[valentine]

 journaltimes.com/sports/basketball/bucks-beat-parker-looking-good-real-good/article_b0760841-d680-5420-9a0a-b5fa80f3d6b5.html

It might sound great, but defensively that really hurts the Bucks having Jabari at PF instead of Giannis. At least Jabari has great bulk for putting a body on guys, even if his standing reach is 8’7" or whatever.

This is not a well balanced team, though somewhat talented on paper.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 I think Jabari probably weighs closer to 265 than 255.

2014 draft workout: "he weighed 254 pounds with 11 percent body fat in the Bucks’ workout"

He should be like a more skilled Randle now, but Randle I think will end up as a bench scorer because of his defensive

 shortcomings. At least once the Lakers stop tanking with real talent.

Jabari if he can become a scoring superstar could probably still obviously remain a starter, but his lack of defense and

3 point shot is not a great combination for the way the NBA is trending.

Think David Lee, with less rebounds. Still probably a starter on most teams, but Jabari and the Bucks really need to add a stretch center and/or a 3 point shooting PG ASAP.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 I think Jabari probably weighs closer to 265 than 255.

2014 draft workout: "he weighed 254 pounds with 11 percent body fat in the Bucks’ workout"

He should be like a more skilled Randle now, but Randle I think will end up as a bench scorer because of his defensive

 shortcomings. At least once the Lakers stop tanking with real talent.

Jabari if he can become a scoring superstar could probably still obviously remain a starter, but his lack of defense and

3 point shot is not a great combination for the way the NBA is trending.

Think David Lee, with less rebounds. Still probably a starter on most teams, but Jabari and the Bucks really need to add a stretch center and/or a 3 point shooting PG ASAP.

 

 

 

 

[high floorParticipant]

Whew… I love ya T-rex but I can’t let you compare my boy Jabari to David Lee.

David Lee is, has, and always will be a 15ft and in player. Jabari has Dyanamic-stretch 4 written all over him presently and in the future. No he won’t be a great defensive player with average, to slightly below average lateral movement.. but he’ll be passable with his frame, overall athleticism and also with the league trending to smaller PF’s.

Furthermore, I feel the Bucks as a whole have a HUGE ceiling. I like their prospects as a franchise-on-the-rise as much as any team in the league. In addition to Jabari, both Middleton and Giannis are a super versatile for their positions. My only question is MCW. The Bucks were a much better team with a health Jabari and Brandon Knight spreading the floor with his 3pt shooting. Still, this team could sniff 50 wins this year and a top 3 seed without surprising me the least.

 

 

 

 

 

[high floorParticipant]

Whew… I love ya T-rex but I can’t let you compare my boy Jabari to David Lee.

David Lee is, has, and always will be a 15ft and in player. Jabari has Dyanamic-stretch 4 written all over him presently and in the future. No he won’t be a great defensive player with average, to slightly below average lateral movement.. but he’ll be passable with his frame, overall athleticism and also with the league trending to smaller PF’s.

Furthermore, I feel the Bucks as a whole have a HUGE ceiling. I like their prospects as a franchise-on-the-rise as much as any team in the league. In addition to Jabari, both Middleton and Giannis are a super versatile for their positions. My only question is MCW. The Bucks were a much better team with a health Jabari and Brandon Knight spreading the floor with his 3pt shooting. Still, this team could sniff 50 wins this year and a top 3 seed without surprising me the least.

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 A Jabari-Monroe frontcourt is probably the worst in the NBA. 

And Jabari’s versatility is only on the offensive side. Defensively, he’s very much the opposite of versatile. There isn’t even one position he’s well suited to defend. Much like David Lee.

Maybe Jabari can be like a prime David Lee plus ball handling, which might even be a 5 time all star, but I strongly suspect his stats will always be somewhat empty because of what he gives up on the defensive end.

 

 

[T Rex]

 A Jabari-Monroe frontcourt is probably the worst in the NBA. 

And Jabari’s versatility is only on the offensive side. Defensively, he’s very much the opposite of versatile. There isn’t even one position he’s well suited to defend. Much like David Lee.

Maybe Jabari can be like a prime David Lee plus ball handling, which might even be a 5 time all star, but I strongly suspect his stats will always be somewhat empty because of what he gives up on the defensive end.

 

 

[T Rex]

 When I talk about empty stats, take a look at his game logs from last year, and look at the +/- he had in each game: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parkeja01/gamelog/2015/

He had tons of double digit negative point +/-, and only a few "+" impact games against teams outside of the 76ers, Wolves, and Knicks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 When I talk about empty stats, take a look at his game logs from last year, and look at the +/- he had in each game: http://www.basketball-reference.com/players/p/parkeja01/gamelog/2015/

He had tons of double digit negative point +/-, and only a few "+" impact games against teams outside of the 76ers, Wolves, and Knicks.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Even though Jabari only played 35 games, he was second to worst in overall +/- and +/- per game and per 36 minutes, to MCW.

Pachulia and Jared Dudley just-so-happened to be on the court when the Bucks were playing very well, and those guys are gone now. From a plus minus perspective, only Middleton remains, as far as guys who were on the court when the Bucks were actually playing winning basketball.

As I’ve said elsewhere, the Bucks season was a tale of two seasons, and the Bucks have lost almost all of the guys who made a significant impact on winning, as far as plus minus numbers go.

Bucks might actually be about the most overrated team going into this season.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nba/stats/individual-player-plus-minus-statistics/2014/

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Even though Jabari only played 35 games, he was second to worst in overall +/- and +/- per game and per 36 minutes, to MCW.

Pachulia and Jared Dudley just-so-happened to be on the court when the Bucks were playing very well, and those guys are gone now. From a plus minus perspective, only Middleton remains, as far as guys who were on the court when the Bucks were actually playing winning basketball.

As I’ve said elsewhere, the Bucks season was a tale of two seasons, and the Bucks have lost almost all of the guys who made a significant impact on winning, as far as plus minus numbers go.

Bucks might actually be about the most overrated team going into this season.

http://www.sportingcharts.com/nba/stats/individual-player-plus-minus-statistics/2014/

 

 

 

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 Seriously, you need to get your rookie expectations in check! ROOKIES DONT WIN GAMES. They can be exciting, they can be promising, but only a select few can carry a team as a rookie. Rookies arn’t supposed to have good +/- averages. They rarely ever have good +/- averages. Show me a players +/- in his third year and then I’ll see some value in those numbers.

You need to stop thinking that every rookie coming into the league is the next perrenial all star ready to save a franchise. I can’t wait to see what you say next summer about Turner and Portzingis because neither of them are sniffing the all star game for at least 3 years minimum.

I love talking bball with you because your ideas are different, but to compare Jabari to David Lee… DAVID F*IN LEE… the only appropriate description for that is stupid. Very, very stupid.

 

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 Seriously, you need to get your rookie expectations in check! ROOKIES DONT WIN GAMES. They can be exciting, they can be promising, but only a select few can carry a team as a rookie. Rookies arn’t supposed to have good +/- averages. They rarely ever have good +/- averages. Show me a players +/- in his third year and then I’ll see some value in those numbers.

You need to stop thinking that every rookie coming into the league is the next perrenial all star ready to save a franchise. I can’t wait to see what you say next summer about Turner and Portzingis because neither of them are sniffing the all star game for at least 3 years minimum.

I love talking bball with you because your ideas are different, but to compare Jabari to David Lee… DAVID F*IN LEE… the only appropriate description for that is stupid. Very, very stupid.

 

 

[T Rex]

 

An hour ago you would have called the idea of Jabari being a full time PF stupid, even after his acl.

Now who knows how long it will take you to wrap your head around a Parker-Monroe frontcourt being terrible defensively. I’m sure in your mind it’s a fantastic defensive duo, lol.

 

[T Rex]

 

An hour ago you would have called the idea of Jabari being a full time PF stupid, even after his acl.

Now who knows how long it will take you to wrap your head around a Parker-Monroe frontcourt being terrible defensively. I’m sure in your mind it’s a fantastic defensive duo, lol.

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 below average in rim protection obviously. Below average in post D. They will be fine defensive rebounding together.

While Monroe and Parker together might seem troublesome, the length of MCW, Middleton, Giannas will help significantly and their defense will still be what carries them. Plus, they are bringing Vasquez and Henson off the bench and both has great size and length for their position.

If Parker really is the one who picks up the other teams 4’s, I expect the pg, sg and sf to give a lot of help, and I don’t think they will be burned nearly as bad as you think.

 

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 below average in rim protection obviously. Below average in post D. They will be fine defensive rebounding together.

While Monroe and Parker together might seem troublesome, the length of MCW, Middleton, Giannas will help significantly and their defense will still be what carries them. Plus, they are bringing Vasquez and Henson off the bench and both has great size and length for their position.

If Parker really is the one who picks up the other teams 4’s, I expect the pg, sg and sf to give a lot of help, and I don’t think they will be burned nearly as bad as you think.

 

 

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 You are looking at those +/- numbers totally out of context.  The team’s starters in general were terrible early in the season.  Brandon Knight also had awful +/- numbers early in the season.  Over the first three months of the season, the bench carried the team.

Also, the Bucks had the 2nd best defensive efficiency in the league with Zaza and Ersan as the PF/C duo.  Yeah, they do need Jabari to make progress as a defender and Monroe needs to show that he can defend the center position better than PF, which I think he certainly can, but I don’t think the defense is going to collapse or anything, even if it does regress next season.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 You are looking at those +/- numbers totally out of context.  The team’s starters in general were terrible early in the season.  Brandon Knight also had awful +/- numbers early in the season.  Over the first three months of the season, the bench carried the team.

Also, the Bucks had the 2nd best defensive efficiency in the league with Zaza and Ersan as the PF/C duo.  Yeah, they do need Jabari to make progress as a defender and Monroe needs to show that he can defend the center position better than PF, which I think he certainly can, but I don’t think the defense is going to collapse or anything, even if it does regress next season.

[T Rex]

“Also, the Bucks had the 2nd best defensive efficiency in the league with Zaza and Ersan as the PF/C duo.”

Ahh, memories.

[T Rex]

“Also, the Bucks had the 2nd best defensive efficiency in the league with Zaza and Ersan as the PF/C duo.”

Ahh, memories.

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

He is either taller than they list him as or other PF’s are shorter than their actual list height because in the video with Blake Griffin and Chris Paul, Jabari was taller than Blake who is listed at 6’10. His weight isnt really a problem because hes more muscular which means that he most likely has a lower body fat and the higher weight is just what happenned when he put on more muscle. According to draftexpress, his wingspan is only an inch shorter than the average wingspan of Power Forwards taken in the first round. His lateral quickness is also above average for the Power Forward position

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

He is either taller than they list him as or other PF’s are shorter than their actual list height because in the video with Blake Griffin and Chris Paul, Jabari was taller than Blake who is listed at 6’10. His weight isnt really a problem because hes more muscular which means that he most likely has a lower body fat and the higher weight is just what happenned when he put on more muscle. According to draftexpress, his wingspan is only an inch shorter than the average wingspan of Power Forwards taken in the first round. His lateral quickness is also above average for the Power Forward position

[T Rex]

 Jabari’s standing reach, 8’8" is 2" shorter than the average NBA PF, which is 8’10".

And this year’s rookie class was filled with PFs with 9’+ standing reaches. 

Jabari was drafted alongside Julius Randle, whose 8’9" standing reach made Jabari’s 8’8" reach look a lot closer to average than it actually is.

And the Jabari-Randle draft came one year after superstar Anthony Bennett went #1. In other words, 6’8" PFs with weak standing reach numbers were all the rage, lol.

Then came The Year of the Power Forward, and made those three look like little munchkins.

Which they are.

 

[T Rex]

 Jabari’s standing reach, 8’8" is 2" shorter than the average NBA PF, which is 8’10".

And this year’s rookie class was filled with PFs with 9’+ standing reaches. 

Jabari was drafted alongside Julius Randle, whose 8’9" standing reach made Jabari’s 8’8" reach look a lot closer to average than it actually is.

And the Jabari-Randle draft came one year after superstar Anthony Bennett went #1. In other words, 6’8" PFs with weak standing reach numbers were all the rage, lol.

Then came The Year of the Power Forward, and made those three look like little munchkins.

Which they are.

 

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 According to Chad ford, Parker’s wingspan is 6’11.75 which is basically 7 feet and his standing reach was 8’11.5 

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 According to Chad ford, Parker’s wingspan is 6’11.75 which is basically 7 feet and his standing reach was 8’11.5 

[T Rex]

 According to Chad Ford, D’Angelo Russell has Zach LaVine hops.

just kidding, I don’t doubt Parker’s wingspan. But his standing reach is not good at all. It’s a big red flag actually.

 

 

[T Rex]

 According to Chad Ford, D’Angelo Russell has Zach LaVine hops.

just kidding, I don’t doubt Parker’s wingspan. But his standing reach is not good at all. It’s a big red flag actually.

 

 

[slepchorParticipant]

 Man this is bad IMO.. Jabari for me had the perfect combination of hops and touch for the 3.. being 255 or whatever don’t seem right.. He used to be smooth and lethal.. Being 6’8 and wasting your talent by backing down Gasol or Zbo down low.. smh

[slepchorParticipant]

 Man this is bad IMO.. Jabari for me had the perfect combination of hops and touch for the 3.. being 255 or whatever don’t seem right.. He used to be smooth and lethal.. Being 6’8 and wasting your talent by backing down Gasol or Zbo down low.. smh

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 Just cause Jabari will be playing the Power Forward position does not mean he will be relegated to jump hooks or post moves to score. Offensively he can still play like a 3 which creates a massive mismatch.

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 Just cause Jabari will be playing the Power Forward position does not mean he will be relegated to jump hooks or post moves to score. Offensively he can still play like a 3 which creates a massive mismatch.

[T Rex]

 I agree. He can probably be a poor man’s Barkley, but I don’t see him as a starter on a contender until he has either a floor spacing center or a rim protecting center. Monroe brings neither.

And PF is probably Giannis’ best position. He brings the same sort of mismatch as Jabari, with a whole lot more length/verticality.

 

[T Rex]

 I agree. He can probably be a poor man’s Barkley, but I don’t see him as a starter on a contender until he has either a floor spacing center or a rim protecting center. Monroe brings neither.

And PF is probably Giannis’ best position. He brings the same sort of mismatch as Jabari, with a whole lot more length/verticality.

 

[slepchorParticipant]

 Sure, I know there are many ways to look at it and I didn’t say he will transform into Chuck Hayes haha but why create a mismatch in the first place and not just let the player develop naturally

[slepchorParticipant]

 Sure, I know there are many ways to look at it and I didn’t say he will transform into Chuck Hayes haha but why create a mismatch in the first place and not just let the player develop naturally

[T Rex]

 He weighed 254 at his Bucks pre-draft workout last June, so this doesn’t surprise me at all. Nobody let that sink in, 254 at 19 years old.

"At least 255" sounds like ‘probably 265’ to my ears.

But Parker moved pretty well last year, and I suspect he weighed at least 250-255 while doing so.

But when a player is HUGE at 19 years old, it’s not wise to just assume they will remain the same weight and never gain a pound after the age of 19.

Same goes for Randle. I don’t think it’s a total coincidence that the two Super-Size 6’8" guys both got hurt.

They’re both 6’8", 265 lb PFs, and probably more by their late 20s. No matter what the media guide says.

 

 

[T Rex]

 He weighed 254 at his Bucks pre-draft workout last June, so this doesn’t surprise me at all. Nobody let that sink in, 254 at 19 years old.

"At least 255" sounds like ‘probably 265’ to my ears.

But Parker moved pretty well last year, and I suspect he weighed at least 250-255 while doing so.

But when a player is HUGE at 19 years old, it’s not wise to just assume they will remain the same weight and never gain a pound after the age of 19.

Same goes for Randle. I don’t think it’s a total coincidence that the two Super-Size 6’8" guys both got hurt.

They’re both 6’8", 265 lb PFs, and probably more by their late 20s. No matter what the media guide says.

 

 

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 Jabari and Julius have two completely different body types. Randle is pure muscle while jabari still has alot of fat on him for a pro. They also had different injuries. Gordon, who also is around the same height, has a totally different body type from the other two also and he still got injured. Exum has the same injury jabari did and he is really skinny so i dont see the relation you are trying to make

[T Rex]

 Totally different body types, because Randle is a little more toned?

Lol. They couldn’t be much more similar body-wise. They’re both off-the-charts strong/heavy for 19 year old rookies. Most PFs weigh closer to Aaron Gordon, with hopes of getting up to 245-250 over time. These guys were already breaking the scales as teenage rookies. They’re only going to gain more weight, and it just puts a lot of pressure on their joints (feet/ankles/knees) than lighter guys have to deal with. Not saying their injuries happened exclusively because they are so heavy, but the weight definitely has the effect of making them more injury prone.

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Totally different body types, because Randle is a little more toned?

Lol. They couldn’t be much more similar body-wise. They’re both off-the-charts strong/heavy for 19 year old rookies. Most PFs weigh closer to Aaron Gordon, with hopes of getting up to 245-250 over time. These guys were already breaking the scales as teenage rookies. They’re only going to gain more weight, and it just puts a lot of pressure on their joints (feet/ankles/knees) than lighter guys have to deal with. Not saying their injuries happened exclusively because they are so heavy, but the weight definitely has the effect of making them more injury prone.

 

 

 

 

 

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 Jabari and Julius have two completely different body types. Randle is pure muscle while jabari still has alot of fat on him for a pro. They also had different injuries. Gordon, who also is around the same height, has a totally different body type from the other two also and he still got injured. Exum has the same injury jabari did and he is really skinny so i dont see the relation you are trying to make

[ropeParticipant]

 My take on the standing reach thing is this:

It doesn’t make a lot of sense that a 6′ 8" / 6′ 9" guy with a 7" wingspan only has a standing reach of 8′ 8"

My guess is he didn’t give it a full stretch on the reach, dogging it by a couple inches, if you will.

When guys do this, they make up the inch or two (or four) in the vertical jump.

A few guys were thought to have done it this year and it wouldn’t surprise me if more than a few prospects have done it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Parker’s 8’8" measurement was at the 2013 Hoops Summit. No vertical leaping measurements. He’s never been measured for vertical leap. Maybe Parker added an inch to his standing reach since 2013, but it seems like he stopped growing years ago, like 2011.

Hopefully he can develop good timing for blocking/contesting shots. But it would be much better to have Giannis in there, it would seem, for rim protection and help defense.

 

 

[T Rex]

 Parker’s 8’8" measurement was at the 2013 Hoops Summit. No vertical leaping measurements. He’s never been measured for vertical leap. Maybe Parker added an inch to his standing reach since 2013, but it seems like he stopped growing years ago, like 2011.

Hopefully he can develop good timing for blocking/contesting shots. But it would be much better to have Giannis in there, it would seem, for rim protection and help defense.

 

 

[ropeParticipant]

 My take on the standing reach thing is this:

It doesn’t make a lot of sense that a 6′ 8" / 6′ 9" guy with a 7" wingspan only has a standing reach of 8′ 8"

My guess is he didn’t give it a full stretch on the reach, dogging it by a couple inches, if you will.

When guys do this, they make up the inch or two (or four) in the vertical jump.

A few guys were thought to have done it this year and it wouldn’t surprise me if more than a few prospects have done it.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 Guys, he got fat. This ain’t a good thing. He’s eating himself out of the league. This story is bs. 

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 If you’ve seen pics of him you can definitely tell that he has gained some muscle, especially in the upper body and his arms are much more toned than before.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

http://youtu.be/wz43e9skq9Y that’s fat. I know for a fact, he’s has an uncontrollable eating issue.

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 He’s not fat at all.  He is noticeably leaner now.  Check out Suki Hobson’s twitter (she is the lead trainer for the Bucks).  He has lost fat and added muscle.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch

[B-ball fanParticipant]

 He’s not fat at all.  He is noticeably leaner now.  Check out Suki Hobson’s twitter (she is the lead trainer for the Bucks).  He has lost fat and added muscle.  

http://www.youtube.com/watch

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

http://youtu.be/wz43e9skq9Y that’s fat. I know for a fact, he’s has an uncontrollable eating issue.

[DukeDaSquadParticipant]

 If you’ve seen pics of him you can definitely tell that he has gained some muscle, especially in the upper body and his arms are much more toned than before.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 Guys, he got fat. This ain’t a good thing. He’s eating himself out of the league. This story is bs. 

[Robb_CParticipant]

Why is Jabari adding weight on when he just tore an ACL.. Ask LeBron how much it wore him out playing PF for Miami.. Jabari should of dropped ten pounds to ease the strain on his knee..

[tuck243Participant]

Greg Oden did this stupid ish (gained a ton of muscle after an injury) and he was never able to recover from it…    

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 Jabari is going to surprise people, in a bad way. You’ll understand what I’m talking about within 3-5 years.

[SkalAndJamalParticipant]

 Jabari is going to surprise people, in a bad way. You’ll understand what I’m talking about within 3-5 years.

[tuck243Participant]

Greg Oden did this stupid ish (gained a ton of muscle after an injury) and he was never able to recover from it…    

[Robb_CParticipant]

Why is Jabari adding weight on when he just tore an ACL.. Ask LeBron how much it wore him out playing PF for Miami.. Jabari should of dropped ten pounds to ease the strain on his knee..

[kobyzParticipant]

 They should start Freek at center and add a good 3&d player at Sf, and play ultra dynamic small ball but with great lengh, Kidd loves those unconventional ways…

[T Rex]

 The more I think about, the more I think you’re right.

Giannis at center is the solution to the Bucks spacing problem.

Giannis is getting so strong, it’s almost a natural fit anyway.

 

 

[T Rex]

 The more I think about, the more I think you’re right.

Giannis at center is the solution to the Bucks spacing problem.

Giannis is getting so strong, it’s almost a natural fit anyway.

 

 

[kobyzParticipant]

 They should start Freek at center and add a good 3&d player at Sf, and play ultra dynamic small ball but with great lengh, Kidd loves those unconventional ways…

[HitsterParticipant]

Jabari can play PF on offence but they can use Giannis with his length to guard the PF on defence. They also have John Henson on the roster so Jason Kidd can switch his match ups around quite a lot.

The Bucks will need to work out shot selection quite carefully as a starting 5 of MCW-Middleton-Giannis-Parker-Monroe all have legit claims for getting a decent amount of the ball and shots. Jason Kidd may well mix and match this rotation as the game progresses or may even use one of these guys as an impact 6th man who plays 30 plus mpg.

Jabari only played 20 odd games last season so to judge his impact and NBA potential on that is laughable. The guy may well be carrying some extra weight given he is coming back from an injury even if he did some gym work to keep himself ticking over.

I don’t get the fuss about him being 255-265lbs, he’s 6ft 8 ins tall so he’d naturally be in that weight range and once he starts pre-season the Bucks trainers can soon access his ideal playing weight, body fat percentage. But I’d expect he’d be monitored when he was rehabbing as well.

[T Rex]

 When they say Jabari is exclusively a PF now, I don’t think they’re talking about offense.

 

 

[T Rex]

 When they say Jabari is exclusively a PF now, I don’t think they’re talking about offense.

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

Jabari can play PF on offence but they can use Giannis with his length to guard the PF on defence. They also have John Henson on the roster so Jason Kidd can switch his match ups around quite a lot.

The Bucks will need to work out shot selection quite carefully as a starting 5 of MCW-Middleton-Giannis-Parker-Monroe all have legit claims for getting a decent amount of the ball and shots. Jason Kidd may well mix and match this rotation as the game progresses or may even use one of these guys as an impact 6th man who plays 30 plus mpg.

Jabari only played 20 odd games last season so to judge his impact and NBA potential on that is laughable. The guy may well be carrying some extra weight given he is coming back from an injury even if he did some gym work to keep himself ticking over.

I don’t get the fuss about him being 255-265lbs, he’s 6ft 8 ins tall so he’d naturally be in that weight range and once he starts pre-season the Bucks trainers can soon access his ideal playing weight, body fat percentage. But I’d expect he’d be monitored when he was rehabbing as well.

[T Rex]

 Bringing Jabari or Giannis off the bench might make the most sense.

Middleton starts at 3, and either O.J. or Rashad Vaughn starts at SG.

And it might make more sense to bring Jabari off the bench, where he can play next to Henson.

 

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Bringing Jabari or Giannis off the bench might make the most sense.

Middleton starts at 3, and either O.J. or Rashad Vaughn starts at SG.

And it might make more sense to bring Jabari off the bench, where he can play next to Henson.

 

 

 

 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 F*ck is wrong with this dude?  You need not ever write another post on this site.

[T Rex]

 I bet 24 hours ago you were saying Jabari was obviously a solid defender at SF, and the Bucks were an obviously well-enough-balanced team to be a near lock for the playoffs.

Then what happened?

 

 

[T Rex]

 I bet 24 hours ago you were saying Jabari was obviously a solid defender at SF, and the Bucks were an obviously well-enough-balanced team to be a near lock for the playoffs.

Then what happened?

 

 

[GrandmamaParticipant]

 F*ck is wrong with this dude?  You need not ever write another post on this site.

[kobyzParticipant]

 Is it true that Giannis is the exactly same player as Evan Turner only in a 6’11" body with 7’5" wingspan???

[T Rex]

 Is it true that the Lakers president of basketball operations is about to get fired by his sister, after passing on Okafor, Porzingis, and Myles Turner?

 

 

 

[T Rex]

 Is it true that the Lakers president of basketball operations is about to get fired by his sister, after passing on Okafor, Porzingis, and Myles Turner?

 

 

 

[kobyzParticipant]

 Is it true that Giannis is the exactly same player as Evan Turner only in a 6’11" body with 7’5" wingspan???

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