[AderitoParticipant]

Its simple, players that should have won an award like MVP, Rookie Of the Year, Defensive Player of the Year, 6th Man of the year, etc. but were robbed or should have won it. Also, players that should have made an all star game/All NBA Teams but were robbed.

==> Shaquille O’Neal should have won the 2001 MVP, not Allen Iverson.

==> Josh Smith should’ve at least been in one All-Star game so far in his career.

==> Dirk Nowitzki should’ve won the 2006 MVP and not Steve Nash… He Took the Mavs to Win 60 Games (Suns won 54 games), He was the leader of the league in Win Shares, Win Shares Per 48 Minutes, Offensive Win Shares, Offensive Rating, Player Efficiency Rating, 7th in Points Per Game, 17th in Defensive Win Shares, 6th Defensive Rebounds, 14th in Total Rebounds, 16th in Rebounds per game, 7th in Value Over Replacement Player. His stats Raw Stats: 26.6 PTS, 9.0 TRB, 1.0 BLK, 2.8 AST, 0.7 STL, 48.0 FG%, 40.6 3PT%, 90.1 FT%.

==> Tyson Chandler should have been NBA All-Defensive First team in 2012.

==> Carmelo Anthony was robbed of his Rookie of the Year award which was given to Lebron James. Before everybody gets nuts Carmelo average 21.0 pts and 6 reb and led his team to the playoff and shot a better pct than lebron from the field, compared to Lebrons 20.9 and 5.5 rebs and no playoff appearance.

==> Michael Jordan should have won the 1997 MVP, not Karl Malone.

==> Yao Ming should have won Rookie of the Year in 2003 instead of Amar’e Stoudemire.

==> Dirk Nowitzki should’ve at least been in one NBA All-Defensive Team in his career. Especially in 2003 and 2005..
In 2003 he was 6th in Defensive Win Shares, 18th in Defensive Rating, 4th in Defensive Rebounds, 7th in Total Rebounds & Rebounds Per Game and 1.0 Blk & 1.4 STL per Game).
In 2005 he was 6th in Defensive Win Shares, 13th in Defensive Rating, 3rd in Defensive Rebounds, 9th in Total Rebounds & Rebounds Per Game, 18th in Blocks (1.5 Blk per Game) and 1.2 STL per Game.
From 2001 and 2010 he was always a top 20/25 player in Defensive Win Shares, Defensive Rating & always one of the top 5 in defensive rebounds & steals by a big man.

==> Stephen Curry should have been 2015 FMVP.

==> Phil Jackson should have been the Coach of the Year (many many many times) but in 2000 he was roobed… Doc Rivers won it with a 50% team record and didn’t make the playoffs while Jackson team had 67 wins (81.7% team record)…

==> Wilt Chamberlain was robbed of the MVP award in 1962. One of the worst award robberies in the history of American team sports. It was arguably the greatest regular season any NBA player has ever had.
The MVP was Bill Russell, he averaged 18.9 PPG, 4.5 APG, and 23.6 RPG.
Wilt that year averaged 50.4 PPG (a league record), 2.4 APG, and 25.7 RPG.

==> Lebron James should have won the 2011 MVP, not Derrick Rose.

==> Monta Ellis deserved to be an allstar in 2010 over Jason Kidd.

==> Stephen Curry deserved to be an allstar in 2013.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Kobe should have been the 2006 mvp, not Dirk. You can talk about advanced stats all you want, but the simple fact is Kobe was the best player in the league that year. He averaged over 35 ppg which is something no player has done since jordan in 1987 or done since. He scored 81 points in one game and 62 in three quarters in another. But more importantly, he led a Lakers team that started Luke walton, smush Parker and kwame brown to 45 wins and nearly upset the suns in the first round of the playoffs. It was one of the best seasons of modern era from a purely individual standpoint and the fact that he finished fourth in the mvp voting still doesn’t sit right with me.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Kobe should have been the 2006 mvp, not Dirk. You can talk about advanced stats all you want, but the simple fact is Kobe was the best player in the league that year. He averaged over 35 ppg which is something no player has done since jordan in 1987 or done since. He scored 81 points in one game and 62 in three quarters in another. But more importantly, he led a Lakers team that started Luke walton, smush Parker and kwame brown to 45 wins and nearly upset the suns in the first round of the playoffs. It was one of the best seasons of modern era from a purely individual standpoint and the fact that he finished fourth in the mvp voting still doesn’t sit right with me.

[AderitoParticipant]

And Dirk took Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Jerry Stackhouse, Devin Harris, Erick Dampier, DeSagana Diop, Adrian Griffin, Marquis Daniels, Keith Van Horn, Darrell Armstrong, Didier Ilunga-Mbenga and Josh Powell to win 60 games and a trip to the Finals.

[AderitoParticipant]

And Dirk took Jason Terry, Josh Howard, Jerry Stackhouse, Devin Harris, Erick Dampier, DeSagana Diop, Adrian Griffin, Marquis Daniels, Keith Van Horn, Darrell Armstrong, Didier Ilunga-Mbenga and Josh Powell to win 60 games and a trip to the Finals.

[herceg_bukuParticipant]

 There are a lot of mixed feelings about Kobe in general, one thing cant be denied he will be one of the greats. To be honest i think he got robbed of the MVP a few times in the mid to late 2000’s. He was absolutely dominant once Shaq left (yes they were losing), once he got his team together again he was so dominant and winning another 2 championships.

I feel he was robbed a few times.

 

[herceg_bukuParticipant]

 There are a lot of mixed feelings about Kobe in general, one thing cant be denied he will be one of the greats. To be honest i think he got robbed of the MVP a few times in the mid to late 2000’s. He was absolutely dominant once Shaq left (yes they were losing), once he got his team together again he was so dominant and winning another 2 championships.

I feel he was robbed a few times.

 

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 To be honest, I thought Kobe only really got "robbed" once (2006). Even the one that he won (2008) I thought was a toss-up between him and Chris Paul. He got royally screwed in 2006 though. At the time, the Colorado incident was still fresh in a lot of people’s minds and the Lakers just didn’t have the talent to be compete for a championship. What he did that season was incredible though.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 To be honest, I thought Kobe only really got "robbed" once (2006). Even the one that he won (2008) I thought was a toss-up between him and Chris Paul. He got royally screwed in 2006 though. At the time, the Colorado incident was still fresh in a lot of people’s minds and the Lakers just didn’t have the talent to be compete for a championship. What he did that season was incredible though.

[billhayes7Participant]

While you may argue that Iggy shouldn’t have won the Finals MVP this year, he absolutely should have won the Dunk Contest in 2006.  That was a sham

[billhayes7Participant]

While you may argue that Iggy shouldn’t have won the Finals MVP this year, he absolutely should have won the Dunk Contest in 2006.  That was a sham

[jaycee24Participant]

I don’t care how many games he lost in Orlando T Mac should of gotten an MVP although I think Shaq dominated that time frame so it may have been tough but yeah TMac in Orlando deserved a MVP at some point  

[jaycee24Participant]

I don’t care how many games he lost in Orlando T Mac should of gotten an MVP although I think Shaq dominated that time frame so it may have been tough but yeah TMac in Orlando deserved a MVP at some point  

[jaycee24Participant]

 Cmon now 2002-03 he had 32 5 and 5 with a 30 PER and no MVP that’s a crime

[jaycee24Participant]

 Cmon now 2002-03 he had 32 5 and 5 with a 30 PER and no MVP that’s a crime

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Saying Dirk should have made an all-defensive team just for his advanced stats is like saying Harden should as well this season. Dude, I’m a stats guys and I think that’s insane.

[King CaluchaParticipant]

Saying Dirk should have made an all-defensive team just for his advanced stats is like saying Harden should as well this season. Dude, I’m a stats guys and I think that’s insane.

[AderitoParticipant]

Read the ESPN article: "Believe it or not, Dirk plays good D" and Read the NBA.COM article: "Dirk Nowitzki Is A Great Defender"

[AderitoParticipant]

Read the ESPN article: "Believe it or not, Dirk plays good D" and Read the NBA.COM article: "Dirk Nowitzki Is A Great Defender"

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Rod Strickland babe. Should’ve made at least one all-star game especially with Washington. Dude’s a beast! Also CP3 shoulld’ve been MVP in 2007-2008. He carried that team to the semis, averaging 22, 11 and 3 per game at 50 percent shooting. Who else can do that today?? 

 

[Jr. ROXASParticipant]

Rod Strickland babe. Should’ve made at least one all-star game especially with Washington. Dude’s a beast! Also CP3 shoulld’ve been MVP in 2007-2008. He carried that team to the semis, averaging 22, 11 and 3 per game at 50 percent shooting. Who else can do that today?? 

 

[Bencelticsfan2346Participant]

 Mvp is given to the most valuable player and in 1962 bill Russell led the celtics to a 60-20 record and their 4th straight finals win and their fifth in six years wilt put up arguably the best individual season performance ever that will almost certainly never be topped(Oscar Robertson average a triple double this year so it’s close) his team went 49-31 and lost to the celtics in the conference finals wilt may have been the best individual player,but he wasn’t the most valuable or best team player.

ithink al Jefferson being a yearly all star snub is just crazy I think it may be because of his style of play that relies heavily on post moves that people don’t want to see in the all star game they want to see Kevin Durant, lebron, Blake griffin etc. doing crazy dunks but Jefferson has played a few all star and all NBA years and gotten snubbed.

[Bencelticsfan2346Participant]

 Mvp is given to the most valuable player and in 1962 bill Russell led the celtics to a 60-20 record and their 4th straight finals win and their fifth in six years wilt put up arguably the best individual season performance ever that will almost certainly never be topped(Oscar Robertson average a triple double this year so it’s close) his team went 49-31 and lost to the celtics in the conference finals wilt may have been the best individual player,but he wasn’t the most valuable or best team player.

ithink al Jefferson being a yearly all star snub is just crazy I think it may be because of his style of play that relies heavily on post moves that people don’t want to see in the all star game they want to see Kevin Durant, lebron, Blake griffin etc. doing crazy dunks but Jefferson has played a few all star and all NBA years and gotten snubbed.

[Bird_YearsParticipant]

 Ya the Dirk defensive stuff is ridiculous. Those advanced stats you’re throwing out are heavily affected by who’s on the floor with you. If you’re surrounded by defensive specialists, you look better by those stats

 

Monta Ellis doesn’t ever deserve any award other than the "he’s doing pretty well for himself considering he was drafted in the 2nd round" award

 

 

 

 

 

[Bird_YearsParticipant]

 Ya the Dirk defensive stuff is ridiculous. Those advanced stats you’re throwing out are heavily affected by who’s on the floor with you. If you’re surrounded by defensive specialists, you look better by those stats

 

Monta Ellis doesn’t ever deserve any award other than the "he’s doing pretty well for himself considering he was drafted in the 2nd round" award

 

 

 

 

 

[AderitoParticipant]

Read the ESPN article: Believe it or not, Dirk plays good D Read the NBA.COM article: Dirk Nowitzki Is A Great Defender

[AderitoParticipant]

Read the ESPN article: Believe it or not, Dirk plays good D Read the NBA.COM article: Dirk Nowitzki Is A Great Defender

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

 I’m going to be a bit old school for the MVP award but John Havlicek or Kareem should have won the MVP in 1973 instead of Dave Cowens. Cowens was an All-Star player on the best team in the league but he wasn’t the most valuable (or the most productive) player on his own team, Hondo was and he wasn’t more valuable to the Celtics than Kareem was to the Bucks and his numbers paled in comparison too.

I also find it a bit surprising the Jerry West never won an MVP, but his best statistical seasons were in years the Lakers didn’t dominate and it’s hard to win MVP in this league unless you’re on the best or second best regular season team. 

 

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

 I’m going to be a bit old school for the MVP award but John Havlicek or Kareem should have won the MVP in 1973 instead of Dave Cowens. Cowens was an All-Star player on the best team in the league but he wasn’t the most valuable (or the most productive) player on his own team, Hondo was and he wasn’t more valuable to the Celtics than Kareem was to the Bucks and his numbers paled in comparison too.

I also find it a bit surprising the Jerry West never won an MVP, but his best statistical seasons were in years the Lakers didn’t dominate and it’s hard to win MVP in this league unless you’re on the best or second best regular season team. 

 

 

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 Shawn Marion should have made an All-Defensive team, it’s absurd that he didn’t.

Monta Ellis should have made an All-Star game at some point (probably 2010).

Vince Carter should have made an ALL-NBA team during his New Jersey years.

I would have also liked to see Jermaine O’Neal win a DPOY

[Stephen A. BaylessParticipant]

 Shawn Marion should have made an All-Defensive team, it’s absurd that he didn’t.

Monta Ellis should have made an All-Star game at some point (probably 2010).

Vince Carter should have made an ALL-NBA team during his New Jersey years.

I would have also liked to see Jermaine O’Neal win a DPOY

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 All-NBA defense selections were pretty bad this year because DeAndre and CP3 won first team all D while in reality the clips Defense was average and Blake, barnes, and JJ aren’t even that bad. Davis really doesn’t get the credit he deserves on defense. He uses his length and lateral mobility to try to be involved in every defensive possession, and he led league in blocking.

First team: Davis, Draymond Green, Kawhi, Tony Allen, Conley and 2nd team should have been Gobert, Bogut, Giannis, Jimmy Butler, Avery Bradley

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 All-NBA defense selections were pretty bad this year because DeAndre and CP3 won first team all D while in reality the clips Defense was average and Blake, barnes, and JJ aren’t even that bad. Davis really doesn’t get the credit he deserves on defense. He uses his length and lateral mobility to try to be involved in every defensive possession, and he led league in blocking.

First team: Davis, Draymond Green, Kawhi, Tony Allen, Conley and 2nd team should have been Gobert, Bogut, Giannis, Jimmy Butler, Avery Bradley

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 Pippen also should have at least one DPOY.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 Pippen also should have at least one DPOY.

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 I think Dennis Rodman should have been an all-star in one of his Bulls seasons.  He only went to two ASG (as a member of the Pistons).

LeBron should have won the Finals MVP award this year.  

I can see the case for Iggy though.  But, now with Iggy, you think, ok, can this guy get to the HOF?  He is a great two way player, can fill a stat sheet, has a Finals MVP award, an Olympic gold medal and has been an all-star.  I think it sounds crazy, but why not?  I think it depends on how he closes out his career.  If he can get the 6th man award this year and a couple more titles with the Warriors I think he has a shot.  

Iggy is only 31 and he may be in the right (perfect) place at the right time.  The Bulls 3 peat got Rodman into the HOF even though he never made the All Star Team as a Bull and didn’t get a DPOY award there either.  His rebounding numbers didn’t reach his peak stats either.

Quick look at Iggy’s career stats:  13.95 points, 5.47 rebounds, 4.69 assists, 1.7 steals, 0.5 blocks.  Went to 1 all star game, the Finals MVP helps a TON, was on the All Rookie First Team, the Defensive 1st team once and the Defensive 2nd team twice.  He actually led the league in minutes played (and per game) one season.  FIBA World Championship gold medal in 2010 and Olympic gold medal in 2012.

If he retired today, he would probably be on the fence, AT BEST.  BUT, he is only 31 so I think he could play several more years.  I think he has a great shot at getting a Defensive 1st or 2nd team this upcoming season (reputation always helps), then he has a great shot at getting the 6th Man Award.  If he does that AND the Warriors repeat as champions then Iggy’s HOF candidacy is right on track if you take a look beyond conventional wisdom.  It always helps to be part of a dynasty and the Warriors have that look: Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, and Iggy as their BIG FOUR.

If, over the next couple of years, the Warriors get a 3peat, and Iggy gets a 6th man award, and two 1st team all defense then I think he is in.  And he would still only be 33 with some more minutes left in the tank.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 I think Dennis Rodman should have been an all-star in one of his Bulls seasons.  He only went to two ASG (as a member of the Pistons).

LeBron should have won the Finals MVP award this year.  

I can see the case for Iggy though.  But, now with Iggy, you think, ok, can this guy get to the HOF?  He is a great two way player, can fill a stat sheet, has a Finals MVP award, an Olympic gold medal and has been an all-star.  I think it sounds crazy, but why not?  I think it depends on how he closes out his career.  If he can get the 6th man award this year and a couple more titles with the Warriors I think he has a shot.  

Iggy is only 31 and he may be in the right (perfect) place at the right time.  The Bulls 3 peat got Rodman into the HOF even though he never made the All Star Team as a Bull and didn’t get a DPOY award there either.  His rebounding numbers didn’t reach his peak stats either.

Quick look at Iggy’s career stats:  13.95 points, 5.47 rebounds, 4.69 assists, 1.7 steals, 0.5 blocks.  Went to 1 all star game, the Finals MVP helps a TON, was on the All Rookie First Team, the Defensive 1st team once and the Defensive 2nd team twice.  He actually led the league in minutes played (and per game) one season.  FIBA World Championship gold medal in 2010 and Olympic gold medal in 2012.

If he retired today, he would probably be on the fence, AT BEST.  BUT, he is only 31 so I think he could play several more years.  I think he has a great shot at getting a Defensive 1st or 2nd team this upcoming season (reputation always helps), then he has a great shot at getting the 6th Man Award.  If he does that AND the Warriors repeat as champions then Iggy’s HOF candidacy is right on track if you take a look beyond conventional wisdom.  It always helps to be part of a dynasty and the Warriors have that look: Steph Curry, Klay Thompson, Draymond Green, and Iggy as their BIG FOUR.

If, over the next couple of years, the Warriors get a 3peat, and Iggy gets a 6th man award, and two 1st team all defense then I think he is in.  And he would still only be 33 with some more minutes left in the tank.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 Could Iggy make the 2016 Olympic team?  I know Carmelo is great in international play but he has had some lackluster moments — last season was a disaster and the ASG was an embarassment.  He can score but more mid range and high post.  The team will have plenty of offense with LeBron, Durant, Steph, Russ, CP3, and Klay Thompson then Anthony Davis, Blake, and Kevin Love at the 4/5 spots.

I would use Iggy as a defender/utility guy off the bench who can defend 4 positions and run the offense from either forward spot.  If he bumps up his FT% and 3% a bit I can see him getting a look.

My 2016 would be:

Starters

PG Steph Curry

SG James Harden

SF Kevin Durant

PF LeBron James

C   Anthony Davis

Bench

PG Chris Paul

SG Russell Westbrook

SG Klay Thompson

PF Blake Griffin

C Chris Bosh

Reserves

SF Andre Iguodala

PF Kevin Love

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 Could Iggy make the 2016 Olympic team?  I know Carmelo is great in international play but he has had some lackluster moments — last season was a disaster and the ASG was an embarassment.  He can score but more mid range and high post.  The team will have plenty of offense with LeBron, Durant, Steph, Russ, CP3, and Klay Thompson then Anthony Davis, Blake, and Kevin Love at the 4/5 spots.

I would use Iggy as a defender/utility guy off the bench who can defend 4 positions and run the offense from either forward spot.  If he bumps up his FT% and 3% a bit I can see him getting a look.

My 2016 would be:

Starters

PG Steph Curry

SG James Harden

SF Kevin Durant

PF LeBron James

C   Anthony Davis

Bench

PG Chris Paul

SG Russell Westbrook

SG Klay Thompson

PF Blake Griffin

C Chris Bosh

Reserves

SF Andre Iguodala

PF Kevin Love

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 Could Iggy make the 2016 Olympic team?  I know Carmelo is great in international play but he has had some lackluster moments — last season was a disaster and the ASG was an embarassment.  He can score but more mid range and high post.  The team will have plenty of offense with LeBron, Durant, Steph, Russ, CP3, and Klay Thompson then Anthony Davis, Blake, and Kevin Love at the 4/5 spots.

I would use Iggy as a defender/utility guy off the bench who can defend 4 positions and run the offense from either forward spot.  If he bumps up his FT% and 3% a bit I can see him getting a look.

My 2016 would be:

Starters

PG Steph Curry

SG James Harden

SF Kevin Durant

PF LeBron James

C   Anthony Davis

Bench

PG Chris Paul

SG Russell Westbrook

SG Klay Thompson

PF Blake Griffin

C Chris Bosh

Reserves

SF Andre Iguodala

PF Kevin Love

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[Memphis MadnessParticipant]

 Could Iggy make the 2016 Olympic team?  I know Carmelo is great in international play but he has had some lackluster moments — last season was a disaster and the ASG was an embarassment.  He can score but more mid range and high post.  The team will have plenty of offense with LeBron, Durant, Steph, Russ, CP3, and Klay Thompson then Anthony Davis, Blake, and Kevin Love at the 4/5 spots.

I would use Iggy as a defender/utility guy off the bench who can defend 4 positions and run the offense from either forward spot.  If he bumps up his FT% and 3% a bit I can see him getting a look.

My 2016 would be:

Starters

PG Steph Curry

SG James Harden

SF Kevin Durant

PF LeBron James

C   Anthony Davis

Bench

PG Chris Paul

SG Russell Westbrook

SG Klay Thompson

PF Blake Griffin

C Chris Bosh

Reserves

SF Andre Iguodala

PF Kevin Love

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[TRC1991Participant]

Elgin Baylor not winning the MVP in 1961 when he averaged 35 points, 20 boards, and 5 assists

(Bill Russell won it after averaged 17 points, 24 rebounds)

Dirk Nowitzki making the 2015 all-star game over DeAndre Jordan was a crime

(Dirk averaged 18 and 6, DJ averaged 13 and 15)

McGrady not winning the MVP in 2003

(Duncan was great, but McGrady was legendary that year)

Nash winning 2 MVPs when Kobe only has 1

 

 

 

 

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Elgin Baylor not winning the MVP in 1961 when he averaged 35 points, 20 boards, and 5 assists

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His team went 36-43. Players on teams with losing records never seem to be legit candidates for MVP. I might consider Wilt the bigger snub that year, averaged 38.4 PPG, 27.2 RPG and his team won ten more games.

 

 

 

 

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Elgin Baylor not winning the MVP in 1961 when he averaged 35 points, 20 boards, and 5 assists

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His team went 36-43. Players on teams with losing records never seem to be legit candidates for MVP. I might consider Wilt the bigger snub that year, averaged 38.4 PPG, 27.2 RPG and his team won ten more games.

 

 

 

 

[TRC1991Participant]

Elgin Baylor not winning the MVP in 1961 when he averaged 35 points, 20 boards, and 5 assists

(Bill Russell won it after averaged 17 points, 24 rebounds)

Dirk Nowitzki making the 2015 all-star game over DeAndre Jordan was a crime

(Dirk averaged 18 and 6, DJ averaged 13 and 15)

McGrady not winning the MVP in 2003

(Duncan was great, but McGrady was legendary that year)

Nash winning 2 MVPs when Kobe only has 1

 

 

 

 

 

[BallGawd01Participant]

First JKidd should have gotten MVP in 2002, not Tim Duncan. Kidd took a team whose 2nd best player was Kenyon Martin to the finals. The Nets had done nothing before the arrival of Kidd and have been bad ever since he left. So I think JKidd should have gotten MVP in 2002.

Second. How in God’s name does Kobe only have 1 MVP. How does Steve Nash have more MVPs than Kobe smh. It makes no sense, and it just goes to show how the MVP is a media award. Kobe’s never really truly been liked by the media, which is why the constantly shit on him now, and explains why he only won 1 mvp, when there were clearly seasons in which he probably should have won it (02-03 and 05-06 come to mind). Someone stated that the "Rape" allegation could have robbed him of an MVP, which is true, but I think the fact that everyone believed Kobe was the reason Shaq left had a greater impact on his perception in the media. It was then that people started calling people selfish and a ball-hog, etc. Now that Kobe’s old and has one foot out the door already, people are saying no one wants to play with him, which is a load of shit because Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom liked playing with him, Ron Artest was Kobe’s long time enemy, and he went to the Lakers anyway because he knew Kobe gave him the best opportunity to win. All those people that "don’t want to play with him" are probaly never gonna win anyway. Everyone knows Kobe should have more than 1 MVP and its a major injustise that he doesn’t.  

  

[BallGawd01Participant]

First JKidd should have gotten MVP in 2002, not Tim Duncan. Kidd took a team whose 2nd best player was Kenyon Martin to the finals. The Nets had done nothing before the arrival of Kidd and have been bad ever since he left. So I think JKidd should have gotten MVP in 2002.

Second. How in God’s name does Kobe only have 1 MVP. How does Steve Nash have more MVPs than Kobe smh. It makes no sense, and it just goes to show how the MVP is a media award. Kobe’s never really truly been liked by the media, which is why the constantly shit on him now, and explains why he only won 1 mvp, when there were clearly seasons in which he probably should have won it (02-03 and 05-06 come to mind). Someone stated that the "Rape" allegation could have robbed him of an MVP, which is true, but I think the fact that everyone believed Kobe was the reason Shaq left had a greater impact on his perception in the media. It was then that people started calling people selfish and a ball-hog, etc. Now that Kobe’s old and has one foot out the door already, people are saying no one wants to play with him, which is a load of shit because Pau Gasol and Lamar Odom liked playing with him, Ron Artest was Kobe’s long time enemy, and he went to the Lakers anyway because he knew Kobe gave him the best opportunity to win. All those people that "don’t want to play with him" are probaly never gonna win anyway. Everyone knows Kobe should have more than 1 MVP and its a major injustise that he doesn’t.  

  

[Sharp ShooterParticipant]

 tayshaun prince being snubbed from the 06 all star team. That was high way robbery

[Sharp ShooterParticipant]

 tayshaun prince being snubbed from the 06 all star team. That was high way robbery

[ipowersParticipant]

 Jason Kidd in 2002 not winning MVP is the most obvious error to me

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Idk. Duncan’s stat line (26 ppg, 13 rpg, 4 apg, 3 bpg) was pretty impressive that year. It was probably the best individual season of his career. That spurs team was not that talented and featured Duncan, a rookie tony Parker, and old David Robinson, old Steve Smith, Bruce Bowen and pretty much a bunch of inconsequential role players, and they still won 58 games in a stacked western conference. Kidd no doubt rejuvenated the nets but the eastern conference was awful in those days and they wouldn’t have gone to 2 finals in they played in the west. I’m not downplaying what Kidd did for the nets in 2002, but you’d have a hard time convincing me he should have been mvp over Duncan.

[Dazzling Dunks and Basketball BloopersParticipant]

 Idk. Duncan’s stat line (26 ppg, 13 rpg, 4 apg, 3 bpg) was pretty impressive that year. It was probably the best individual season of his career. That spurs team was not that talented and featured Duncan, a rookie tony Parker, and old David Robinson, old Steve Smith, Bruce Bowen and pretty much a bunch of inconsequential role players, and they still won 58 games in a stacked western conference. Kidd no doubt rejuvenated the nets but the eastern conference was awful in those days and they wouldn’t have gone to 2 finals in they played in the west. I’m not downplaying what Kidd did for the nets in 2002, but you’d have a hard time convincing me he should have been mvp over Duncan.

[ipowersParticipant]

 Jason Kidd in 2002 not winning MVP is the most obvious error to me

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