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  • #47937
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    Ghost01
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    Haha. Can someone please post it? I know I should pay 37 cents a month or whatever, but I think it would be a good thing to discuss.

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  • #761507
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    Ghost01
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    What I do have access to, is his mock lottery where he has the Bobcats picking Noel. Now regardless of how good you think he is, or what you make of his injury, that is just a beyond terrible fit. They need to start bringing in players who can put the ball in the bucket and they have way too many bigs with little to no offensive skill already. Just think B-Mac is a much better fit for them. If they got him, and continued to suck, and got Wiggins next year (Huge “if” of course), then i think with B-Mac, Wiggins, and MKG, they would have a perfect set of versatile, athletic wings that are exactly what you need in the NBA in this day in age. Just my opinion though.

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      It’s less than $3 per month for two year access.

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    BasterdInABasket
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    The Final Four is over and the Louisville Cardinals are the national champions. With their victory, the college basketball season has come to an end. Likewise, the scouting of competitive games also has ended, and thus we’re ready to reveal our first full mock draft of 2013.

    All year we have kept tabs on the draft stock of players using our Big Board and the Top 100 list. Both tools are a reflection of the consensus of NBA scouts and GMs about a player’s relative value in the draft.

    A mock draft is a different animal altogether. In a mock draft we don’t tell you where a player should go, but rather, what each team in the draft would likely do with their pick. At this point very little is set in stone, as we are still in the NBA regular season. Expect this mock draft to fluctuate greatly over the course of the next two months.

    Draft order will change, as will the stock of a number of players thanks to draft camps in Portsmouth, Va., and Chicago in the coming month. We still won’t know which underclassmen officially declare for the draft until the April 28 deadline. We won’t even be sure of the non-lottery draft order until the regular season ends. Nor will we know the results of the lottery draft order until the NBA draft lottery on May 21. Thus, the mock draft order begins with the lottery teams owning the greatest possibility of winning the No. 1 pick (by percentage), then followed by the remaining teams in reverse order of current standings.

    If you want to check out what your team would do with the No. 1 pick, check out our Lottery Mock Draft Machine that features more than 2,000 scenarios.

    Here’s my initial stab at a full first-round mock draft for 2013 (assuming every eligible prospect who has yet to state their intentions on the draft declares), after accounting for team needs.

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    Nerlens Noel

    Charlotte Bobcats (25 percent chance to win lottery )

    COLLEGE: Kentucky

    AGE: 18

    HT: 6-11

    WT: 215

    POS: C
    Analysis: The Bobcats need help everywhere. With the possible exception of small forward (where last year’s No. 2 pick Michael Kidd-Gilchrist is holding down the fort), Charlotte doesn’t really have an A-list player on its roster. The Bobcats already have a young, athletic project in Bismack Biyombo, but every scout feels that Noel has much more potential than Biyombo and most GMs feel Noel has the most upside of any player in the draft. Noel’s ACL injury is an obvious red flag, but even that could turn into a blessing. If the Bobcats have to sit Noel for much of the season, they’ll likely finish with the best chance of winning the lottery in 2014. With Andrew Wiggins and a stellar high school class of 2014 coming up, it might be worth the wait.

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    Marcus Smart

    Orlando Magic (19.9)

    COLLEGE: Oklahoma St.

    AGE: 19

    HT: 6-4

    WT: 225

    POS: PG

    Analysis: The Orlando Magic have promising young players at the 3, 4 and 5. While they could certainly upgrade there (and might if Noel is available), I expect them to take a backcourt player at No. 2. Jameer Nelson is 31 and starting to slow down. Adding a dominant player like Smart would upgrade the position immensely. While Smart has his weaknesses (his jump shot is shaky and he needs to tighten up his handle), he’s strong, has a great motor and toughness, is a beast defensively and brings the leadership a young rudderless team like the Magic desperately needs.

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    Ben McLemore

    Phoenix Suns (15.6)

    COLLEGE: Kansas

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-5

    WT: 195

    POS: SG

    Analysis: The Phoenix Suns shot 32 percent on 3-pointers this season and desperately need to improve. Their starting 2-guards, Shannon Brown and Wesley Johnson, both struggled from 3. Adding McLemore makes a lot of sense. He’s one of the two or three best pure shooters in the draft and has great length and athleticism at his position. He can be a bit of a wallflower, but when he gets going he’s as good as anyone in the draft.

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    Otto Porter

    Cleveland Cavaliers (11.9)

    COLLEGE: Georgetown

    AGE: 19

    HT: 6-8

    WT: 200

    POS: SF

    Analysis: The Cavaliers have dynamic scorers in both backcourt positions in Kyrie Irving and Dion Waiters. Their frontcourt is also virtually set with Tristan Thompson, Anderson Varejao and Tyler Zeller. Their biggest hole is at the 3, and Porter looks like the perfect complementary piece. He’s a jack of all trades, doesn’t need the ball in his hands to be effective and is a team player. I can’t think of a better fit for Porter or the Cavs.

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    Victor Oladipo

    Detroit Pistons (8.8)

    COLLEGE: Indiana

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-5

    WT: 214

    POS: SG

    Analysis: The Pistons’ biggest need is at small forward. Since shipping Tayshaun Prince off to Memphis, they haven’t really had anyone fill his spot. However, I think Oladipo is a better fit for Detroit. Rodney Stuckey has worn out his welcome in Detroit and Oladipo is the type of player that thrived with the Pistons when President of Basketball Operations Joe Dumars was still suiting up. Olapido is an elite defender, an explosive athlete and a rapidly improving offensive player. They could settle on a player like Shabazz Muhammad here, but I think Oladipo is the best player on the board for them.

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    Trey Burke

    New Orleans Hornets (5.5)

    COLLEGE: Michigan

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-1

    WT: 175

    POS: PG

    Analysis: The Hornets have interesting young players at every position right now. Their biggest need is probably at small forward, though Al-Farouq Aminu has started to show some promise this year. Clearly the Hornets have a very solid point guard in Greivis Vasquez. However, Burke gives them a completely different look and would be a nice complement to Vasquez at the point. He might be a bit undersized, but his toughness, all-around game, mistake-free basketball and winning attitude should be a great fit in New Orleans.

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    Shabazz Muhammad

    Sacramento Kings (5.4)

    COLLEGE: UCLA

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-6

    WT: 225

    POS: SF

    Analysis: The Kings’ biggest hole is at small forward, where they continue to feel the sting from the disastrous John Salmons trade from a couple years ago. Salmons is a shell of himself and the Kings are desperately in need of an upgrade. While Muhammad has been a slight disappointment as a freshman, he’s tough, knows how to score and brings a strong motor to the table. I’m not sure if there will be enough shots for Muhammad with DeMarcus Cousins, Tyreke Evans, Isaiah Thomas and Marcus Thornton, but I assume the Kings, under new management whether in Sacramento or Seattle, will start to clean house.

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    Alex Len

    Oklahoma City Thunder via Toronto Raptors (2.2)

    COLLEGE: Maryland

    AGE: 19

    HT: 7-1

    WT: 225

    POS: C

    Analysis: The Thunder get this pick from the Raptors (which the Rockets received as part of the Kyle Lowry trade only to move it onto OKC as part of the James Harden deal) as long as the Raptors aren’t picking in the top three. Oklahoma City needs to find a long-term replacement for Harden at the 2 and a long-term backup for Kendrick Perkins at the 5. Len seems like great value here. He’s one of the two or three biggest players in the draft, has a decent offensive game and can rebound and block shots. It really feels like he’s scratching the surface. The Thunder can afford to bring him along slowly and hope he develops.

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    Anthony Bennett

    Washington Wizards (2.3)

    COLLEGE: UNLV

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-8

    WT: 240

    POS: PF

    Analysis: The Wizards would have to be thrilled if they can land Bennett this late in the draft. Some teams will look at him as high as No. 2. Not only is Bennett the best player left on the board, but he also fits a need for Washington at the 4. Emeka Okafor has been solid there, but he’s not the long-term answer. And at this point it doesn’t look like young players like Jan Vesely or Kevin Seraphin are, either. Bennett’s NBA body combined with his ability to score anywhere on the floor should give the Wizards another big boost next year.

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    Gary Harris

    Minnesota Timberwolves (1.1)

    COLLEGE: Michigan St.

    AGE: 18

    HT: 6-4

    WT: 210

    POS: SG

    Analysis: I think it’s pretty likely that Harris decides to stay in college another year and undergo shoulder surgery. However, if he does end up declaring, he’s a very good fit for a Timberwolves team that still is searching for a long-term solution at shooting guard. The team is shooting just 30 percent from beyond the arc this year and getting a player like Harris who can really knock down shots is a priority.

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    Cody Zeller

    Philadelphia 76ers (0.8)

    COLLEGE: Indiana

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-11

    WT: 210

    POS: C

    Analysis: At the start of the season there was talk of Zeller being the No. 1 pick. However, he didn’t improve as much as scouts expected him to this season and his stock has slid a bit. He’d be a nice fit in Philly, however. With the exception of Spencer Hawes, the Sixers just don’t have a lot of size. While I don’t think Zeller is worthy of a top-five pick anymore, he’s a good value here.

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    Mitch McGary

    Portland Trail Blazers (0.7)

    COLLEGE: Michigan

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-10

    WT: 250

    POS: PF

    Analysis: McGary mania is in full swing after a terrific run in the NCAA tourney, but NBA scouts still are getting their arms around his draft stock. They’ve really only been scouting this Mitch McGary for about eight games. However, on the surface, it appears that McGary has a lot of promise. He’s got an incredible motor, is a good athlete, has great hands, rebounds, blocks shots and has shown a midrange game. It’s possible he’s a one-hit wonder, but I think more and more teams believe he’s the same kid that ranked as one of the top five players in the country after his junior year of high school. He could be a great replacement for J.J. Hickson should he bolt in free agency this summer.

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    Michael Carter-Williams

    Dallas Mavericks (0.6)

    COLLEGE: Syracuse

    AGE: 21

    HT: 6-5

    WT: 175

    POS: PG

    Analysis: The Mavs have been riding Darren Collison all season at the point and there’s a chance they re-sign him as a restricted free agent this summer. Whether they do or don’t, Carter-Williams seems like a safe play. When he’s good, he looks like a top-five pick. When he’s off, he doesn’t look like a first-rounder. He’s a good passer with great size for his position and a very smooth athlete. He lacks a jump shot and needs to get stronger, but there’s so much potential there, the Mavs could swing for the fences with him at No. 13.

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    Mason Plumlee

    Phoenix Suns via Los Angeles Lakers (0.5)

    COLLEGE: Duke

    AGE: 23

    HT: 6-10

    WT: 230

    POS: PF

    Analysis: The Suns will get this pick via the Lakers as part of the Steve Nash trade if L.A. ends up in the lottery. If the Suns go with a shooter with their first pick, don’t be surprised if they try to add some size with their second one. Plumlee’s combination of athleticism and size might make the most sense since, while he isn’t exactly tough, he’s tougher than most of the finesse young bigs on the roster.

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    Glenn Robinson III

    Milwaukee Bucks

    COLLEGE: Michigan

    AGE: 19

    HT: 6-6

    WT: 210

    POS: SF

    Analysis: The Bucks don’t have a lot going for them right now at the small forward position — especially since sending Tobias Harris out of town in the J.J. Redick deal. Robinson would give them yet another long, athletic forward who can fly up and down the floor. The difference with Robinson? He can shoot, and let’s face it, there’s some karma at play here, too. The Bucks drafted Robinson III’s father with the No. 1 pick in 1994. Keep it in the family.

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    Kelly Olynyk

    Boston Celtics

    COLLEGE: Gonzaga

    AGE: 21

    HT: 7-0

    WT: 238

    POS: C

    Analysis: The Celtics definitely need size, and Olynyk is the sort of stretch big man that the team has liked in the past. His low-post game is still so-so, but he’s a very difficult matchup on the high post. His ability to put the ball on the floor and get to the basket is special for a player his size. He could be a nice complement, in the long run, with Jared Sullinger.

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    C.J. McCollum

    Utah Jazz

    COLLEGE: Lehigh

    AGE: 21

    HT: 6-3

    WT: 190

    POS: PG

    Analysis: The Jazz have been in the market for a point guard for a while and had their sights set on both Jimmer Fredette and Damian Lillard in the last two drafts only to lose them both. I’m not sure if McCollum is a true point guard, but I’m also not sure the Jazz need one as both Gordon Hayward and Alec Burks can handle the ball. What they really want is another shooter, and McCollum shot 51 percent from 3-point range before going down with a season-ending foot injury. He’s one of the most dynamic scorers in the draft and some scouts believe he could be this year’s Lillard.

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    Dario Saric

    Atlanta Hawks

    COLLEGE: Croatia

    AGE: 19

    HT: 6-10

    WT: 223

    POS: SF

    Analysis: There are mixed messages on whether Saric will enter the 2013 NBA draft. If he declares and slides this far, he probably won’t stay in the draft. But if the Hawks can get their hands on him, they are getting a player with an off-the-charts basketball IQ who can play a lot of point forward in the pros. He’s struggled a bit this year, but most international scouts in the know think the talent makes him worthy of a lottery pick. He’s a great get here.

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    Kentavious Caldwell-Pope

    Chicago Bulls

    COLLEGE: Georgia

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-5

    WT: 190

    POS: SG

    Analysis: Every year the Bulls are in the hunt for a shooter at the 2-guard position and every year they come up just a bit short. Landing Caldwell-Pope could be their lucky day, as he has both the size and shooting ability to be a serious threat in the NBA. He’s played on such a poor team the past two years that his stock has fallen a bit, but if he’s surrounded by other players who can score the ball (and he would be in Chicago), he could suddenly be the steal of the draft.

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    Jamaal Franklin

    Atlanta Hawks via Houston Rockets

    COLLEGE: San Diego St.

    AGE: 21

    HT: 6-5

    WT: 195

    POS: SG

    Analysis: Franklin’s game defies a position. He’s a super-athletic wing who rebounds, plays above the rim and can do just about everything (but shoot) on the floor. The Hawks could really use a player like Franklin as a jack-of-all-trades coming off the bench.

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    Jeff Withey

    Utah Jazz via Golden State Warriors

    COLLEGE: Kansas

    AGE: 23

    HT: 7-0

    WT: 235

    POS: C

    Analysis: If the Jazz go small with their first pick, don’t be surprised to see them go big with their second one. Al Jefferson will most likely leave over the summer and Derrick Favors would probably take over as the starting 5, but he’ll need help. Withey isn’t special on the offensive end, but he’s a dominant shot blocker who stays out of foul trouble. They’ll be able to find 15 minutes a night for him.

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    Gorgui Dieng

    Brooklyn Nets

    COLLEGE: Louisville

    AGE: 23

    HT: 6-11

    WT: 235

    POS: C

    Analysis: The Nets could really use some backup help at the 5, and they need someone who can step in and play right now. Dieng drops a few spots on our board because of his age, but he should be a terrific fit as a backup to Brook Lopez in Brooklyn. The team could really use his shot-blocking abilities.

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    Rudy Gobert

    Indiana Pacers

    COLLEGE: France

    AGE: 20

    HT: 7-1

    WT: 220

    POS: PF

    Analysis: The Pacers have plenty of young players and no real pressing needs right now. If there was a long-term replacement for David West here, they’d obviously take him. But without one, look for them to swing for the fences and take a player with huge upside in Gobert. He has a 7-foot-9 wingspan and is a good athlete. He’s not ready for the NBA, but the Pacers will have the luxury of developing him over in France for the next couple of years.

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    Isaiah Austin

    New York Knicks

    COLLEGE: Baylor

    AGE: 19

    HT: 7-0

    WT: 215

    POS: PF

    Analysis: Austin was hailed as a potential top-10 pick coming into the college season. However, he struggled a bit on both ends of the ball and scouts became wary. He needs a lot of work on both his body and his jump shot, but on long-term upside, he might be worth a shot here.

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    Allen Crabbe

    Los Angeles Clippers

    COLLEGE: Cal

    AGE: 21

    HT: 6-6

    WT: 210

    POS: SG

    Analysis: The Clippers could always use more shooting, and when Crabbe gets hot, he’s very difficult to contain. He can be a bit lackadaisical on the defensive end, but at this point in the draft, he’s a very good value.

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    Steven Adams

    Minnesota Timberwolves via Memphis Grizzlies

    COLLEGE: Pittsburgh

    AGE: 19

    HT: 7-0

    WT: 240

    POS: C

    Analysis: Adams probably should’ve spent another year in school at Pittsburgh and played himself into the lottery. He’s got that sort of talent. But he’s so raw offensively, anyone that drafts him is going to have to be patient. On the defensive end, however? He can play right now.

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    James Michael McAdoo

    Denver Nuggets

    COLLEGE: North Carolina

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-9

    WT: 223

    POS: PF

    Analysis: McAdoo was considered a potential top-five pick at the beginning of the season. But his lack of polish offensively and high turnover rate scared off scouts. There’s no question he’s an NBA athlete and has the body, but he’s still a pretty big work in progress. The Nuggets could really use a little more help in the frontcourt and he could be a nice long-term investment.

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    Glen Rice Jr.

    Oklahoma City Thunder

    COLLEGE: Georgia Tech

    AGE: 22

    HT: 6-5

    WT: 206

    POS: SG

    Analysis: At the moment, Rice is dominating the D-League for the Rio Grande Vipers. He was dismissed from Georgia Tech last year, so he still has draft eligibility. Since being named a starter he’s been averaging 17.6 ppg, shooting 42 percent from 3-point range and averaging eight rebounds and 2.6 assists per game. He looks like the sort of player the Thunder would steal late in the first round.

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    Kyle Anderson

    San Antonio Spurs

    COLLEGE: UCLA

    AGE: 19

    HT: 6-9

    WT: 235

    POS: SF

    Analysis: Anderson might be the most eccentric player in the draft. Nicknamed “SloMo,” he’s a big point power forward who can handle the ball, make terrific passes and rebound. He could end up filling the same niche that Boris Diaw (his best comp) did.

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    P.J. Hairston

    Cleveland Cavaliers via Miami Heat

    COLLEGE: North Carolina

    AGE: 20

    HT: 6-5

    WT: 220

    POS: SG

    Analysis: The Cavaliers might have their backcourt of the future set, but they can always use depth. Hairston is big enough to play the 2 and the 3, and he can be a terrific shooter. He’s also tough and aggressive and understands a role coming off the bench. The Cavs are big believers in the numbers, and all of Hairston’s advanced statistic profiles come out high, so you could see him sneak into the first round.

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  • #761513
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    BasterdInABasket
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    Looks like a pretty solid mock. Im not a fan of Noel #1 but that seems like a pretty likely scenario. Good to see Franklin at 20, he’s really underrated on this sites mock. Id love for Milwaukee to grab him.

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  • #761516
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    Ghost01
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    I don’t want to hate on this mock, because I actually agree with a good portion of the picks, and this draft is so terrible and there are so many potential busts it is very hard to project this early, but just a few thoughts…

    -My opinion on the Noel/Bobcats is above

    – Shabazz Muhammad couldn’t be a worse fit for the Kings. How can you possibly project the most selfish player in the draft going to the most selfish, dysfunctional, immature team in the league?

    – LOVEEE Bennett going to the Wiz. They could really start turning the corner next year…

    -I understand the idea of Len going to the Thunder, but here’s my counter…When “projects” go to really good teams, a lot of times they get buried in the D league and on the bench, and it becomes really hard for them to contribute. The Thunder are great now, but they don’t have overwhelming depth. So why wouldn’t like they look more to a guy like Bennett, or even someone like Carter-Williams who could fit in sooner than later?

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    • #761530
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      wrector
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      I thought the same thing about Shabazz and the Kings, but then I realized it makes him a PERFECT fit for them lol. They should just change their name to the misfits.

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  • #761515
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    lockdownD

    It only seems obvious to me that; if you know KCP’s stock has fallen because his shity team and defenses collapsing on him, that you would raise his stock.

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  • #761525
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    theballerway
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    I think Whitney is really getting slept on personally though

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  • #761549
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    Forte IV
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    Clippers will be taking a center. We have terrible ones at the moment.

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  • #761569
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    and1rodman91
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    If OKC got Shabazz and groomed him and taught him well.. Another James Harden like player. Would be such a steal if they grabbed him

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  • #761576
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    FastAndFurious
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    WOW….Gary Harris a top 10 pick this year, that’s huge, if he gets that type of feedback from the scouts he’s outta East Lansing first thing smoking.

    Or at least I hope he leaves, Kalin Lucas should have left after his sophomore year and well we see how that turned out………..

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  • #761585
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    Mr. 19134
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    So much is going to change from now to the draft. Like for one the Thunder would be much better off drafting a big like Steven Adams who has the size, strength, and athleticism to play minutes right now, before Len. Rudy Gobert is another big that would benefit the Thunder right now as would Mitch McGary.

    Has Archie Goodwin fallen so far from grace that he isn’t a even a 1st rounder anymore? Doubt it’s true in the minds of scouts. Goodwin is a super athletic 6’5″ combo guard with a near 7 foot wingspan who more often then not the only player to show up on the Kentucky team last year. He was also their youngest player. After the combine and workouts I expect Goodwin to be a lotto pick again. I still think he get’s drafted ahead of Michael Carter Williams.

    I still doubt that a 19 year old 7’1″ PF who can spread the floor with his shooting, pass, rebound, and block shots falls too far in this draft. Austin whether you like him or not is going to have a GM willing to gamble on him sooner rather then later.

    If McCollum is healthy for the pre draft workouts he could very well play his way into the top 5.

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    • #761591
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      Ghost01
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      Actually, most scouts have Goodwin in the 2nd round from what I have read, and I’m pretty sure Chad didn’t just forget about him. Goodwin isn’t going to be a lottery pick, and CJ McCullom isn’t going in the top 5. Workouts change a lot of stuff, but they don’t mean EVERYTHING. Chad’s mock doesn’t have anyone going totally no where near where they are supposed to…

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  • #761613
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    jmarg25
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    Shabazz is the last thing the kings need. Another selfish player and can only score.

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  • #761623
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    I have him going alot higher than 30. I think mid first round or late lotto.

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