[marcusfizer21Participant]

I took a part of his article that really caught my attention: In a salary-cap league, if you have James and Wade on your team, you don’t offer $110 million to Chris Bosh. You sprinkle that money around to role players who can play off those two guys.

"But Riley couldn’t do that, because all these guys were free agents together, and they all wanted to play together. Riley could not pick and choose. In order to get James, he needed Wade and Bosh. These three grew up in the star system of American basketball, and it is ingrained in their heads that stars are what matter. To that way of thinking, two stars are better than one and three are better than two. The other guys are just that: Other Guys. They are replaceable parts.

If James is paying attention, he should realize by now, the other guys do matter. The guys on the bench matter. The wide-eyed kids wearing oversized jerseys in the upper reaches of the arena matter. The yuppies paying too much money to sit courtside matter. The guys who got cut from the team matter, and the guys who played college ball but couldn’t get a sniff of the NBA matter, and the guys who sat on the bench for their high school teams matter. Without them, LeBron James is just a guy doing cool stuff against nobody in an empty gym, for nothing."

Read more: http://sportsillustrated.cnn.com/2010/writers/michael_rosenberg/11/23/lebron.hatred/index.html#ixzz16JdXWT6C

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Nothing is easier right now that to spew nonsense for all the reasons Miami is losing. The mix isn’t that bad. The problem isn’t Bosh. He is an easy whipping boy, but it isn’t fair. The team is still significantly better with those three than with two and sprinkles. Here is the problem, James Jones and Eddie House aren’t Mike Miller. Now, Mike Miller isn’t an earth altering talent, but there is a reason he is an expensive hired shooter and James Jones and Eddie House are available for the vet minimum. There is a reason that Wade, LeBron, and Bosh took less to make sure Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem were also able to be signed. For all the talk that these guys have this AAU mentality and that only stars matters, it ignores the fact that they subsidized the signings of Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. It isn’t their fault they got hurt. The two gunners they have out there now are getting nothing but open threes. In wins, Jones is hitting half of them, and in losses he is hitting 20 percent. House is hitting half in wins, and 32 percent in losses (which includes the 6-9 he was in the Memphis loss). Mike Miller is not going to be as sporadic. On the interior, the team has been better since shifting from Joel Anthony to Z. They’ll get even better as the platoon at the 5 becomes Z and Dampier. Z mandates the floor is spaced because he can knock down open 15-footers. Dampier can lean on Milsapp and Z-Bo. This is the time to kill the way in which the Heat were assembled because nobody is going to want to write that article in May. People can write the article about the Celtics being old and brittle in the winter, not the spring. Phil Jackson can take pot shots now, and he’ll probably do it later too, but that is why he is Phil Jackson. This is still the likely top seed in the East, and the mediocrity of November will soon be forgotten.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Nothing is easier right now that to spew nonsense for all the reasons Miami is losing. The mix isn’t that bad. The problem isn’t Bosh. He is an easy whipping boy, but it isn’t fair. The team is still significantly better with those three than with two and sprinkles. Here is the problem, James Jones and Eddie House aren’t Mike Miller. Now, Mike Miller isn’t an earth altering talent, but there is a reason he is an expensive hired shooter and James Jones and Eddie House are available for the vet minimum. There is a reason that Wade, LeBron, and Bosh took less to make sure Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem were also able to be signed. For all the talk that these guys have this AAU mentality and that only stars matters, it ignores the fact that they subsidized the signings of Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. It isn’t their fault they got hurt. The two gunners they have out there now are getting nothing but open threes. In wins, Jones is hitting half of them, and in losses he is hitting 20 percent. House is hitting half in wins, and 32 percent in losses (which includes the 6-9 he was in the Memphis loss). Mike Miller is not going to be as sporadic. On the interior, the team has been better since shifting from Joel Anthony to Z. They’ll get even better as the platoon at the 5 becomes Z and Dampier. Z mandates the floor is spaced because he can knock down open 15-footers. Dampier can lean on Milsapp and Z-Bo. This is the time to kill the way in which the Heat were assembled because nobody is going to want to write that article in May. People can write the article about the Celtics being old and brittle in the winter, not the spring. Phil Jackson can take pot shots now, and he’ll probably do it later too, but that is why he is Phil Jackson. This is still the likely top seed in the East, and the mediocrity of November will soon be forgotten.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Nothing is easier right now that to spew nonsense for all the reasons Miami is losing. The mix isn’t that bad. The problem isn’t Bosh. He is an easy whipping boy, but it isn’t fair. The team is still significantly better with those three than with two and sprinkles. Here is the problem, James Jones and Eddie House aren’t Mike Miller. Now, Mike Miller isn’t an earth altering talent, but there is a reason he is an expensive hired shooter and James Jones and Eddie House are available for the vet minimum. There is a reason that Wade, LeBron, and Bosh took less to make sure Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem were also able to be signed. For all the talk that these guys have this AAU mentality and that only stars matters, it ignores the fact that they subsidized the signings of Mike Miller and Udonis Haslem. It isn’t their fault they got hurt. The two gunners they have out there now are getting nothing but open threes. In wins, Jones is hitting half of them, and in losses he is hitting 20 percent. House is hitting half in wins, and 32 percent in losses (which includes the 6-9 he was in the Memphis loss). Mike Miller is not going to be as sporadic. On the interior, the team has been better since shifting from Joel Anthony to Z. They’ll get even better as the platoon at the 5 becomes Z and Dampier. Z mandates the floor is spaced because he can knock down open 15-footers. Dampier can lean on Milsapp and Z-Bo. This is the time to kill the way in which the Heat were assembled because nobody is going to want to write that article in May. People can write the article about the Celtics being old and brittle in the winter, not the spring. Phil Jackson can take pot shots now, and he’ll probably do it later too, but that is why he is Phil Jackson. This is still the likely top seed in the East, and the mediocrity of November will soon be forgotten.

[andxxxParticipant]

 I blame the coach more than the mix

[andxxxParticipant]

 I blame the coach more than the mix

[andxxxParticipant]

 I blame the coach more than the mix

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There’s also a reason Dampier is available at the vet minimum. IF they’re betting their money on him, they’re in trouble.

Miller is a great shooter (let’s see how he shoots coming off of surgery on his shooting hand), but I don’t think he’s going to keep the Rajon Rondos and Derrick Roses out of the lane or stop bigs from getting whatever they want in the paint. He’s not going solve the issue of LeBron and Wade not knowing how to play off of each other or being good on the floor together.

The mix isn’t that bad, but it certainly isn’t that good.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There’s also a reason Dampier is available at the vet minimum. IF they’re betting their money on him, they’re in trouble.

Miller is a great shooter (let’s see how he shoots coming off of surgery on his shooting hand), but I don’t think he’s going to keep the Rajon Rondos and Derrick Roses out of the lane or stop bigs from getting whatever they want in the paint. He’s not going solve the issue of LeBron and Wade not knowing how to play off of each other or being good on the floor together.

The mix isn’t that bad, but it certainly isn’t that good.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There’s also a reason Dampier is available at the vet minimum. IF they’re betting their money on him, they’re in trouble.

Miller is a great shooter (let’s see how he shoots coming off of surgery on his shooting hand), but I don’t think he’s going to keep the Rajon Rondos and Derrick Roses out of the lane or stop bigs from getting whatever they want in the paint. He’s not going solve the issue of LeBron and Wade not knowing how to play off of each other or being good on the floor together.

The mix isn’t that bad, but it certainly isn’t that good.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

There’s also a reason Dampier is available at the vet minimum. IF they’re betting their money on him, they’re in trouble.

Miller is a great shooter (let’s see how he shoots coming off of surgery on his shooting hand), but I don’t think he’s going to keep the Rajon Rondos and Derrick Roses out of the lane or stop bigs from getting whatever they want in the paint. He’s not going solve the issue of LeBron and Wade not knowing how to play off of each other or being good on the floor together.

The mix isn’t that bad, but it certainly isn’t that good.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

"There’s also a reason Dampier is available at the vet minimum. IF they’re betting their money on him, they’re in trouble."

They are betting on him being better than Joel Anthony. It is a good bet. He has been overpraised and overpaid, but Dampier has been a respectable NBA big for a decade. The only reason he did not have a job was the quirkiness of his past contract, which didn’t get settled until September. At that point, teams had already spent their cap money and assembled their training camp rosters.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

"There’s also a reason Dampier is available at the vet minimum. IF they’re betting their money on him, they’re in trouble."

They are betting on him being better than Joel Anthony. It is a good bet. He has been overpraised and overpaid, but Dampier has been a respectable NBA big for a decade. The only reason he did not have a job was the quirkiness of his past contract, which didn’t get settled until September. At that point, teams had already spent their cap money and assembled their training camp rosters.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

"There’s also a reason Dampier is available at the vet minimum. IF they’re betting their money on him, they’re in trouble."

They are betting on him being better than Joel Anthony. It is a good bet. He has been overpraised and overpaid, but Dampier has been a respectable NBA big for a decade. The only reason he did not have a job was the quirkiness of his past contract, which didn’t get settled until September. At that point, teams had already spent their cap money and assembled their training camp rosters.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

"They are betting on him being better than Joel Anthony. It is a good bet."

Looking at it from that perspective, it’s a very good bet.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

"They are betting on him being better than Joel Anthony. It is a good bet."

Looking at it from that perspective, it’s a very good bet.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

"They are betting on him being better than Joel Anthony. It is a good bet."

Looking at it from that perspective, it’s a very good bet.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

They must get more turnovers and rebound in order to run. That is not the coaches fault stop watching ESPN and paying attention to the non sense the media spews to get the results they want. If they get more rebounds,blocks and steals they can get out and run. With that being the case I still think they are too soft in the middle and it won’t get them past the Magic,Celtics. Must play better defense on a consistent bases in order to play their game.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

They must get more turnovers and rebound in order to run. That is not the coaches fault stop watching ESPN and paying attention to the non sense the media spews to get the results they want. If they get more rebounds,blocks and steals they can get out and run. With that being the case I still think they are too soft in the middle and it won’t get them past the Magic,Celtics. Must play better defense on a consistent bases in order to play their game.

[Meditated StatesParticipant]

They must get more turnovers and rebound in order to run. That is not the coaches fault stop watching ESPN and paying attention to the non sense the media spews to get the results they want. If they get more rebounds,blocks and steals they can get out and run. With that being the case I still think they are too soft in the middle and it won’t get them past the Magic,Celtics. Must play better defense on a consistent bases in order to play their game.

[andxxxParticipant]

 Im not blaming the coach for not getting them out in transition, Im blaming him for the way the offense has been playing and how they’re not playing with passion. This is not a bad defensive team when they put in effort, but lately because of the offensive struggles their defense has struggled as well.  Have you seen them on offense it is iso one of the big 3 and everyone stands around and watches, even spoelstra said they didn’t even work on offense because they felt they didnt need it when we all see now he was dead wrong

[andxxxParticipant]

 Im not blaming the coach for not getting them out in transition, Im blaming him for the way the offense has been playing and how they’re not playing with passion. This is not a bad defensive team when they put in effort, but lately because of the offensive struggles their defense has struggled as well.  Have you seen them on offense it is iso one of the big 3 and everyone stands around and watches, even spoelstra said they didn’t even work on offense because they felt they didnt need it when we all see now he was dead wrong

[andxxxParticipant]

 Im not blaming the coach for not getting them out in transition, Im blaming him for the way the offense has been playing and how they’re not playing with passion. This is not a bad defensive team when they put in effort, but lately because of the offensive struggles their defense has struggled as well.  Have you seen them on offense it is iso one of the big 3 and everyone stands around and watches, even spoelstra said they didn’t even work on offense because they felt they didnt need it when we all see now he was dead wrong

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

They weren’t dead wrong. People can criticize Mike Brown for how he handled LeBron, but more often than not the best offense with him on the floor is to get everyone else out of his way and let him react to how the defense collapses on him. It is similar with Dwyane Wade. I appreciate LeBron trying to go down to the block a bit this year, but it is readily apparent that he is not comfortable operating with his back to the basket. It is something he hasn’t done before. Until he develops that part of his game, the best offense for Miami will continue to be either Wade or LeBron in an iso or pick-and-roll with three other players spotted up. The only time those two are average NBA players is when they are taking jumpers, and that is what they become when the team tries to throw it to Bosh in the post or have Arroyo try to create.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

They weren’t dead wrong. People can criticize Mike Brown for how he handled LeBron, but more often than not the best offense with him on the floor is to get everyone else out of his way and let him react to how the defense collapses on him. It is similar with Dwyane Wade. I appreciate LeBron trying to go down to the block a bit this year, but it is readily apparent that he is not comfortable operating with his back to the basket. It is something he hasn’t done before. Until he develops that part of his game, the best offense for Miami will continue to be either Wade or LeBron in an iso or pick-and-roll with three other players spotted up. The only time those two are average NBA players is when they are taking jumpers, and that is what they become when the team tries to throw it to Bosh in the post or have Arroyo try to create.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

They weren’t dead wrong. People can criticize Mike Brown for how he handled LeBron, but more often than not the best offense with him on the floor is to get everyone else out of his way and let him react to how the defense collapses on him. It is similar with Dwyane Wade. I appreciate LeBron trying to go down to the block a bit this year, but it is readily apparent that he is not comfortable operating with his back to the basket. It is something he hasn’t done before. Until he develops that part of his game, the best offense for Miami will continue to be either Wade or LeBron in an iso or pick-and-roll with three other players spotted up. The only time those two are average NBA players is when they are taking jumpers, and that is what they become when the team tries to throw it to Bosh in the post or have Arroyo try to create.

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