[Knicksboy34Participant]

Jaravis Crittenton. I remember josh huestis saying this but I cannot find it.

Both were super hyped coming out of HS…6-5 PG and everyone thought the world of Crittenton..

What if Wall ends up like Crittenton?

[FrankBlackBoi]

i remember he was rated like 85 or 87 on nba live wow super hype coming out of hs

[Knicksboy34Participant]

85 or 87 on nba live

what year was this?

[Michael.S.Participant]

does this mean anything? if u cant see the difference between the 2 u are blind

[Knicksboy34Participant]

explain the difference to me…

[Michael.S.Participant]

ok thats like saying
LOL…Knicksboy34…I think I found someone who had the john wall hype and is good in the nba Derrick Rose
explain the difference between Rose and Javaris

[Knicksboy34Participant]

No…explain the difference between John Wall and Javaris Crittenton…

[notacowParticipant]

One has already shown he can’t, while the other still might.

[Michael.S.Participant]

u really want me to take 20 damn minutes out my life to explain the difference between JAVARIS CRITTENTON and JOHN WALL HAHAHAHAHA, weren’t u the guy who said we have to wait and see and stop arguing about Wall, and i said u have a hate obsession that u have to keep mentioning him , man what is ur problem? u like arguing with me?

[butidonthavemoney]

TRAVIS DIENER!

[auberParticipant]

Crittenton’s future in the league are at Shooting Guard and Washington is a great fit for him at this point in his career. He should stop trying to be a point guard and just focus on scoring.

[Knicksboy34Participant]

LOL…No, I like when you see someone not saying John Wall is the greatest PG in the NBA and you spazz….

The difference between Rose and Crittenton is size. Rose is wider then Crittenton. And I still think Brandon Jennings will be better because he whipped him before…

[Knicksboy34Participant]

you can’t just say that one guy had hype and didn’t pan out, therefore, wall won’t pan out.

I never said that….read my 3 lines again homeboy

[xbadgerhustlerParticipant]

Mikenike has a point… you can’t just say that one guy had hype and didn’t pan out, therefore, wall won’t pan out.

To say what’s the difference implies that they have TONS of similarities… Knicksboy, what similarities do u see? besides the hype? you prove they are undeniably similar, then mikenike will have to prove they are different… otherwise, he kind of wins by default because they ARE different players, after all

[xbadgerhustlerParticipant]

sorry i added more to my post… but yea, u said explain the difference

[Michael.S.Participant]

Brandon Jennings will be better because he whipped him before…
YUP that really makes sense !!!!!!! so since Gilbert Arenas killed Kobe for 60 he is better?

hahahahaha

u just like to argue for the sake of argiung and half the time it doesnt make any sense

[butidonthavemoney]

See this? This is Chewbacca. Now stop and ask yourself. What does Chewbacca have to do with this arguement?

NOTHING! It doesn’t make any sense! IT DOESN”T MAKE SENSE!

Now can you understand where mikenike is coming from? Just admit you are wrong dude.

[Michael.S.Participant]

hahahaha

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Kobe is not a PG…if he had to guard Arenas….he would have shut him down. That’s like saying ” CP3 had 50 against Kobe…is he better? different positions so your not always guarding him.

Also, Crittenton and Wall- 6-4 PG’s, good passers, issues on thier jumpers, both fast PG who can slash well, both are lazy on D, not great inside unless dunking the ball or passing ( misses lay-ups) and both dominated HS.

[butidonthavemoney]

By squirmydude at 2009-07-27

What is Chewbacca doing here? Why is he throwing a baseball? You can’t tell me, can you?

BECAUSE IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE! Your arguments are invaid.

[RickyRubio9Participant]

LOL Why…is he throwing a baseball…Is that the first pitch and he like…did it right before a new star wars movie.

[Michael.S.Participant]

Knicksboy watch this and READ the discription
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=hm2XO28YRYU
still wanna argue?
ur arguements are invalid !! hahahaha

[butidonthavemoney]

Just give up already. I already proved both of you wrong.

[Knicksboy34Participant]

I didn’t Know Kobe had a headband and wore #1…

He did not guard him the whole game like i said…so i was right,

[xbadgerhustlerParticipant]

Gilbert made Kobe look like one of the worst defenders in the game….. to be honest.

Whew, that was a thing of beauty

[Michael.S.Participant]

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/10255
CHECK OUT THE LAST 5 POSTS !!!!!!!!!!! KNICKSBOY
U WERE RIGHT BOUT THAT TOO RIGHT?

[butidonthavemoney]

Ehhh… Nevermind. I’ll just stay out of this one.

[Michael.S.Participant]

if i were ur English student i would cry hahaha, but good finds

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Yea. I did copy and paste it off you original post. U must have changed it. Why would I lie about it? I don’t need to because it’s not that big. It’s not like you said something bad or anything. Personally, you guys are the ones taking it to heart, I let it go and said it after you got upset yesterday.I even offered to change it and you still bring it up? That’s lame man. I would expect that from other ppl not you. I dont need to lie to prove a point because if you read what I said on that post I never jumped on it and killed you about you saying that.

For you to bring that up again…that’s weak and lame of you.

[butidonthavemoney]

What are you talking about?

Don’t even think about saying I edited my post!

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Yea. I did copy and paste it off you original post. U must have changed it. Why would I lie about it? I don’t need to because it’s not that big. It’s not like you said something bad or anything. Personally, you guys are the ones taking it to heart, I let it go and said it after you got upset yesterday.I even offered to change it and you still bring it up? That’s lame man. I would expect that from other ppl not you. I dont need to lie to prove a point because if you read what I said on that post I never jumped on it and killed you about you saying that.

For you to bring that up again…that’s weak and lame of you.

[Michael.S.Participant]

Knicksboy for real, be real.
i am not taking it to heart because ur still making topic posts about it 3 days later
U must have changed it, no i didnt , did u ever think for 1 second that maybe u just misread what i said and maybe u THOUGHT i said he will be the greatest and u just posted that?there i proof i didnt edit it and i like said i dont care even if i would have said he is gonna be the greatest remember?

[Knicksboy34Participant]

because ur still making topic posts about it 3 days later

No I did not. And no because i highlighted copy and pasted it. How am I still bringing it up if on your other post about John Wall ( Which is like your 10th) and u and other posters are saying that youre right. And I’m bringing it up? Play yourself…

[butidonthavemoney]

By squirmydude at 2009-07-27

Why is Chewbacca playing a pink guitar?

IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE!

[Michael.S.Participant]

because ur still making topic posts about it 3 days later
i meant john wall and trying to sway my opinion
i brought it up cuz it seems like we were cool and all of a sudden u wanna keep on coming at me with all this John Wall stuff
listen i dont know what happened that u are acting this way but did i do somethin that started this?

[RickyRubio9Participant]

um….I kind of thought maybe the first two were funny, but three is pushing it man. haha. Especially about the same character. Let Mikenike and Knicksboy handle their own business. It really isn’t that important. It’s a persons opinion…so what if he did or didn’t say he’ll be the greatest…Can you get mad at someone for posting their opinion. Who knows what this kid will do? It’s just another top talent going into college. He isn’t much different then the others. He just has the most hype.

[deuce4off]

Knicksboy if you think Crittenton is anything like John Wall based on skills you’re a complete fool.

[RickyRubio9Participant]

Ok…whatever floats your boat bro

[butidonthavemoney]

This is Chewbacca’s forth apperence in this topic. It just doesn’t make any sense. It seriously doesn’t make any sense at all. Honestly. Why am I doing this? What do I possibly have to gain? NOTHING! I’m probably going to lose points for this. Chewbacca has no place in NBADraft.net because it doesn’t make any sense. I like you dude, but this doesn’t make any sense. IT DOESN’T MAKE SENSE! For real, I’m not trying to put you down or anything, I respect you but this really, really, REALLY does NOT make ANY sense!

Now who is pushing it?

[Knicksboy34Participant]

deuce4off…u hate me so of course you would disagree with me

Also, Im not mad at u mikenike, healthy arguing man!

[Michael.S.Participant]

NO MORE JOHN WALL POSTS FOR ME AT ALL TILL THE SEASON

[Knicksboy34Participant]

u can post more John Wall stuff…i just wont post on it anymore

[butidonthavemoney]

Chewbacca always gets what he wants!

By squirmydude at 2009-07-27

[butidonthavemoney]

Six Chewies might be too many…

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Duece you still hate me bro?

[Michael.S.Participant]

hahahaha , i still wanna do that stuff but 10 bucks a month I DONT HAVE A CREDIT CARD im only 16 ,my mom wont pay for me to post pics on a site

[Knicksboy34Participant]

what stuff?

[butidonthavemoney]

I don’t pay jack. I wouldn’t pay 10 bucks a month to post pictures. I think somebody is trying to rip you off.

I don’t have a credit card either.

[butidonthavemoney]

I think Knicksboy has blocked me. He can’t see any of my amazing pictures.

His loss.

[Michael.S.Participant]

Knicksboy man u really think i care if u disagree with me? no i like that cuz i wanna hear why , just make it a good reason why u disagree . like saying u ont think he will be that great and we have to wait and see how he plays in Kentucky first would be ok for me

[Michael.S.Participant]

butidont. u post it for free ? how ? the site u gave me was 10 bucks a month

[butidonthavemoney]

http://imageshack.us/

[Michael.S.Participant]

thanks but ill do it tomorrow. its almost 3 am and i friggin go summerschool for regents tomorrow Fluck

[butidonthavemoney]

I’m going to go watch old Star Wars.

[Michael.S.Participant]

iight . damn what time is it over there?

[butidonthavemoney]

11:40

[Michael.S.Participant]

LUCKY, peace i gotta get some sleep, talk to yall tomorrow hopefully

[BasketballGuru24Participant]

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/9028

found the post lol

[McWinningParticipant]

John Wall+Mikenike+Knicksboy34+Butidonthavemoney=Chaos

[sakuragi84Participant]

all i can say is that this is all moot because wall’s not in the nba yet. once he gets there, then argue. but knicksboy34 has one point, mikenike shouldn’t get all worked up if someone disagrees with wall not being the greatest for the same reasons you say everyone else opinion is invalid, that we have to wait and see. when you guys are making arguments, don’t let your emotions get the best of you (my word of advice for you, i’m 25) because you won’t be able to make valid argument points.

[quincey hodges]

saying wall is the greatest is just a dumb comment

[ball4life66Participant]

Crittenton did NOT have an issue with his jumper coming out of high school like Wall did. Crittenton has only been in the league 2 years he still has a chance to become a great NBA PG.

[quincey hodges]

actually those 2 are pretty comparable comming out…javaris is taller though and bigger..wall is faster and a slightly better passer then what javaris was at that point. because of walls hype if he puts up the same freshman numbers as javaris he will prob go top 2 unless someone has a breakout season

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Thank you QH…I told him that

[eprizzle14Participant]

Washington a good fit for Crittinton? His behind is going to be on the bench just like first 3 years in the league they have Stevenson,Foye, Nick Young and Mike Miller. If Javaris gets PT it will be at point

[Tobe BryantParticipant]

Crittenton will eventually find his place, he’s gonna pan out the same way that Chauncey Billups did. THEY’RE NOT BY ANY MEANS THE SAME PLAYER OR SHARE THE SAME SKILLSET, I MEAN IN TERMS OF BEING TRADE THROW-INS AND JOURNEYMEN WITH TALENT. Crittenton should’ve stayed in school though. HE HAS POINT GUARD SKILLS, THATS WHAT HE IS. YOU CAN’T COMPARE WALL AND CRITTENTON. JUST STOP IT. WE DONT KNOW HOW EACH ARE GOING TO PAN OUT. LETS JUST SEE AT THE YEAR’S END. A PRIME EXAMPLE OF THIS SITUATION IS THE YEAR THAT THADDEUS YOUNG AND KEVIN DURANT CAME IN AS FRESHMEN. YOUNG WAS MORE TOUTED BUT WE SEE WHO IS THE BETTER PLAYER NOW RIGHT??

[Knicksboy34Participant]

HE HAS POINT GUARD SKILLS, THATS WHAT HE IS. YOU CAN’T COMPARE WALL AND CRITTENTON. JUST STOP IT. WE DONT KNOW HOW EACH ARE GOING TO PAN OUT.

Noone said that this is how John Wall is gonna end up. I just wanted to show Mikenike that there are players similar to John Wall who had troubles in the NBA and that it’s tough to call a HS kid the Future Greatest PG.

[butidonthavemoney]

He is probably faster and more athletic than any PG in the NBA right now. Including Derrick Rose.

[Knicksboy34Participant]

He is probably faster and more athletic than any PG in the NBA right now

and you talk about invalid statment…He is not faster than Rondo. I’m saying it, He wont be better then Rondo, Jennings or Rose

[butidonthavemoney]

“Invalid Statement”

OK. Prove Rondo is faster. Unless you can do that then your statement is also invalid.

Do I need to use the Chewbacca defense again?

[butidonthavemoney]

“There isn’t much logic when it comes to the draft. There is only PROJECTIONS. There is no such thing as a sure thing. “Blake Griffen will never score an NBA hoop.” That arguement is just as valid as “John Wall will be the greatest point guard ever,” or “Ricky Rubio is John Stockton w/ more skills,” or “Tyreke Evans is going to be a solid point guard.”

Scoring a lot of points in college doesn’t mean you will be a good NBA player. Jumping really high doesn’t mean you will be a good NBA player.

Brandon Jennings is either better than John Wall or not. What may be proof to you, may not be proof to others.

You are all just guessing.

Therefore, all of your arguments are invaid!

I win you biatches.”

You were refering to this?

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Yes

[xbadgerhustlerParticipant]

We’ll just have to wait and see at next year’s combine to see if butidont is right about the athletic ability of John Wall… I doubt he’s quicker than Rondo and Rose though. I haven’t seen a lot of john wall, though, to be honest. He probably just looks really fast cuz he’s playing in HS! hahaha HS.
which doesn’t mean anything (this is all assuming wall is as good as mikenike thinks he is and enters the draft)

[Knicksboy34Participant]

I win you biatches

How is that valid?

[butidonthavemoney]

Then how is “He is not faster than Rondo” more valid than “He is faster than Rondo”?

You have to question the validity of somebody who is questioning the validity of your statement when you question the ability to call a statement a statement, because while you can question the validity of a statement you cannot question the validity of an opinion because opinion isn’t a valid statement, meaning questioning the validity of my opinion or questioning the validity of mikenike’s projection would lead to everybody questioning the validity of your statements that question everybody’s questions. Any questions?

[butidonthavemoney]

It isn’t.

You have to question the validity of somebody who is questioning the validity of your statement when you question the ability to call a statement a statement, because while you can question the validity of a statement you cannot question the validity of an opinion because opinion isn’t a valid statement, meaning questioning the validity of my opinion or questioning the validity of mikenike’s projection would lead to everybody questioning the validity of your statements that question everybody’s questions.

Duhhhh

[McWinningParticipant]

bitches but he didnt want it bleeped out. i agree with butidont.

[butidonthavemoney]

If you dig through what I wrote I am saying that you CANNOT argue about the validity of an opinion or a projection.

[Knicksboy34Participant]

But why would you keep doing that? You dont think we know that we may not be correct? Everytime you see people arguing you dont need to put that we should know our statements is invalid…

[butidonthavemoney]

You started it by implying that me saying “He is probably faster and more athletic than any PG in the NBA right now” was invaid.

[Knicksboy34Participant]

I dont care. It slows down a conversation and a debate when you do that…noone cares…just dont do it anymore.

[McWinningParticipant]

butidonthavemoney i agree with you. hell Blake Griffan could be the next Jonathon Bender and be destroyed by injuries you can never be sure

[McWinningParticipant]

which html makes your text look like that?

[butidonthavemoney]

What a bold thing to say…

(hehehe punZ)

[McWinningParticipant]

what html do you use italic?

[butidonthavemoney]

WTF I THINK I BROKE THIS SITE!

Everything is bold now….

(I’m not doing this….)

[McWinningParticipant]

its the same for me

[butidonthavemoney]

My bad.

Anyway italic is just .

Take out the *s

[butidonthavemoney]

Birdman are you sure you did this on your post.

[butidonthavemoney]

You started it. Look back at your post.

Edit: I found it. “and you talk about invalid statment…He is not faster than Rondo. I’m saying it, He wont be better then Rondo, Jennings or Rose”

[sheltwon3Participant]

I think it is still early to knock on Critterton who looked promising his first year when he played with the Lakers. I think all the trades and lack of minutes have effected him a lil. He may have come out to early but I think once he get time and some minutes he will be pretty good. NBA sometimes confidence is a big factor. It is possibly that Wall is hype but Rose and Mayo got the same hype or more and they are doing well. Why compare Wall to Critterton and why not compare him to Rose. Also Jennings is said to be real quick and most young player suck on D so Jennings outscoring Wall does not say much.

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Why compare Wall to Critterton and why not compare him to Rose

I compared him to Crittenton to show mikenike that not every fast PG is a 100% All-NBA lock. He called him the Best Point Guard Ever…

[McWinningParticipant]

i put strong not not sure what happened.

[McWinningParticipant]

its only this thread thats weird, i found out how to make a thread all bold now though.

[butidonthavemoney]

/strong

End???

[McWinningParticipant]

ill post the bold on an older thread and then you post after me as an experiment okay?

[butidonthavemoney]

This will be amazing!

[McWinningParticipant]

i posted in allstars.

[Michael.S.Participant]

KNICKSBOY
I compared him to Crittenton to show mikenike that not every fast PG is a 100% All-NBA lock. He called him the Best Point Guard Ever…

i did not say he was the best PG ever i said i wouldnt be surprised if he turns out to be, and i also said i know a star when i see one , like i knew “to show mikenike that not every fast PG is a 100% All-NBA lock” that, thats like implying that i think Usain Bolt will be all NBA

[Knicksboy34Participant]

I made a mistake. You say he will be the Best PG ever. ( is that not the same thing)

I dont know how you got Usain Bolt in here.

And you say you think He will be the best PG ever on the other post…you did not say suprised once. As a matter of fact you told us to wait and watch….

“great another doubter, u will learn soon enough”
“Yup that i did say it, oveboard or not , watch and learn”

those are your post copied and pasted

[xbadgerhustlerParticipant]

I don’t think mikenike ever said that he would be the greatest, just that he would be on of the greatest… which is a ridiculous statement to make, but he never said that he would be the greatest, i think we’ve established that

[Michael.S.Participant]

thanks and yes i do think he will be one of the greatest, but i wouldnt be surprised if he does become the greatest
“I compared him to Crittenton to show mikenike that not every fast PG is a 100% All-NBA lock.”
u must think i have 0 knowledge about the game, my 10 year old sister knows that, if that was the case T.J Ford wold be an all nba player

[Knicksboy34Participant]

That’s not what u said tho. You said

The Greatest PG ever IMO my comparison is a PG Lebron James

[xbadgerhustlerParticipant]

I think when we looked back at it, and he did not say that. maybe the PG lebron, but not the greatest ever

[Michael.S.Participant]

yeah period point blank

[xbadgerhustlerParticipant]

whatever you want to believe is true

[Knicksboy34Participant]

Yea he did say that…on that other post…

[Knicksboy34Participant]

http://www.nbadraft.net/node/10255

Its right on that post…what r u talking about?

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