[MopgrassParticipant]

 There are several ways the Sixer front-court could look next year: C Okafor PF Saric or C Embiid PF Noel or, if they pick 1st, C Okafor PF Simmons. They could have all those players if they pick 1st and that sounds insane. With Hinkie, I assumed they’d take Simmons. Love him or hate, Hinkie drafted with no regard for position or clutter. You could count on it. I have no clue what Collangelo will do. 

If Collangelo is a rational human being, and I think he is, won’t he have to make some trades? Doesn’t he have to consider Ingram even if they don’t think he’s as good as Simmons? Usually you don’t draft  for position, but most teams don’t have their 4 best players playing only 2 different positions. I thought the one flaw with Hinkie’s plan besides it testing fan patience, was that when every other GM sees that you have a glut of players at the same position, they know you have to trade some of them. And when other teams know you have to get rid of someone, your leverage goes way down. How does Collangelo handle this? 

Hinkie’s leaving may open up the free agent market for the Sixers. Hinkie was seen by players as this weird non-basketball thinking, losing, unpredictable guy that was best left alone. As his reign comes to a close, some young players might notice the talent piling up in Philly and vets might not be so scared to join. Will free agency be as grim as it has been? 

 

[holefillers1Participant]

He could trade the pick.  I see the Sixers trading their pick plus a big, try to land a guy like Jimmy Butler.  

[therealbballerParticipant]

 One of their big and the pick is way too much.. I mean Jimmy Butler is good but would you say that it is worth to get rid of Simmons/Ingram and Embid/Okafor for Jimmy Butler? 

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 would pack Jimmy’s bags for him to get this deal done!

[ChewyParticipant]

 would pack Jimmy’s bags for him to get this deal done!

[ditotayParticipant]

 I would do it in a heartbeat, but the tandem Paxson – Forman rarely do trades thinking in upgrading the team. They rather preffer to dump salaries.

Portis – Simmons – Mirotic/McDermott – INSERT YOUR SG HERE-Rose would be a nice core to develop. It would be Thibs’ nightmare and Hoiberg dream.

 

[ditotayParticipant]

 I would do it in a heartbeat, but the tandem Paxson – Forman rarely do trades thinking in upgrading the team. They rather preffer to dump salaries.

Portis – Simmons – Mirotic/McDermott – INSERT YOUR SG HERE-Rose would be a nice core to develop. It would be Thibs’ nightmare and Hoiberg dream.

 

[ChewyParticipant]

 how many times have we cut Kirk Hinrich to save some money now? 2? 5? 20 times?

[ChewyParticipant]

 how many times have we cut Kirk Hinrich to save some money now? 2? 5? 20 times?

[negguaryParticipant]

My sentiments exactly!! That would be the worse kind of move to be made. Like Jimmy couldn’t get out of the second round with a great team and coaching so what is he realistically going to add to one that is developing.

[negguaryParticipant]

My sentiments exactly!! That would be the worse kind of move to be made. Like Jimmy couldn’t get out of the second round with a great team and coaching so what is he realistically going to add to one that is developing.

[holefillers1Participant]

 I mean a stud wing or a scoring point. Doesn’t have to be Butler. pG-13, Damien Lillard. You get what point, trade assests to acquire talent..,.the reverse Hinkie.

[holefillers1Participant]

 I mean a stud wing or a scoring point. Doesn’t have to be Butler. pG-13, Damien Lillard. You get what point, trade assests to acquire talent..,.the reverse Hinkie.

[MatosParticipant]

If Indiana accepted that trade for PG13, I would literally just throw them cash and an extra pick for their generosity 

[MatosParticipant]

If Indiana accepted that trade for PG13, I would literally just throw them cash and an extra pick for their generosity 

[therealbballerParticipant]

 One of their big and the pick is way too much.. I mean Jimmy Butler is good but would you say that it is worth to get rid of Simmons/Ingram and Embid/Okafor for Jimmy Butler? 

 

[holefillers1Participant]

He could trade the pick.  I see the Sixers trading their pick plus a big, try to land a guy like Jimmy Butler.  

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 office…… And that Infrastructure was dedicated to Analytics in All phases of the operation……. They have a lot of young administrative talent……..

 No Matter how anyone feels about Hinkie….. If you are a Sixers fan, the idea that Colangelo – who has Only been to Phila 5 times since being hired 6 months ago – hired his kid in less than 4 hours after Hinkie quit would really concern me……..

All that young Talent in the building or out on the road Scouting might leave now……….. b/c the Colangelo’s are like Dinosaurs……. Why wouldn’t the Phila ownership consider bringing in a Danny Ferry or someone in that ilk,…… Someone younger & interested in the Analytics movement…….. 

This turn over appears very quick & not at all thought out……. If I was Boston or Portland or Phoenix’s GM I would be on the phone w/ Colangelo trying to steal some of that young talent or Draft picks…..

 We All know the Colangelos are going to quickly put together a 35 win team by trading those picks & those young Bigs for Decent Veteran players ……..- suck as much money out of that franschise as possible……….

 & Phila will be trapped for a Decade as the 8th, 9th or 10th seed in the East…….. Just like they were before Hinkie arrived when Doug Collins blew up the Franchise……

 

 

[therealbballerParticipant]

 Word!!

 

[therealbballerParticipant]

 Word!!

 

[220Participant]

 Danny Ferry? Someone of his ilk aka Spurs assistant to the GM sure, but Ferry no thanks. Perhaps the 76ers still someone like that as assistant GM.

Jerry Colangelo is clearly respected around the league so I imagine agents will stop encouraging their players to avoid Philadelphia like a plague. His presence will help them retain their players when they become free agents and the 76ers will start looking like a team.

I’m not thrilled about Bryan Colangelo being hired because he’s never been too impressive in any of his prior front office stints. Perhaps if father and son properly utilize analytics while hiring strong scouts and player development people can have significant success. Bryan wouldn’t be the first GM who wasn’t great in his job or two who become much better in a new position.

Regarding analytics they clearly aren’t enough on their own. The 76ers are absolutely relying on analytics and the results have yet to show anything spectacular. The Rockets also are known to utilize analytics and after a strong season last year they are struggling this season. I heard Jerry Colangelo talking about analytics and I think he nailed it saying it’s much more trustworthy in baseball as so many actions are independent. Basketball being a more fluid game can’t solely rely on analytics because it doesn’t totally factor in the team aspect. I forget who said it, but a front office person said analytics is best used as another filter when examining players rather than as an entire guide of what to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[220Participant]

 Danny Ferry? Someone of his ilk aka Spurs assistant to the GM sure, but Ferry no thanks. Perhaps the 76ers still someone like that as assistant GM.

Jerry Colangelo is clearly respected around the league so I imagine agents will stop encouraging their players to avoid Philadelphia like a plague. His presence will help them retain their players when they become free agents and the 76ers will start looking like a team.

I’m not thrilled about Bryan Colangelo being hired because he’s never been too impressive in any of his prior front office stints. Perhaps if father and son properly utilize analytics while hiring strong scouts and player development people can have significant success. Bryan wouldn’t be the first GM who wasn’t great in his job or two who become much better in a new position.

Regarding analytics they clearly aren’t enough on their own. The 76ers are absolutely relying on analytics and the results have yet to show anything spectacular. The Rockets also are known to utilize analytics and after a strong season last year they are struggling this season. I heard Jerry Colangelo talking about analytics and I think he nailed it saying it’s much more trustworthy in baseball as so many actions are independent. Basketball being a more fluid game can’t solely rely on analytics because it doesn’t totally factor in the team aspect. I forget who said it, but a front office person said analytics is best used as another filter when examining players rather than as an entire guide of what to do.

 

 

 

 

 

 

[phila9012Participant]

 Yeah, they actually have assets now and if they get the Lakers pick they are in business. They also have a ton of cap room and other first and second round picks. I think they got rid of him too soon. They are going to wind up like the pelicans, where they try to speed up the rebuilding process and wind up setting the franchise back 4 years to be a 7th or 8th for a year or 2.

[phila9012Participant]

 Yeah, they actually have assets now and if they get the Lakers pick they are in business. They also have a ton of cap room and other first and second round picks. I think they got rid of him too soon. They are going to wind up like the pelicans, where they try to speed up the rebuilding process and wind up setting the franchise back 4 years to be a 7th or 8th for a year or 2.

[NBAjunkie81Participant]

 office…… And that Infrastructure was dedicated to Analytics in All phases of the operation……. They have a lot of young administrative talent……..

 No Matter how anyone feels about Hinkie….. If you are a Sixers fan, the idea that Colangelo – who has Only been to Phila 5 times since being hired 6 months ago – hired his kid in less than 4 hours after Hinkie quit would really concern me……..

All that young Talent in the building or out on the road Scouting might leave now……….. b/c the Colangelo’s are like Dinosaurs……. Why wouldn’t the Phila ownership consider bringing in a Danny Ferry or someone in that ilk,…… Someone younger & interested in the Analytics movement…….. 

This turn over appears very quick & not at all thought out……. If I was Boston or Portland or Phoenix’s GM I would be on the phone w/ Colangelo trying to steal some of that young talent or Draft picks…..

 We All know the Colangelos are going to quickly put together a 35 win team by trading those picks & those young Bigs for Decent Veteran players ……..- suck as much money out of that franschise as possible……….

 & Phila will be trapped for a Decade as the 8th, 9th or 10th seed in the East…….. Just like they were before Hinkie arrived when Doug Collins blew up the Franchise……

 

 

[Make’Em Say UGHParticipant]

In my eyes, they would almost HAVE to draft Ingram here to save face. Atleast I would. The experiment is over (for better or worse) and while I can’t fault a team for stockpiling high talent….at some point it became unbearable.

Brandon is THE perfect pick in terms of changing direction: he has a quiet/calm demeanor, can really evolve at the next level as their primary scoring option (Sixers are dead last in PPG in a scoring league), comparable to Durant for a reason, honestly cares about winning (watch his emotional press conference when Duke lost in the tourney), great locker room guy. The list goes on….and this is coming from a UNC fan.

The Duke connection will be there between Brandon and Jahlil. I could see them both as the cornerstone for this franchise in the next few years. Why pass up on this opportunity. You have a great big in Okafor, a rim protecter in Noel, now get your scorer! Don’t overthink this one Philly.

[Make’Em Say UGHParticipant]

In my eyes, they would almost HAVE to draft Ingram here to save face. Atleast I would. The experiment is over (for better or worse) and while I can’t fault a team for stockpiling high talent….at some point it became unbearable.

Brandon is THE perfect pick in terms of changing direction: he has a quiet/calm demeanor, can really evolve at the next level as their primary scoring option (Sixers are dead last in PPG in a scoring league), comparable to Durant for a reason, honestly cares about winning (watch his emotional press conference when Duke lost in the tourney), great locker room guy. The list goes on….and this is coming from a UNC fan.

The Duke connection will be there between Brandon and Jahlil. I could see them both as the cornerstone for this franchise in the next few years. Why pass up on this opportunity. You have a great big in Okafor, a rim protecter in Noel, now get your scorer! Don’t overthink this one Philly.

[TeslaBallerParticipant]

I originally thought the Colangelo hiring was a bad idea. The only positive being an added respectability in the eyes of players and more importantly agents around the league. Free Agency will be scary because of the unknown philosophy of the Colangelo clan, the available cap money to spend and what I assume to be total control of the checkbook. Hopefully they don’t throw max money at Barnes or Conley just to be relevant in the standings. 

Hiring baby Colangelo minutes after Hinkie steps down adds to my fear factor when it comes to the draft. I don’t know what the Colangelo philosophy on the draft is but Hinkie’s BPA mantra was okay by me. A top 2 pick this year is a must and Hinkie gave the team the best odds possible. You can’t mess up the #2 pick this year but if the Sixers win the lottery then the Colangelo’s better get it right. I’m hopeful that they will.

In terms of trades; with Hinkie or Colangelo I expect 1 of Noel or Oakafor to be moved this off season. Which one and "for who, for what" I can’t say but Hinkie’s idea of accumulating assets should pay off by cashing one in this summer. 

Mopgrass to address your post directly. Yes you have to consider Ingram of course but you pick the better player regardless of position. You don’t pass up Jordan because you have Drexler.

Yes trades will have to be made but players don’t lose value because you have a scarcity of minutes for them on your team and another GM knows it. 

 

 

 

 

[TeslaBallerParticipant]

I originally thought the Colangelo hiring was a bad idea. The only positive being an added respectability in the eyes of players and more importantly agents around the league. Free Agency will be scary because of the unknown philosophy of the Colangelo clan, the available cap money to spend and what I assume to be total control of the checkbook. Hopefully they don’t throw max money at Barnes or Conley just to be relevant in the standings. 

Hiring baby Colangelo minutes after Hinkie steps down adds to my fear factor when it comes to the draft. I don’t know what the Colangelo philosophy on the draft is but Hinkie’s BPA mantra was okay by me. A top 2 pick this year is a must and Hinkie gave the team the best odds possible. You can’t mess up the #2 pick this year but if the Sixers win the lottery then the Colangelo’s better get it right. I’m hopeful that they will.

In terms of trades; with Hinkie or Colangelo I expect 1 of Noel or Oakafor to be moved this off season. Which one and "for who, for what" I can’t say but Hinkie’s idea of accumulating assets should pay off by cashing one in this summer. 

Mopgrass to address your post directly. Yes you have to consider Ingram of course but you pick the better player regardless of position. You don’t pass up Jordan because you have Drexler.

Yes trades will have to be made but players don’t lose value because you have a scarcity of minutes for them on your team and another GM knows it. 

 

 

 

 

[timinator1Participant]

Kris Dunn, Jamal Murray and Buddy Heild are sitting there…

I’m a huge Duke homer, and as much as I like Ingram, I don’t love him in this lineup. If they go with him, then I think Okafor has to go. Ingram loves to drive and shoot threes, and Jah clogs that low block.

[timinator1Participant]

Kris Dunn, Jamal Murray and Buddy Heild are sitting there…

I’m a huge Duke homer, and as much as I like Ingram, I don’t love him in this lineup. If they go with him, then I think Okafor has to go. Ingram loves to drive and shoot threes, and Jah clogs that low block.

[Robb_CParticipant]

 If Bulls get the Sixers pick no way do they trade up to draft another player from LSU, (we all know how that worked out with Tyrus Thomas) Couple that with the fact Paxson has a Hard-On for Duke Players, it be safe to say Brandon Ingram would be Chicagos Pick… Ben Simmons is overrated

[Robb_CParticipant]

 If Bulls get the Sixers pick no way do they trade up to draft another player from LSU, (we all know how that worked out with Tyrus Thomas) Couple that with the fact Paxson has a Hard-On for Duke Players, it be safe to say Brandon Ingram would be Chicagos Pick… Ben Simmons is overrated

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

I think the main task for Brown and Collangelo to bring some level of coherence to how they want to play and how to support the young players they want to build around. Developing players is not just rolling the ball out for a bunch of 20-year olds to get rolled while waiting until LeBron Jr comes around. It makes no sense to draft 7-footers who play in the paint, surround them with athletes who can’t shoot, and then try to play like Houston or Golden State. Do they dedicate themselves to building to maximize around the strengths and abilities of the players they have or will have following their top 5 pick, or do build around a style?  

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

I think the main task for Brown and Collangelo to bring some level of coherence to how they want to play and how to support the young players they want to build around. Developing players is not just rolling the ball out for a bunch of 20-year olds to get rolled while waiting until LeBron Jr comes around. It makes no sense to draft 7-footers who play in the paint, surround them with athletes who can’t shoot, and then try to play like Houston or Golden State. Do they dedicate themselves to building to maximize around the strengths and abilities of the players they have or will have following their top 5 pick, or do build around a style?  

[MatosParticipant]

 At this point even with Collangello at the helm, I dont see any free agents coming to philly. With that uunderstanding that star free agents wont sign with the team, you have to keep that in mind when making trades. Because if you make a trade for a star player or star caliber player, you have to understand that they wont resign with the team or do not owe you any lotalty. On the flipside you dont get rid of lottery picks and first round picks for average talent. So the only logical thing to do is keep the picks and build your team from the draft like OKC/GSW. 

So from the Sixers’ front office standpoint their budget needs to be heavily invested in scouting and development. Maybe even try to get some of the OKC/GSW scouting/development staff and even some more folks with history from San Antonio.

 

[MatosParticipant]

 At this point even with Collangello at the helm, I dont see any free agents coming to philly. With that uunderstanding that star free agents wont sign with the team, you have to keep that in mind when making trades. Because if you make a trade for a star player or star caliber player, you have to understand that they wont resign with the team or do not owe you any lotalty. On the flipside you dont get rid of lottery picks and first round picks for average talent. So the only logical thing to do is keep the picks and build your team from the draft like OKC/GSW. 

So from the Sixers’ front office standpoint their budget needs to be heavily invested in scouting and development. Maybe even try to get some of the OKC/GSW scouting/development staff and even some more folks with history from San Antonio.

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Philly have a load of cap space and can make offers for players, whether anyone goes there is another question. Harrison Barnes isn’t as daft as it sounds if they miss out on Ingram or Simmons. He has his title already, a good chance of another this year. If GSW won’t offer him what he wants then at least sign a max sheet with the 76ers to see if GSW match.

I could imagine some RFAs using Philly as leverage almost.

As regards draft  think if they get first pick it is almost a toss up but personally I prefer Simmons. If they get 2nd pick then take whoever is left out f Ingram or Simmons. 3rd pick take either Hield or Dunn. If Lakers pick comes over at 4 or 5 then if one of Hield or Dunn is still there take whoever is available, if pick is a bit lower then one of Brown or Murray.

 

 

 

 

[HitsterParticipant]

 Philly have a load of cap space and can make offers for players, whether anyone goes there is another question. Harrison Barnes isn’t as daft as it sounds if they miss out on Ingram or Simmons. He has his title already, a good chance of another this year. If GSW won’t offer him what he wants then at least sign a max sheet with the 76ers to see if GSW match.

I could imagine some RFAs using Philly as leverage almost.

As regards draft  think if they get first pick it is almost a toss up but personally I prefer Simmons. If they get 2nd pick then take whoever is left out f Ingram or Simmons. 3rd pick take either Hield or Dunn. If Lakers pick comes over at 4 or 5 then if one of Hield or Dunn is still there take whoever is available, if pick is a bit lower then one of Brown or Murray.

 

 

 

 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

The Sixers will have to spend some money. If the cap goes up to around $89 million (I remember that was the projected number from a while back and have not seen a more recent estimate) and a team has to reach 90 percent of that number, Philadelphia will need to spent close to $30 million even after signing all their rookies. I do not think it is of the upmost importance for them to offer max money to anyone, but they need to give their young players some support. Washington did this when they did away with the still young and healthy Blatche, McGee, and Swaggy P to allow Wall, Beal, and ultimately Porter a chance to grow with pros to aid them. The problem I see is that I don’t know whether Brown and Collangelo will want to build big (to tailor to Okafor and presumably Embiid) or build around pace (they did hire D’Antoni). Teams can build to win in different ways. San Antonio and Golden State are built almost as stylistic opposites, but they are the two best teams in the league. What they cannot do, is try and run with Okafor and Noel up front, no shooters on the wings, and Isaiah Canaan as the point. It hinders everyone’s development. If they bring over Dario, how do they incorporate him? I would think D’Antoni would love having him as a major player if they commit to playing with pace. If they are lucky enough to draft Ben Simmons, how can anyone in good conscience surround him with guys who can’t shoot and allow teams to pack the paint? 

[BothTeamsPlayedHardParticipant]

The Sixers will have to spend some money. If the cap goes up to around $89 million (I remember that was the projected number from a while back and have not seen a more recent estimate) and a team has to reach 90 percent of that number, Philadelphia will need to spent close to $30 million even after signing all their rookies. I do not think it is of the upmost importance for them to offer max money to anyone, but they need to give their young players some support. Washington did this when they did away with the still young and healthy Blatche, McGee, and Swaggy P to allow Wall, Beal, and ultimately Porter a chance to grow with pros to aid them. The problem I see is that I don’t know whether Brown and Collangelo will want to build big (to tailor to Okafor and presumably Embiid) or build around pace (they did hire D’Antoni). Teams can build to win in different ways. San Antonio and Golden State are built almost as stylistic opposites, but they are the two best teams in the league. What they cannot do, is try and run with Okafor and Noel up front, no shooters on the wings, and Isaiah Canaan as the point. It hinders everyone’s development. If they bring over Dario, how do they incorporate him? I would think D’Antoni would love having him as a major player if they commit to playing with pace. If they are lucky enough to draft Ben Simmons, how can anyone in good conscience surround him with guys who can’t shoot and allow teams to pack the paint? 

[timinator1Participant]

around the league. 76ers will be one of 30 teams with a ton of cap room. If you are Harrison Barnes, and everyone has the money you want, would YOU pick the Sixers? 

[timinator1Participant]

around the league. 76ers will be one of 30 teams with a ton of cap room. If you are Harrison Barnes, and everyone has the money you want, would YOU pick the Sixers? 

[timinator1Participant]

Think he put his house on the market this morning? : ) 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I hope not. It’s hard to say he’s done a good job considering his record, but he did well with the D-League roster he’s had to work with. He must be a good motivator because they seldom looked like they were giving up. It’d be real nice to for them to let someone see this thing through. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

 I hope not. It’s hard to say he’s done a good job considering his record, but he did well with the D-League roster he’s had to work with. He must be a good motivator because they seldom looked like they were giving up. It’d be real nice to for them to let someone see this thing through. 

[timinator1Participant]

Think he put his house on the market this morning? : ) 

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