[sammybuckeye13Participant]

And he’s only made one All-NBA team (2nd – 2007) in his 7-year career? I think his potential impact has to be considered a little more carefully.

[Stojakovicfor3Participant]

Bosh is one of the best if not the best power forward in the league. He has an all around game and is worthy of a max contract. And look at the power forwards he has to compete against for All NBA (Dirk Nowitzki, Tim Duncan, Amare Stoudemire, Kevin Garnett)

[ItsVictorOladipoParticipant]

Bosh is only 26, has already made 5 all star games and is a big man whose game is built on finesse and skill (a recipe for success later on in his career). Part of the reason he rarely makes all-NBA teams is because his team has never been that good. He deserved to be an All-NBA second or third teamer this year with 24 PPG on 51.8 FG% and 79.7 FT% to go along with 10.8 RPG but because his team blew he was left out.

[RickyRubio9Participant]

Yeah Dude
The League is stacked with PF’s
Duncan, Dirk, West, Randolph <—- That's just the Southwest Division
Gasol, Garnett, Amare, Aldridge, Jamison, Boozer, Lee, & so forth

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

If Bosh played anywhere but Toronto he’d be an All NBA teamer. And honestly, who puts stock into that anyways…its a popularity contest anyways.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

So according to you, you wouldn’t want Carmelo Anthony? He’s only a 1 time All-NBA 2nd Teamer.

Checkmate.

[McWinningParticipant]

You wouldnt want John Bryant? i guess he made all nba fat first team last year, but still only one time.

You forget hes competing against people like Eddy Curry. ill definitely take him.

[Tongue-Out-Like-23Participant]

I’m not sure man, Sean May can take it. Quentin Richardson looked like he wanted it when he was in New York.

[sacphil_08Participant]

Chris bosh is a stat padder. He always has been. He’s not a guy that is going to lead your franchise to prominence by himself. Last year he averaged 24 pts and 11 reb. Crazy numbers right? But his team still missed the playoffs in the Eastern Conference where the low end is really really low. That tells me he scores and rebounds yes, but he only averaged 2.4 assists per game and for someone with his skill level he should have way more assists than that. He has tunnel vision, and i bet those assists came from double teams and kick outs for open looks. If you were to pair him with lebron or d wade he’ll be great kind of the same way pau gasol was in memphis and he got great stats but didnt have a real effect til he went to LA with kobe. If bosh goes to a team where he is the number one scoring option and there are no other reliable scoring options the team will improve by a little bit, but not enough to push a team to the playoffs (if its a team that didnt make the playoffs last season)

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

sacphil…that post made no sense on so many levels.

Name 5 guys who are going to lead a franchise to “prominence” by themselves. You cant. There are ZERO! Zero i tell you. Dont be nieve and think that Kobe can do it, he didnt. Dont think Lebron can do it…he hasnt. Dont think Wade did it, he didnt.

The assists average is another poor point…who the hell is he going to pass the ball to? Hedo would be good, but he had one of his worst seasons as a pro. Derozan cant shoot, Calderon isnt a shooter either.

Good job pointing out the obvious that most of his assists came from kickouts and double teams…thats how post players get assists…how else is Chris Bosh going to get assists? Watch Basketball man…thats how it works.

I think you are hating on a post player, because he is not playing the glory position of the NBA which is a perimeter guy…Bosh does dirty work inside and its not all that “sexy”

Bosh is the best PF in the NBA. He can be the number 1 guy on a team, but like every other star, he needs guys around him. Chicago would be the perfect fit for him if not Miami.

[sacphil_08Participant]

Wow biggy smalls you want to point out my infidelities yet you just called bosh the best power forward in the league. He pads his stats. There’s no way you have a big guy that averages those numbers and your team isn’t a good team unless he pads stats. Look at al Jefferson. He averaged 20 and 10 and the twolves only won 14 games. Toronto has a very efficient shooter in calderon, a decent shooter in Antoine wright Jarrett Jack is a plausible shooter, hedo turkoglu is a good shooter, Andrea bargnani is a great shooter. I brought up the assists because since he is so skilled he should be getting more assists. He is the same guy as Amare except Amare attacks the rim and occasionally shoots whereas bosh shoots and occasionally attacks the rim. The raptors had enough pieces to at least get into the playoffs but chris bosh isn’t a team leader or as fierce a competitor as he should be and needs to be in order ro be the best power forward in the league. If you wanted to look in terms of talent then we could argue that Lamar odom is the best small forward in the league but he’s lazy and not competitive and therefore he’s just a role player. The best players in the league are not only talented but they are fierce competitors and they accomplish things. Also
I brought up the assist thing to point out that he only gets assists when HES FORCED TO because of double teams. And no I’m not into guards like you think. Don’t assume things because well… You know how it goes. Big men win championships along with guards. And when I say he can’t win by himself in saying he can’t be your number one option. He’ll have to play with a dwayne Wade or lebron (that might not even get him over the hump) in order to get where he wants. That’s what I’m saying he isn’t who everyone makes him out to be. Like gasol he is a robin to a batman and needs to be the number 2 to be on a championship team

[OhCanada-Participant]

Bosh maybe the most unselfish player in the league. when he plays selfish he averages 30 and 10. His court vision s amazing and Im watching a show (Raptors game in an Hour).They play each game in one hour. Ive seen Bosh pass the ball from the high post to Derozan cutting towards the basket many times.Or instead of recieving the ball he will run a screen for Bargnani.He is actaully too unselfish and that has been his problem.We wanted him to be more selfish and more ball dominant especially in the clutch. He passes up open shots.

Also how is he a stat padder when he averages only 16 Shots Per Game at 52% and 24ppg?Lebron shoots 20 Shots Per Game at 50% and 30ppg, Wade shoots 20 Shots Per Game at 47% and 27ppg…and the best player Kobe Bryant shot 21.5 Shots Per Game at 45% and 27 ppg.

Lets just call every NBA superstar a “stat padder” if we call Bosh one…

[BiggysmallsParticipant]

Sacphil…good point with Big Al…as a Twolf fan (sadly) I know the definition of a black hole. Jefferson is a 20 and 10 guy, but he really doesnt compare to Bosh. Al isnt a guy you can build around. He cant guard 4 men, but isnt big enough to defend Centers. Offensively he can score, but doesnt pass at all.

Bosh on the other hand, I think can be a guy you can build around. His offensive game is diverse where he can work the elbows, as well as score in the low post. His midrange game is solid. Defensivly, he’s not going to win any All NBA defensive team awards, but he can defend 4s and 5s. I really do think Bosh, in a situation such as Chicago where he would have a legit wing man in Derrick Rose and a strong cast including Luol Deng and company, Bosh would flourish and that team would be a top 3 team in the East.

The Raptors were close to the playoffs this year, and were very much in the hunt until late when injuries seemlessly took a toll, along with that they dealt with a monster disapointmen which was Hedo Turkoglu.

Dont bring Amare into this…he attacks the rim because Steve Nash’s passes lead him to the rim, and because his offensive game is dunking and free throw shooting. It works for him, so I wont go further into that, but I think most good NBA minds would say they’d take Bosh over Amare any day. Have the 2 trade spots and who knows what that wouldve been like.

I apologize for assuming you are in love with perimeter guys…thats just alot of bitterness held inside me for so long about everybody’s opinion that a big man cant be the alpha dog…I think Bosh can be that guy.

Would he be better with a guy like D Wade or Lebron? of course he would, most players would…but that street goes both ways.

Good post, but I think we’ll just have to agree to disagree on a few points.

[sc0rebuckets11Participant]

Like ive said before, in another thread.. Gasol is the best PF in the league right now.

Bosh is not fuckin with him, but Bosh is nice.. very diverse game.

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