[JNixonParticipant]

These are in order too

Scorers:
Kevin Durant
Kobe Bryant
Carmelo Anthony
Lebron James
Dwyane Wade
Dirk Nowitzki
Danny Granger
Chris Bosh
Joe Johnson
Brandon Roy

6th Man
Jamal Crawford
Jason Terry
Lamar Odom
J.R. Smith
Kirk Hinrich
Shane Battier
Ben Gordon
Serge Ibaka
Thaddeus Young
Wilson Chandler

Defenders:
Dwight Howard
Ron Artest
Shane Battier
Rajon Rondo
Kirk Hinrich
Kendrick Perkins
Thabo Sefolosha
Joakim Noah
Gerald Wallace
Kevin Garnett

Passers:
Steve Nash
Chris Paul
Rajon Rondo
Deron Williams
Jason Kidd
Lebron James
Jose Calderon
Brandon Jennings
Baron Davis
Stephen Curry

Selfish/Least Likely to Pass:
Amare Stoudemire
Gilbert Arenas
Monta Ellis
Al Jefferson
Kevin Martin
Corey Maggette
Al Harrington
J.R. Smith
Von Wafer
Al Thornton

2nd Option:
Lebron James
Pau Gasol
Derrick Rose
Gerald Wallace
Rashard Lewis
Rudy Gay
Caron Butler
Lamarcus Aldridge
David West
Deron Williams

Fastest With the Ball:
Ty Lawson
Devin Harris
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Aaron Brooks
T.J. Ford
Brandon Jennings
Monta Ellis
Roddy Beaubois
Russell Westbrook

Ugliest:
Shelden Williams
Joakim Noah (looks like a prematurely hatched dinosaur)
Marcin Gortat
D.J. Mbenga
Demarre Carrol
Pau Gasol (that guy looks like ostrich)
Al-Farouq Aminu (looks like one of the hyenas off the Lion King)
Hasheem Thabeet
Delonte West
Renaldo Balkman

Softest
Nenad Krstic
Andrea Bargnani
Mike Dunleavy Jr.
Channing Frye
Yao Ming (he gets dunked on alot for a 7’5 man lol)
Spencer Hawes
Charlie Villanueva
Austin Daye
Marco Belinelli
Roy Hibbert

Shooters
Anthony Morrow
Steve Nash
Kyle Korver
Ray Allen
Dirk Nowitzki
Stpehen Curry
Danny Granger
Kevin Durant
J.J. Redick
Rashard Lewis

[nateoak10Participant]

list?

[huff09Participant]

couldnt have made the lists better myself, well done.

[Mr.BigShotParticipant]

Lebron James, should be in the Ugliest.

[Bryant24Participant]

iggy Marquis Daniels is ugly too

[JNixonParticipant]

“Lebron James, should be in the Ugliest.”

He does have that Crimson Chin off the Fairly Oddparents feel to him huh?

[Bryant24Participant]

I like Rudy Gay but he should also be on least likey to pass

[WizardofOzParticipant]

Chris Kaman should be on the ugliest list. He looks like a caveman.

Michael Ruffin has gotta be up there too.

[Bryant24Participant]

Dirk Nowitzki looks like the caveman from the geico commercial

[JNixonParticipant]

I don’t think Monta Ellis is a better pure scorer than anyone I put on that list honestly. Look at the gimmicky offense he plays in. He’s a top-notch scorer, but over the guys I listed? I don’t see it.

[R-Dot-13Participant]

I think you should make a “most clutch” top 10 list too

[flybobbyflyParticipant]

these lists would have been tough to make granted, but i can still think of guys you missed on almost every list. heres some

scorers:
monta
and bosh wont even get 20 this year

6th man:
mike miller, micheal pietrus

defenders:
Josh Smith

Passers:
I like your list but D-will belongs at the top

[ChrischiParticipant]

I think Melo is the best scorer. Durant has a way bigger role offensivly with OKC, than Melo has with the Nuggets. Durant has more range, but Melo has better post game and is more of a bully. I would put Kobe second, simply for the fact that that was Durants first real good season, while Melo and Kobe have proven themselves for several seasons and less of a role offensivly because they have better 2nd-4th options.

[ChrischiParticipant]

Monta does not belong in the top-scorer list. He is one of the most overrated guys in the nba.

[billykParticipant]

Al Thorton should be higher on the list for players that are least likely to pass… The guys literally shoots the ball every time he touches it..

[ChrischiParticipant]

Are you blind billyk?

[WizardofOzParticipant]

billyk never said he wasn’t on the list, he said he should be higher on the list, You’re the one who’s blind.

[JNixonParticipant]

@flybobbyguy

Just because Bosh won’t get 20 a game next year doesn’t mean he’s not an elite scorer. Look at who he’ll be playing with. He’s a top-notch scorer in the NBA, playing with 2 top 5 ppg scorers doesn’t change that to me.

Deron Williams isn’t a better passer than Steve Nash, so he doesn’t belong at the top. Anything below that is a matter of opinion.

Mikael Pietrus isn’t a top 10 6th man. And Mike Miller is going to start next year.

Josh SMith isn’t an elite man-to-man defender. I live in Atlanta, go to Hawks games, and watch them play on most nights that I don’t go to games. He’s a shot-blocker and rebounder, but he doesn’t defend that great man-to-man.

[WizardofOzParticipant]

Nick Young should be on the “least likely to pass” list. He shoots the ball everytime he gets it.

[SubZeroParticipant]

1. I’d put Lamar Odom over Jason Terry on the 6th man
2. Is Derrick Rose really a 2nd option? He’s the best scorer on his team. I would rather him score more than Boozer
3. You’re right about Joakim Noah lol

[SkyscraperParticipant]

anyone who calls lebron a second option is a piece trash and doesn’t know jack

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

Lamar Odom is the best 6th man. Yeah Crawford scores more, but Odom rebounds, passes, and scores. he can take over games without even scoring, can’t the say the same about Crawford.

[Demarcus OnealParticipant]

Man i honestly think that Dwight Howard is an ovveratted defender he gets alot of blocks and defends the besket well but in actual mam to man defense he doesnt play good defense he just relies on his athleticism to make great plays but doesnt have good techinal defense

[JNixonParticipant]

“anyone who calls lebron a second option is a piece trash and doesn’t know jack”

Salty?

[WizardofOzParticipant]

Yi Jianlian should be on the list of “most softest”, but overall your list is pretty good. +1.

[Michael.S.Participant]

“anyone who calls lebron a second option doesn’t know jack”

agreed. that sounds dumb.

[gregoden08Participant]

Dwight is not an overrated defender lol. That is just crazy. He is by far the best defensive player in the NBA.

[Demarcus OnealParticipant]

hes a second option for being selfish or least likely to pass wouldnt you rather have him 2d team then first team lol

[ChiefSixOneParticipant]

Derrick Rose second option??

[CelticJayhawkParticipant]

That gum wall in seattle’s pretty nifty

[llperez]

i think jason kapono has to be in top 10 shooters. I saw a video clip where he went around the arc with the 5 balls at 5 stations like in the 3 point shootout, and he hit 24 of the 25 shots. He gets his feet set, and there might not be a man in the league i expect to go down more then him.

[SubZeroParticipant]

Lebron will be a 2nd option in Miami because he will be more of a facilitator. Wade will score the most on the Heat. Lebron will score around 23 and 8-9 assists, maybe 10. He’ll also give Wade the reins at the end of the game when they need a big shot, so technically he’s a 2nd option now. Doesn’t mean he’s not the best player on his team

[llperez]

i also have to really disagree with some of the second options. How are rose and DWill second options? They have the ball, they decide who shoots and when they want to shoot and they will lead the team inscoring. They are first options. ANd Rashard lewis hasnt been the number 2 option in orlando for a while. Hedo was better 2 years ago and last year vince and jameer were both ahead of him.

[JNixonParticipant]

Jason Kapono does deserve a spot on the shooter list.

I think they will be 2nd options because I think:

Al Jefferson will be the leading scorer for Utah, with Williams being the 2nd leading scorer, and I think Rose will be the 2nd leading scorer behind Carlos Boozer. They both are the best players on those teams, but they are 2nd option scorers.

[llperez]

i guess to me first option does not necessarily mean who leads the team in scoring. It is the guy who is the man with the ball who makes the plays and will either score or set everyone else up.

either way, wasnt trying to nit pick overall great pciks and those were just a few that i disagreed with.

[JNixonParticipant]

Oh its cool. I understand what you mean. I just was thinking 2nd option in terms of scoring, that’s all.

[SteroidParticipant]

Greg Oden should be in the top half, at least, for the ugliest. This dude looks like he’s about 50 years old..

http://www.andrewteman.org/images/oden.jpg

[JNixonParticipant]

How the HELL, did I forget Greg Oden for the ugly list. SMH

[McDunkin]

could you consider hedo for the ugly list

and sasha for the softest?

[Da1potParticipant]

Good list, I just think there should be two categories for defense, perimeter and post…

[primetime24kParticipant]

I think the most interesting list is….

Fastest With the Ball:
Ty Lawson
Devin Harris
Rajon Rondo
Derrick Rose
Aaron Brooks
T.J. Ford
Brandon Jennings
Monta Ellis
Roddy Beaubois
Russell Westbrook

I would LOVE to see a race with the ball… I know everyone is overwhelmed with Ty’s speed, but I think Drose, Monta, and Russell can put up a hell of a fight…

I would also love to see a top 10 clutch list

[TRC1991Participant]

Top 10 clutch:
Kobe Bryant
Dwyane Wade
Dirk Nowitzki
Carmelo Anthony
Deron Williams
Brandon Roy
Paul Pierce
Chris Bosh
Joe Johnson
Derek Fisher

[JNixonParticipant]

Jamal Crawford is more clutch than Joe Johnson, and Turkoglu is very clutch as well. But I like that list

[primetime24kParticipant]

Where’s Mr. Big Shot… Billups?

[TRC1991Participant]

im not gonna lie, chauncey WAS mr. big shot back in detroit…i think his numbers were overrated this year, he played quite a few games without carmelo and had to shoot the ball a lot more

very nice call on jamal crawford…he is very clutch

[omphalosParticipant]

Like the lists, just a couple of things; Kobe should be in the top 10 shooters and maybe Barbosa should be in fastest with the ball? They do call him the Brazilian Blur after all. I love that Von Wafer just got signed again and is already back on the ball hogging list haha.

[DraftDanteCunninghamParticipant]

Mayo should be on that shooters list…..his j is as pure and pretty as it gets

[SubZeroParticipant]

+1 for that picture of Oden, Steroid lol

[the fanParticipant]

Rondo is not faster then Rose. No way. I think Thabo should be a little bit higher too, other then that looks great.

[idunnonymoreParticipant]

wow all the fastest are pg

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

– I don’t like LeBron, but he’s a first option. We all know he is, despite his flaws.

– Monta Ellis is one of the top ten scorers in the NBA. I think Amare Stoudemire is too.

– I think JR Smith is ranked too high on the 6th man list. I’d take Hinrich, Battier and Young over him. Maybe even Ibaka, despite him not being a scorer. Smith is too one dimensional for me and takes too many bad shots… Poor decisions.

– I think Dwayne Wade is a top ten passer in the NBA. I’d put Deron Williams over Rondo as a passer. Jennings was ranked 17th in the NBA in assists, so I don’t know how he’s in the top ten.

– Steve Novak and Jason Kapono should be on the shooters list.

[OhCanada-Participant]

I love the lists, but at the same time it’s funny that if anyone else made these lists it would be full of critisism and negatives.

Also..exactly how is Rose and Williams considered as second options when Jefferson and Boozer havent even played a single minute for their respective teams?

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Rose and Williams are definitely the first options on their current teams, but on a championship caliber team, they’d be best as second options.

[OhCanada-Participant]

What makes Bargnani any softer than Nowitzki?

Also why is Villanueva and Hibbert on the soft list. Charlie V. tried to fight Jermaine Oneal.

[JNixonParticipant]

Would you think the Jazz picked up Al Jefferson to be the 2nd leading scorer to a PG? Or do you think Chicago forked all that money to Boozer so he could be a 2nd option to a PG?

Think about it……No team really wants their PG to lead them in scoring, especially if they fork all that money or go out of their way to get guys who look to score. I believe Williams and Rose will be the 2nd leading scorers next year.

[OhCanada-Participant]

If anything Bosh should be on the soft list way ahead of Bargnani. If it is due to the rebounds than I understand, but Bargnani gives hard fouls, doesnt get dunked on and averages 1.5 blocks. Stoudemire should be on the soft list if Bargnani is.

[JNixonParticipant]

Andrea Bargnani is soft….Softer than Dirk man. He doesn’t do any of the dirty work required of a man his size. Dirk will play with his back to the basket and bang some, and he’s a relatively willing rebounder, especially in comparison to Bargnani. I know you’re a Raptors fan but ONCE AGAIN, that doesn’t mean they are immune to having shortcomings.

Villanueva and Roy Hibbert are soft players too. Nobody considers either a guy you would want to stick up for you and neither are bangers who play physical.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Iggy they still have to prove it thou, they havent played a single minute. Yes I also do think they would fork over that much cash for a 2nd option.

Williams averaged 25 PPG in the playoffs and Boozer averages 20PPG. Do you think Rose will be that much different than Williams role and do you think Jefferson will be that much different than Boozers role.

If so what are thier projected averages.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

IF we’re going off of points scored, then I guess you can say that Williams and Rose will be second options.

However, they’ll dominate the ball and make majority of the decisions. Not only that, they’ll have the ball with the game on the line and take all of the key shots.

[OhCanada-Participant]

First of all youre right Im a Raptors fan..so what..

Second of all Bellinelli should probally be number 1 on that list. He is the softest player I’ve ever watched play the game.

Third of all once again I try to tell the people watching Toronto 2 times a year from America, Bargnani has better post skills than most players in the league. Bosh and Bargnani on the floor was a good duo. Bargnani has great perimeter skills that compliment Bosh’s post skills. Sou why would Bargnani be posting up?

Seriously? Bellinelli isnt as soft as Bargnani?

Ask any Raptor fan. If Bargnani MAKES the soft list it is because he isnt a gritty enough rebounder. Not because he doesnt mix it up like he does with Dwight Howard everytime D-12 comes into town. He held Howard to around 40% shooting this year.

[JNixonParticipant]

I don’t know what they’ll average exactly…but I’m extremely sure that Chicago brought Boozer in to be their 1st option, Derrick Rose led them in socring purely out of necessity last season. They didn’t have any offensive players that were capable of averaging more than Rose, except maybe Deng…..and he hasn’t played great since like 3 or 4 years ago it seems.

Jefferson is a bit more selfish than Boozer and won’t operate in the same role. I fully expect him to average more than Williams too. He’s a better pure scorer than Boozer too. Has to count for something.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Maybe during the Regular Season, but in the Playoffs there is no chance Boozer or Jefferson averages more than Rose or Williams.

[JNixonParticipant]

I already said that’s what I was basing 1st option off of. Who scores the most. I understand they will be the best players on the team, but I’m basing my 2nd option list on who scores the 2nd most on a team.

You’re biased OhCanada, that’s why it matters. NOBODY would make an argument that Andrea Bargnani isn’t soft except a biased fan. He’s very soft. Nobody considers him even kind of tough. He doesn’t rebound, is a bad defender (fouling hard is a sign of bad/out-of-position defense if you didn’t know), and he would much rather face up and shy away from contact than play down low and score through contact. Trying to say that Dirk is softer pretty much illustrates that you don’t open your eyes to anything other than your favorite players.

[JNixonParticipant]

Don’t you base stats off of the regular season? Playoff stats aren’t nearly as official as regular season stats. They will score more in the regular season and that’s what I’m going off of.

[OhCanada-Participant]

All I’m going to say is watch him play before you critisize him. He isnt as soft as you think and if you watched him play and be the most active defender in the paint for Toronto this year (which isnt saying much) you would stick up for him too.

Watch the guy play with an unbiast opinion this Season. Consider the fact that he is playing out of position and dont listen to what the media tells you. As I said, other than his rebounding woes, Bargnani is not nearly as soft as you think. Yes I am going to stick up for the Raptors when they are BIASTLY ranked on negative lists.

Youre telling me Galinari isnt softer than Bargnani? Come on man get it together.

[JNixonParticipant]

Yeah you have no idea what you’re talking about LOL….You keep throwing out all these other players that aren’t nearly as soft as Bargs is, and you’re reason for sticking up for him is “he was the only guy who tried on D for us” on one of the worst defensive teams in the NBA.

How am I biased talking about Bargnani, and I don’t care about him and I’m not a fan of Toronto? It always helps to use words that you actually know the meaning to.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Youre list should not have had Galinari higher than Bargnani?

[JNixonParticipant]

NO. Gallinari isn’t one of the 10 softest. He makes effort plays on D, rebounds decent from the wing, and doesn’t shy from contact or back down from challenges.

I can’t say any of that about Bargnani.

[OhCanada-Participant]

So you are saying Bargnani doesnt make effort plays on D…When have you watched Bargnani play? I can unbiastly tell you everytime a player posts up Bargnani it will be difficult to score on him. You are the one who is biastly rating Bargnani based on general conseption and frankly its annoying because that is how you evaluate every player in the league. Based on general consecption. I can tell you about Bargnani because I watched him play at least 70 games from beggining to end this year.

Why don’t you tell me about Elton Brand and Andre Igoudala.

[OhCanada-Participant]

There are at least 4 Toronto Raptors who played softer than Andrea Bargnani last year.

Calderon
Bellinelli
Nesterovic
Turkoglu

If you dont agree with that, you need to reassess everything you think you know about the league immediatly.

[JNixonParticipant]

I love biased fans. I love it. Absolutely amazing. Do you really think I’m going to talk about Bargnani if I don’t watch him play? Just because he’s SOFT, doesn’t mean I don’t watch him play. If you think he’s tough and tries on D, that is on you.

[JNixonParticipant]

“If you dont agree with that, you need to reassess everything you think you know about the league immediatly.”

Yeah the person that doesn’t know how to use (or spell) bias correctly in a sentence is just sooooo right about everything. -____-

[OhCanada-Participant]

What does spelling have to do with this?

Good point you are right! Bargnani is soft. I cant spell and thats why Bargnani is soft! You are 100% correct.

NOWAY BARGNANI IS SOFTER THAN TURKOGLU, BELLINELLI, CALDERON OR NESTEROVIC.

Now tell me why you think those 4 players are tougher than Bargnani?

[JNixonParticipant]

Just because Turkoglu didn’t fit with Toronto doesn’t mean he’s soft. He’s actually not someone I’d consider soft. He needs the right role to be effective, but would you really consider that soft?

Bellinari is soft, but to me not softer than Bargnani. The Raptors are a soft team, Bargnani plays the most and is the softest IMO. I’ll just leave it at that. I’ve pretty much explained why I think Bargs is soft. I’m not backtracking. If you think you think he’s tough, that’s you. But I don’t so, I’m agreeing to disagree. I’m not going to keep going on about this guy, who is no doubt one of the softest players to everyone but you.

[OhCanada-Participant]

Andrea Bargnani actaully looks for his post up quite often sometimes forcing it due to the fact that Jack, and Calderon are reluctant to feed him the ball in the post due to Bosh`s presence. Bargnani`s role was not post offense, and believe me half the time he got post position he was not feeded the ball. His rebounding is medicre at best but wwith Bosh off the team he wouldve averaged at least 8 rpg. Bosh steals alot rebounds from him and due to the fact that he plays out of positin at C he is mostly asked to box out the larger more aggressive C player as Amir Johnson and Chris Bosh collect the loose ball. As a C Bargnani has only missed 6 (COUNT THEM) 6 games in the past 3 years playing above 30MPG. Last year Bargnani was 17th in Blocks Per Game and 14th in Overall Blocks in the NBA. He mixes it up. He sometimes even throws smaller players to the ground when there is a mouse in the house (tossing around Vince Carter and Fransisco Garcia).

Finesse does not mean soft by any means. Saying he doesnt put effort into defending is not true. Bargnani doesnt put enough effort into rebounding I agree. Now with Bosh gone and you critics critisising he will be forced to take a more prominent rebounding role. Call me biast idc, I watch the Raptors games and Ièm gonna tell you what I see.

NO WAY YOU CAN BE ON THE TOP 20 SHOTBLOCKERS LIST AND THE TOP 10 SOFT PLAYERS LIST.

Thats all bullshit ok. Call me Biast go ahead. But that is all bullshit.

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