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  • #23079
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    OldSkoolBasketball
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    I’m not sure whats going on with him and the coach but apparently he is unhappy? Rockets are trying to acquire him and Blazers might try too.

    http://realgm.com/src_wiretap_archives/70043/20101111/rockets_explore_trade_for_love/

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  • #432734
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Let’s hope he doesn’t end up in Portland. He’ll suffer a knee injury.

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  • #432742
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    IndianaBasketball
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    Let’s hope he doesn’t end up in Portland. He’ll suffer a knee injury.

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  • #432738
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    Looking at Kevin Love’s stats this year, he has played nine games and is averaging 16.6 ppg and 12rpg and he is only playing 28mpg and for his career in Minnesota he has been averaging 26mpg. (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kevin_love/index.html < here is the source) I think his issue is that he wants to play more and since he is putting up those kind of numbers I think he should be playing more. It is definitely the logjam they have at the forward position. I think other players should be moved instead of Love because he is playing well and is very consistent.

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  • #432745
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    torontoraptors10
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    Looking at Kevin Love’s stats this year, he has played nine games and is averaging 16.6 ppg and 12rpg and he is only playing 28mpg and for his career in Minnesota he has been averaging 26mpg. (http://www.nba.com/playerfile/kevin_love/index.html < here is the source) I think his issue is that he wants to play more and since he is putting up those kind of numbers I think he should be playing more. It is definitely the logjam they have at the forward position. I think other players should be moved instead of Love because he is playing well and is very consistent.

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  • #432743
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    nbaretro
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    It boggles my mind that the best rebounder in the NBA is on the block.

    I think the Pistons really need to jump in there and go get him.

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  • #432751
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    nbaretro
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    It boggles my mind that the best rebounder in the NBA is on the block.

    I think the Pistons really need to jump in there and go get him.

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  • #432746
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    @nbaretro

    He is not on the block, he just wants out due to lack of playing time.  The entire timberwolves franchise is messed up right now.  Its as if the owners are intentionally losing so they can move to another city or something.

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  • #432753
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    @nbaretro

    He is not on the block, he just wants out due to lack of playing time.  The entire timberwolves franchise is messed up right now.  Its as if the owners are intentionally losing so they can move to another city or something.

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  • #432748
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    Mr. Chicago
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    "It boggles my mind that the best rebounder in the NBA is on the block."

    Doubt i would call him the best rebounder in the NBA.

    I think Howard & Noah are definitely a notch ahead.

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  • #432755
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    "It boggles my mind that the best rebounder in the NBA is on the block."

    Doubt i would call him the best rebounder in the NBA.

    I think Howard & Noah are definitely a notch ahead.

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  • #432750
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    Love doesn’t defend well, but they’d be crazy to trade him.

    I don’t think he’s a player you build around or make the face of your franchise, but he could be a very good player on a championship caliber team.

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  • #432757
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    Love doesn’t defend well, but they’d be crazy to trade him.

    I don’t think he’s a player you build around or make the face of your franchise, but he could be a very good player on a championship caliber team.

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  • #432760
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    TC_42
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    Thunder, anyone?

    He would be the perfect fit.  Great rebounder, great offensive game for a big man.  He lacks defense, but I think he would be ok playing with Ibaka and a more developed Aldrich.

    Thunder should trade anyone but Westbrook and Durant and maybe Ibaka to get him.

    If they let Portland snatch up Camby last year and Love this year, I’ll be really concerned about how conservative they are.  They rescinded that Tyson Chandler trade the year before too… for Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox. Ridiculous!

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  • #432767
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    TC_42
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    Thunder, anyone?

    He would be the perfect fit.  Great rebounder, great offensive game for a big man.  He lacks defense, but I think he would be ok playing with Ibaka and a more developed Aldrich.

    Thunder should trade anyone but Westbrook and Durant and maybe Ibaka to get him.

    If they let Portland snatch up Camby last year and Love this year, I’ll be really concerned about how conservative they are.  They rescinded that Tyson Chandler trade the year before too… for Joe Smith and Chris Wilcox. Ridiculous!

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  • #432778
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m not as high on Love as a lot of people, but Kahn should be fired if he gives up two double double power forwards in less than one year. You just don’t do that…

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  • #432785
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’m not as high on Love as a lot of people, but Kahn should be fired if he gives up two double double power forwards in less than one year. You just don’t do that…

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  • #432784
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    Bwhawhahha. Should someone point out to Daryl Morey that the way to improve upon his awful defensive team is not to go grab one of the worst defensive players on the Timberwolves?

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  • #432791
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    Bwhawhahha. Should someone point out to Daryl Morey that the way to improve upon his awful defensive team is not to go grab one of the worst defensive players on the Timberwolves?

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  • #432776
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    I definitely believe he is gone, he gets like 26mpg under Rambis which is unbelievable. He should be their building block, the future of Minni not Beasley. Anytime yiou have someone who averages 17-ppg and 12-rpg in 26-mpg you look past their below average interior defense skills and athletisism.

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  • #432783
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    OhCanada-
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    I definitely believe he is gone, he gets like 26mpg under Rambis which is unbelievable. He should be their building block, the future of Minni not Beasley. Anytime yiou have someone who averages 17-ppg and 12-rpg in 26-mpg you look past their below average interior defense skills and athletisism.

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  • #432786
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    OhCanada-
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    LOL BTPH this is true, they already have Scola who is quite the rebounder, and a variety of talented prospects in the frontcourt. K-Mart really ruined the dynamics of that team with his weak defensive play.

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  • #432793
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    OhCanada-
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    LOL BTPH this is true, they already have Scola who is quite the rebounder, and a variety of talented prospects in the frontcourt. K-Mart really ruined the dynamics of that team with his weak defensive play.

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  • #432790
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    Raps should offer Bargnani that would be sweet. Lol anyone is a contender in the Love sweepstakes! When Kahns trading anythings possible, and if he thought Milicic was a good prospect wait until he gets a load of Bargnani!

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  • #432797
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    OhCanada-
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    Raps should offer Bargnani that would be sweet. Lol anyone is a contender in the Love sweepstakes! When Kahns trading anythings possible, and if he thought Milicic was a good prospect wait until he gets a load of Bargnani!

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  • #432842
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    nbaretro
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    I agree, Dryal Morey is a little too stat driven.

     

    I never forget hearing this man say " We vision Kevin Martin as our Reggie Miller, the numbers are very similar"

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  • #432849
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    I agree, Dryal Morey is a little too stat driven.

     

    I never forget hearing this man say " We vision Kevin Martin as our Reggie Miller, the numbers are very similar"

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  • #432846
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    McWinning
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    Id love, to get Love in Portland but he wouldnt get crazy minutes with Nate being a defensive coach hed probably start Camby over him.

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  • #432853
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    McWinning
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    Id love, to get Love in Portland but he wouldnt get crazy minutes with Nate being a defensive coach hed probably start Camby over him.

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  • #432852
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Sike…I’d love Kevin Love in the city of brotherly love

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  • #432859
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Sike…I’d love Kevin Love in the city of brotherly love

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  • #432854
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    jdstorm
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     i don’t know how it will happen, but this just seems like a classic lakers theft waiting to happen. 

    If LA offered Bynum their 2 rookies and 2 first round picks for Love,  Darko ( just to have an extra 7ft guy) and a wing they have given up on like brewer or possibly webster. Kahn Probably Says yes. 

    the team that should really make this happen is memphis, trade randolph and his expiring contract to mini for Love, a filler piece or 2 and a massive trade exception.

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  • #432861
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     i don’t know how it will happen, but this just seems like a classic lakers theft waiting to happen. 

    If LA offered Bynum their 2 rookies and 2 first round picks for Love,  Darko ( just to have an extra 7ft guy) and a wing they have given up on like brewer or possibly webster. Kahn Probably Says yes. 

    the team that should really make this happen is memphis, trade randolph and his expiring contract to mini for Love, a filler piece or 2 and a massive trade exception.

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  • #432868
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    As a fan of big men that still rebound and play with skill and fineese…I don’t know if Kaun is that Dumb though…If it became a 3 way trade where the Pistons send Monroe and Prince to Minny for Zac, and Love ends up back in Memphis

    Grizzlies-Conley-Mayo-Gay-Love-Gasol-Vasquez-Henry-Young-Arthur-Thabeet-They still remain a playoff contender and add Love + save money to resign Mayo-Gasol and Love (although It could backfire and they resign none) worst case lineup if they lost all 3…Conley-Henry-Gay-Arthur-Thabeet-Vasquez-Young + draft picks and Free Agents to fill roster

    Wolves-Flynn-Johnson-Prince (expiring contract that can teach some young guys for a few months)-Beasley-Monroe-Darko-Webster-Luke-Ellington-Pekovic-Tolliver + draft picks and Free agents

    Pistons-Stuckey-Rip-TMac-Zac-Wallace-Gordon-Daye-Villanueva-Bynum-Summers-Wilcox-Jerebko

    they can resign Zac who they have coveted for a while and draft BPA with a top 5 pick in 2011…Barnes,Jones,Irving and Kanter are probally high on their early season big board…Fab Melo is a sure fire Piston pick if they have Zac in line…They’ll need a defender and a young Sf (if TMac’s not looking good) Wilson Chandler would be great there…they need a lot of talent…

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  • #432875
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    As a fan of big men that still rebound and play with skill and fineese…I don’t know if Kaun is that Dumb though…If it became a 3 way trade where the Pistons send Monroe and Prince to Minny for Zac, and Love ends up back in Memphis

    Grizzlies-Conley-Mayo-Gay-Love-Gasol-Vasquez-Henry-Young-Arthur-Thabeet-They still remain a playoff contender and add Love + save money to resign Mayo-Gasol and Love (although It could backfire and they resign none) worst case lineup if they lost all 3…Conley-Henry-Gay-Arthur-Thabeet-Vasquez-Young + draft picks and Free Agents to fill roster

    Wolves-Flynn-Johnson-Prince (expiring contract that can teach some young guys for a few months)-Beasley-Monroe-Darko-Webster-Luke-Ellington-Pekovic-Tolliver + draft picks and Free agents

    Pistons-Stuckey-Rip-TMac-Zac-Wallace-Gordon-Daye-Villanueva-Bynum-Summers-Wilcox-Jerebko

    they can resign Zac who they have coveted for a while and draft BPA with a top 5 pick in 2011…Barnes,Jones,Irving and Kanter are probally high on their early season big board…Fab Melo is a sure fire Piston pick if they have Zac in line…They’ll need a defender and a young Sf (if TMac’s not looking good) Wilson Chandler would be great there…they need a lot of talent…

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  • #432874
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    iceman21
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     Thunder should get Love for Harden and  1st round pick…

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    I know it is 1 sided but I would love it for the Thunder

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  • #432881
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     Thunder should get Love for Harden and  1st round pick…

    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine

    I know it is 1 sided but I would love it for the Thunder

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  • #432876
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    "Id love, to get Love in Portland but he wouldnt get crazy minutes with Nate being a defensive coach hed probably start Camby over him."

    That is because Nate McMillan is a good coach.

    "i don’t know how it will happen, but this just seems like a classic lakers theft waiting to happen.

    If LA offered Bynum their 2 rookies and 2 first round picks for Love, Darko ( just to have an extra 7ft guy) and a wing they have given up on like brewer or possibly webster. Kahn Probably Says yes."

    Huh? You do realize Andrew Bynum is a far better player than Kevin Love, right? Also, Kurt Rambis worked as an assistant coach under Phil Jackson. Why would anyone think Phil Jackson would react any differently to Love’s lack of effort defensively? Though I will say this, Kobe has that delicate touch with guys who don’t go hard all the time so I’d be all for seeing how he reacts.

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  • #432883
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    "Id love, to get Love in Portland but he wouldnt get crazy minutes with Nate being a defensive coach hed probably start Camby over him."

    That is because Nate McMillan is a good coach.

    "i don’t know how it will happen, but this just seems like a classic lakers theft waiting to happen.

    If LA offered Bynum their 2 rookies and 2 first round picks for Love, Darko ( just to have an extra 7ft guy) and a wing they have given up on like brewer or possibly webster. Kahn Probably Says yes."

    Huh? You do realize Andrew Bynum is a far better player than Kevin Love, right? Also, Kurt Rambis worked as an assistant coach under Phil Jackson. Why would anyone think Phil Jackson would react any differently to Love’s lack of effort defensively? Though I will say this, Kobe has that delicate touch with guys who don’t go hard all the time so I’d be all for seeing how he reacts.

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  • #432882
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Harden and Green for Love and Ellington…Then the Wolves move Beasley back to power forward and Green to small forward…Harden would their Sg and get great minutes…Rubio needs to get traded IMO, he wouldn’t fit with that type of team and likely won’t be coming to a bad Wolves team…

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  • #432889
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Harden and Green for Love and Ellington…Then the Wolves move Beasley back to power forward and Green to small forward…Harden would their Sg and get great minutes…Rubio needs to get traded IMO, he wouldn’t fit with that type of team and likely won’t be coming to a bad Wolves team…

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  • #432886
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Be a sport

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  • #432893
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    The Scare Crow Returns
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    Be a sport

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  • #432905
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    I don’t think Detroit would deal young for old. Even if Randolph wants to go to Detroit (he denied it yesterday, though that might mean nothing), Detroit would have to want him. The problem I see with the Pistons now is that the ball doesn’t move. Too many guys are only looking for their own shot Randolph only makes that worse. Minnesota would probably find Tayshaun Prince wanting to sit out for a month with a hangnail if he was traded there. I can’t imagine him wanting to spend any time there. I could see Memphis going for it. It would save them money, and it would be easier to get Arthur time if he shares the spot with Love than with Randolph. Whatever anyone says about Z-Bo, he is no bit player: 35 minutes, 20 points, 10 rebounds, and 50 losses (semi-kidding).

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  • #432910
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    I don’t think Detroit would deal young for old. Even if Randolph wants to go to Detroit (he denied it yesterday, though that might mean nothing), Detroit would have to want him. The problem I see with the Pistons now is that the ball doesn’t move. Too many guys are only looking for their own shot Randolph only makes that worse. Minnesota would probably find Tayshaun Prince wanting to sit out for a month with a hangnail if he was traded there. I can’t imagine him wanting to spend any time there. I could see Memphis going for it. It would save them money, and it would be easier to get Arthur time if he shares the spot with Love than with Randolph. Whatever anyone says about Z-Bo, he is no bit player: 35 minutes, 20 points, 10 rebounds, and 50 losses (semi-kidding).

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  • #432915
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    I figure Detroit and Minnesota would be the lead dogs in that race to sign a Bad Team player/great stat guy…there’s always the Knicks though…maybe Villanuava and Tmac go Minny instead of Prince…

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  • #432920
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    I figure Detroit and Minnesota would be the lead dogs in that race to sign a Bad Team player/great stat guy…there’s always the Knicks though…maybe Villanuava and Tmac go Minny instead of Prince…

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  • #432927
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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2d7xacy

    What about this deal?

    Atlanta- Gets 3 very good players back

    New Orleans- Adds depth and pushes all the chips to the front of the table

    Detroit- 24 million in cap space so they can begin the rebuild

    Minnesota- Gets Josh Smith who can be the "superstar" guy in place of K-Love

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  • #432932
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    nbaretro
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    http://games.espn.go.com/nba/tradeMachine?tradeId=2d7xacy

    What about this deal?

    Atlanta- Gets 3 very good players back

    New Orleans- Adds depth and pushes all the chips to the front of the table

    Detroit- 24 million in cap space so they can begin the rebuild

    Minnesota- Gets Josh Smith who can be the "superstar" guy in place of K-Love

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  • #432935
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    jdstorm
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    i don’t know about detroit as the third team, but the memphis minnesota parts seem to work. some other teams that might want to be the third wheel of this deal include

    milwaukee, imagine if they had a post scorer. they have Redds expiring that they could flip. 

    chicago might look at flipping boozer for zac if they can work out an extension, and pick up a starting SG.

     

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  • #432940
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    i don’t know about detroit as the third team, but the memphis minnesota parts seem to work. some other teams that might want to be the third wheel of this deal include

    milwaukee, imagine if they had a post scorer. they have Redds expiring that they could flip. 

    chicago might look at flipping boozer for zac if they can work out an extension, and pick up a starting SG.

     

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  • #432949
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    What about Love for Hill and Martin?? That gives the Rockets:

    PG: Brooks

    SG: Lee

    SF: Battier

    PF: Love

    C: Scola

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    And the Wolves: 

    PG: Flynn

    SG: Martin

    SF: Johnson

    PF: Beasley

    C: Darko

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  • #432954
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    The8thDeadlySin
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    What about Love for Hill and Martin?? That gives the Rockets:

    PG: Brooks

    SG: Lee

    SF: Battier

    PF: Love

    C: Scola

    __________________________________________________________________________

     

    And the Wolves: 

    PG: Flynn

    SG: Martin

    SF: Johnson

    PF: Beasley

    C: Darko

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  • #433042
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    apb540
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    Get him please mr Ed Stefanski 

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  • #433045
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    apb540
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    Get him please mr Ed Stefanski 

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  • #433054
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    M-DYMES
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    I dont understand my t-wolves at times.  They want to implent the triangle offense and is K-Love not the ultimate PF for that offense?  He boards very well, has a great J even from outside, and he is probably the best passing big man in the game right now.  I’d imagine that would be a player you would want to build around if you would truly intend on going down that road.  Rambis just hates that he isn’t an agressive animal on D.  Either Rambis/Kahn needs to keep him and build around him in that type of offense (adding Rubio would be a great combo for the triangle) or they need to move onto new aspirations with that offense.  Flynn isn’t a triangle offense PG, he is built for run n gun or pick n roll. 

    They need to understand what type of players can get the triangle offense running succesfully.  Looking back they had their chances to build a phenomenal team to run the triangle but as usual my T-wolves tend to love fuckin up.

    PG: Rubio

    SG: Curry

    SF:  Beasley

    PF:  Love

    C:  Cousins

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  • #433057
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    M-DYMES
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    I dont understand my t-wolves at times.  They want to implent the triangle offense and is K-Love not the ultimate PF for that offense?  He boards very well, has a great J even from outside, and he is probably the best passing big man in the game right now.  I’d imagine that would be a player you would want to build around if you would truly intend on going down that road.  Rambis just hates that he isn’t an agressive animal on D.  Either Rambis/Kahn needs to keep him and build around him in that type of offense (adding Rubio would be a great combo for the triangle) or they need to move onto new aspirations with that offense.  Flynn isn’t a triangle offense PG, he is built for run n gun or pick n roll. 

    They need to understand what type of players can get the triangle offense running succesfully.  Looking back they had their chances to build a phenomenal team to run the triangle but as usual my T-wolves tend to love fuckin up.

    PG: Rubio

    SG: Curry

    SF:  Beasley

    PF:  Love

    C:  Cousins

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  • #433235
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    TC_42
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    That team would be hella fun to watch, but they’d give up 200 points a night.

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  • #433238
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    TC_42
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    That team would be hella fun to watch, but they’d give up 200 points a night.

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  • #433245
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    joecheck88
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    kevin love is not a championship power forward. he isnt good enough to guard pau gasol, kevin garnett, chris bosh, dirk, etc. im not high on him at all. he of course is a starter on many teams but i cant imagine him on a team trying to win a championship. honestly, i wouldnt want him on my team. he gets good numbers but he just isnt really a great pf. i think he would be better in a taj gibson role of the bench.

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  • #433248
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    joecheck88
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    kevin love is not a championship power forward. he isnt good enough to guard pau gasol, kevin garnett, chris bosh, dirk, etc. im not high on him at all. he of course is a starter on many teams but i cant imagine him on a team trying to win a championship. honestly, i wouldnt want him on my team. he gets good numbers but he just isnt really a great pf. i think he would be better in a taj gibson role of the bench.

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