Guys Who Were NOT 1st Option College Players but 1st option NBA Players

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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:33am #32615

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Vince Carter
played next to POY Antawn Jamison.
final year avgs:
Jamison- 22.2ppg
Carter- 15.6
Carter max NBA avg: (27.6)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:39am #589654

ilike.panochas
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Gilbert Arenas wasn’t even the 2nd option, probably even 3rd option with his playing days with Arizona. One of the biggest surprise 2nd round pick of all time (too bad his prime years were cut short of knee injuries and troubles).
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:39am #589661

ilike.panochas
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Gilbert Arenas wasn’t even the 2nd option, probably even 3rd option with his playing days with Arizona. One of the biggest surprise 2nd round pick of all time (too bad his prime years were cut short of knee injuries and troubles).
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:39am #589237

ilike.panochas
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Gilbert Arenas wasn’t even the 2nd option, probably even 3rd option with his playing days with Arizona. One of the biggest surprise 2nd round pick of all time (too bad his prime years were cut short of knee injuries and troubles).
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:46am #589660

JoeWolf1
LaMarcus Aldridge played 2nd fiddle to P.J. Tucker at Texas
Tucker 16.2
Aldridge 15.0
Although, their averages were very close, Tucker was the go to guy on that team even though it was clear Aldridge had way more pro potential.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:46am #589667

JoeWolf1
LaMarcus Aldridge played 2nd fiddle to P.J. Tucker at Texas
Tucker 16.2
Aldridge 15.0
Although, their averages were very close, Tucker was the go to guy on that team even though it was clear Aldridge had way more pro potential.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:46am #589243

JoeWolf1
LaMarcus Aldridge played 2nd fiddle to P.J. Tucker at Texas
Tucker 16.2
Aldridge 15.0
Although, their averages were very close, Tucker was the go to guy on that team even though it was clear Aldridge had way more pro potential.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:48am #589669

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I thought Arenas was leading scorer as a soph and Jefferson was a freshman? Arenas does however need love because he was much better in NBA than at Arizona.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:48am #589677

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I thought Arenas was leading scorer as a soph and Jefferson was a freshman? Arenas does however need love because he was much better in NBA than at Arizona.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:48am #589251

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I thought Arenas was leading scorer as a soph and Jefferson was a freshman? Arenas does however need love because he was much better in NBA than at Arizona.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:51am #589675

BasterdInABasket
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LaMarcus Aldridge at Texas wasnt their top scorer
Zach Randolph was 4th in scoring his one year at MSU
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:51am #589682

BasterdInABasket
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LaMarcus Aldridge at Texas wasnt their top scorer
Zach Randolph was 4th in scoring his one year at MSU
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:51am #589257

BasterdInABasket
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LaMarcus Aldridge at Texas wasnt their top scorer
Zach Randolph was 4th in scoring his one year at MSU
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:53am #589681

JoeWolf1
That’s what I said…
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:53am #589688

JoeWolf1
That’s what I said…
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:53am #589263

JoeWolf1
That’s what I said…
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589690

BasterdInABasket
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i was looking up numbers of some other guys and didnt see you said LA too
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589698

BasterdInABasket
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i was looking up numbers of some other guys and didnt see you said LA too
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589271

BasterdInABasket
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i was looking up numbers of some other guys and didnt see you said LA too
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589687

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Carlos Boozer

played next to 2nd overall pick Jay Williams.
final year avgs:
Williams- 22.2ppg
Boozer- 18.2
max NBA avg: (21.1)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589694

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Carlos Boozer

played next to 2nd overall pick Jay Williams.
final year avgs:
Williams- 22.2ppg
Boozer- 18.2
max NBA avg: (21.1)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589268

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Carlos Boozer

played next to 2nd overall pick Jay Williams.
final year avgs:
Williams- 22.2ppg
Boozer- 18.2
max NBA avg: (21.1)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589693

JoeWolf1
Oh gotcha, I thought you were trying to correct me
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589700

JoeWolf1
Oh gotcha, I thought you were trying to correct me
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:55am #589274

JoeWolf1
Oh gotcha, I thought you were trying to correct me
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:58am #589702

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Deron Williams

played next to Luther Head and Dee Brown.
final year avgs:
Head- 15.9ppg
Williams- 12.5ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:58am #589709

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Deron Williams

played next to Luther Head and Dee Brown.
final year avgs:
Head- 15.9ppg
Williams- 12.5ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 10:58am #589284

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Deron Williams

played next to Luther Head and Dee Brown.
final year avgs:
Head- 15.9ppg
Williams- 12.5ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:02am #589705

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David Lee

played next to Anthony Roberson.
final year avgs:
Roberson- 18.7ppg
Lee- 13.6ppg
max NBA avg: (19.6)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:02am #589712

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David Lee

played next to Anthony Roberson.
final year avgs:
Roberson- 18.7ppg
Lee- 13.6ppg
max NBA avg: (19.6)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:02am #589286

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David Lee

played next to Anthony Roberson.
final year avgs:
Roberson- 18.7ppg
Lee- 13.6ppg
max NBA avg: (19.6)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:03am #589711

BasterdInABasket
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If we’re calling Carlos Boozer a #1 NBA scorer then Maggette too. He was the 4th scorer his senior year.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:03am #589718

BasterdInABasket
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If we’re calling Carlos Boozer a #1 NBA scorer then Maggette too. He was the 4th scorer his senior year.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:03am #589292

BasterdInABasket
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If we’re calling Carlos Boozer a #1 NBA scorer then Maggette too. He was the 4th scorer his senior year.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:03am #589708

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Gilbert definitely lead the team in scoring in 2000-01, and everyone knew he could get buckets. The reason he slipped to the second round were more due to attitude and size for the SG position, as people were not sure he could play PG. Still, he was 3rd in scoring as a freshman (though, scoring .1 and .2 less than two players in front of you does not necessarily make you less of an option), and lead them in scoring when they went to the title. I was not alone in being surprised Gilbert fell to the second round. I did not expect him to be at damn near 30 ppg during his prime, but he had lottery talent and I felt like he and Omar Cook could have gone about 15 spots higher than they did. 1 out of 2 I suppose.
Many players were second bananas at a time, Michael Jordan to James Worthy his freshman year, Hakeem Olajuwon to Clyde Drexler. Brandon Roy was to Nate Robinson. Nates three year averages at UW were 13, 13.2 and 16.4. Brandon’s first three years (Remember, Nate left as an early entry for the draft, when Brandon had a HUGE senior year) were 6.1, 12.9 (They were close) and 12.8 (When Nate was most definitely, the man).
Andre Iguodala was definitely never the main offensive option at Arizona, he was 4th behind Salim Stoudamire, Hassan Adams and Channing Frye (Though it was quite obvious that Andre was their best long term NBA prospect). Still, he has definitely been a go to guy for the 76ers. I know he may not count as a first option scorer, but Cuttino Mobley played in the shadows of Tyson Wheeler for most of his Rhode Island career, and had some very big scoring seasons. Zach Randolph only played one year at MSU, and Jason Richardson was definitely the go to guy. Also, while Russell Westbrook would not exactly be considered a "first option", he was behind Kevin Love and even Darren Collison when he declared for the NBA Draft. Sure there are others, but I would not count Gilbert Arenas in that group. He was the main scoring option for that Finals team, even if some other players might have had bigger profiles as upper classmen (Loren Woods, Michael Wright).
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:03am #589715

mikeyvthedon
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Gilbert definitely lead the team in scoring in 2000-01, and everyone knew he could get buckets. The reason he slipped to the second round were more due to attitude and size for the SG position, as people were not sure he could play PG. Still, he was 3rd in scoring as a freshman (though, scoring .1 and .2 less than two players in front of you does not necessarily make you less of an option), and lead them in scoring when they went to the title. I was not alone in being surprised Gilbert fell to the second round. I did not expect him to be at damn near 30 ppg during his prime, but he had lottery talent and I felt like he and Omar Cook could have gone about 15 spots higher than they did. 1 out of 2 I suppose.
Many players were second bananas at a time, Michael Jordan to James Worthy his freshman year, Hakeem Olajuwon to Clyde Drexler. Brandon Roy was to Nate Robinson. Nates three year averages at UW were 13, 13.2 and 16.4. Brandon’s first three years (Remember, Nate left as an early entry for the draft, when Brandon had a HUGE senior year) were 6.1, 12.9 (They were close) and 12.8 (When Nate was most definitely, the man).
Andre Iguodala was definitely never the main offensive option at Arizona, he was 4th behind Salim Stoudamire, Hassan Adams and Channing Frye (Though it was quite obvious that Andre was their best long term NBA prospect). Still, he has definitely been a go to guy for the 76ers. I know he may not count as a first option scorer, but Cuttino Mobley played in the shadows of Tyson Wheeler for most of his Rhode Island career, and had some very big scoring seasons. Zach Randolph only played one year at MSU, and Jason Richardson was definitely the go to guy. Also, while Russell Westbrook would not exactly be considered a "first option", he was behind Kevin Love and even Darren Collison when he declared for the NBA Draft. Sure there are others, but I would not count Gilbert Arenas in that group. He was the main scoring option for that Finals team, even if some other players might have had bigger profiles as upper classmen (Loren Woods, Michael Wright).
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:03am #589289

mikeyvthedon
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Gilbert definitely lead the team in scoring in 2000-01, and everyone knew he could get buckets. The reason he slipped to the second round were more due to attitude and size for the SG position, as people were not sure he could play PG. Still, he was 3rd in scoring as a freshman (though, scoring .1 and .2 less than two players in front of you does not necessarily make you less of an option), and lead them in scoring when they went to the title. I was not alone in being surprised Gilbert fell to the second round. I did not expect him to be at damn near 30 ppg during his prime, but he had lottery talent and I felt like he and Omar Cook could have gone about 15 spots higher than they did. 1 out of 2 I suppose.
Many players were second bananas at a time, Michael Jordan to James Worthy his freshman year, Hakeem Olajuwon to Clyde Drexler. Brandon Roy was to Nate Robinson. Nates three year averages at UW were 13, 13.2 and 16.4. Brandon’s first three years (Remember, Nate left as an early entry for the draft, when Brandon had a HUGE senior year) were 6.1, 12.9 (They were close) and 12.8 (When Nate was most definitely, the man).
Andre Iguodala was definitely never the main offensive option at Arizona, he was 4th behind Salim Stoudamire, Hassan Adams and Channing Frye (Though it was quite obvious that Andre was their best long term NBA prospect). Still, he has definitely been a go to guy for the 76ers. I know he may not count as a first option scorer, but Cuttino Mobley played in the shadows of Tyson Wheeler for most of his Rhode Island career, and had some very big scoring seasons. Zach Randolph only played one year at MSU, and Jason Richardson was definitely the go to guy. Also, while Russell Westbrook would not exactly be considered a "first option", he was behind Kevin Love and even Darren Collison when he declared for the NBA Draft. Sure there are others, but I would not count Gilbert Arenas in that group. He was the main scoring option for that Finals team, even if some other players might have had bigger profiles as upper classmen (Loren Woods, Michael Wright).
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:05am #589714

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Averaged 13.9 ppg in his lone year at USC (which was third behind Taj Gibson and Dwight Lewis)
Now DeRozan looks to take the scoring load as the 1st option for the Raptors
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:05am #589722

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Averaged 13.9 ppg in his lone year at USC (which was third behind Taj Gibson and Dwight Lewis)
Now DeRozan looks to take the scoring load as the 1st option for the Raptors
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:05am #589295

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Averaged 13.9 ppg in his lone year at USC (which was third behind Taj Gibson and Dwight Lewis)
Now DeRozan looks to take the scoring load as the 1st option for the Raptors
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:12am #589720

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Boozer definitely was the leading scorer on the Jazz 08′ team. he avg 21 and DWill avg 18.
yes, Maggette qualifies because at Duke he only avg 10ppg that one year and he led the Clips in scoring twice at 22ppg.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:12am #589728

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Boozer definitely was the leading scorer on the Jazz 08′ team. he avg 21 and DWill avg 18.
yes, Maggette qualifies because at Duke he only avg 10ppg that one year and he led the Clips in scoring twice at 22ppg.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:12am #589302

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Boozer definitely was the leading scorer on the Jazz 08′ team. he avg 21 and DWill avg 18.
yes, Maggette qualifies because at Duke he only avg 10ppg that one year and he led the Clips in scoring twice at 22ppg.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:15am #589729

rhbisp
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If you look @ just points, Derrick Rose qualifies b/c CDR was the leading scorer on that team
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:15am #589738

rhbisp
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If you look @ just points, Derrick Rose qualifies b/c CDR was the leading scorer on that team
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:15am #589311

rhbisp
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If you look @ just points, Derrick Rose qualifies b/c CDR was the leading scorer on that team
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:17am #589317

ilike.panochas
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I should have been more clear, what I meant was, he was considered the 3rd best player/prospect with Arizona (Guys like Jason Gardner, Michael Wright, Richard Jefferson and even Loren Woods were considered better player at the time) even though he led the team in scoring. He was overshadowed by a very talented squad. I definitely thought Jason Gardner would be the better pro than Arenas at the time.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:17am #589734

ilike.panochas
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I should have been more clear, what I meant was, he was considered the 3rd best player/prospect with Arizona (Guys like Jason Gardner, Michael Wright, Richard Jefferson and even Loren Woods were considered better player at the time) even though he led the team in scoring. He was overshadowed by a very talented squad. I definitely thought Jason Gardner would be the better pro than Arenas at the time.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:17am #589744

ilike.panochas
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I should have been more clear, what I meant was, he was considered the 3rd best player/prospect with Arizona (Guys like Jason Gardner, Michael Wright, Richard Jefferson and even Loren Woods were considered better player at the time) even though he led the team in scoring. He was overshadowed by a very talented squad. I definitely thought Jason Gardner would be the better pro than Arenas at the time.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:21am #589323

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Gotta show Sam some love…

played next to Bob Sura.
final year avgs:
Sura- 19.9ppg
Cassell- 18.3ppg
max NBA avg: (19.6)
note: in 97-98 Cassell avg 19.6 while Keith Van Horn avg 19.7…Cassell however played more games and had a higher point total so I would consider him option 1 that year. He also avg just under 20ppg for 3 years straight for the T-Wolves.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:21am #589740

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Gotta show Sam some love…

played next to Bob Sura.
final year avgs:
Sura- 19.9ppg
Cassell- 18.3ppg
max NBA avg: (19.6)
note: in 97-98 Cassell avg 19.6 while Keith Van Horn avg 19.7…Cassell however played more games and had a higher point total so I would consider him option 1 that year. He also avg just under 20ppg for 3 years straight for the T-Wolves.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:21am #589750

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Gotta show Sam some love…

played next to Bob Sura.
final year avgs:
Sura- 19.9ppg
Cassell- 18.3ppg
max NBA avg: (19.6)
note: in 97-98 Cassell avg 19.6 while Keith Van Horn avg 19.7…Cassell however played more games and had a higher point total so I would consider him option 1 that year. He also avg just under 20ppg for 3 years straight for the T-Wolves.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:23am #589326

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yes, Rose would definitely qualify….he was the best player on the team but CDR was leading scorer…good one.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:23am #589743

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yes, Rose would definitely qualify….he was the best player on the team but CDR was leading scorer…good one.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:23am #589753

surve
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yes, Rose would definitely qualify….he was the best player on the team but CDR was leading scorer…good one.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:28am #589334

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Latrell Sprewell

played next to James "Hollywood" Robinson.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.4ppg
Sprewell- 17.8ppg
max NBA avg: (24.2)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:28am #589751

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Latrell Sprewell

played next to James "Hollywood" Robinson.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.4ppg
Sprewell- 17.8ppg
max NBA avg: (24.2)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:28am #589762

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Latrell Sprewell

played next to James "Hollywood" Robinson.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.4ppg
Sprewell- 17.8ppg
max NBA avg: (24.2)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:32am #589346

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ok, I am gonna make an exception here for an exceptional player….

played next to James "Hollywood" Robinson and Latrell Sprewell.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.4ppg
Sprewell- 17.8ppg
Horry- 15.8ppg
max NBA avg: (12ppg)
Horry may not have been a #1 scoring option…but he was a go-to guy in the NBA, arguably one of the best go-to/clutch performers in the HISTORY of the game.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:32am #589763

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ok, I am gonna make an exception here for an exceptional player….

played next to James "Hollywood" Robinson and Latrell Sprewell.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.4ppg
Sprewell- 17.8ppg
Horry- 15.8ppg
max NBA avg: (12ppg)
Horry may not have been a #1 scoring option…but he was a go-to guy in the NBA, arguably one of the best go-to/clutch performers in the HISTORY of the game.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:32am #589774

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ok, I am gonna make an exception here for an exceptional player….

played next to James "Hollywood" Robinson and Latrell Sprewell.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.4ppg
Sprewell- 17.8ppg
Horry- 15.8ppg
max NBA avg: (12ppg)
Horry may not have been a #1 scoring option…but he was a go-to guy in the NBA, arguably one of the best go-to/clutch performers in the HISTORY of the game.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:38am #589352

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doesnt really count because his last year at Michigan he was the #1 option on offense, but his freshman year, Jalen Rose led the team in scoring…just wanted to put that out there.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:38am #589770

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doesnt really count because his last year at Michigan he was the #1 option on offense, but his freshman year, Jalen Rose led the team in scoring…just wanted to put that out there.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:38am #589780

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doesnt really count because his last year at Michigan he was the #1 option on offense, but his freshman year, Jalen Rose led the team in scoring…just wanted to put that out there.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:39am #589355

meirmeir13
Well hes not the first option now but the guy averaged only 12 points his final year in college. Compared to what hes doing now big jump.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:39am #589773

meirmeir13
Well hes not the first option now but the guy averaged only 12 points his final year in college. Compared to what hes doing now big jump.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:39am #589783

meirmeir13
Well hes not the first option now but the guy averaged only 12 points his final year in college. Compared to what hes doing now big jump.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:40am #589358

SubZero
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Andre Iguodala played with Stoudemire and Frye? Balls man, how do I not remember that? I’m too young for my own good
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:40am #589776

SubZero
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Andre Iguodala played with Stoudemire and Frye? Balls man, how do I not remember that? I’m too young for my own good
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:40am #589786

SubZero
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Andre Iguodala played with Stoudemire and Frye? Balls man, how do I not remember that? I’m too young for my own good
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:48am #589376

akhan786
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@BasterdinaBasket Maggette didn’t play 4 years he was a one and done. And lol I would not want to be a fan of the team that has Boozer as its number one option.
Haha I get what you mean though he did lead the Jazz in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:48am #589794

akhan786
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@BasterdinaBasket Maggette didn’t play 4 years he was a one and done. And lol I would not want to be a fan of the team that has Boozer as its number one option.
Haha I get what you mean though he did lead the Jazz in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:48am #589804

akhan786
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@BasterdinaBasket Maggette didn’t play 4 years he was a one and done. And lol I would not want to be a fan of the team that has Boozer as its number one option.
Haha I get what you mean though he did lead the Jazz in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:50am #589385

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Derrick Coleman

played next to Rony Seikaly, Sherman Douglas, and Billy Owens (Douglas and Owens led the team in scoring but Coleman never did).
final year avgs:
Owens- 18.2ppg
Coleman- 17.9ppg
max NBA avg: (20.5) led Nets in scoring twice
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:50am #589803

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Derrick Coleman

played next to Rony Seikaly, Sherman Douglas, and Billy Owens (Douglas and Owens led the team in scoring but Coleman never did).
final year avgs:
Owens- 18.2ppg
Coleman- 17.9ppg
max NBA avg: (20.5) led Nets in scoring twice
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 11:50am #589813

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Derrick Coleman

played next to Rony Seikaly, Sherman Douglas, and Billy Owens (Douglas and Owens led the team in scoring but Coleman never did).
final year avgs:
Owens- 18.2ppg
Coleman- 17.9ppg
max NBA avg: (20.5) led Nets in scoring twice
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:21pm #589827

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I will give you a +1 because eventhough he doesnt qualify technically…Russ was not even 2nd option IIRC at UCLA and when Durant went out with injury this year, he carried the team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:21pm #589839

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I will give you a +1 because eventhough he doesnt qualify technically…Russ was not even 2nd option IIRC at UCLA and when Durant went out with injury this year, he carried the team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:21pm #589408

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I will give you a +1 because eventhough he doesnt qualify technically…Russ was not even 2nd option IIRC at UCLA and when Durant went out with injury this year, he carried the team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:32pm #589835

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Chris Paul

played next to Eric Williams.
final year avgs:
Williams- 16.1ppg
Paul- 15.3ppg
max NBA avg: (22.8)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:32pm #589848

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Chris Paul

played next to Eric Williams.
final year avgs:
Williams- 16.1ppg
Paul- 15.3ppg
max NBA avg: (22.8)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:32pm #589417

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Chris Paul

played next to Eric Williams.
final year avgs:
Williams- 16.1ppg
Paul- 15.3ppg
max NBA avg: (22.8)
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:37pm #589844

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4th leading scorer on Alabama’s team his lone year with the squad
final year avg: 9.8ppg
max NBA avg 19.4ppg led Bobcats in scoring one year
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:37pm #589857

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4th leading scorer on Alabama’s team his lone year with the squad
final year avg: 9.8ppg
max NBA avg 19.4ppg led Bobcats in scoring one year
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:37pm #589426

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4th leading scorer on Alabama’s team his lone year with the squad
final year avg: 9.8ppg
max NBA avg 19.4ppg led Bobcats in scoring one year
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:43pm #589847

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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:48pm #589849

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Mike Bibby

played next to Michael Dickerson.
final year avgs:
Dickerson- 18ppg
Bibby- 17.2ppg
max NBA avg: (21.1) led Kings in scoring
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:48pm #589863

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Mike Bibby

played next to Michael Dickerson.
final year avgs:
Dickerson- 18ppg
Bibby- 17.2ppg
max NBA avg: (21.1) led Kings in scoring
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:48pm #589432

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Mike Bibby

played next to Michael Dickerson.
final year avgs:
Dickerson- 18ppg
Bibby- 17.2ppg
max NBA avg: (21.1) led Kings in scoring
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 12:54pm #589852

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Jason Kidd

played next to Lamond Murray.
final year avgs:
Murray- 24.3ppg
Kidd- 16.7ppg
max NBA avg: (18.7) led the Nets in scoring
note: Kidd avg 16.9 in 99′ for the Suns while Gugliotta avg 17.0, Gugs played in less games, Kidd led the team in total points that year.
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Jason Kidd

played next to Lamond Murray.
final year avgs:
Murray- 24.3ppg
Kidd- 16.7ppg
max NBA avg: (18.7) led the Nets in scoring
note: Kidd avg 16.9 in 99′ for the Suns while Gugliotta avg 17.0, Gugs played in less games, Kidd led the team in total points that year.
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Jason Kidd

played next to Lamond Murray.
final year avgs:
Murray- 24.3ppg
Kidd- 16.7ppg
max NBA avg: (18.7) led the Nets in scoring
note: Kidd avg 16.9 in 99′ for the Suns while Gugliotta avg 17.0, Gugs played in less games, Kidd led the team in total points that year.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:00pm #589855

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Hakeem Olajuwon

played next to Michael Young.
final year avgs:
Young- 19.8ppg
Olajuwon- 16.8ppg
max NBA avg: (27.8)
interesting fact: Hakeem and Clyde Drexler…two of the NBA’s greatest players each played 3 years at Houston…2 years of which were together. Neither of them ever led the team in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:00pm #589869

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Hakeem Olajuwon

played next to Michael Young.
final year avgs:
Young- 19.8ppg
Olajuwon- 16.8ppg
max NBA avg: (27.8)
interesting fact: Hakeem and Clyde Drexler…two of the NBA’s greatest players each played 3 years at Houston…2 years of which were together. Neither of them ever led the team in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:00pm #589438

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Hakeem Olajuwon

played next to Michael Young.
final year avgs:
Young- 19.8ppg
Olajuwon- 16.8ppg
max NBA avg: (27.8)
interesting fact: Hakeem and Clyde Drexler…two of the NBA’s greatest players each played 3 years at Houston…2 years of which were together. Neither of them ever led the team in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:03pm #589858

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Clyde Drexler

played next to Michael Young.
final year avgs:
Young- 17.3ppg
Drexler- 15.9ppg
max NBA avg: (27.2)
note: see Hakeem
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:03pm #589872

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Clyde Drexler

played next to Michael Young.
final year avgs:
Young- 17.3ppg
Drexler- 15.9ppg
max NBA avg: (27.2)
note: see Hakeem
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:03pm #589441

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Clyde Drexler

played next to Michael Young.
final year avgs:
Young- 17.3ppg
Drexler- 15.9ppg
max NBA avg: (27.2)
note: see Hakeem
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:12pm #589864

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isnt that wild? Michael Young (4 years total at Houston) played 3 years with Drexler and 3 years with Hakeem and they never led the team in scoring but he led the team twice! Thats some bragging rights for your azz!
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:12pm #589877

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isnt that wild? Michael Young (4 years total at Houston) played 3 years with Drexler and 3 years with Hakeem and they never led the team in scoring but he led the team twice! Thats some bragging rights for your azz!
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:12pm #589447

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isnt that wild? Michael Young (4 years total at Houston) played 3 years with Drexler and 3 years with Hakeem and they never led the team in scoring but he led the team twice! Thats some bragging rights for your azz!
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:26pm #589878

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I wasn’t even born when the Phi Slama Jama were together…but damn that still blows my mind that Drexler and Olajuwon were on the same team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:26pm #589889

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I wasn’t even born when the Phi Slama Jama were together…but damn that still blows my mind that Drexler and Olajuwon were on the same team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:26pm #589458

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I wasn’t even born when the Phi Slama Jama were together…but damn that still blows my mind that Drexler and Olajuwon were on the same team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:33pm #589886

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whoever negged the Drexler post will you please explain why? he played for 3 years and never led the Cougars in scoring? or are you just hating on the Glyde???
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:33pm #589898

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whoever negged the Drexler post will you please explain why? he played for 3 years and never led the Cougars in scoring? or are you just hating on the Glyde???
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:33pm #589467

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whoever negged the Drexler post will you please explain why? he played for 3 years and never led the Cougars in scoring? or are you just hating on the Glyde???
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:37pm #589890

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I remember them well, but even then, and I was young….I dont think anyone thought those guys would be special, let alone both of them. I really loved the Glyde. It was Phi Slamma Jamma and Doctors of Dunk (Louisville) led by Dr. Dunkenstein Darrell Griffith.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:37pm #589901

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I remember them well, but even then, and I was young….I dont think anyone thought those guys would be special, let alone both of them. I really loved the Glyde. It was Phi Slamma Jamma and Doctors of Dunk (Louisville) led by Dr. Dunkenstein Darrell Griffith.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 1:37pm #589470

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I remember them well, but even then, and I was young….I dont think anyone thought those guys would be special, let alone both of them. I really loved the Glyde. It was Phi Slamma Jamma and Doctors of Dunk (Louisville) led by Dr. Dunkenstein Darrell Griffith.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 3:46pm #589967

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I wasn’t even born when Kobe, AI, Ray Allen, and Marcus Camby were drafted. I have been alive for every single one of Kobe’s pro games.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 3:46pm #589980

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I wasn’t even born when Kobe, AI, Ray Allen, and Marcus Camby were drafted. I have been alive for every single one of Kobe’s pro games.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 3:46pm #589547

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I wasn’t even born when Kobe, AI, Ray Allen, and Marcus Camby were drafted. I have been alive for every single one of Kobe’s pro games.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 4:18pm #589568

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i said arenas was the best pro prosepct coming out fo the pac the year he entered the draft and he should have gone lotto. Arizona had a handful of good players who shared the spotlight, but arenas wasnt neccessarily second to any of them.
Also i dont think you can include derrick rose becasue even though he was second in scoring behind cdr, everyone knew it was his team and he had the ball all he wanted. 1st option doesnt neccesarily mean leading scorer becasue lots of pg’s are the teams first option and run the show but dont lead in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 4:18pm #589988

llperez
i said arenas was the best pro prosepct coming out fo the pac the year he entered the draft and he should have gone lotto. Arizona had a handful of good players who shared the spotlight, but arenas wasnt neccessarily second to any of them.
Also i dont think you can include derrick rose becasue even though he was second in scoring behind cdr, everyone knew it was his team and he had the ball all he wanted. 1st option doesnt neccesarily mean leading scorer becasue lots of pg’s are the teams first option and run the show but dont lead in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 4:18pm #590001

llperez
i said arenas was the best pro prosepct coming out fo the pac the year he entered the draft and he should have gone lotto. Arizona had a handful of good players who shared the spotlight, but arenas wasnt neccessarily second to any of them.
Also i dont think you can include derrick rose becasue even though he was second in scoring behind cdr, everyone knew it was his team and he had the ball all he wanted. 1st option doesnt neccesarily mean leading scorer becasue lots of pg’s are the teams first option and run the show but dont lead in scoring.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:03pm #589595

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no, I think you have to include anyone, including Rose who was not 1st option because here is the thing…its not about who is the best player, its about what works best for the team. If Rose wanted to take every shot he could have and he couldve scored what he wanted. CDR was already a proven scorer so the team chemistry worked better with Rose complimenting his scoring. the college game is very different, I doubt Memphis couldve gotten very far with Rose avg 25ppg…but in the pros, its a different story.
Also, sometimes the 1st option guy may not be the guy you want to take the last shot necessarily…usually, thats the guy who is best at getting his own shot…which probably was Rose.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:03pm #590015

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no, I think you have to include anyone, including Rose who was not 1st option because here is the thing…its not about who is the best player, its about what works best for the team. If Rose wanted to take every shot he could have and he couldve scored what he wanted. CDR was already a proven scorer so the team chemistry worked better with Rose complimenting his scoring. the college game is very different, I doubt Memphis couldve gotten very far with Rose avg 25ppg…but in the pros, its a different story.
Also, sometimes the 1st option guy may not be the guy you want to take the last shot necessarily…usually, thats the guy who is best at getting his own shot…which probably was Rose.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:03pm #590028

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no, I think you have to include anyone, including Rose who was not 1st option because here is the thing…its not about who is the best player, its about what works best for the team. If Rose wanted to take every shot he could have and he couldve scored what he wanted. CDR was already a proven scorer so the team chemistry worked better with Rose complimenting his scoring. the college game is very different, I doubt Memphis couldve gotten very far with Rose avg 25ppg…but in the pros, its a different story.
Also, sometimes the 1st option guy may not be the guy you want to take the last shot necessarily…usually, thats the guy who is best at getting his own shot…which probably was Rose.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:32pm #589614

llperez
maybe our defenition of first option is different. To me first option is the guy who has the ball makes the decisions and has the most freedom to choose what play to make down the court routinely. For memphis, that was rose not cdr.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:32pm #590036

llperez
maybe our defenition of first option is different. To me first option is the guy who has the ball makes the decisions and has the most freedom to choose what play to make down the court routinely. For memphis, that was rose not cdr.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:32pm #590049

llperez
maybe our defenition of first option is different. To me first option is the guy who has the ball makes the decisions and has the most freedom to choose what play to make down the court routinely. For memphis, that was rose not cdr.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:35pm #589623

llperez
actually i take it back, cdr was arguably the first option especially early on. But by the end of the year, it was roses team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:35pm #590045

llperez
actually i take it back, cdr was arguably the first option especially early on. But by the end of the year, it was roses team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 5:35pm #590058

llperez
actually i take it back, cdr was arguably the first option especially early on. But by the end of the year, it was roses team.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:25pm #590092

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I would say Ty Lawson was of course a 2nd option, maybe even a 3rd to Psycho T and Wayne Ellington but i then find it ironic that they both have career scoring averages of 10.2. But with Lawson the man in Denver now, and Hansborough just a role player, I think its safe to say that Lawson will have this stat in a year, tops.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:25pm #590106

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I would say Ty Lawson was of course a 2nd option, maybe even a 3rd to Psycho T and Wayne Ellington but i then find it ironic that they both have career scoring averages of 10.2. But with Lawson the man in Denver now, and Hansborough just a role player, I think its safe to say that Lawson will have this stat in a year, tops.
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Posted on: Mon, 08/15/2011 - 6:25pm #589671

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I would say Ty Lawson was of course a 2nd option, maybe even a 3rd to Psycho T and Wayne Ellington but i then find it ironic that they both have career scoring averages of 10.2. But with Lawson the man in Denver now, and Hansborough just a role player, I think its safe to say that Lawson will have this stat in a year, tops.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:09am #590159

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yes…basically what we are talking about are roles here. how the system was set up. Memphis system was set up for CDR to be the primary offensive weapon because he had just came off a soph season avg just under 16ppg. as it got down to the end of the year, Rose was the man but either of them could be considered go-to guys. We are not really talking about go-to guys or the teams best player, but the one who is tasked with having the scoring load. the first thing everyone would say had CDR gotten injured would be that Memphis is without their leading scorer.
I see your point, not arguing that. Just saying that this post is about roles as scorers.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:09am #590173

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yes…basically what we are talking about are roles here. how the system was set up. Memphis system was set up for CDR to be the primary offensive weapon because he had just came off a soph season avg just under 16ppg. as it got down to the end of the year, Rose was the man but either of them could be considered go-to guys. We are not really talking about go-to guys or the teams best player, but the one who is tasked with having the scoring load. the first thing everyone would say had CDR gotten injured would be that Memphis is without their leading scorer.
I see your point, not arguing that. Just saying that this post is about roles as scorers.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:09am #589736

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yes…basically what we are talking about are roles here. how the system was set up. Memphis system was set up for CDR to be the primary offensive weapon because he had just came off a soph season avg just under 16ppg. as it got down to the end of the year, Rose was the man but either of them could be considered go-to guys. We are not really talking about go-to guys or the teams best player, but the one who is tasked with having the scoring load. the first thing everyone would say had CDR gotten injured would be that Memphis is without their leading scorer.
I see your point, not arguing that. Just saying that this post is about roles as scorers.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:14am #590162

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Jeff Hornacek

played next to Jeff Grayer.
final year avgs:
Grayer- 20.7ppg
Hornacek- 13.7ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1) led Suns in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:14am #590176

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Jeff Hornacek

played next to Jeff Grayer.
final year avgs:
Grayer- 20.7ppg
Hornacek- 13.7ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1) led Suns in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:14am #589739

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Jeff Hornacek

played next to Jeff Grayer.
final year avgs:
Grayer- 20.7ppg
Hornacek- 13.7ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1) led Suns in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:25am #590168

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Loy Vaught

played next to Rumeal Robinson and Terry Mills.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.2ppg
Mills- 18.1ppg
Vaught- 15.5ppg
max NBA avg: (17.5) led Clips in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:25am #590182

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Loy Vaught

played next to Rumeal Robinson and Terry Mills.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.2ppg
Mills- 18.1ppg
Vaught- 15.5ppg
max NBA avg: (17.5) led Clips in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:25am #589745

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Loy Vaught

played next to Rumeal Robinson and Terry Mills.
final year avgs:
Robinson- 19.2ppg
Mills- 18.1ppg
Vaught- 15.5ppg
max NBA avg: (17.5) led Clips in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:50am #590180

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just showing him some love…he doesnt technically qualify because his last year he led team in scoring, but….the year before McKie led the team in scoring.
1993:
McKie- 20.6ppg (A10 Player of the Year)
Jones- 17ppg
1994:
Jones- 19.2ppg (A10 Player of the Year)
McKie- 18.8ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1) led Charlotte Hornets in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:50am #590194

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just showing him some love…he doesnt technically qualify because his last year he led team in scoring, but….the year before McKie led the team in scoring.
1993:
McKie- 20.6ppg (A10 Player of the Year)
Jones- 17ppg
1994:
Jones- 19.2ppg (A10 Player of the Year)
McKie- 18.8ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1) led Charlotte Hornets in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:50am #589759

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just showing him some love…he doesnt technically qualify because his last year he led team in scoring, but….the year before McKie led the team in scoring.
1993:
McKie- 20.6ppg (A10 Player of the Year)
Jones- 17ppg
1994:
Jones- 19.2ppg (A10 Player of the Year)
McKie- 18.8ppg
max NBA avg: (20.1) led Charlotte Hornets in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:51am #590183

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Charles Barkley at Auburn. Played with Chuck Person at Auburn. Averaged 15.1 PPG in his last season while Person led the team with a 19.1 average. In the NBA Barkley averaged more than 25 PPG in five seperate seasons with a career high of 28.3 in 1988. The other Chuck had a nice career in the league as well, with a ROY award in 1987, averaging 14.7 PPG over a 943 game career and finding a niche as a very good shooter from behind the arc.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:51am #590197

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Charles Barkley at Auburn. Played with Chuck Person at Auburn. Averaged 15.1 PPG in his last season while Person led the team with a 19.1 average. In the NBA Barkley averaged more than 25 PPG in five seperate seasons with a career high of 28.3 in 1988. The other Chuck had a nice career in the league as well, with a ROY award in 1987, averaging 14.7 PPG over a 943 game career and finding a niche as a very good shooter from behind the arc.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:51am #589761

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Charles Barkley at Auburn. Played with Chuck Person at Auburn. Averaged 15.1 PPG in his last season while Person led the team with a 19.1 average. In the NBA Barkley averaged more than 25 PPG in five seperate seasons with a career high of 28.3 in 1988. The other Chuck had a nice career in the league as well, with a ROY award in 1987, averaging 14.7 PPG over a 943 game career and finding a niche as a very good shooter from behind the arc.
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:55am #590189

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Rasheed Wallace

played next to Jerry Stackhouse.
final year avgs:
Stackhouse- 19.2ppg
Wallace- 16.6ppg
max NBA avg: (19.3) led Blazers in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:55am #590203

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Rasheed Wallace

played next to Jerry Stackhouse.
final year avgs:
Stackhouse- 19.2ppg
Wallace- 16.6ppg
max NBA avg: (19.3) led Blazers in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 2:55am #589767

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Rasheed Wallace

played next to Jerry Stackhouse.
final year avgs:
Stackhouse- 19.2ppg
Wallace- 16.6ppg
max NBA avg: (19.3) led Blazers in scoring
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 5:45am #589831

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This is an interesting topic. I didn’t realize some of these guys were secondary options in college
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 5:45am #590253

JNixon
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This is an interesting topic. I didn’t realize some of these guys were secondary options in college
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Posted on: Tue, 08/16/2011 - 5:45am #590268

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This is an interesting topic. I didn’t realize some of these guys were secondary options in college
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