[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

Out of the 28 first round picks NINE are already out of the NBA, and ELEVAN come off the bench. None of the 11 that come off the bench or 6th man of the year candidates

[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

The second round has no starters and 16 guys who are out of the NBA.

[WolfRobParticipant]

 Balances out though when you consider four of the top players in the league were in that draft… Not all-stars, but franchise players. Not to mention 4 other all-stars. 

[WizardofOzParticipant]

Quality over quantity.

[ghettosermonParticipant]

 You have to consider though that the draft was over 10 years ago guys like Ford, Hinrich, etc were all starters at one point. If you want a bad draft just go one year back to the 02 draft. The following guys were all lottery picks: Jay Williams, Mike Dunleavy, Drew Gooden, Nickholoz Tskistisvilli, Dajuan Wagner, Chris Wilcox, Jared Jeffries, Melvin Ely, Marcus Haslip, Freddy Jones. That’s 10 of the first 14 picks all being busts based on where they were drafted. Picks 15-22 is even uglier (Bostjan Nachbar, Jiri Welsch, Juan Dixon, Curtis Borchardt, Ryan Humphrey, Kareem Rush, Quintel Woods, Casey Jacobsen) That’s truly pathetic. You’d think at least one guy in picks 15-22 would at least be decent or a long time role player. 2nd round does make up somewhat though with Scola, Boozer, and Matt Barnes. 

[GoJOSH HUESTISParticipant]

How were they bust compared to where they are picked, most lotto picks turn out to not to be really that good. E 2003 draft had stars yes which is why people don’t noticed how bad it was overall. And to repeat what you said the some of the people you lised  were starters at one point 3 PF which only didn’t stay as starters because of injuries

[Wahoo757Participant]

Ugh… This is just painful to read on so many different levels.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

THE Stanford Hoops?

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[TurnipParticipant]

By my count, about half of the players drafted in ’03, which as ghettosermon said was almost ten years ago, are still getting minutes in the NBA. That’s not bad.

[McDunkin]

 My favorite player of this draft..the man…the myth…the pimp Luke Walton

http://www.nbadraft.net/forum/cockblocked-luke-walton

[Afactor4Participant]

Check it 2000 dude.

From the first round these players are out of the NBA (Granted it was 11 drafts ago, but still these players have been out of the league for a while).

Swift, Fizer, Miles, Johnson, Mihm, Moiso, Alexander, Etan Thomas, Mateen Cleeves, Desmond Mason, Speedy Claxton, Mo-Pete, Donnel Harvey, Bagaric (I know who?), Tsakalidis, N’Dayie, Brezec, Barkeley, Madsen.

That’s 20 busts, including these 12th men that stuck around for like 3 years (ala Madsen).

The best player in that draft was drafted mid second round and even he wasn’t anything more than a one time All-Star (Redd). Other than him there was two more one-time All-stars K-Mart and Magloire. Other than Hedo Turkoglu, NO ONE in the draft is a starter right now in the NBA.

The few notable players not mentioned include: Jamal Crawford, Mike Miller, Keyon Dooling, Q-Rich, Deshawn Stevenson, Eddie House, Jason Collier, Jason Hart, Jake Voskuhl, Najera.

Absolutely atrocious draft class, although a few players could have been better if not for unfortunate circumstances (maybe).

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

This draft produced 4, strong perennial All-Stars (all top 5 picks, where you would hope to draft All-Stars). David West made a couple, you had Josh Howard, Chris Kaman and Mo Williams. 10 second rounders playing over 498 games is above average. What it lacked in depth, it provided more than many would expect from a draft, particularly at the top. So, might want to go over draft history before making such a statement. 

[frogmanParticipant]

 In comparison the second round of the 2004 draft has 26 guys who are out of the league.  The 2003 draft had 11 overseas players who never played in the NBA so they are technically not out of the league.  And when you look at contributors like Jason Kapono, Luke Walton, Steve Blake, Willie Green, Zaza Pachulia, Keith Bogans, Matt Bonner, Mo Williams, James Jones and Kyle Korver you will realise this is actually a strong second round to go along with a great 1st round.  Good attempt at blameing Lebron for something else though.

[Cosbysweater7Participant]

You mean one of the best drafts in history*. That was 9 years ago, of course there is going to be alot of players out of the league. It’s not easy to stay in the NBA for over 10 years. A lot of players dont even make it past their rookie contracts.

[omphalosParticipant]

Quincey’s back in the house!

Yeah, you can throw random numbers out there all you want about players who are or aren’t in the league or whatever, but unless you present it relative to other draft classes you can’t make any sort of rankings based judgement.

I think you’ll find many draft classes have lots of players drop out of the NBA in 9 seasons, the average NBA career is something like 5 I think?

[TruettParticipant]

…  In MJ’s Draft class are out of the league so obv that is the worst draft ever…. Only Eight of the players from Kobe’s draft are still in the league, so that one must be worse than lebron’s too…Almost every first round pick from last year is on an NBA roster, therefore its the best draft ever…

[rwd5035Participant]

It’s not even been 10 hours since this has been up, and he’s already accrued -61 in this thread. That’s impressive.

Props to @ghettosermon for attempting to spell Nikoloz Tskitishvilli. Even more impressive.

 

[JustaFanParticipant]

Thought you Stanford guys and gals were pretty smart… not the 2003 draft, "The Lebron James Draft". As far as Drafts go I can’t think of a better draft than 2003 other than "The Micheal Jordan Draft" or the "Kobe Bryant Draft".

[JoeWolf1]

 Take into consideration 10 players from that draft were playing in the conference Finals.  Of the 48 players playing deep into the playoffs this season.  20% of them were drafted in 2003.  That’s a pretty amazing stat when looking at guys having a big impact on playoff teams.

 

[mikeyvthedonParticipant]

Fantastic stat, mad props. They were:

#1 LeBron James

#4 Chris Bosh

#5 Dwyane Wade

#11 Mikael Pietrus

#12 Nick Collison

#19 Sasha Pavlovic

#21 Boris Diaw

#27 Kendrick Perkins

#45 Matt Bonner

#49 James Jones

Plus, the #2 selection won a ring his first season (doing next to nothing, but still happened). Also, the 2003 Draft has had 25 players play over 500 games. 2002 has had 13, 2001 has 23 and 2000 had 15(!). So, as far as longevity goes, does not appear 2003 is really that bad in the least. Going into the 2003 Draft, it seemed like there were 3 sweet choices in LeBron, Darko and Melo, Chris Bosh not being a bad 4th pick, than a bunch of wildcards. Not many people expected Dwyane Wade to be who he became, he was not even expected to go as high as #5.

From 1999-2002, the closest one came to a franchise player was Yao Ming (with Pau Gasol and Amare Stoudemire both being huge contributors). Than came 2003, a draft that produced two guys who have been top 5 players in the NBA for quite a long time, a guy who is close to the top 10-15 in the NBA in Melo and the Bosh that keeps making All-Star teams (deservedly so). If you want to say that draft is bad, you are doing so without researching what actually makes a good draft, just going off of your own created standards. The 2003 Draft may suck to you, but in the scheme of things, it does not even come close to being "one of the worst drafts in history over all".

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