[GlenTaylorSucksParticipant]

…This article should eliminate them:

http://sports.yahoo.com/nba/news?slug=aw-wojnarowski_nba_micky_arison_fine_103111

 

"The NBA fined Miami Heat owner Micky Arison $500,000 on Monday for recent comments he made on Twitter that violated the league’s censure on speaking publicly about the lockout, league sources told Yahoo! Sports.

The fine is one of the largest for an individual in NBA history.

NBA commissioner David Stern came down hard for what was a clear undermining of the league’s selling point that the owners are united on demanding sweeping and unprecedented financial givebacks from the Players Association. While the union has long believed there are severe splits between big- and small-market owners, this was the first public sentiment from such a high-ranking NBA official confirming it.

Arison responded to a poster on Twitter who had directed a comment to him questioning, “How does it feel to be a part of ruining the best game in the world? NBA owners/players don’t give a damn about fans … Fans provide all the money you’re fighting over … you greedy pigs.”

In response, Arison posted: “You are barking at the wrong owner.”

The response clearly fortified the belief Arison is part of a more moderate group of owners, mostly from big markets, who don’t share the opinion of the majority of hardliners who think the NBA needs to keep the players locked out to achieve financial concessions.

Another fan on Twitter asked Arison what he thought about eccentric Los Angeles Clippers owner Donald Sterling, and Arison responded with “lol.”

The tweets created an uproar on Twitter, inspiring Arison to soon delete them.

Stern has a strict policy that no league official – including owners, executives, front office personnel or coaches – are allowed to speak about the particulars of the lockout."

 

All I’ve gotta say is…wow. He’s REALLY daring to fine someone $500,000 for hinting that an owner was thinking for himself/not agreeing without question? How dare somebody be allowed to exhibit some sort of rational thought! I award Stern no points, and may God have mercy on his soul.

 

 

[Da1potParticipant]

 

[llperez]

stern has made it clear. The owners union is represented as whole and anyone who speaks against the union will be fined. Miamias owner basically said im not 100% on the owners side. He dissed the owenrs reps and was fined accordingly. Not sure what the problem is here.

[M-DYMESParticipant]

What a douche.  He used to be probably my favorite commish in sports, and still might be cuz that certainly isn’t saying much.  But, u gonna fine an owner for that statement?  Do something more useful with your time Stern, take up masterbaiting and maybe you’ll be less of a prick and we can get through this God forsaken lockout. 

[HitsterParticipant]

Stern effectively reports to the owners but has the power to fine them etc, what would happen if a core of major team owners started speaking up or called for a vote of no confidence in Stern.

Lets say the Nets owner gives his comments on the lockout to a Russian newspaper how could he be held accountable in another country?

[raybeasParticipant]

Any doubt. Now or ever. I thought Goodell was an egomaniac. Stern fines his bosses more than he fines his employees.

[M-DYMESParticipant]

[Jlv2011]

always will be.  A coup by the owners or players seems like the best solution. 

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

He laid out the Rules nice and clear…No Comments on the Lock Out until it’s resolved…It’s not resolved and Arison spoke about the lock out(yes it was a short response to a question…but he spoke out nonetheless and on TWITTER for gosh sakes…) What I don’t I don’t respect is the fact this AHOLE Arison (who lucked up Trading for Shaq (Thank You Kobe) and Drafting D.Wade (Thank You Detroit, Darko really???) winning a Championship (Thank You Dallas’s soft ass defense pre Chandler) and Signing Lebron and Bosh)…What has The Miami franchise really done, they were among the worst Teas in setting attendence,jersey sales,tv contracts Before the BIG 3 last summer(even with Wade and the Championship a few seasons ago) He should be on the side of the Owners because without them Failing to bring in Free Agents he could Monopolize the Talent because of a technicality and Random Luck…He’s actually going against the best interest of the League by making these statements…Of course he’s not going complain about $$$ and contracts, he has 2 of the best players in the World under contract and a 3rd who would be most Teams Best player as well…it’s extremely hipocritical to say stuff like that when other teams dont have one Guy to Market or call Their Star…I’m hoping the Owners and STERN in particular hold firm at 50/50 hell I would go for the throat and DEMAND 60/40 for the Owners, they have all the expenses, they pay the bills, they make the deals with TV/Cable Networks, maintain the daily operations of countless Stadiums and Training facilities over the Globe…They are the NBA infastructure, the players are paid VERY WELL, and 40 percent of the Whole is a very fair deal in any business, hell I’ll ask you all this, do you get 40 percent of the Profit at your job???

[M-DYMESParticipant]

I agree with you to a certain extent Scarecrow, but the statement that he got fined for was…

"You are barking at the wrong owner"

Is that really so bad?  Is that necessarily speaking out on the lockout?  No.  He is just defending his name by some comment some punk on twitter made.  He didn’t say anything about the lockout.  He just basically said, Don’t b*tch and preach to me.  He didn’t mention the lockout at all.  Every word in that sentence, if broken down and put in context, does not address the lockout at all. If Stern wants to get all technical, then technically that statement did not address the lockout and does not warrant a fine.

[MJBrownParticipant]

I agree with a lot of your thoughts about the amount of money the owners should be making. You are right that its hard to think of a business where the employees are asking for more than 50% of the operating budget. The problem is that the employees that we are talking about are the worlds greatest athletes; house hold names. This popularity creates a feeling of entitlement for them. With that being said…

Its the owners fault for every allowing their employees to make the amount of money that they do. Juwan Howard and Rashard Lewis were never the best players in the league and never deserved the money they received; however, that doesn’t entitle the owners to force a paycut upon them and their colleagues. If they want their money back they should try baby steps. Take the offer of 52.5% for this agreement and re-negotiate next decade. Rome wasn’t built in a day.

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 Stern has the power to fine the owners and this Tweet was big time. Everyone knows that the major teams can make plenty of money under the old 57-43 split. Everyone suspects that the major teams will settle for a better 53-47 split. But now we know that some of the major owners are getting P.O.’ed. And not only that, since they know they aren’t supposed to talk, we know know that Arison is getting to the point where he is ready to starting making waves and rocking the boat. Just like McGee screwed things up a bit for the players and made the owners think the players are closer to cracking, this tweet should make the players a little more confident that the owners might be cracking too. 

This negotiation is trying to figure out where each party will crack. These slip ups make a real difference and probably as significant as many of the face to face discussions. Each side wants to know, what kind of deal will I get if I just hold out another couple of weeks. If that deal is good enough to warrant messing with the fans and losing a few weeks of revenue or salary than you hold out. But if you think holding out a few more weeks is just going to leave you hanging at the same place because the other side will never crack, then and only then is it time to negotiate. 

[TallmanNYCParticipant]

 MJ Brown, you actually understimate the cost of salaries. Many businesses spend the vast majority of their operating budget on salaries. Any business where you don’t need large amounts of material goods is going to be a business where most of the operating budget is salaries. Law firms, accounting firms – it is all salaries. Movies, again, mainly salaries. Software programming – buy a few computers and the rest of your expense is salaries. Publishing, newspapares – most of the cost is going to be on salaries in one way or another. 

But I agree with you, the owners have no leg to stand on. They are asking for more because they think they can get more. They don’t need more. Every owner can sell their franchise for a fat profit right now. Or they can be a little more prudent on how they give out contracts (remove head from a$$) and they can save on costs and run a profit in a year or two. 

[llperez]

@mdymes, you are really being naive on arison’s statement if you dont think it was aimed directly at some of the other owners. It has been widely reported that some of the bigger market owners want to get a deal done and are willing to give in some while its the smaller market owners are basically leading this lockout because they want to save money. Arison is throwing feul on the fire that there is tension in terms of harmony and unity on the owners side by basically saying "go talk to the other owners, not me."

[M-DYMESParticipant]

Yes, but as I have been told in the past…

There are ways of saying things, without techincally saying them.  And these fines are very technical most of the time.  Technically, if you take things at face value, nothing "wrong" was stated.  Nothing speicifcally related to the lockout.  You could put those direct words in many statements, and they would not be subject to a fine. 

[aamir543Participant]

Hell, he even fined the G.O.A.T. for talking about the lockout, and that surprised me, cause I thought Jordan was still blackmailing him about what really happened in 1993.

[jeff416Participant]

I don’t really disagree with him getting a fine, but $500,000 seems like too much for a statement like that.

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