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- Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 12:58pm #36887

McDunkinDismissed from UCLA and after a sub-par five weeks playing professionally in Lithuania, Reeves Nelson’s basketball future remains uncertain. Where does Nelson go from here?
This has to be the first time in the history of basketball that a player went from gracing the cover of Sports Illustrated to showing up on the side of a milk carton all within a four-month span.
Welcome to Reeves Nelson’s world.
It’s easy to get caught up in the plethora of tattoos and sad storied antics surrounding his dismissal from the UCLA Bruins earlier this season and forget that Nelson’s basketball future is in a state of uncertainty that not even the NBA Draft on June 28 will solve.
He went from Los Angeles to Lithuania and back again in the course of five weeks; a taste of pro basketball overseas that the former Pac-12 star most likely will scoop up once again after this coming summer.
But how did it even get to this point where Nelson is M.I.A.?
How did the 6-foot-9 power forward go from drawing comparisons as a junior in some NBA circles to former Bruin and Minnesota Timberwolves all-star forward, Kevin Love, to a disappearing act on multiple mock draft boards?
Last season at UCLA, Nelson was the teams’ leading scorer (13.9 points per game) and rebounder (9.1) on his way to earning a first-team All-Pac-10 selection and eventually being featured on the cover of Sports Illustrated’s 2012 College Basketball preview issue. Sadly enough Nelson would make front page news for all the wrong reasons soon after the magazine dropped.
He was suspended for a game against Middle Tennessee State in November, missed the team flight to Maui for the Maui Invitational, was suspended for the first half of UCLA’s first round game against Chaminade, then was benched in the second half against Texas on Dec. 3.
A little over a week later, head coach Ben Howland had seen enough.
Nelson was officially dismissed from the program.
By course of his actions, Nelson was forced to grow up very fast leaving school at 20-years old. It’s rarely been a question about his on-court abilities, but Nelson’s mental mindset is a different story. He started working with this his former coach at Modesto Christian, Gary Porter, and prepared for his next move.
Would it be a wise one?
Speculation mounted then that Nelson would consider transferring schools, but money won out in the end in the decision process as Nelson and his family began talking with an unspecified team in Lithuania about playing overseas for the rest of the season. While Zalgiris Kaunas, Rudupis and Siauliai were all believed to be vying for Nelson’s services, the official announcement came three days before Christmas.
Zalgiris – with former Portland Trail Blazers Hall of Fame center Arvydas Sabonis serving as team president and boasting Sonny Weems at swing guard – waited until they made the Top 16 Euroleague cut before signing Nelson and at the time Zalgiris’ sporting director Vitoldas Masalskis wasn’t concerned with Nelson’s character issues at UCLA saying, "a basketball player is supposed to be fierce".
Being fierce is one thing.
Nelson’s stay in Kaunas was more farce-like unfortunately.
In seven games with Zalgiris, Nelson averaged 2.5 points, 3.3 rebounds in 10 minutes per game.
He shot 28 percent from the field, went 0 for 5 from beyond the arc, and shot 56% from the line. His best game (the above clip) came against BC Astana where Nelson finished with 7 points and 7 rebounds in 11 minutes, an outing that somehow contributed to fans around Lithuania voting him into the Lithuanian Basketball League All-Star game.
The final scouting report out of Lithuania: unimpressive and inconclusive.
"He spent only 61 minutes and 22 seconds playing for Zalgiris, spread through seven games that he actually came on the court", Simas Baranauskas, a featured writer for FIBA.com who also operatesLithuaniaBasketball.com and EuroStep.net, told Ridiculous Upside.
"You could see his athleticism, but generally, he hardly did anything on the court. Zalgiris was hoping to add size, but obviously that didn’t go too well, as it turned out that Nelson was shorter than they thought."
On January 31, Zalgiris released Nelson after spending five weeks in Lithuania.
The truth is, the team saw everything they needed to see of Nelson weeks prior.
Looking at two Euroleague games in mid-January that Zalgiris competed in can best summarize Nelson’s mediocre stint overseas. In an 84-76 loss to Maccabi Tel-Aviv, Nelson went scoreless with two rebounds in four minutes. After logging a DNP- Coach’s Decision against BC Nizhny Novgorod in VTB United League action, Nelson didn’t even travel with the team to Italy, with Zalgiris eventually losing to Bennet Cantu, 79-78.
And that’s where the discrepancy comes into play. That’s where not much growth has occurred on or off the court.
Probably knowing he wouldn’t play or would only receive a few spot minutes in Euroleague action, Nelson remained in Kaunas complaining he hurt his leg. Those close to the situation simply call Nelson’s bluff and inability to accompany the team on the trip. Instead, the common belief is the writing was on the wall for Nelson and his duration in Lithuania would be temporary.
So what are Nelson’s permanent basketball plans now?
Are pre-draft workouts part of the schedule? Can he expect an invite to summer league in Las Vegas or a D-League camp even?
Does a second chance at a first impression overseas become the back-up plan?
The mystery that is Reeves Nelson continues.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 1:02pm #642160

F_DA_POParticipantWhat’s this guys problem? Does he get into fights, do drugs or cuss out the coach or what? They never say what his deal is.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 1:48pm #642164
Krypt14ParticipantI think Lithuania probably wasn’t the best place to go for him. Culturally it’s a different world being a former Soviet Bloc nation and the language barrier would definitely be a problem. Somewhere like Spain, Italy, France or Germany would be a lot easier for an English speaker to adapt to. His previous history + a major language barrier was never going to make for an easy transition to playing pro ball.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 1:52pm #642166

JoeWolf1I watched him play early in the NCAA season against Kansas, and he looked really good, but you could tell the kid had issues with his attitude. His body language was awful, and when Kansas ran away with the W in the 2nd half he sulked.
He is a late 1st round talent, but I wouldn’t touch him before 50 this draft. You gotta wonder when someone acts so erradicly if they have a drug or alcohol problem.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 2:02pm #642167
juves4783Participanthe’s an undersized power forward with limited athleticism. throw in attitude problems and nobody is going to touch him. see jereme richmond of illinois as an example. should of thought twice before turning pro. could of called up drew gordon for advice. he got kicked off ucla, transferred and now lead new mexico to the top 25 and has people talking about taking him in the 2nd round.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 2:04pm #642168

FastAndFuriousParticipantEveryone deserves another chance.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 2:12pm #642171

Chilbert arenasParticipantThis guy has had a few chances youngdave, the guy is trash and will never learn.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 2:15pm #642173

FastAndFuriousParticipantMaybe so, but you never know what someone else is going through, it’s things that may have triggered why he’s been acting the way he has, not saying he’s right, but you never know someone else’s problem.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 2:47pm #642183

Taylor Gang MikeParticipantReeves can ball. He is lottery talent, he is a Paul Milsap, K Love/ D Lee type. but he prolly will be a undrafted FA, someone will take a chance, the kid is Gifted. trust me he will be in the NBA next season
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 2:50pm #642186

JNixonParticipantHe’s never been good enough to have the attitude he’s had. He’s not a lottery talent. He’s questionable as to whether he’s a 1st round talent honestly. He’s a 2nd round caliber player to me, always has been. And if you can even have a debate about if he is a late 1st round or 2nd round caliber player he isn’t good enough to have a bad attitude. Flat out.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 2:58pm #642188

FastAndFuriousParticipantNah, last year Reeves Nelson def looked lottery/first rounder.
IDK about this year, but he had a really good year last year.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 2:59pm #642189

Chilbert arenasParticipantNot a lottery pick by an stretch of the imagination, but the reason I really don’t like this guy is because how good he was at UCLA and how much he annoyed me when they play Arizona. That being said he’d have to be in the right situation where his attitude would be held in check.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 3:06pm #642190

JNixonParticipant"Nah, last year Reeves Nelson def looked lottery/first rounder."
Man I never had a single thought about Reeves Nelson being a lotto pick his Jr. year. There was a big chance he wouldn’t have gotten picked in the 1st round if he declared his Jr. year, he even thought about declaring early on and deciding against it.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 3:11pm #642195

TRC1991Participanthe was solid last year but his attitude is awful, hes an undersized power forward, and hes been known as a ball-hog. why on earth would any NBA team want this guy around?
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 3:12pm #642197

FastAndFuriousParticipantIf he would have done what was expected of him this year, he would have been a first round pick.
He improved from his Frosh year to SO. year, had he improved to the tune of let’s say 16-17 points 11-13 boards and led UCLA to the tourney you meaning to tell me you don’t think he would have went first round this year?
Fr. 11.1 PPG, 5.7 RPG
So. 13.9 PPG, 9.1 RPG
Jr year? He did post career lows, but we know he had problems, but if his head was on straight this year, he would have been a first round selection.
0 - Posted on: Tue, 02/28/2012 - 3:41pm #642207

llperezi wouldnt judge him based on his junior season since he only played a few games and was in and out the lineup. You have to go by his first two years. With that said, im a huge nelson fan and loved what he brought to the team. He was the heart and soul of the team and banged with the other teams toughest guys and had a vastly improved skill set his sophomore year. But he was never a lotto talent.At best a late first round talent as has been stated if that. He is only about 6-8. Hopefully he can get it turned around and find a spot in the nba.
And you know whats funny, reeves younger bro who was a te for the ucla football team was just kicked off the squad last month for violating team rules. Guys are knuckleheads.
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