and size wise not really comparable to Kawhi but in terms of how he impacted the game he was a lot like Leonard; the top perimeter defender in the league and also a highly effective scorer as well. 

    Jamaal Wilkes – Another really good two-way swingman, made a name for himself as an integral part of two championships with the Lakers (also won two more rings as a bench player with LA and as a rookie with the Warriors).

    Marques Johnson – Good all-around SF that wrapped up his career with averages of 20.1 PPG, 7 RPG and 3.6 APG. 

     

     

    Bobby Jones – a lockdown defensive forward who was also a solid offensive player, made 4 All-Star teams and 8 NBA All-Defensive first teams

    Mark Aguirre – powerfully build small forward with great touch around the basket. Six straight seasons with over 22 PPG, and a career PPG of 20 over a 923 game career. 

    Terry Cummings – One of the best power forwards of the 80s, averaged at least 19.8 PPG, for the first eight years of his career. Highly skilled in the low post and had a terrific face up game for a big man. 

    Tom Chambers – Another high scoring PF from the 80s. Was a fantastic dunker and shooter who routinely had huge games against the toughest of opponents. 

    Jack Sikma – one of the first sweet shooting centers. Was also a very good rebounder and a solid defender. 7 All-Star games in his career. Career averages of 15.6 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 3.2 APG, 46.4 FG% and 84.9 FT%.

    Mark Eaton – Massive big man (7-4, 290) was not just some stiff. Didn’t do anything on offense, but was a good rebounder and arguably the best shot blocker in NBA history. 2 time DPOY might be a good center for a team to grab in the fifth round.

    I have to go to bed but a few more names to come: Michael Ray Richardson, Fat Lever, Otis Birdsong, Rolando Blackman,  Dale Ellis, Ricky Pierce, Paul Pressey, Kiki Vandeweghe, Kelly Tripucka, Mike Mitchell, Michael Cooper, Buck Williams

     

     

     

     

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    • #1059146
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      Good list. I’ve thought for a while now that Sikma played in the wrong era – he would have thrived with today’s style of play.

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    • #1059267
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      Good list. I’ve thought for a while now that Sikma played in the wrong era – he would have thrived with today’s style of play.

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  • #1059257
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    ItsVictorOladipo
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    The 70s was before my time but the 80s was when I started closely following the game and here are a few names I’d like to throw out for those voting for the All-Time NBA draft. Players that haven’t made the HOF and many modern fans might not have heard of but should probably be considered for the top 150 players that will be drafted. 

    Mo Cheeks – Before he was a coach he was the tenacious floor general of the Sixers. A very good defender and passer, he was kind of like Rajon Rondo but with a better shot. 

    Reggie Theus – 6-7 guard who could play both PG and SG. Good scorer and playmaker.

    Walter Davis – High Scoring SG and SF, who could shoot the rock and had good handles. Long time Phoenix Sun, averaged at least 20 PPG in six seperate seasons. Career FG% of 51, FT% of 85, 18.9 PPG, 3.8 APG. 

    Sidney Moncrief – Terrific two way shooting guard, was considered one of the top players in the league for about a five year span. Skill and size wise not really comparable to Kawhi but in terms of how he impacted the game he was a lot like Leonard; the top perimeter defender in the league and also a highly effective scorer as well. 

    Jamaal Wilkes – Another really good two-way swingman, made a name for himself as an integral part of two championships with the Lakers (also won two more rings as a bench player with LA and as a rookie with the Warriors).

    Marques Johnson – Good all-around SF that wrapped up his career with averages of 20.1 PPG, 7 RPG and 3.6 APG. 

     

     

    Bobby Jones – a lockdown defensive forward who was also a solid offensive player, made 4 All-Star teams and 8 NBA All-Defensive first teams

    Mark Aguirre – powerfully build small forward with great touch around the basket. Six straight seasons with over 22 PPG, and a career PPG of 20 over a 923 game career. 

    Terry Cummings – One of the best power forwards of the 80s, averaged at least 19.8 PPG, for the first eight years of his career. Highly skilled in the low post and had a terrific face up game for a big man. 

    Tom Chambers – Another high scoring PF from the 80s. Was a fantastic dunker and shooter who routinely had huge games against the toughest of opponents. 

    Jack Sikma – one of the first sweet shooting centers. Was also a very good rebounder and a solid defender. 7 All-Star games in his career. Career averages of 15.6 PPG, 9.8 RPG, 3.2 APG, 46.4 FG% and 84.9 FT%.

    Mark Eaton – Massive big man (7-4, 290) was not just some stiff. Didn’t do anything on offense, but was a good rebounder and arguably the best shot blocker in NBA history. 2 time DPOY might be a good center for a team to grab in the fifth round.

    I have to go to bed but a few more names to come: Michael Ray Richardson, Fat Lever, Otis Birdsong, Rolando Blackman,  Dale Ellis, Ricky Pierce, Paul Pressey, Kiki Vandeweghe, Kelly Tripucka, Mike Mitchell, Michael Cooper, Buck Williams

     

     

     

     

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  • #1059142
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    Didn’t see everyone on your list, but saw a few of them play enough to have an opinion.

    I think the Unseld – Love comp is a horrible one. Honestly, nobody in the league today reminds me that much of Unseld. Maybe if Kevin Love had Russell Westbrook’s attitude, but otherwise not so much. You could call Mason Plumlee a (very) poor-man’s version I suppose?

    I see quite a bit of similarity between Dantley’s and James Harden’s games. Harden is better in most areas though.

    Alex English was like a weird cross between the Greek Freak & Rudy Gay – Rudy’s height, Giannas’ build, and a game that fell somewhere between the two.

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  • #1059263
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    Didn’t see everyone on your list, but saw a few of them play enough to have an opinion.

    I think the Unseld – Love comp is a horrible one. Honestly, nobody in the league today reminds me that much of Unseld. Maybe if Kevin Love had Russell Westbrook’s attitude, but otherwise not so much. You could call Mason Plumlee a (very) poor-man’s version I suppose?

    I see quite a bit of similarity between Dantley’s and James Harden’s games. Harden is better in most areas though.

    Alex English was like a weird cross between the Greek Freak & Rudy Gay – Rudy’s height, Giannas’ build, and a game that fell somewhere between the two.

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