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  • #20248
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    If you truly know basketball you’ll know that they won’t get 72 wins,and just because they have dwade, lebron, and bosh doesn’t mean they’ll get the number 1 seed. All of the other talented teams in the league aren’t just going to lay down. And spoelstra sucks as a coach

    So if you think that they will be the number 1 seed and get anywhere near 72 wins. you need to kill yourself and get off of this site. That is all.

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  • #369672
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    dwilks101586
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    yea a lot of people are jus givin dem the ring already but the rest of the team sucks outside of the big 3 they have mike miller and eddie house other then that who’s on this team who matters. They will lost to the magics or boston in the eastern finals now 2011 is a different story they could get a better team and we’ll see wat happens but right now hell no.

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  • #369676
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    Platypus
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    the mike miller signing still doesnt make sense to me

    @dwilks101586 dont forget about Haslem

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  • #369677
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    dwat4444
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    i posted this earlier, but i see them at about 50-55 wins. their too talented to not do decent but the new roles are going to take adjusting. LBJ will have to less selfish, bosh is going to accept being the 3rd wheel, and wade should remain the leader. The problem with spoelstra is he is not going to dominate the locker room. Wade and LBJ are going to be bigger than him, and that might lead to issues. The best teams have vocal coaches who take advice from players but still make the decisions. Phil listens to Kobe but he has the final say, same with Doc and the Big 3. I don’t see Sproelstra making that big decision and that will hurt them in tough games.

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  • #369679
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    Prophet
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    I wouldnt agree that Eric sucks as coach – last year he turned a bunch of expiring contracts into top – 10 defence.

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  • #369683
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    PurpleMonkeyDishwasher
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  • #369685
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    sheltwon3
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    Okay there is no way Heat get 72 wins, Chicago had a solid team from front to back and been together for a while. Their chemistry was on point and they had MJ who is a great finisher and Pippen who can make key defensive stops all the time. The league had some expansion teams that really sucked at that time. It would be hard for that Bulls team that won 72 to win that many going against the same team Miami will have to face. Miami should win between 56 and 60 games

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  • #369690
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    Chrischi
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    I think they’ll win between 58-65. I mean Lebron and some good starters were enough to win the reg. season with 60 wins. That’s why I think they or the Lakers will win the reg. season. But that doesn’t mean I’m giving them them ring already. Playoffs are a totally different story. I still don’t know how they want to stop Howard and the Celtics can beat everyone at any time. And Chicago could be pretty tough, too although I think Miami could win that match-up battle.

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  • #369699
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    Michael.S.
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    Seriously? You guys are deinitely underrating the superstar-power this team has. I mean LeBron leads his teams. no matter how good they were/are, to 60 wins and a deep playoff run every year. Add Wade, who leads his subpar supporting cast to the playoffs each year, and also a championship(sort of). Plus they also have one of the best bigmen in the game in Bosh, along with a top 5 player andthe top player(imo). Then their supporting cast, although not very good or great, still has a couple impat players. Mike Miller is severely underrated, Haslem is a potentil double double guy that brings intangibles, and House and Z are proven players.

    70 wins and a title are within reach,

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  • #369712
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    sacphil_08
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    70 wins is unrealistic. As was pointed out previously, the bulls had not only jordan and pippen but ron harper, toni kukoc, dennis rodman as well as a stellar bench and they had been playing together for a long time which makes all the difference in the world. The heat don’t have a michael jordan, who won them a number of close games during their run that season. Phil jackson had implemented his system to that team years before and they knew exactly how to run it to perfection. Neither lebron nor bosh has played for spoelstra so that connection isnt there and whos to say that spoelstra can even create something that works for them? Pretend you arent a lebron fan for a minute and you’ll realize that its beyond the realm of possibility especially for this season. The last team that came close was dallas… They had a legit closer in dirk, a top 10 defense, and a coach that never rested to name a few things. We still dont even know how sturdy miami’s defense will be.

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  • #369715
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    Michael.S.
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    If lebron can lead a team of nobodys to 66 wins, Lebron, Wade, and Bosh can lead this team to 70. No doubt.

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  • #369717
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    Toronto16
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    We still dont even know how sturdy miami’s defense will be.

    ^ This.

    Who is going to guard opposing big men? Chris Bosh? Big Z? The 6’9 Joel Anthony? Their interior defence is terrible.

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  • #369724
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    gainsey15
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    I can see them winning 63-68 wins this year and maybe getting to the finals biggest factor for them will be how fast Lebron and Wade can get comfortable playing together, (and don’t tell me they looked good in the all-star games they played together teams are going to play defense now) how will the role players play, and if they can defend the paint. If they have trouble defending the paint I could see Orlando or Boston beating them in the playoffs.

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  • #369732
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    SubZero
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    Mo Williams, Antawn Jamison, Shaq, Delonte West, Anderson Varejao, and Big Z aren’t nobodies. Sure, they can’t do crap on their own, but they each have roles on a winning team. They aren’t superstars, but they aren’t nobodies either

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  • #369735
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    Michael.S.
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    Jamison is vastly overrated, Mo Williams is a nobody when it matters most, And Shaq is so washed up it ain’t funny. They are nobodies compared to Wade and Bosh

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  • #369751
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    Jlv2010

    Lebron sucks. End of story.

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  • #369804
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    Okay I’m tired of people saying Lebron led a group of nobodies, that team had 4(all stars) besides Lebron in Jamison, Mo Williams, Shaq,and Z, plus Hickson is an up and coming big man, delonte has always been a good role player. Jamario moon is good a defense and running, parker, was a shooter and a good perimeter defender. If they were nobodies they wouldn’t win over 60 games in the regular season. Everyone says Lebron makes his team mates better because he’s a good passer. Michael Jordan and Kobe bryant make their teams better by being good leaders, they weren’t nearly as good of passers as Lebron, when someone was slacking Kobe and Jordan were on them, Never letting anyone rest.

    Cleveland had a coaching problem,and a leadership problem. Lebron is doing what his nature is, taking the role of leader off of himself. If he was the leader Jordan and Kobe were, Mo Williams wouldn’t have went into hibernation in the playoffs.

    Another problem, is Cleveland kept building their team to combat other teams instead of building to win, they went and got jamario moon, shaq, and anthony parker to combat the Magic. look where that got them. Shaq was never right for that team, and Now he’s once again about to go to the finals and it will be without Lebron.

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  • #369820
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    halfdecayed
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    The only teams who could beat the heat in the playoffs would be boston celtics and maybe the magics and the bulls , and the first seed will be between heat and magics , the celtics will not have the first seed

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  • #369826
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    Michael.S.
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    Bron’ is probably the best leader today in the game. You are a hater, obviously. Moon is good at running right? LOL… You REALLY consider Shaq and Z all-stars still?!?!? And Mo Williams is a choke, who was an all-star REPLACEMENT

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  • #369841
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    mrknowitall313
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    damn yall dont know basketball. if you think they wont win more games than the 08 celtics you are crazy! i heard this same stuff about that team. they bench wasnt good enough, who is going to play point and center. if you think the combo of james, wade, and bosh in their primes wont be better than pierce, allen, and garnett something is wrong. do yall remember the playoffs that yr? two 7 game series to inferior teams. the heat will be better than that team. 68-14

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  • #369845
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    mrknowitall313
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    did you read what you typed before you typed it? when was the last time jamison and big z were allstars? (i dont remember big z ever making it) when was the last time shaq made an allstar game on his play on the court? how many all star games did williams play in before he came to the cavs? kobe has artest, gasol, bynum, fisher, and odom while bron had williams, shaq, big z, parker, moon, and hickson. see the difference? the magic had a better team hell they backup center that dont get mins is better than any big that the cavs had ( that includes an old shaq and a soft jamison)

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  • #369850
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    Platypus
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    can someone honestly tell me what the point of signing Mike Miller (to a contract of 30 mill for 5 yrs, so 6 mill a season) was?

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  • #369857
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    Um Z is a 2 time all star, did you seriously just say that you didn’t know Z was an all star? Lamar odom, andrew bynum, and d. fisher have never made an all start game, not to mention odom is inconsistent, bynum is always injured, and fisher has been playing worst every year. And this is coming from a Lakers fan.

    If Mo Williams played with michael Jordan or kobe bryant, he wouldn’t choke. Lebron plays better in a fast paced game, that’s why I said Moon is good at running the floor. Lebron isn’t a leader that’s why he’s going to defer to dwayne wade.

    Lebron James quit and he allowed his team to quit. Lebron is the best athlete and dominant force in the game of basketball, but a great leader he is not.

    Jamison averaged 20.5 points and 8.8 rebounds before he got to the cavs in 2009-2010. So are you telling me he isn’t a good player?

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  • #369869
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    mrknowitall313
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    jamison sucks he put that up on a terrible wizards team and what the hell does being on an all star team mean? nothing!big z only made it because it was a lack of big men in the east at the time. brad miller made a couple too lol. i can name a bunch of all stars that hasnt won anything in the league. how the hell do you sound saying if mo williams played with jordan or bryant he wouldnt have choked. that single handly has to be the craziest thing i have ever read on here. this man led one of the worst teams he has had in cleveland to finals (yeah he they got swept but didnt shaq in his first finals) he took that team to heights they never been to. you put kobe on that squad you get the very same results except with more crying. at least lebron never demanded a trade smh

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  • #369870
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    mrknowitall313
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    KOBE HAS NEVER DID IT BY HIMSELF I REPEAT KOBE HAS NEVER DID IT BY HIMSELF. if it wasnt for fisher, artest, and gasol they would have lost that game. he wouldnt won it the year before without gasol and dont get me started on the other 3 championships. fisher might have had a lackluster regular season but he stepped in the playoffs. i rather have that than mo williams playing good in the reg. season and not showing up when it count.

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  • #369940
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    Pistol Pete. The Pelican
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    you just said there are a lot of all stars who haven’t one anything. Isn’t Lebron an all star who hasn’t won anything? You just made yourself sound dumb.

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  • #369984
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    Mr.Knick 32
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    This site is slipping. I mean, we have too many Haters here.

    Let’s appreicate what were gonna see. The Heat will be the 1 seed. I don’t know about 70 wins but 65 is capable.

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  • #370017
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    Chicago1980
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    They arent gonna win 72 games but they will win at least 63. If u look at what lebron did alone in cleveland they were winning 60 games and they dont have the talent that miami has also when boston put there super team together they went 66-16 the first year and in my opinion miami has more overall talent than that boston team.

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  • #370170
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    mrknowitall313
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    no you were the one that brought up them being all stars like that means anything.

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  • #370173
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    IknoBall12
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    this comment i read. mike miller signing doesnt mkae sense? are u kidding me? haha wat an idiot. but their rite about 72 wins that ridiculous

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