James Harden: Defensive Juggernaut & 11 minutes of Shame

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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 2:01pm #54993

i’m jus so offended
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Video came to my attention on Reddit. I don’t know how to embed from an iPad so here is the link to an 11 minute video of James Harden playing the most lazy, uninterested defense I’ve ever seen. Especially from an All Star caliber player. Does he even watch game film? Is he capable of learning and correcting mistakes? Does McHale even care? Almost unbearable to watch. Anyways, it’s worth checking out a few minutes of this garbage: https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=wVYJULACcao
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 2:16pm #891654

OhCanada-
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Wow that defence wouldnt be acceptable in an allstar game. Maybe I need to watch more Rockets games before making this assumption but this is likely being blown out of proportion. I remember Harden being a good defender with OKC. He likely just takes a couple plays off per game when he is gased.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:27pm #891690
  
  i’m jus so offended
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  Naw man. That’s not acceptable. I saw him lose Matthews on a back cut last night. If he is more aware in that situation and probably others, that game doesn’t go to overtime. Rockets win. A mental lapse or lack of effort on one play can be the difference.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:27pm #891801
  
  i’m jus so offended
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  Naw man. That’s not acceptable. I saw him lose Matthews on a back cut last night. If he is more aware in that situation and probably others, that game doesn’t go to overtime. Rockets win. A mental lapse or lack of effort on one play can be the difference.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 2:16pm #891765

OhCanada-
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Wow that defence wouldnt be acceptable in an allstar game. Maybe I need to watch more Rockets games before making this assumption but this is likely being blown out of proportion. I remember Harden being a good defender with OKC. He likely just takes a couple plays off per game when he is gased.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 2:53pm #891672

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I’m sure you could find lapses like this for almost every NBA player if you wanted. He may take the cake as the worst though…smh
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:25pm #891688
  
  i’m jus so offended
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  Agreed but not to this degree. I bet Paul George and Lebrons low lights would not even come close to this.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:25pm #891799
  
  i’m jus so offended
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  Agreed but not to this degree. I bet Paul George and Lebrons low lights would not even come close to this.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 2:53pm #891783

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I’m sure you could find lapses like this for almost every NBA player if you wanted. He may take the cake as the worst though…smh
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 2:58pm #891676

FastAndFurious
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Pathetic
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 2:58pm #891787

FastAndFurious
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Pathetic
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:19pm #891684

toruk
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He made luke babbit look really good on that video
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:49pm #891692
  
  Hector_Reyes_8
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  I thought the same thing! A man as athletic and strong as Harden should NOT be allowing the century-old Ray Allen and Luke friggin Babbitt score on him so easily. Pathetic…
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:49pm #891803
  
  Hector_Reyes_8
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  I thought the same thing! A man as athletic and strong as Harden should NOT be allowing the century-old Ray Allen and Luke friggin Babbitt score on him so easily. Pathetic…
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:19pm #891795

toruk
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He made luke babbit look really good on that video
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:55pm #891696

Hector_Reyes_8
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I hope I am not the only one that laughed. How is he considered the best 2 guard when he cant defend my grandfather?
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:58pm #891700
  
  i’m jus so offended
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  This
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:58pm #891811
  
  i’m jus so offended
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  This
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 3:55pm #891807

Hector_Reyes_8
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I hope I am not the only one that laughed. How is he considered the best 2 guard when he cant defend my grandfather?
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 4:14pm #891702

For_Never_Ever
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One thing about him on defense is he always has his arms down by his body.
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 4:31pm #891712
  
  Lotto Stud
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  If you ask me it’s more like a pat on the back while they blow by. (Good job pats)
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 4:31pm #891823
  
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  If you ask me it’s more like a pat on the back while they blow by. (Good job pats)
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 4:14pm #891813

For_Never_Ever
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One thing about him on defense is he always has his arms down by his body.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 4:44pm #891716

Magic Jordan
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He’s let’s them go by so he can slap them on the ass.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 4:44pm #891827

Magic Jordan
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He’s let’s them go by so he can slap them on the ass.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:08pm #891754

imAboutDatAction
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anybody notice the gameplan early on for portland yesterday?
" go right at Harden every possesion"
thats what i’d honestly do every play. he obviously doesnt care for defense and puts him at a higher risk of collecting fouls.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:08pm #891865

imAboutDatAction
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anybody notice the gameplan early on for portland yesterday?
" go right at Harden every possesion"
thats what i’d honestly do every play. he obviously doesnt care for defense and puts him at a higher risk of collecting fouls.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:16pm #891760

Land of Grant
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I really don’t like watching Harden. Ugly drives, bailout fouls, terrible defense. He’s a good playmaker but I’d rather have Klay Thompson or Arron Afflalo on my team. The other thing is, he can’t play off-ball. The only time he’s an asset to his team is when he has the ball.
JAMES SOFTEN!

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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:24pm #891768
  
  imAboutDatAction
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  listen, he has serious flaws on the defensive end..but everybody would take Harden over Thompson and Afflalo.
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  - Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:37pm #891778
    
    Land of Grant
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    No! Those guys are cheaper, better shooters, and can score with and without the ball, as well as being very good defenders, especially Thompson, who is one of the top perimeter defenders in the NBA. He locked down CP3 in game 1, Paul was 8-23.
    Okay, I’d take Harden over Afflalo, but not Thompson. Harden has the star rep that Klay doesn’t but I don’t consider a player who mails in 50% of the game a star.
    How bout this analogy – Harden is a 10/10 offensive player, but a 1/10 defensive player. That’s 11/20. Klay is an 8/10 offensive player, and a 9/10 defensive player. That’s 17/20.
    17/20 > 11/20.
    
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  - Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:37pm #891889
    
    Land of Grant
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    No! Those guys are cheaper, better shooters, and can score with and without the ball, as well as being very good defenders, especially Thompson, who is one of the top perimeter defenders in the NBA. He locked down CP3 in game 1, Paul was 8-23.
    Okay, I’d take Harden over Afflalo, but not Thompson. Harden has the star rep that Klay doesn’t but I don’t consider a player who mails in 50% of the game a star.
    How bout this analogy – Harden is a 10/10 offensive player, but a 1/10 defensive player. That’s 11/20. Klay is an 8/10 offensive player, and a 9/10 defensive player. That’s 17/20.
    17/20 > 11/20.
    
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- Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:24pm #891879
  
  imAboutDatAction
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  listen, he has serious flaws on the defensive end..but everybody would take Harden over Thompson and Afflalo.
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:16pm #891871

Land of Grant
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I really don’t like watching Harden. Ugly drives, bailout fouls, terrible defense. He’s a good playmaker but I’d rather have Klay Thompson or Arron Afflalo on my team. The other thing is, he can’t play off-ball. The only time he’s an asset to his team is when he has the ball.
JAMES SOFTEN!

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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:59pm #891790

livinlegend4blk
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If NBA 2k don’t put his defensive awareness down by next year something wrong lol
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 6:59pm #891900

livinlegend4blk
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If NBA 2k don’t put his defensive awareness down by next year something wrong lol
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 8:12pm #891912

ericpalmer4
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The worst part to me is how many of these clips came from the fourth quarter of a tight game.
Also, I wonder how many times his lack of effort on D put Dwight in early foul trouble…
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Posted on: Mon, 04/21/2014 - 8:12pm #891802

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The worst part to me is how many of these clips came from the fourth quarter of a tight game.
Also, I wonder how many times his lack of effort on D put Dwight in early foul trouble…
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Posted on: Tue, 04/22/2014 - 3:57am #891978

Cynthia
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This is absurd! I haven’t watched him much since he left OKC. It’s almost like the stardom has got to his head and he just doesn’t care about defense at all and is only focused on points.
It kind of makes you wonder if having his 25 PPG is worth giving up 25 PPG?
According to basketball reference he’s ranked 252 in defensive efficiency…
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Posted on: Tue, 04/22/2014 - 3:57am #891868

Cynthia
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This is absurd! I haven’t watched him much since he left OKC. It’s almost like the stardom has got to his head and he just doesn’t care about defense at all and is only focused on points.
It kind of makes you wonder if having his 25 PPG is worth giving up 25 PPG?
According to basketball reference he’s ranked 252 in defensive efficiency…
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Posted on: Tue, 04/22/2014 - 4:24am #891982

Taylor Gang Mike
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Jimmy No Defense Harden
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Posted on: Tue, 04/22/2014 - 4:24am #891872

Taylor Gang Mike
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Jimmy No Defense Harden
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/25/2014 - 7:43pm #893799
  
  Lotto Stud
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  James "F*ck Defense" Harden
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- Posted on: Fri, 04/25/2014 - 7:43pm #893687
  
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  James "F*ck Defense" Harden
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