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  • #56590
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    valentine

     1 to 5 BUSTS in recent years……All of these stiffs were picked in the first 5 picks

    Adam Morrison

    Tyrus Thomas

    Shelden Williams

    Michael Beasely

    Hasheem Thabeet

    Wes Johnson

    Derrick Williams

    Evan Turner

    Michael Kidd Chilchrist

    Thomas Robinson

    Otto Porter

    Cody Zeller

    Marvin Williams

    Devin Harris

    Darko Millic

    Nicholz Tshitivilli

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #923510
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    UC1000
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    Beasley at least had a season averaging almost 20 and is far better than anyone on the list

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  • #923637
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    UC1000
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    Beasley at least had a season averaging almost 20 and is far better than anyone on the list

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  • #923514
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    Chilbert arenas
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    What’s you’re point? It’s easier to believe that Embiid would be on this list. than not if he can’t stay healthy. Trent Dilfer always says your best ability is your availability. Also Devin Harris was an all-star in 2009 if you forgot and a few of those other guys are still young and shouldn’t be considered busts.

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    • #923518
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      eaAlwaysright

       Quoting a loser like Trent Dilfer who was a bust himself…..LOL…thanks for making me laugh

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    • #923645
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      eaAlwaysright

       Quoting a loser like Trent Dilfer who was a bust himself…..LOL…thanks for making me laugh

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  • #923641
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    Chilbert arenas
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    What’s you’re point? It’s easier to believe that Embiid would be on this list. than not if he can’t stay healthy. Trent Dilfer always says your best ability is your availability. Also Devin Harris was an all-star in 2009 if you forgot and a few of those other guys are still young and shouldn’t be considered busts.

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  • #923651
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    FearTheStache
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     What’s your point? Couldn’t you say that about any player in the top 5? 

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  • #923524
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    FearTheStache
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     What’s your point? Couldn’t you say that about any player in the top 5? 

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  • #923665
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    BA30
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    The list is completely unfair. You can’t put players, especially ones that left after their freshman season’s in college, on a bust list. Plus we are talking about some players in a draft last year that many considered horrible and the year before only had one top level talent in Anthony Davis. In those drafts where the talent isn’t deep it truly is a crap shoot for players reaching their potential.

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  • #923538
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    BA30
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    The list is completely unfair. You can’t put players, especially ones that left after their freshman season’s in college, on a bust list. Plus we are talking about some players in a draft last year that many considered horrible and the year before only had one top level talent in Anthony Davis. In those drafts where the talent isn’t deep it truly is a crap shoot for players reaching their potential.

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  • #923667
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     I must give you credit where credit is due.  You are really good at creating an intriguing headline that always causes me to click… Followed by my immediate disappointment once I start reading your post.

    You’re half way there.

     

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  • #923540
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    Magic Jordan
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     I must give you credit where credit is due.  You are really good at creating an intriguing headline that always causes me to click… Followed by my immediate disappointment once I start reading your post.

    You’re half way there.

     

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  • #923698
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    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a solid defender. He was drafted for that, to be the best defender on his team. He has done a great job so far and is improving in every aspect of his game.

    Cody Zeller is far from a bust. He actually has a chance to be an all star some day, he’s got all the tools. Athleticism, skill, work ethic and seven feet tall. His mobility is off the charts for a guy his size.

    Why are you trying to make Charlotte look so bad? They’ve done a fairly solid job drafting since Rich Cho took over.

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  • #923572
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    Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is a solid defender. He was drafted for that, to be the best defender on his team. He has done a great job so far and is improving in every aspect of his game.

    Cody Zeller is far from a bust. He actually has a chance to be an all star some day, he’s got all the tools. Athleticism, skill, work ethic and seven feet tall. His mobility is off the charts for a guy his size.

    Why are you trying to make Charlotte look so bad? They’ve done a fairly solid job drafting since Rich Cho took over.

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    • #923652
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      eaAlwaysright

       Are u really defending MKG ??? Zeller ok he might have a year or two to develop..but MKG ??? Really ??? LOL

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    • #923779
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      eaAlwaysright

       Are u really defending MKG ??? Zeller ok he might have a year or two to develop..but MKG ??? Really ??? LOL

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  • #923700
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    Jakes746
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     A name I don’t see on there is Joel Embiid… You can’t predict the future so it is pointless to list all these guys saying he will be like them.

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  • #923574
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    Jakes746
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     A name I don’t see on there is Joel Embiid… You can’t predict the future so it is pointless to list all these guys saying he will be like them.

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    • #923648
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      eaAlwaysright

       Dont u get it ???

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    • #923775
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      eaAlwaysright

       Dont u get it ???

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  • #923749
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    Meditated States
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     He had no minutes to work with behind Jefferson. He is not a bust at all.

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  • #923622
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    Meditated States
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     He had no minutes to work with behind Jefferson. He is not a bust at all.

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  • #923656
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    abrownii
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     I think your whole thought process behind "bust" draft selection is 25% right. If a player is not 4 years into his career you can’t consider him a bust. Some players do make exceptions because their play was affected by poor team management and environment.

    For Example: Michael Beasley is far from a Bust, his first few year he was a legit second option behind Wade, then living in Miami negatively affected his already bad habits. He was moved constantly playing on bad teams and bad locations, and with bad coaching. I think next year if Beasley signs with the correct team that needs scoring, he’ll do fine.

    Otto Porter, Thomas Robinson, Cody Zeller, it’s way too early to determine whether they’re bust or not.

    Devin Harris was a legit Starting PG until injuries.

    Derrick Williams began to play better once he moved to Sac.

    and Evan Turner’s "bust" status depends on where he plays next year. Meaning on a team like Memphis or Miami Evan Turner abilities will be showcased, but on a team like Indiana where there’s too many ballhandlers he’ll sit the bench.

    Everyone else mention are legit bust

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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    • #923662
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      tuck243
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      Are not busts either…  I’m sorry, but Tyrus Thomas got a $40 million dollar contract and did everything we expected him to do.  He’s just a head case I guess…   Far from a bust though…  

      A bust is someone who showed they can’t hang in the league.  Dude is TRIPPING…

        

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    • #923789
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      tuck243
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      Are not busts either…  I’m sorry, but Tyrus Thomas got a $40 million dollar contract and did everything we expected him to do.  He’s just a head case I guess…   Far from a bust though…  

      A bust is someone who showed they can’t hang in the league.  Dude is TRIPPING…

        

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  • #923783
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    abrownii
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     I think your whole thought process behind "bust" draft selection is 25% right. If a player is not 4 years into his career you can’t consider him a bust. Some players do make exceptions because their play was affected by poor team management and environment.

    For Example: Michael Beasley is far from a Bust, his first few year he was a legit second option behind Wade, then living in Miami negatively affected his already bad habits. He was moved constantly playing on bad teams and bad locations, and with bad coaching. I think next year if Beasley signs with the correct team that needs scoring, he’ll do fine.

    Otto Porter, Thomas Robinson, Cody Zeller, it’s way too early to determine whether they’re bust or not.

    Devin Harris was a legit Starting PG until injuries.

    Derrick Williams began to play better once he moved to Sac.

    and Evan Turner’s "bust" status depends on where he plays next year. Meaning on a team like Memphis or Miami Evan Turner abilities will be showcased, but on a team like Indiana where there’s too many ballhandlers he’ll sit the bench.

    Everyone else mention are legit bust

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

     

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  • #923677
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    Chilbert arenas
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     To be fair Tyrus Thomas couldn’t hang in the league, thus him not being in the league despite only being 27 years old

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    • #923752
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      tuck243
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      I think it was because of not wanting it…  $8 Mill a year didn’t come because he was considered trash…  Larry Sanders is quickly becoming him though… 

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    • #923879
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      tuck243
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      I think it was because of not wanting it…  $8 Mill a year didn’t come because he was considered trash…  Larry Sanders is quickly becoming him though… 

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  • #923803
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    Chilbert arenas
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     To be fair Tyrus Thomas couldn’t hang in the league, thus him not being in the league despite only being 27 years old

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  • #923725
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    Captain L
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     Many on your list aren’t busts, they may not be all star or super stars but they aren’t busts either.  

    Your comments on Dilfer are rediculous, he also wasn’t a hall of fame player but he wasn’t a bust, he was a Super Bowl winning QB and a decent starting QB in the league.

     

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  • #923851
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     Many on your list aren’t busts, they may not be all star or super stars but they aren’t busts either.  

    Your comments on Dilfer are rediculous, he also wasn’t a hall of fame player but he wasn’t a bust, he was a Super Bowl winning QB and a decent starting QB in the league.

     

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