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  • #21324
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Watching Knight during a few of Kentucky’s games this summer..
    I see a little of Brandon Jennings game in Knight’s game…

    They both have Excellent Speed
    Quick 1st Steps
    Good Shooting Skills.
    Solid Athletes
    Fierceless Competitors
    Good Passers
    3 Point Range

    The only difference i see is Jennings is left handed and Knight depends alot on his right hand..But thats something i’m sure he will work on..
    Just like he seem to have added a few pounds of muscle to his body….

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  • #394562
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    JNixon
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    Brandon Jennings is a bit more quick, flashy, a bit less strong (which hurts his efficiency more than it will Knight’s), and a bit worse as a defender.

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  • #394585
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    JNixon
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    Brandon Jennings is a bit more quick, flashy, a bit less strong (which hurts his efficiency more than it will Knight’s), and a bit worse as a defender.

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  • #394568
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Jennings said on his Twitter page..That he has added 10lbs of Muscles during the summer….

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  • #394591
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Jennings said on his Twitter page..That he has added 10lbs of Muscles during the summer….

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  • #394570
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    JNixon
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    That would make him about 170-175 lbs, he’s still not as strong or physically gifted as Knight

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  • #394593
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    JNixon
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    That would make him about 170-175 lbs, he’s still not as strong or physically gifted as Knight

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  • #394573
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    RUDEBOY_
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    So your saying Knight will be a better player than Jennings??

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  • #394597
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    RUDEBOY_
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    So your saying Knight will be a better player than Jennings??

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  • #394576
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    JNixon
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    Lol, I’m saying Jennings isn’t as strong or as physically gifted as Knight.

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  • #394599
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    JNixon
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    Lol, I’m saying Jennings isn’t as strong or as physically gifted as Knight.

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  • #394582
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    stanford hoops

    Yea Jennings isn’t as big. But is a better athlete. Knight is a better defender and shooter. There are better comparisons out there. He kinda reminds me of dwill when he was a freshman

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  • #394604
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    stanford hoops

    Yea Jennings isn’t as big. But is a better athlete. Knight is a better defender and shooter. There are better comparisons out there. He kinda reminds me of dwill when he was a freshman

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  • #394584
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    Im Your Father
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    You think Knight is more gifted physically? He’s definitely bigger and stronger, but Jennings is much quicker and has more hops.

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  • #394606
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    Im Your Father
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    You think Knight is more gifted physically? He’s definitely bigger and stronger, but Jennings is much quicker and has more hops.

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  • #394586
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    JNixon
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    “Jennings is much quicker and has more hops.”

    Which would make him more ATHLETICALLY gifted.

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  • #394608
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    JNixon
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    “Jennings is much quicker and has more hops.”

    Which would make him more ATHLETICALLY gifted.

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  • #394605
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    stanford hoops

    Oh I see what he’s saying. Quickness and hops fall under physically gifted as well iggy and you said knight is more physically gifted. I’m guessing you just ment the size/strenght aspect

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  • #394626
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    stanford hoops

    Oh I see what he’s saying. Quickness and hops fall under physically gifted as well iggy and you said knight is more physically gifted. I’m guessing you just ment the size/strenght aspect

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  • #394615
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    JNixon
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    Physically gifted has to do with size. Athletically gifted as to do with athleticism. They are not the same things…

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    • #394688
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      hiphopismylife
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      I’ve always heard physically gifted used to athleticism more than strength because in most cases athleticism is in fact a natral gift whereas strength is moreso the by product of hard work than an actual gift. Id definitely give Jennings the nod in that department because of his athleticism as well as his natural lead guard skills that Knight is still developing. To answer Rudeboy’s questin I would cpare Knight to Chauncey Billups. Big, strong, high character, and a very good work ethic. He might not be the type to make a huge immediate splash as a true pg in the league but down the line his work ethic will make him a very solid pro. The same way that Chauncey struggled early on.

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    • #394706
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      hiphopismylife
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      I’ve always heard physically gifted used to athleticism more than strength because in most cases athleticism is in fact a natral gift whereas strength is moreso the by product of hard work than an actual gift. Id definitely give Jennings the nod in that department because of his athleticism as well as his natural lead guard skills that Knight is still developing. To answer Rudeboy’s questin I would cpare Knight to Chauncey Billups. Big, strong, high character, and a very good work ethic. He might not be the type to make a huge immediate splash as a true pg in the league but down the line his work ethic will make him a very solid pro. The same way that Chauncey struggled early on.

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  • #394636
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    JNixon
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    Physically gifted has to do with size. Athletically gifted as to do with athleticism. They are not the same things…

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  • #394621
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’ve always thought being physically and athletically gifted were two different things as well.

    You can have a physically gifted player, who isn’t really all that athletic. Or an athletically gifted player who isn’t physically gifted. For example… John Bender when he was a rookie with the Pacers. He could jump out of the gym, but was like 7′ 0″ 200 lbs lol.

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  • #394642
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    IndianaBasketball
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    I’ve always thought being physically and athletically gifted were two different things as well.

    You can have a physically gifted player, who isn’t really all that athletic. Or an athletically gifted player who isn’t physically gifted. For example… John Bender when he was a rookie with the Pacers. He could jump out of the gym, but was like 7′ 0″ 200 lbs lol.

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  • #394623
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    stanford hoops

    Jumping and quickness falls under physical ability as well. Trust me I know this one for a fact because we talk about it constantly in my medical assistant/xray tech classes when I was getting my degree

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  • #394643
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    stanford hoops

    Jumping and quickness falls under physical ability as well. Trust me I know this one for a fact because we talk about it constantly in my medical assistant/xray tech classes when I was getting my degree

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  • #394625
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    stanford hoops

    O used to think it as well untill proven other wise in class

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  • #394645
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    stanford hoops

    O used to think it as well untill proven other wise in class

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  • #394629
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    stanford hoops

    Athletics actually falls under physical. The two catagories is physical and mental if we go specifics

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  • #394649
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    stanford hoops

    Athletics actually falls under physical. The two catagories is physical and mental if we go specifics

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  • #394631
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    lalaila
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    who knows Knight’s last update on size..he really looks like 6’4 200+ now.

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  • #394651
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    lalaila
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    who knows Knight’s last update on size..he really looks like 6’4 200+ now.

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  • #394635
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    stanford hoops

    He prob is bigger. Since my nephew has been at Stanford for training he’s gone from 200-223

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  • #394655
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    stanford hoops

    He prob is bigger. Since my nephew has been at Stanford for training he’s gone from 200-223

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  • #394639
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    JNixon
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    Yeah good example Indianabasketball.

    Chauncey Billups is another guy. He’s not really very athletic, but he has outstanding physical ability.

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  • #394659
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    JNixon
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    Yeah good example Indianabasketball.

    Chauncey Billups is another guy. He’s not really very athletic, but he has outstanding physical ability.

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  • #394646
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    Lotto Stud
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    How can you even try to compare the 2….Young $ has a lot of flash & flare to his game, Knight just gets the job done.

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  • #394665
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    Lotto Stud
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    How can you even try to compare the 2….Young $ has a lot of flash & flare to his game, Knight just gets the job done.

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  • #394660
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    stanford hoops

    Trust me knight has flash. He may not show it much but he had it on display in Vegas a couple years back

    the other topic is like conversate. Alot people thinks that’s right but converse is actually right

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  • #394679
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    stanford hoops

    Trust me knight has flash. He may not show it much but he had it on display in Vegas a couple years back

    the other topic is like conversate. Alot people thinks that’s right but converse is actually right

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  • #394830
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    I agree with anyone who used the Chauncey Billups comparison. Billups struggled early but part of that was Rick Pitino fault. I dnt know if Knight will ever be an elite player in the league, but at worst he should be very solid. Still Brandon Jennings game is a mix between Iverson, Kenny Anderson, and Tiny Archibald. Knight is also imo the least impressive out of Calipari’s one and done guards.

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  • #394849
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    I agree with anyone who used the Chauncey Billups comparison. Billups struggled early but part of that was Rick Pitino fault. I dnt know if Knight will ever be an elite player in the league, but at worst he should be very solid. Still Brandon Jennings game is a mix between Iverson, Kenny Anderson, and Tiny Archibald. Knight is also imo the least impressive out of Calipari’s one and done guards.

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  • #394844
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    stanford hoops

    I tHink knight will be the most impressive because he’s the only one out of the group that has a jumper and a good defender and better basketball IQ

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    • #395065
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      gregoden08
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      You’d rather have Knight over Rose? Lol are you kidding me? He’s on his way to being a top-10 player. Evans averaged 20, 5, and 5 for christ sakes and had one of the best rookie years ever (statistically). Wall already showed how dominant he was in college and the upside he possesses. I have a hard time seeing Knight doing in college what Wall did.

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    • #395082
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      You’d rather have Knight over Rose? Lol are you kidding me? He’s on his way to being a top-10 player. Evans averaged 20, 5, and 5 for christ sakes and had one of the best rookie years ever (statistically). Wall already showed how dominant he was in college and the upside he possesses. I have a hard time seeing Knight doing in college what Wall did.

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  • #394863
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    stanford hoops

    I tHink knight will be the most impressive because he’s the only one out of the group that has a jumper and a good defender and better basketball IQ

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  • #395079
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    stanford hoops

    That makes no sense why would I
    pick him over Evans and rose now when both have proven there games in the NBA? What reason can’t knight be a better freshman then those two? He’s fast smarter then both as hs sr better shooter then both as hs sr. Better defender. So what reason is there to not assume he could have a better Freeman year. Doesn’t mean he will be a better NBA player just means he can be a better freshman

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  • #395096
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    stanford hoops

    That makes no sense why would I
    pick him over Evans and rose now when both have proven there games in the NBA? What reason can’t knight be a better freshman then those two? He’s fast smarter then both as hs sr better shooter then both as hs sr. Better defender. So what reason is there to not assume he could have a better Freeman year. Doesn’t mean he will be a better NBA player just means he can be a better freshman

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  • #395095
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    My bad. Yes, I can see him having similar success in college. I thought you meant you’d rather pick him over the other 3 in terms of being an NBA player.

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  • #395112
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    My bad. Yes, I can see him having similar success in college. I thought you meant you’d rather pick him over the other 3 in terms of being an NBA player.

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  • #395150
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    stanford hoops

    I’d have to see him
    play college ball first. Just like barely anyone would pick rose over cp3 before roses first college game. Or even think about trading kmart to get Evans before evens stepped on the court for Memphis

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  • #395165
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    stanford hoops

    I’d have to see him
    play college ball first. Just like barely anyone would pick rose over cp3 before roses first college game. Or even think about trading kmart to get Evans before evens stepped on the court for Memphis

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  • #395310
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    I’d acually pick him him over Evans, Rose , and Wall.
    Ive been watching him for a while now and he is dfferent. He wont wow you with athleticsism even though he is athletic if you dont think he is. His vision is on the same levels as Rose’s if not better, and he has a better jumpshot than they did at the same stage. His rebounding ablity is great for a guard also. You guys will all be on his bandwagon soon. Just wait for it.

    You dont see him doing as good as Wall?
    Imnpretty sure his pts, and shooting percentages will be higher.

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  • #395330
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    I’d acually pick him him over Evans, Rose , and Wall.
    Ive been watching him for a while now and he is dfferent. He wont wow you with athleticsism even though he is athletic if you dont think he is. His vision is on the same levels as Rose’s if not better, and he has a better jumpshot than they did at the same stage. His rebounding ablity is great for a guard also. You guys will all be on his bandwagon soon. Just wait for it.

    You dont see him doing as good as Wall?
    Imnpretty sure his pts, and shooting percentages will be higher.

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  • #395383
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    LeroyJenkins
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    You are so dumb wreckless

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  • #395404
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    LeroyJenkins
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    You are so dumb wreckless

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  • #395399
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    stanford hoops

    So he’s dumb because he thinks knight will be better then wall in college? It’s not like wall was the best Freeman ever.

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  • #395420
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    stanford hoops

    So he’s dumb because he thinks knight will be better then wall in college? It’s not like wall was the best Freeman ever.

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  • #395403
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    LeroyJenkins
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    My opinion of wreckless has nothing to do with john wall, brandon jennings, or kentucky. I just feel that as a person wreckless is dumb in general, and a jerk

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  • #395424
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    My opinion of wreckless has nothing to do with john wall, brandon jennings, or kentucky. I just feel that as a person wreckless is dumb in general, and a jerk

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  • #395409
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    stanford hoops

    Lol. Ok

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  • #395430
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    stanford hoops

    Lol. Ok

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  • #395435
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    hiphopismylife
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    Haha thats personal

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  • #395456
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    hiphopismylife
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    Haha thats personal

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  • #395522
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Leroy Jenkins-vs-Wreckless…

    Where’s Don King,Bob Arum or Jerry Springer when you need them?

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  • #395504
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    RUDEBOY_
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    Leroy Jenkins-vs-Wreckless…

    Where’s Don King,Bob Arum or Jerry Springer when you need them?

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  • #397223
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    sc0rebuckets11
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    i heard from people who’ve seen knight play in hs, complain about how he takes so many shots, and such. I was expecting him to go playmaker happy in the mcdonalds/jordan brand games, but he didn’t.

    that’s the difference. @ oak hill, jennings scored 30+ a game, but he was trying to break the assists records at these all-american games.

    he handed out 23assists in the elite24 game, as a rising sr.

    i just don’t see this natural, willing, playmaking ability in knight.

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  • #397238
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    i heard from people who’ve seen knight play in hs, complain about how he takes so many shots, and such. I was expecting him to go playmaker happy in the mcdonalds/jordan brand games, but he didn’t.

    that’s the difference. @ oak hill, jennings scored 30+ a game, but he was trying to break the assists records at these all-american games.

    he handed out 23assists in the elite24 game, as a rising sr.

    i just don’t see this natural, willing, playmaking ability in knight.

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  • #397231
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    midwestbbscout
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    Brandon Knight could’ve put up 30 a game for Oak Hill…..his HS team was not very good….put him on the floor with Austin Rivers in AAU and they were Jordan and Pippen…..

    but besides that point…..Knight could easily be better than anyone Calipari ever coached….especially because he has the winning attitude…..remember the one thing he DID do in the all-star games was drill the game winner at McDonalds…..its gonna be hard to win big without Kanter though….

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    • #397403
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      hiphopismylife
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      Whoa midwest you are really going out on a limb there. Easily better than three guys that could all be all stars? I do like Knight’s winning pedigree. He reminds me of OJ Mayo in the way that highlight reels don’s do him justice. He’s just a very good player. Not to mention the fact that he has been a top five player in the class since he was a freshman meang he developed well ahead of his classmates (like OJ) and after four years people are almost looking for negatives. I think how good a pro he will be will come down to howhigh his draft stock is and what kind of oppurtunity a team gives him, because given the minutes there is no doubt he can be productive in the NBA. No way he becaomes a total bust. That being said though, I don’t see any way he ends up being better than Rose, Reke, or Wall because they are simply much more dynamic. They are all a notch above him physically when it comes to Wall and Rose’s atheticism and Tyreke’s size and length. I think if Kentucky has a great year(which is in doubt atm) he will be in the top 10 and could fall somewhere between OJ Mayo and Chauncey Billups as an NBA player depending on what position he plays full time. I like him better as a 2 guard, but either way he is just a rock solid prospect and a good guy to have on your team.

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    • #397414
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      Whoa midwest you are really going out on a limb there. Easily better than three guys that could all be all stars? I do like Knight’s winning pedigree. He reminds me of OJ Mayo in the way that highlight reels don’s do him justice. He’s just a very good player. Not to mention the fact that he has been a top five player in the class since he was a freshman meang he developed well ahead of his classmates (like OJ) and after four years people are almost looking for negatives. I think how good a pro he will be will come down to howhigh his draft stock is and what kind of oppurtunity a team gives him, because given the minutes there is no doubt he can be productive in the NBA. No way he becaomes a total bust. That being said though, I don’t see any way he ends up being better than Rose, Reke, or Wall because they are simply much more dynamic. They are all a notch above him physically when it comes to Wall and Rose’s atheticism and Tyreke’s size and length. I think if Kentucky has a great year(which is in doubt atm) he will be in the top 10 and could fall somewhere between OJ Mayo and Chauncey Billups as an NBA player depending on what position he plays full time. I like him better as a 2 guard, but either way he is just a rock solid prospect and a good guy to have on your team.

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  • #397247
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    Brandon Knight could’ve put up 30 a game for Oak Hill…..his HS team was not very good….put him on the floor with Austin Rivers in AAU and they were Jordan and Pippen…..

    but besides that point…..Knight could easily be better than anyone Calipari ever coached….especially because he has the winning attitude…..remember the one thing he DID do in the all-star games was drill the game winner at McDonalds…..its gonna be hard to win big without Kanter though….

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  • #397407
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    hiphopismylife
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    Damn im tripping I didnt realize how long that was lol

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  • #397418
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    hiphopismylife
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    Damn im tripping I didnt realize how long that was lol

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  • #397519
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    midwestbbscout
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    I didn’t say he easily would be, I said he easily could be…..I am higher on Knight than I was any of those three except Rose coming out of HS…..and I admit I was even somewhat biased on Rose coming out of HS b/c he is from Chicago….Knight is the real fargin deal…..

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    • #397572
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      Dont worry I got what you said I just worded it wrong. I like his game too but I expect the other 3 guys to be franchise talents for years to come and I just dont see that NBA star in Knight’s game. I dont see any one thing he does that alot of other point guards cant do better. And I say hes best at the 2spot. Idc how bad a team hes on an elite playmaker wouldn’t average under 4 assists per game

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    • #397581
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      Dont worry I got what you said I just worded it wrong. I like his game too but I expect the other 3 guys to be franchise talents for years to come and I just dont see that NBA star in Knight’s game. I dont see any one thing he does that alot of other point guards cant do better. And I say hes best at the 2spot. Idc how bad a team hes on an elite playmaker wouldn’t average under 4 assists per game

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  • #397530
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    midwestbbscout
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    I didn’t say he easily would be, I said he easily could be…..I am higher on Knight than I was any of those three except Rose coming out of HS…..and I admit I was even somewhat biased on Rose coming out of HS b/c he is from Chicago….Knight is the real fargin deal…..

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  • #397638
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    stanford hoops

    It’s kinda hard to say he will be better then those guys because we have already seen what they can do in the NBA and college. Other then wall in the NBA. So we are all kinda biased towards thr other guys. But he does have the talent to put up better numbers then the other guys

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  • #397648
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    stanford hoops

    It’s kinda hard to say he will be better then those guys because we have already seen what they can do in the NBA and college. Other then wall in the NBA. So we are all kinda biased towards thr other guys. But he does have the talent to put up better numbers then the other guys

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  • #397742
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    TooNice4TV
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    I think that knight will be a better traditional PG in the NBA game than Jennings.

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  • #397751
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    TooNice4TV
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    I think that knight will be a better traditional PG in the NBA game than Jennings.

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  • #397766
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    Im Your Father
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    I think Jennings is much more of a pure point guard. Jennings has fantastic court vision.

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  • #397775
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    Im Your Father
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    I think Jennings is much more of a pure point guard. Jennings has fantastic court vision.

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  • #397778
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    stanford hoops

    Yea I agree Jennings is more of a pure pg. Knight can pass but he doesn’t have Jennings vision

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  • #397787
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    stanford hoops

    Yea I agree Jennings is more of a pure pg. Knight can pass but he doesn’t have Jennings vision

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  • #397888
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    hiphopismylife
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    I dont see Knight as a traditional pg. I think hes just a really skilled all around ballplayer who can pull it off right now. But his strength is his scoring ability

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  • #397897
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    I dont see Knight as a traditional pg. I think hes just a really skilled all around ballplayer who can pull it off right now. But his strength is his scoring ability

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  • #397892
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    hiphopismylife
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    The beauty of this is we are only a year or so away from finding out

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    hiphopismylife
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    The beauty of this is we are only a year or so away from finding out

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  • #397900
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    stanford hoops

    Yea. As far as strength being scoring that’s how alot of pg start out. Billups Gary Payton Kenny Anderson etc

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  • #397908
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    stanford hoops

    Yea. As far as strength being scoring that’s how alot of pg start out. Billups Gary Payton Kenny Anderson etc

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  • #398006
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    Wreckless
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    Alright leroy.
    What are you mad at me for? Please tell me. Because you keep fucking with me and Im not even saying shit to your little ass. Go to bed because im pretty sure its your bedtime right about now.

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  • #398016
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    Wreckless
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    Alright leroy.
    What are you mad at me for? Please tell me. Because you keep fucking with me and Im not even saying shit to your little ass. Go to bed because im pretty sure its your bedtime right about now.

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  • #398095
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    hiphopismylife
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    Gary Payton was actually the opposite. He became more of a scorer as he progressed. And i’ve compared Knight to Chauncey, but it took him 6-7 years to really excel in the league. He didn’t enjoy the immediate success that Rose, Evans, and Jennings have and Wall likely will. Btw I’m responding more to the whole idea of him being Cal’s best pg, not the Jennings comparison.

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  • #398106
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    hiphopismylife
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    Gary Payton was actually the opposite. He became more of a scorer as he progressed. And i’ve compared Knight to Chauncey, but it took him 6-7 years to really excel in the league. He didn’t enjoy the immediate success that Rose, Evans, and Jennings have and Wall likely will. Btw I’m responding more to the whole idea of him being Cal’s best pg, not the Jennings comparison.

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