[Robb_CParticipant]

 I follow and studying basketball betting trends fairly closely, and noticed something pretty alarming.. 42 percent of the betting public bet on the LA Lakers to win Straight up, not to cover the spread, but to beat the best team in the league.. In no way would a lottery team command this amount of activity from bettors, unless GSW was missing players.. This really sparked my attention.. 

Im not saying the game was fixed, but it defintely looks suspect. 

 

[cjwParticipant]

 Nothing was rigged it was just a poor shooting night for the Warriors.

[cjwParticipant]

 Nothing was rigged it was just a poor shooting night for the Warriors.

[CavFanPRParticipant]

I wouldn’t rule out the possiblity of the game being rigged. What you said about the .42 percent betting on the Lakers is truly alarming.

I only watched the fourth quarter of that game. The Warriors where still in it but the Lakers eventually pulled through. The Warriors will rarely shoot 3-28 or whatever it was from downtown. Might have something to do with the rims?

 

[CavFanPRParticipant]

I wouldn’t rule out the possiblity of the game being rigged. What you said about the .42 percent betting on the Lakers is truly alarming.

I only watched the fourth quarter of that game. The Warriors where still in it but the Lakers eventually pulled through. The Warriors will rarely shoot 3-28 or whatever it was from downtown. Might have something to do with the rims?

 

[CasualCelt]

 Silver will investigate for a thorough 15 minutes.

 

 

[CasualCelt]

 Silver will investigate for a thorough 15 minutes.

 

 

[llperez]

 not calling you a liar but do you have a source?,  if 42% of people that bet on this game picked lakers straight up that is insane. I could understand with a spread since the spread was big but straight up is crazy.

[llperez]

 not calling you a liar but do you have a source?,  if 42% of people that bet on this game picked lakers straight up that is insane. I could understand with a spread since the spread was big but straight up is crazy.

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Yes I do have a source, like I said I follow betting trends.. Almost like a day trader does stocks.. The information is available I can send you a photo of the trend lines for the game

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Yes I do have a source, like I said I follow betting trends.. Almost like a day trader does stocks.. The information is available I can send you a photo of the trend lines for the game

[llperez]

 photo or just say the internet site you got it from so i can look myselfor whatevver, yeah im curious to see it.

[llperez]

 photo or just say the internet site you got it from so i can look myselfor whatevver, yeah im curious to see it.

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Whats your emsil?

[Robb_CParticipant]

 Whats your emsil?

[llperez]

 its all good dude, id rather not throw it on here. I dont follow betting so if you say the results were lakers got that then i guess a lot of people got real lucky today. 

[llperez]

 its all good dude, id rather not throw it on here. I dont follow betting so if you say the results were lakers got that then i guess a lot of people got real lucky today. 

[Robb_CParticipant]

 There was insider information on this game, no way on gods green earth would The Lakers, a lottery team.. Command that much moneyline action vs the best team in the League, unless knowledge was known..

[Robb_CParticipant]

 There was insider information on this game, no way on gods green earth would The Lakers, a lottery team.. Command that much moneyline action vs the best team in the League, unless knowledge was known..

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Me and my rich freemason buddies knew all about it. We made 10’s of thousands on it taking money from all the silly middle class people betting on it. More money so I can buy my psychotic materialistic wife more shoes and clothes. 

[Reptilian MonkParticipant]

 Me and my rich freemason buddies knew all about it. We made 10’s of thousands on it taking money from all the silly middle class people betting on it. More money so I can buy my psychotic materialistic wife more shoes and clothes. 

[OhCanada-Participant]

You probably just smoked too much weed. It happens.maybe the 42% your seeing is a 24%. Who knows? I’m fairly sure this would be breaking news and you wouldnt be the only one to reach the same conclusion. But for purposes of entertainment I’ll give you the benefit of doubt here and agree. I’ll even go fishing!

How was it rigged? Who got paid off?

So let’s look at who can control the game. That’s a simple one. The refs and the players. Now, who can control the refs and the players. Since in this case we know the refs didnt fix it let’s start with the refs.

There are 77 officials in the NBA in the 15-16 season. Of those 77 about 50% of them call more than 80% of the games. Every single referee is born in the U.S.A. and mostly from these major cities (Brooklyn, LA, Miami, Chicago, Atlanta). To say the least its a tight family and a hard gig to come by.

Referees are scheduled games the way players are at the beggining of the season. Before games at 9:00 am referees are given assignments from the directors of official operations. The referee executive operations consists of four men. Don Vaden, Joe Borgia, Mike Bantom and Steven M. Angel. Don Vaden and Joe Borgia have a rich history of officialing in their bloodlines. Mike Bantom and Steven M. Angel have a rich history of marketing.

Bantom is an ex-player who played a 10-year career after graduating St. Johns. From 1992-97 he was the International Director of Marketing for the NBA. After that from 99-2012 he was the Senior Vice President of player development. This guy has been a star for the NBA after devoting about 40 years to the league he is now promoted to…Executive Vice President of Referee Operations.

Steven M. Angel has an even wierder background. He worked for Chimimport Bulgaria’s leader in petroleum gas a finance and market research analysis specialist before working for Sibson in management and resource planning for all of the American major sporting leagues. He has never played or officiated an NBA game.

The referee operations group is eventually run by Adam Silver when its all said and done who is a Jewish finance lawyer that somehow became the commisioner of the NBA.

Now let’s take a look at what is suggested happened tonight. What’s being suggested is that there was insider information that the Warriors would lose. Which means some person or people who is or are heavily invested in pro sports betting knew that something would guarantee a Warriors loss, and this information spread as professional analysts and sports consultants advised their clients to bet for LA.

Well we know the refs didn’t rigg this one so did the players tank it? Possibly? What sort of incentive could make the players tank? Money or blackmail of scandal likely. How could a whole team of players band together and tank without snitching? Couldn’t happen and wouldn’t work.

So the best person to target is Stephen Curry the best player right now in the league or someone that can influence him like his agent. His agent is Jeff Austin for Octagon and he does not represent any other GSW players neither does Octagon. Even if Curry wanted to blow a game he really just has to say he hurt himself and sit the game out. So him taking 10 three pointers that hit the rim show that he didn’t tank the game.

Although I do know Steve Kerr just released a statement in a press conference saying resting his stars takes a priority over finishing with a 72-10 record so sports betting analysts and advisors may have predicted the Warriors resting bodies against LA and the Lakers to take advantage. Maybe they thought Curry would sit he has been pretty banged up.

[OhCanada-Participant]

You probably just smoked too much weed. It happens.maybe the 42% your seeing is a 24%. Who knows? I’m fairly sure this would be breaking news and you wouldnt be the only one to reach the same conclusion. But for purposes of entertainment I’ll give you the benefit of doubt here and agree. I’ll even go fishing!

How was it rigged? Who got paid off?

So let’s look at who can control the game. That’s a simple one. The refs and the players. Now, who can control the refs and the players. Since in this case we know the refs didnt fix it let’s start with the refs.

There are 77 officials in the NBA in the 15-16 season. Of those 77 about 50% of them call more than 80% of the games. Every single referee is born in the U.S.A. and mostly from these major cities (Brooklyn, LA, Miami, Chicago, Atlanta). To say the least its a tight family and a hard gig to come by.

Referees are scheduled games the way players are at the beggining of the season. Before games at 9:00 am referees are given assignments from the directors of official operations. The referee executive operations consists of four men. Don Vaden, Joe Borgia, Mike Bantom and Steven M. Angel. Don Vaden and Joe Borgia have a rich history of officialing in their bloodlines. Mike Bantom and Steven M. Angel have a rich history of marketing.

Bantom is an ex-player who played a 10-year career after graduating St. Johns. From 1992-97 he was the International Director of Marketing for the NBA. After that from 99-2012 he was the Senior Vice President of player development. This guy has been a star for the NBA after devoting about 40 years to the league he is now promoted to…Executive Vice President of Referee Operations.

Steven M. Angel has an even wierder background. He worked for Chimimport Bulgaria’s leader in petroleum gas a finance and market research analysis specialist before working for Sibson in management and resource planning for all of the American major sporting leagues. He has never played or officiated an NBA game.

The referee operations group is eventually run by Adam Silver when its all said and done who is a Jewish finance lawyer that somehow became the commisioner of the NBA.

Now let’s take a look at what is suggested happened tonight. What’s being suggested is that there was insider information that the Warriors would lose. Which means some person or people who is or are heavily invested in pro sports betting knew that something would guarantee a Warriors loss, and this information spread as professional analysts and sports consultants advised their clients to bet for LA.

Well we know the refs didn’t rigg this one so did the players tank it? Possibly? What sort of incentive could make the players tank? Money or blackmail of scandal likely. How could a whole team of players band together and tank without snitching? Couldn’t happen and wouldn’t work.

So the best person to target is Stephen Curry the best player right now in the league or someone that can influence him like his agent. His agent is Jeff Austin for Octagon and he does not represent any other GSW players neither does Octagon. Even if Curry wanted to blow a game he really just has to say he hurt himself and sit the game out. So him taking 10 three pointers that hit the rim show that he didn’t tank the game.

Although I do know Steve Kerr just released a statement in a press conference saying resting his stars takes a priority over finishing with a 72-10 record so sports betting analysts and advisors may have predicted the Warriors resting bodies against LA and the Lakers to take advantage. Maybe they thought Curry would sit he has been pretty banged up.

[CasualCelt]

 I’ve been learning more and more about how the mob and the military and big business have been one entity, going back to the end of WW2 and the National Security Act.

Arms sales, drug sales, and of course the casinos, and everything else.

The question of whether the mob or the military killed JFK is a false question. They’re one and the same.

Think about 9/11. Mob and military.

 

Adam Silver almost became Assistant Attorney General of the United States, before Judge Wood had to withdraw and Janet Reno ended up in her place. Just in time for Waco, WTC ’93, and OKC bombing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[CasualCelt]

 I’ve been learning more and more about how the mob and the military and big business have been one entity, going back to the end of WW2 and the National Security Act.

Arms sales, drug sales, and of course the casinos, and everything else.

The question of whether the mob or the military killed JFK is a false question. They’re one and the same.

Think about 9/11. Mob and military.

 

Adam Silver almost became Assistant Attorney General of the United States, before Judge Wood had to withdraw and Janet Reno ended up in her place. Just in time for Waco, WTC ’93, and OKC bombing.

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

 

[B EazyParticipant]

I agree with ilperez….if 42% picked the lakers that sounds like it would be pretty common knowledge. I certainly hadn’t heard anything and I consider myself a commoner. I’m all for a consipracy but the Warriors just flat out shot like garbage. Bound to happen to a team now and then. Steph Curry doesn’t strike me as the type to intentionally miss shots

[B EazyParticipant]

I agree with ilperez….if 42% picked the lakers that sounds like it would be pretty common knowledge. I certainly hadn’t heard anything and I consider myself a commoner. I’m all for a consipracy but the Warriors just flat out shot like garbage. Bound to happen to a team now and then. Steph Curry doesn’t strike me as the type to intentionally miss shots

[VRod305Participant]

 If you were just talking ATS, it would make sense. At one point, the Sixers were 3-0 when getting 15 or more. I would imagine that the Lakers were somewhere around +1200. If I was in Vegas, I would have put a few bucks on them.

[VRod305Participant]

 If you were just talking ATS, it would make sense. At one point, the Sixers were 3-0 when getting 15 or more. I would imagine that the Lakers were somewhere around +1200. If I was in Vegas, I would have put a few bucks on them.

[oogellsParticipant]

 Pics or it didn’t happen. Easy enough to link or screenshot these days.

[oogellsParticipant]

 Pics or it didn’t happen. Easy enough to link or screenshot these days.

[Sewok15Participant]

The first thing I thought watching the game was the Warriors must have been betting on the Lakers money line because it was more than just a poor shooting game it was an all around poor effort.

[Sewok15Participant]

The first thing I thought watching the game was the Warriors must have been betting on the Lakers money line because it was more than just a poor shooting game it was an all around poor effort.

[DolanCareParticipant]

 Are you sure those numbers were from bets before tip-off? You can bet on live games too you know. Maybe those numbers reflected people who saw LA up big in the 3rd, and then placed bets on the more favorable, and reduced, odds. 

I’m all for conspiracy theories, but the fact that 42% bet on the upset almost disproves your theory. Vegas will typically recalibrate odds if too many people are betting on a certain outcome.

So your theory implies: the fix was in… the fix was leaked before the game to a massive amount of people…no one blabs to the media…. and vegas is just fine with paying out to a 42% of betters, which has to be a ton of money. It just seems counter-intuitive. 

 

[DolanCareParticipant]

 Are you sure those numbers were from bets before tip-off? You can bet on live games too you know. Maybe those numbers reflected people who saw LA up big in the 3rd, and then placed bets on the more favorable, and reduced, odds. 

I’m all for conspiracy theories, but the fact that 42% bet on the upset almost disproves your theory. Vegas will typically recalibrate odds if too many people are betting on a certain outcome.

So your theory implies: the fix was in… the fix was leaked before the game to a massive amount of people…no one blabs to the media…. and vegas is just fine with paying out to a 42% of betters, which has to be a ton of money. It just seems counter-intuitive. 

 

[Robb_CParticipant]

Your logic is off, due to the fact 79 percent of the bets coming into Vegas were locked into Golden State covering the spread.. Yet 42 percent took the moneyline on the Lakers to win outright.. The ML was percentage was locked in before tip.. 

 

Sharp money knew the Lakers were going to outright win.. 

[Robb_CParticipant]

Your logic is off, due to the fact 79 percent of the bets coming into Vegas were locked into Golden State covering the spread.. Yet 42 percent took the moneyline on the Lakers to win outright.. The ML was percentage was locked in before tip.. 

 

Sharp money knew the Lakers were going to outright win.. 

[MopgrassParticipant]

At the beginning of the season, though we all knew they’d be awful, the Lakers were the most bet on for winning the championship. These are probably the same betters who want a miracle to happen for the odds. It’s only smarter to go with the Lakers than the Sixers because they’ve pulled off some shocking trades. A long time ago though. It’s either betters swinging for the fences or crazy Laker fans.

[MopgrassParticipant]

At the beginning of the season, though we all knew they’d be awful, the Lakers were the most bet on for winning the championship. These are probably the same betters who want a miracle to happen for the odds. It’s only smarter to go with the Lakers than the Sixers because they’ve pulled off some shocking trades. A long time ago though. It’s either betters swinging for the fences or crazy Laker fans.

[Hype Machine]

Sports betting doesnt have as much history in the US like it does in Australia and the UK…where sports bodies work closely with betting sites to ensure no shady business goes on. Gambling on sports is a national pasttime. Newsflash: match fixing happens so often in all sports that its ridiculous.

The Warriors didnt want a rival getting a high draft pick. They can wear a few strategic Ls

Just to prove its possible…Australian Police are currently investigating a high profile basketball coach for betting against his own team! These hardcore gamblers come in all forms. Theyre outta control.

Tim Donaghy a lone wolf engaging in corruption for personal gain? Not just unlikely….absolutely impossible.

[Hype Machine]

Sports betting doesnt have as much history in the US like it does in Australia and the UK…where sports bodies work closely with betting sites to ensure no shady business goes on. Gambling on sports is a national pasttime. Newsflash: match fixing happens so often in all sports that its ridiculous.

The Warriors didnt want a rival getting a high draft pick. They can wear a few strategic Ls

Just to prove its possible…Australian Police are currently investigating a high profile basketball coach for betting against his own team! These hardcore gamblers come in all forms. Theyre outta control.

Tim Donaghy a lone wolf engaging in corruption for personal gain? Not just unlikely….absolutely impossible.

[frogmanParticipant]

 To be fair the Warriors would barely be paying money so you would have to put a huge bet on just to see a reward.  People can chuck a few dollars on the heavy underdogs and just hope for the best.  If I were to bet on a game like that I’d prefer the Lakers as the Warriors just wouldn’t give you value for money.

[frogmanParticipant]

 To be fair the Warriors would barely be paying money so you would have to put a huge bet on just to see a reward.  People can chuck a few dollars on the heavy underdogs and just hope for the best.  If I were to bet on a game like that I’d prefer the Lakers as the Warriors just wouldn’t give you value for money.

[BlueRivers25Participant]

 How much did you lose?

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Lmao! It all makes sense now.

[OhCanada-Participant]

 Lmao! It all makes sense now.

[BlueRivers25Participant]

 How much did you lose?

[DaGuywhodidurmaParticipant]

 According to mychel Thompson the Warriors were out celebrating draymond’s birthday till late morning because they forgot they had an early game. They probably got 3-4 hours of sleep and then had to go to staples for practice. 

 

Insiders have this type of knowledge from people close to the team. It’s not always a fix/conspiracy.  sometimes it’s just something as simple as staying up late and big time gamblers having connections with team staff, etc. So they are privy to little things like that, that the average person isnt.

 

 

 

[DaGuywhodidurmaParticipant]

 According to mychel Thompson the Warriors were out celebrating draymond’s birthday till late morning because they forgot they had an early game. They probably got 3-4 hours of sleep and then had to go to staples for practice. 

 

Insiders have this type of knowledge from people close to the team. It’s not always a fix/conspiracy.  sometimes it’s just something as simple as staying up late and big time gamblers having connections with team staff, etc. So they are privy to little things like that, that the average person isnt.

 

 

 

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