[valentine]

Somehow Kevin Hart has become a respected voice in basketball circles. Dont ask me how…I dont find him funny but I figure others do since hes a staple in the NBA celebrity game. 

 

And he called out Ben Simmon’s attitude on ESPN for not working out with the 76ers. Saying he is too young to bring this attitude to the league.

 

Big call…since in this age of basketball having famous fans is a big part of a franchises marketing strategy. Just check out the hype guys like Jay Z, Snoop, Drake and Jack Nicholson create for their teams. 

To me it just gives Simmons another reason to hate the idea of going to Philly. If their own fans are blasting him before he even suits up….whats it going to be like once he gets there.

 

To me it says a lot about Philly fans and very little about Simmons, since top prospects refusing to work out has pretty much become the norm.

 

Are you with Kevin Hart on this one…or should he just stick to comedy in the future.

 

 

 

[JordanC20Participant]

Simmons is doing the right thing I know if I was the projected #1 pick I’d want to sit out as much as possible too of risk of injury or team being dissatisfied with what you did giving them a reason to skip on you.

[JordanC20Participant]

Simmons is doing the right thing I know if I was the projected #1 pick I’d want to sit out as much as possible too of risk of injury or team being dissatisfied with what you did giving them a reason to skip on you.

[Arc12345Participant]

I’ve never really heard of a player who is pretty much the consensus for the number 1 pick refusing to work out for the team with the number 1 pick. Am I wrong here? I always thought top players (we’re talking early first round) worked out for teams that were in the given range of where they’re thought to be selected. So I’m imagining for example someone like Kris Dunn, Buddy Hield, and Jamal Murray worked out for AT LEAST Boston, Phoneix, Minnesota, New Orleans and maybe Denver.

I just think it would make sense for Ben Simmons to workout for 2 teams: Philly and LA. It makes sense for Ingram to workout for 3 teams: Philly, LA, and Boston.

Again, it really just comes off as weak to me. Why would he not work out for them? To save his ridiculous LSU combine numbers that were totally inflated? I have no clue. I understand passing on the NBA combine, but to pass on a private workout seems extremely odd to me.

 

 

  

[Arc12345Participant]

I’ve never really heard of a player who is pretty much the consensus for the number 1 pick refusing to work out for the team with the number 1 pick. Am I wrong here? I always thought top players (we’re talking early first round) worked out for teams that were in the given range of where they’re thought to be selected. So I’m imagining for example someone like Kris Dunn, Buddy Hield, and Jamal Murray worked out for AT LEAST Boston, Phoneix, Minnesota, New Orleans and maybe Denver.

I just think it would make sense for Ben Simmons to workout for 2 teams: Philly and LA. It makes sense for Ingram to workout for 3 teams: Philly, LA, and Boston.

Again, it really just comes off as weak to me. Why would he not work out for them? To save his ridiculous LSU combine numbers that were totally inflated? I have no clue. I understand passing on the NBA combine, but to pass on a private workout seems extremely odd to me.

 

 

  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Well apparently Kris Dunn hasn’t worked out for anybody and is refusing to do so unless they can get Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, or Jamal Murray for a 1 on 1 workout against him(which won’t happen).  

[BleedGreen808Participant]

 Well apparently Kris Dunn hasn’t worked out for anybody and is refusing to do so unless they can get Ben Simmons, Brandon Ingram, or Jamal Murray for a 1 on 1 workout against him(which won’t happen).  

[Arc12345Participant]

That’s interesting. I understand he wants the head to head competition to prove he’s better, but he can prove that in a sensational individual workout as well. That almost seems babyish to me…"Get so and so to come or I’m not coming."

I would probably prefer an individual workout if I were a big time prospect.  

[nill650Participant]

 ainge already has seen plenty of Dunn footage as have any other interested parties.The more I think about it, Personaly think that Dunn doing what makes sense to keep his stock high…challenge the direct competition whos agents won’t let them go head to head w/ Dunn because thier stock will drop. If it would’nt drop why would they refuse to take the challenge. 

This kind of play is actually pretty damn bold of Dunn, and I would’nt be surprised if it gets him consideration for Philly at 1. He is more than capable of being just as impactful as John Wall.

 

[nill650Participant]

 ainge already has seen plenty of Dunn footage as have any other interested parties.The more I think about it, Personaly think that Dunn doing what makes sense to keep his stock high…challenge the direct competition whos agents won’t let them go head to head w/ Dunn because thier stock will drop. If it would’nt drop why would they refuse to take the challenge. 

This kind of play is actually pretty damn bold of Dunn, and I would’nt be surprised if it gets him consideration for Philly at 1. He is more than capable of being just as impactful as John Wall.

 

[Arc12345Participant]

That’s interesting. I understand he wants the head to head competition to prove he’s better, but he can prove that in a sensational individual workout as well. That almost seems babyish to me…"Get so and so to come or I’m not coming."

I would probably prefer an individual workout if I were a big time prospect.  

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

The kid needs to appreciate the opportunity he’s about to be given (being selected #1 overall for a proud franchise with a rich history)

I have no problem with Kevin Hart or any other fan trying to keep a young guy humble before the hype goes to his head…

I really want to like Ben Simmons, but let’s be real, if he doesn’t have thick skin and an insane work ethic on the Court the Philadelphia faithful will eat him alive…

[The Scare Crow RisesParticipant]

The kid needs to appreciate the opportunity he’s about to be given (being selected #1 overall for a proud franchise with a rich history)

I have no problem with Kevin Hart or any other fan trying to keep a young guy humble before the hype goes to his head…

I really want to like Ben Simmons, but let’s be real, if he doesn’t have thick skin and an insane work ethic on the Court the Philadelphia faithful will eat him alive…

[sheltwon3Participant]

 Do you even know Ben Simmons?  The media is trying to bully him and Kevin Hart is out of line.  His advisors know more than Kevin Hart who strength is in comedy.  The media is using fake stuff to bully Ben Simmons like the do most of the players.

[negguaryParticipant]

agreed if he doesn’t have thick skin and cant take being criticized philly isn’t for him anyway. BTW don’t need to know him to know that the way he’s going about it is rubbing off as prima donna. You don’t need to know him to see the writing on the wall five years down the line that he is for self and not loyalty and he will leave in FA because he already has a massive sneaker contract and wants to play in warm weather, sound familiar??

[220Participant]

 For argument sake let’s assume Bryan Colangelo thinks the same as you in this circumstance. Is all of these concerns along with the on court concerns enough to pass on Simmons or deal him to the Lakers on draft night for Brandon Ingram? The 76ers can say whatever they’d like regarding not dealing the pick, but I’d be shocked if they haven’t had this conversation at the very least amongst themselves. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear they’ve inquired about what the Lakers would give them for Simmons.

[negguaryParticipant]

Most definitely would in a heartbeat!! I’ve always felt like Ingram had just as much upside as Simmons especially being that hes younger, can already shoot is a more lethal scorer, and has more defensive potential! I’ve made my peace with MY sixers selecting Simmons #1 because there’s that WHAT IF factor with him. BUT with all the on court concerns and the negative show of character and the opportunity FOR ONE to a get a player that already fits your team, TWO you don’t have to deconstruct your team to build around, and THREE potentially get a guard in the deal, or lift the top three protection for next year WHY NOT??? The only way you don’t do that is if without a shadow of a doubt believe that he will be the next BRON BRON , but your not even afforded that opportunity in this situation because he won’t grant a workout! You only turn down trades like that if the player is a LeBron caliber talent.

[negguaryParticipant]

Most definitely would in a heartbeat!! I’ve always felt like Ingram had just as much upside as Simmons especially being that hes younger, can already shoot is a more lethal scorer, and has more defensive potential! I’ve made my peace with MY sixers selecting Simmons #1 because there’s that WHAT IF factor with him. BUT with all the on court concerns and the negative show of character and the opportunity FOR ONE to a get a player that already fits your team, TWO you don’t have to deconstruct your team to build around, and THREE potentially get a guard in the deal, or lift the top three protection for next year WHY NOT??? The only way you don’t do that is if without a shadow of a doubt believe that he will be the next BRON BRON , but your not even afforded that opportunity in this situation because he won’t grant a workout! You only turn down trades like that if the player is a LeBron caliber talent.

[220Participant]

 For argument sake let’s assume Bryan Colangelo thinks the same as you in this circumstance. Is all of these concerns along with the on court concerns enough to pass on Simmons or deal him to the Lakers on draft night for Brandon Ingram? The 76ers can say whatever they’d like regarding not dealing the pick, but I’d be shocked if they haven’t had this conversation at the very least amongst themselves. I wouldn’t be shocked to hear they’ve inquired about what the Lakers would give them for Simmons.

[negguaryParticipant]

agreed if he doesn’t have thick skin and cant take being criticized philly isn’t for him anyway. BTW don’t need to know him to know that the way he’s going about it is rubbing off as prima donna. You don’t need to know him to see the writing on the wall five years down the line that he is for self and not loyalty and he will leave in FA because he already has a massive sneaker contract and wants to play in warm weather, sound familiar??

[sheltwon3Participant]

 Do you even know Ben Simmons?  The media is trying to bully him and Kevin Hart is out of line.  His advisors know more than Kevin Hart who strength is in comedy.  The media is using fake stuff to bully Ben Simmons like the do most of the players.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

Appreciate the opportunity? He hasn’t been given anything. He’s the top guy in the draft because of his ability and his potential. If the 76ers don’t want him, there are 29 other teams that know he is worth the shot even if he doesn’t pan out. The NBA is a business and I have no problems with him not being interested in the 76ers. The team has been actively trying to lose and all their best talent plays the same position. One of which probably won’t be over this upcoming season, one likely to be traded, and another that hasn’t played basketball in a couple of years. It’s a bad culture, with an unbalanced roster, and a place that no decent free agents are interested in. It wasn’t that long ago I was hearing how Okafor doesn’t want to be there.

Humble is so overrated. Didn’t your team have Iverson and Barkley? The majority of the greatest athletes in history were not humble guys. Humble guys tend to end up as role players. Jordan, Bird, Shaq, Kobe…superstars. Humble worked out for Duncan. Humble got Dirk surrounded by a team full of guys on the downside of their careers.

 

 

  

[doubledribblerParticipant]

Appreciate the opportunity? He hasn’t been given anything. He’s the top guy in the draft because of his ability and his potential. If the 76ers don’t want him, there are 29 other teams that know he is worth the shot even if he doesn’t pan out. The NBA is a business and I have no problems with him not being interested in the 76ers. The team has been actively trying to lose and all their best talent plays the same position. One of which probably won’t be over this upcoming season, one likely to be traded, and another that hasn’t played basketball in a couple of years. It’s a bad culture, with an unbalanced roster, and a place that no decent free agents are interested in. It wasn’t that long ago I was hearing how Okafor doesn’t want to be there.

Humble is so overrated. Didn’t your team have Iverson and Barkley? The majority of the greatest athletes in history were not humble guys. Humble guys tend to end up as role players. Jordan, Bird, Shaq, Kobe…superstars. Humble worked out for Duncan. Humble got Dirk surrounded by a team full of guys on the downside of their careers.

 

 

  

[The GoatParticipant]

What positive for Ben Simmons could come from working out? He’s going #1. If he works out poorly or gets injured, he severely impacts his future. There is absolutely no reason to work out, as bad as it may look. Many in this situation have done this. Its not that he’s not working out for Philly.. he’s not working out for anyone.

[The GoatParticipant]

What positive for Ben Simmons could come from working out? He’s going #1. If he works out poorly or gets injured, he severely impacts his future. There is absolutely no reason to work out, as bad as it may look. Many in this situation have done this. Its not that he’s not working out for Philly.. he’s not working out for anyone.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 Thanks you man you obviously get it.

[negguaryParticipant]

who have done it?? I cant think of two in the last ten drafts who haven’t worked out for one team at least.

[negguaryParticipant]

who have done it?? I cant think of two in the last ten drafts who haven’t worked out for one team at least.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 Thanks you man you obviously get it.

[top prospectParticipant]

 100% on the money with his comments. Ben Simmons is not bigger than basketball. These kids agents are destroying basketball.

[top prospectParticipant]

 100% on the money with his comments. Ben Simmons is not bigger than basketball. These kids agents are destroying basketball.

[MopgrassParticipant]

Honestly, I hate all the posturing, lawyerly approaches, and the everything-is-a-negotiation approach. As a fan, I’d like to see all these guys at the combine. I hate that coaches can’t compliment their players too much because it will later hurt them in negotiations. Everyone’s a lawyer. Even people who aren’t lawyers are lawyers. 

 

[MopgrassParticipant]

Honestly, I hate all the posturing, lawyerly approaches, and the everything-is-a-negotiation approach. As a fan, I’d like to see all these guys at the combine. I hate that coaches can’t compliment their players too much because it will later hurt them in negotiations. Everyone’s a lawyer. Even people who aren’t lawyers are lawyers. 

 

[FullCourtPressParticipant]

 Does it really matter if he doesn’t work out for Philly, does it change anything? He’s either going one or two most likely one and to me its not like the kid is talking shit and lapping up all the media attention, the kid from all reports that ive read is being low key, working his ass off getting ready for his first NBA season. People just keep blasting this kid for no reason. If you want to point the finger at someone for why he’s not working out for anyone point at Rich Paul.

[FullCourtPressParticipant]

 Does it really matter if he doesn’t work out for Philly, does it change anything? He’s either going one or two most likely one and to me its not like the kid is talking shit and lapping up all the media attention, the kid from all reports that ive read is being low key, working his ass off getting ready for his first NBA season. People just keep blasting this kid for no reason. If you want to point the finger at someone for why he’s not working out for anyone point at Rich Paul.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 What the hell are most of yall talking about.  This is business.  All that humble stuff is not needed with the owners or anyone else in the NBA but somehow the players have to have it.  Seriously the league has done over on most of the people by making the players out to be the bad guys while they get rich and screw everyone over.  Also what is wrong with him not working out.  It makes no sense for him to work out.  I am sure he has hired people smart enough to tell him not to work out.  Ben Simmons literally can not lose if he does not work out.  He is a guaranteed 1 or 2 and fans are so wishy washy why care what they think now.  I remember one minutes Cleveland loved Lebron then they hated him and now they love him again.  This slave system with put on people especially Black Americans makes me sick.  Tell CEO’s and the 1% to humble themselves and do what you want.  He did not get in the discussion of top pick because he is lazy, and he has no big major issues for anyone to bring out.  This immaturity thing is something made up because really how should an 18/19 year old act and on top of that his advisors are not young.

[sheltwon3Participant]

 What the hell are most of yall talking about.  This is business.  All that humble stuff is not needed with the owners or anyone else in the NBA but somehow the players have to have it.  Seriously the league has done over on most of the people by making the players out to be the bad guys while they get rich and screw everyone over.  Also what is wrong with him not working out.  It makes no sense for him to work out.  I am sure he has hired people smart enough to tell him not to work out.  Ben Simmons literally can not lose if he does not work out.  He is a guaranteed 1 or 2 and fans are so wishy washy why care what they think now.  I remember one minutes Cleveland loved Lebron then they hated him and now they love him again.  This slave system with put on people especially Black Americans makes me sick.  Tell CEO’s and the 1% to humble themselves and do what you want.  He did not get in the discussion of top pick because he is lazy, and he has no big major issues for anyone to bring out.  This immaturity thing is something made up because really how should an 18/19 year old act and on top of that his advisors are not young.

[Arc12345Participant]

 Look I’m sure he’s a bright kid, but it strikes me as immature when you get a one point something GPA. It’s not him screwing over the system or just being too above to go to class because he’s only there for one year.

If he was really that smart, he would’ve realized that having an abysmal GPA put him out of the running for many national awards that would’ve only helped solidify him as the number 1 pick. If he were really smart, he would’ve found out what the minimum GPA is for consideration for those awards and gotten it.

Don’t give me that crap about him not being immature or it not going to his head or him being too smart and playing the system. I’m tired of it.

[doubledribblerParticipant]

He didn’t go to school to learn anything. He went to school to play basketball. He got a scholarship for basketball. Admissions didn’t care what community service he had or what his extra curriculars were. He made the school money, he fulfilled his mandatory 1 year stop which is bogus as it is. Stop pretending GPA matters when a large chunk of these guys don’t go to class after the 1st semester and the ones that do are taking the most basic classes they can get their hands on.

He doesn’t need the national awards. Seriously, who gives a f**k about an award when your team is garbage? That award is worth the same as your state high school championship banner or middle school mvp… zero dollars. He’s still going to be the number 1 or at worst number 2 player without those national awards. He’ll get a nice shoe deal. Financially he will be set. He played the system for what it was. Corrupt and a sham. Ask Penn State, UNC, Baylor, etc. They don’t care about education and people improving. He’s not working out because it doesn’t benefit him. He can’t boost his stock. People want to bash him because he’s not giving them the show they want. 

[doubledribblerParticipant]

He didn’t go to school to learn anything. He went to school to play basketball. He got a scholarship for basketball. Admissions didn’t care what community service he had or what his extra curriculars were. He made the school money, he fulfilled his mandatory 1 year stop which is bogus as it is. Stop pretending GPA matters when a large chunk of these guys don’t go to class after the 1st semester and the ones that do are taking the most basic classes they can get their hands on.

He doesn’t need the national awards. Seriously, who gives a f**k about an award when your team is garbage? That award is worth the same as your state high school championship banner or middle school mvp… zero dollars. He’s still going to be the number 1 or at worst number 2 player without those national awards. He’ll get a nice shoe deal. Financially he will be set. He played the system for what it was. Corrupt and a sham. Ask Penn State, UNC, Baylor, etc. They don’t care about education and people improving. He’s not working out because it doesn’t benefit him. He can’t boost his stock. People want to bash him because he’s not giving them the show they want. 

[Arc12345Participant]

 Look I’m sure he’s a bright kid, but it strikes me as immature when you get a one point something GPA. It’s not him screwing over the system or just being too above to go to class because he’s only there for one year.

If he was really that smart, he would’ve realized that having an abysmal GPA put him out of the running for many national awards that would’ve only helped solidify him as the number 1 pick. If he were really smart, he would’ve found out what the minimum GPA is for consideration for those awards and gotten it.

Don’t give me that crap about him not being immature or it not going to his head or him being too smart and playing the system. I’m tired of it.

[HitsterParticipant]

If Simmons agreed to work out for the Lakers then we would know where he wants to go. Players will rarely work out against each other especially lower ranked players.

[HitsterParticipant]

If Simmons agreed to work out for the Lakers then we would know where he wants to go. Players will rarely work out against each other especially lower ranked players.

[ChoppyParticipant]

 Why are people putting this on Simmons? I guarantee he’s only doing what his agents advise him to do. 

[ChoppyParticipant]

 Why are people putting this on Simmons? I guarantee he’s only doing what his agents advise him to do. 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 against Sixers fans??? ………………… It’s not uncommon for the Lock #1 pick to Not work out for Anyone………….

And Simmons has not worked out for anyone……………….

On another note………. Did anyone see the Video of Ingram visiting the Sixers & hanging out w/ Sixers Jahlil Okafor & Joel Embiid before or after practice???

OMG Joel Embiid is a giant……… How big is this dude??? He made Okafor & Ingram who are 6’10 & 6’9” look like Children………. & Okafor is a HUGE guy but he looked small next to Embiid…….. I could not believe what I was seeing…….. And he looked so Fluid on the court……….

 

 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Post the link to the video

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 WWW Dot Philly Dot Com / philly / sports / 20160614 _ Ford _ Ingram _ works _ out _ Embiid _ stands _ out DOT html

Sorry for the delay……….. I hope that makes sense…. the site won’t let me cut & paste the link & it would not even allow me to manually type it……….

Wow Embiid’s sheer size is Jaw dropping……….. Good article too……….. looks like this guy is 100% or close enough to it……….. he’s going to play next year………. I have to admit, I want to see him play…….

 

 

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 WWW Dot Philly Dot Com / philly / sports / 20160614 _ Ford _ Ingram _ works _ out _ Embiid _ stands _ out DOT html

Sorry for the delay……….. I hope that makes sense…. the site won’t let me cut & paste the link & it would not even allow me to manually type it……….

Wow Embiid’s sheer size is Jaw dropping……….. Good article too……….. looks like this guy is 100% or close enough to it……….. he’s going to play next year………. I have to admit, I want to see him play…….

 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Post the link to the video

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 against Sixers fans??? ………………… It’s not uncommon for the Lock #1 pick to Not work out for Anyone………….

And Simmons has not worked out for anyone……………….

On another note………. Did anyone see the Video of Ingram visiting the Sixers & hanging out w/ Sixers Jahlil Okafor & Joel Embiid before or after practice???

OMG Joel Embiid is a giant……… How big is this dude??? He made Okafor & Ingram who are 6’10 & 6’9” look like Children………. & Okafor is a HUGE guy but he looked small next to Embiid…….. I could not believe what I was seeing…….. And he looked so Fluid on the court……….

 

 

 

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Did Ben Simmon’s decline to meet with them altogether or just decline to workout? 

 

[220Participant]

 All I’ve heard so far is he refused to work out for anyone. I haven’t heard if he refuses to meet with anyone.

[220Participant]

 All I’ve heard so far is he refused to work out for anyone. I haven’t heard if he refuses to meet with anyone.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Did Ben Simmon’s decline to meet with them altogether or just decline to workout? 

 

[220Participant]

 You forgot to mention the second part of what Kevin Hart said. He said  he was just kidding and please come to Philadelphia the 76ers need you. He also said something along the lines of beggers can’t be choosers. Kevin Hart is a comedian I’m not too concerned about his opinion on this when he was being serious or when he was kidding.

If I was a 76er fan I’d be more upset if he refused to work out for the Sixers, but then worked out for the Lakers and Celtics. Either Ben Simmons is a total diva, his people think he doesn’t need to workout, or they’re afraid he’ll get exposed. It’s little things like this that can make a guy drop if a team isn’t sure about them. I mean if the 76ers doubt he’ll ever be able to shoot and they think he’s more Lamar Odom than Lebron James then I could see them taking Brandon Ingram if they believe he’s a lock for stardom after their workout. It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Hype Machine]

He wasnt joking.  

More like he had a ‘wtf have I just done’ moment, then just said he was joking…

I’m sure Colangelo really appreciated his comments lol

Its already a tense situation and now the teams most famous fan has just made it way worse. 

 

[220Participant]

 I could buy that he was being serious, but I don’t think Kevin Hart made it any worse with his comments. As soon as the report came that Ben Simmons wouldn’t work out for anyone people got nervous without a doubt. It’s rare that a consensus #1 pick won’t work out for the team with the #1 pick. It’s an odd choice, but in truth it doesn’t hurt Simmons much if at all. I wish guys would just work out, but their agent and people in their corner call a lot of the shots.

[220Participant]

 I could buy that he was being serious, but I don’t think Kevin Hart made it any worse with his comments. As soon as the report came that Ben Simmons wouldn’t work out for anyone people got nervous without a doubt. It’s rare that a consensus #1 pick won’t work out for the team with the #1 pick. It’s an odd choice, but in truth it doesn’t hurt Simmons much if at all. I wish guys would just work out, but their agent and people in their corner call a lot of the shots.

[Hype Machine]

He wasnt joking.  

More like he had a ‘wtf have I just done’ moment, then just said he was joking…

I’m sure Colangelo really appreciated his comments lol

Its already a tense situation and now the teams most famous fan has just made it way worse. 

 

[220Participant]

 You forgot to mention the second part of what Kevin Hart said. He said  he was just kidding and please come to Philadelphia the 76ers need you. He also said something along the lines of beggers can’t be choosers. Kevin Hart is a comedian I’m not too concerned about his opinion on this when he was being serious or when he was kidding.

If I was a 76er fan I’d be more upset if he refused to work out for the Sixers, but then worked out for the Lakers and Celtics. Either Ben Simmons is a total diva, his people think he doesn’t need to workout, or they’re afraid he’ll get exposed. It’s little things like this that can make a guy drop if a team isn’t sure about them. I mean if the 76ers doubt he’ll ever be able to shoot and they think he’s more Lamar Odom than Lebron James then I could see them taking Brandon Ingram if they believe he’s a lock for stardom after their workout. It will be interesting to see what happens.

 

[Ebown5Participant]

All of this stuff is just noise.

Ben Simmons will be a Sixer next week, and he will be happy to be there. Philadelphia is a great market in and of itself, and the organization has a proud and storied history.

This is the team of Iverson, Barkley, and Erving. Simmons will be able to accomplish all of his goals in Philly. If he works hard, and keeps his nose clean he can be a basketball icon.

 Perhaps in his heart he would have preferred that the Lakers won the lottery, but they didn’t. For a megastar, after NY or LA, the Philly market is as good as anywhere else.

The two most talented players coming into the league next year are going to be on the Sixers in Embiid and Simmons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Ebown5Participant]

All of this stuff is just noise.

Ben Simmons will be a Sixer next week, and he will be happy to be there. Philadelphia is a great market in and of itself, and the organization has a proud and storied history.

This is the team of Iverson, Barkley, and Erving. Simmons will be able to accomplish all of his goals in Philly. If he works hard, and keeps his nose clean he can be a basketball icon.

 Perhaps in his heart he would have preferred that the Lakers won the lottery, but they didn’t. For a megastar, after NY or LA, the Philly market is as good as anywhere else.

The two most talented players coming into the league next year are going to be on the Sixers in Embiid and Simmons.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

  

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 All things can be true when talking about this.  I think Simmons is going to be an exceptional player.  I think he is probably immature in a slight sense.  Probably as much as any 19 year old that has been predicted to go first in the NBA draft for a few years.  He seems to have some prima Dona in him.  A GPA of under 2 is lazy, considering the classes he would have been taking.  You can disregard that if you want and chalk it up to whats the point, but that says a little about him to me.

It can also be true that there is no point for him to work out with anyone. Where is the incentive?

He is represented by Lebrons people,. So if Lebron is any indication his PR will never be top notch. It’s a camp that makes alot of noise.

The fact that he is represented by Lebrons people is one reason I am leaning towards Ingram on the Lakers. Will they impact his on court production? Definitely not. But could their entitlement have the wrong impact on an organization,. Absolutely.

Bottom line is all of things are true. There isn’t a right or wrong approach or opinion to be had here.

It comes down to,. Do you value on court production over everything else? If so,. Simmons will be hard to top. Do you care about what happens behind the scenes of your favorite team? If so,. The Simmons camp will probably routinely rub you the wrong way.

[Magic JordanParticipant]

 All things can be true when talking about this.  I think Simmons is going to be an exceptional player.  I think he is probably immature in a slight sense.  Probably as much as any 19 year old that has been predicted to go first in the NBA draft for a few years.  He seems to have some prima Dona in him.  A GPA of under 2 is lazy, considering the classes he would have been taking.  You can disregard that if you want and chalk it up to whats the point, but that says a little about him to me.

It can also be true that there is no point for him to work out with anyone. Where is the incentive?

He is represented by Lebrons people,. So if Lebron is any indication his PR will never be top notch. It’s a camp that makes alot of noise.

The fact that he is represented by Lebrons people is one reason I am leaning towards Ingram on the Lakers. Will they impact his on court production? Definitely not. But could their entitlement have the wrong impact on an organization,. Absolutely.

Bottom line is all of things are true. There isn’t a right or wrong approach or opinion to be had here.

It comes down to,. Do you value on court production over everything else? If so,. Simmons will be hard to top. Do you care about what happens behind the scenes of your favorite team? If so,. The Simmons camp will probably routinely rub you the wrong way.

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Be honest, what is worse:

Ben Simmons not working out for Philadelphia or Central Intelligence?

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

Be honest, what is worse:

Ben Simmons not working out for Philadelphia or Central Intelligence?

[nill650Participant]

 No player cares about what number they are picked,and I guarantee you Simmons is hoping he ends up in LA ,Just like Dunn is hopin he ends up in Minnesota or Chicago if the Twolves trade the pick for Butler…and not somewhere else.

But GMs don’t care about it, they have seen enough to know who their guy is in the top 3 pick range.

Remember when Jabari woul’nt work out for Cleveland , do you think he had insider info that the Cavs were taking Wiggins because that is who the timberwolves wanted for Love? would’nt surprise me… he knew he wasnt going there anyway/.

Philly should pick Ingram at  1  trade Okafor to Boston for the 3 and a shooter  draft Dunn  pick up a center to back up Embiid and a pf that can shoot outside of 10 feet to eventually bring Noel off the bench.

Dunn,Hunter,Ingram,Noel(Bentil),Embiid(Jones).

 

 

[nill650Participant]

 No player cares about what number they are picked,and I guarantee you Simmons is hoping he ends up in LA ,Just like Dunn is hopin he ends up in Minnesota or Chicago if the Twolves trade the pick for Butler…and not somewhere else.

But GMs don’t care about it, they have seen enough to know who their guy is in the top 3 pick range.

Remember when Jabari woul’nt work out for Cleveland , do you think he had insider info that the Cavs were taking Wiggins because that is who the timberwolves wanted for Love? would’nt surprise me… he knew he wasnt going there anyway/.

Philly should pick Ingram at  1  trade Okafor to Boston for the 3 and a shooter  draft Dunn  pick up a center to back up Embiid and a pf that can shoot outside of 10 feet to eventually bring Noel off the bench.

Dunn,Hunter,Ingram,Noel(Bentil),Embiid(Jones).

 

 

[jaycee24Participant]

 I would probably draft Ingram now. I know Simmons has immense talent but I think he’ll always go about things his way and this is evidence of that. Even though the upside of working out really is lower than the potential downside I think it’s a bad look and wouldn’t sit well with me considering what you may be passing on if he doesn’t work out for the 6ers. Ingram is a better overall fit between his game and attitude plus his ties to Jahlil for Philly anyways which is something they need to focus on (fit) as they now try to begin competing. 

[jaycee24Participant]

 I would probably draft Ingram now. I know Simmons has immense talent but I think he’ll always go about things his way and this is evidence of that. Even though the upside of working out really is lower than the potential downside I think it’s a bad look and wouldn’t sit well with me considering what you may be passing on if he doesn’t work out for the 6ers. Ingram is a better overall fit between his game and attitude plus his ties to Jahlil for Philly anyways which is something they need to focus on (fit) as they now try to begin competing. 

[HitsterParticipant]

 If there were issues with Simmons going to the 76ers then I think Jerry Colangelo and co would be making calls to Simmons’ people to smooth things over or to set up a meeting.

Embiid is huge, interesting that he is doing controlled workouts but the 76ers refuse to confirm he’ll be ready for next season.

It makes you wonder if he had been sound when he was in 2014 draft how different things may have turned out, would Cleveland have taken him first and dared trade him for K-Love. Wiggins could have been on Bucks roster or 76ers, Parker likewise. The thought of Embiid and the Greek Freak on the same team too.

Hopefully we see the real Embiid this year, there will be as much excite in Philly when he debuts as when Simmons or Ingram do.

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 If there were issues with Simmons going to the 76ers then I think Jerry Colangelo and co would be making calls to Simmons’ people to smooth things over or to set up a meeting.

Embiid is huge, interesting that he is doing controlled workouts but the 76ers refuse to confirm he’ll be ready for next season.

It makes you wonder if he had been sound when he was in 2014 draft how different things may have turned out, would Cleveland have taken him first and dared trade him for K-Love. Wiggins could have been on Bucks roster or 76ers, Parker likewise. The thought of Embiid and the Greek Freak on the same team too.

Hopefully we see the real Embiid this year, there will be as much excite in Philly when he debuts as when Simmons or Ingram do.

 

 

 

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