[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 Between Andre Drummond, Blake, DeAndre Jordan and Dwight

who’s the better athlete

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 forgot to include Javale McGee to

[Hi its BenParticipant]

this is tough lol

[HaleParticipant]

 Blake 1st with Dwight 2nd.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

I’d also put Iguadola and Josh Smith in that catergory too, and lets not forget about Lebron and Wade when healthy…

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

Blake Griffin.. No contest.. Being a good athelte is more than just jumping..

Howard is pretty far ahead of the other two but Blake is a good bit ahead of Howard.

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 im only comparing McGee, Drummond, Dwight, Blake and Jordan

[invalidParticipant]

 blake for me

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

than the other awesome athletes in The NVA, and to put Drummond on that list is quit premature, he’s no where near the level of Griffin, Howard and Company…McGee and Jordan don’t deserve to be mentioned in the same sentence with those players anyway…I don’t think any of those Bigs is a better pure athlete than Rose, Westbrook, Iguadola, lebron, Wade or Josh Smith…those guys can jump as high and are faster than Griffin and Howard, that is the true definition of an Athlete, the total package of size, speed and strenght, that’s why I say Lebron is the Best Athlete in the World(Next to "Megatron") If your excluding all other Elite Athletes, than you should go suck off Howard and Griffin in another thread…

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

He is comparing bigs………….

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 Im only comparing mcgee, drummond, howard, jordan and blake

 

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

It seems like he’s discrediting all other athletes…Griffin, Howard, Jordan and McGee are not the best athletes in the NBA…To start a debate about who’s a better athlete and then to put in a college player that doesnt have Elite athletism in kinda foolish, if he can put in a player that has no business in the debate why cant I point out that there are better athletes than the ones brought up originally… 

[JoeWolf1]

Of the guys you listed… 

Griffin, he’s the strongest, definately the most explosive and quickest, and with a vertical leap probably only rivaled by Howard and footspeed rivaled by both McGee and Howard.

Here are all of their standing reaches.  I think what Blake does above the rim is that much more impressive because the other players are so much longer.

Griffin – 8’9”

Howard – 9’3.5”

Jordan – 9’5.5”

McGee -9’6.5”

Drummond – rumored 7’5” wingspan, probably between 9’3”-9’6”

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

I just had a realization..

JoeWolf, you are one of the best posters on the site..

I kinda love you (a lil homo) because you always seem to post smart stuff and have lots of evidence to back it up.

You dont try to derail the post by turing it into an arugement about other players at other positoins that have nothing to do with the original post.

So from the deadliest poster on the site, Thanks!

[JoeWolf1]

 Haha, thanks 8thDeadly, that means a lot coming from a very good and the deadliest poster like yourself.  I watch tons of Big 12 basketball ( I cheer for KU) and I’m excited to have your Mountaineers joining us next year, I’m sure many good debates are ahead of us.

[WizardofOzParticipant]

 Blake because he has the quickest 1st step out of all of them.

[db24kb24Participant]

 If your talking all around athletic ability you have to take balance and body control into account. Jordan and McGee don’t have those athletic attributes. I’m not rating Drummond because I need to see him against men. So Howard VS Blake. Blake has better feet and better body control than howard, this enables him to move through traffic smoother. Dwight makes up for that with pure strength, power, and a quick vertical. 

Blake 6’10 D12 6’11, but at the end of the day if neither had any basketball skill, just athletic ability i’d go with Blake. If we had them perform all the events at a track meet Blake would finish first on most running events because he is quicker, they proabably have similar top speeds though. If we put them both on the court with a basketball and neither had any basketball skill i might go with dwight just because he is so much stronger. 

[Michael.S.Participant]

JoeWolf, you think Griffin is stronger than Howard?

I think it’s Howard. Vertical jumping, he gets up higher than Griffin, he is stronger than Griffin by far, and he is very mobile, not as much as Griffin but he is 2-3 inches taller and 25 pounds heavier. I also think Griffin doesn’t utilize heis athletic ability as much as Howard, only to dunk pretty much. He should be able to guard some 3 and lock down every 4 and he is a terrible defender, its also amazing that he blocks no shots.

[JoeWolf1]

 I personally do, This is my opinion

Dwight Howard is ripped and I know he’s done a lot of work since joining the league, but Blake Griffin is built heavier and was the strogest guy in his draft class.

Bench press isn’t the best indicator of overall strength, but when Dwight came into the league he was putting up 7 reps at 185lbs which is not impressive at all, while Blake Griffin ( although a couple years older ) repped it 22 times which translates to probably around a 350lb max.

It’s not just bench, though, it’s lower body too, Blake’s calves look the size of a normal sized guys’ thighs.  He has a lower center of gravity and is just a powerful guy, which is evident from his quick spins and the way he explodes off the court.

Howard, has put in work, loves to workout and he’s got massive shoulders, but as a whole, upper body, lower body, core, the total package, I still think it’s Blake Griffin.

 Dwight came into the league as a tall weak guy and is basketball strong, has worked on lifts that improve his basketball skills but don’t always translate to overall strength, while Blake came into the league as a beast who you could tell had been lifting for years.  I think the best way to measure strength is to put them both in a weight room and see who can lift more.  I guarentee it’s Blake Griffin.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

This post is kinda silly because Drummond is playing with College Kids, McGee is rail thin and gets push around by guys 6’6…Jordan is a One trick pony "dunk the Ball DJ"..as someone above just stated this boils down to Dwight Vs. Blake and I think Howard takes the cake very easily…If this was just a "Tall guys that can Jump" thread then just say so and let other Intelligent posters exclude themselves from the Convo…

and @ 8 deadly farts, I could care less about you and how you feel about me as a poster, get a new gimmick and try to give us more than 8 stupid Opinions from a guy with 0 Basketball IQ…

Now if you want to debate me about something other than the typical "These guys can jump, but who jumps higher" threads I’m all ears…I don’t care what anyone says about cause I’m confident I’d destroy you all in a face to face debate…Im fact I’m sure I can type faster than most of the other posters on here too, so a Computer debate would not bother me either…

Again 8th, step your own game up before you try to come out of your face with some dumb shyt…

@ Joe Wolf, I’m also a fan of your posts but lets save the circle jerk for another time…we’re better than that…

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 Blake, the most underrated part of athleticism is balance, Dwight is a close second, but Blake for sure one, Drummond and McGee shouldn’t even be in the same conversation as those two. And Deandre is somewhere in between.

[butidonthavemoney]

I’m in. No circle-jerk is complete without NoMoney. I love JoeWolf, 8thDeadly and Scarecrow for different reasons. Site vets have to look out for each other, you know.

Howard is the most athletic center in the league. Throwing Drummond and Griffin in the mix seems inconsistent (like Scarecrow mentioned), but out of the listed players, Griffin takes the cake.

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

Griffin isn’t getting up as high this season as he was the last, but he’s the best overall athlete due to his body control… He’s really the total package.

1. Griffin

2. Howard

3. Jordan

4. McGee

And I didn’t even bother including Drummond since he’s not even in the NBA.  

[The8thDeadlySinParticipant]

@Wolf

Thanks man. I am too excited to join the Big 12.. I have always wanted to play against those teams in the Big 12.  I love the Big East but I am excited for a change.. I never get to see those teams over there unless I catch a game on ESPN so I will be seeing alot more of them.

@ScareCrow

I dont like flexing my muscles online.. LoL.. Its like saying that I have the biggest PEN!S in the forum.. LoL.. Not trying to embarrass you but its true..  Trust me… I’m bigger.

[Pick-and-nothingParticipant]

I might get bashed for this, but I do feel that Derrick Favors athleticism rivals all of those players. Obviously his game hasn’t taken that next step (soon he will in my opinion) yet but he is so quick, strong, can absolutely dunk with all of the above listed.

Wingspan 7’4"

Height 6’10.25"

Standing Reach 9’2

Vertical 35.5"

 

Those numbers warrant him being in this group right?  

I seriously think he will mold into a Dwight Light.  

Thoughts?

[butidonthavemoney]

Somewhere out there, Quincey’s eye is twitching out of its head.

Favors’ athleticism is a full notch below the players listed. At least in terms of leaping ability and explosiveness. Great athlete, but not elite.

[The Scare Crow ReturnsParticipant]

Mcdunkin Is still trying to come up with a Derrick Favors joke…

[GrandmamaParticipant]

Of course it’s Griffin.  Those others have great athleticism, but Griffin’s is ridiculous.

[Chilbert arenasParticipant]

 I think it’s fair to say that Favors was very overrated athletically coming into the draft. I know his numbers compared to Dwights, but he doesn’t have the fluidity or quickness you would expect.  He’s not nearly as spry as I imagined him.  

[Jean_31Participant]

griffin came in the league the years older than dwight howard… For me Howard is the strongest… those two have probably a vertical leap between 36 and 40 now but Griffin is quicker than dwight

[Champzilla21Participant]

I think you guys are hating on mcgee and Jordan pretty bad. I mean when i watch them play they standout in the athlete department immediately. They are both leading the league in blks at 3 a game. They are not all just stand and jump blks either i when i was watching the Warriors, Clips games Jordan outran everyone to the other side and chased down Monta for a Blk which was quite impressive. Mcgee is has supreme body control if not the best out of the three, Did you see those dunks he pulled off at the contest¿ Essentially no one else in the world could do atleast 2 of those dunks and in he,s exceptionally fast its just we dont notice these them as much as the other two because they arent the stars.

[JoeWolf1]

I disagree about McGee, he can stand on his tip toes and touch the rim.  His 9’7” standing reach paired with his mobility make his dunks so great.  He and Joakim Noah, in my opinion, are the two best centers in transition the entire league.  I will not knock McGee’s open court speed, his fluidity or mobility, but he’s not strong…at all.  He gets pushed around by just about everyone, and his vertical leap, is good, but when talking about Griffin and Howard who are bolstering 35”+ McGee’s isn’t very impressive.  McGee also isn’t very explosive, he looks like a deer running the court and is a good one footed jumper, but I’ve never seen McGee shoot off the court like Blake Griffin.

I’m not hating on McGee, but his length adds a deceptive element as far as his lift, in my opinion. Compared to most of the bigs in today’s game, he has the edge, but not when he’s thrown in with Howard and Griffin.  If Blake Griffin had a 9’7” reach he could smack the shot clock, kidding, but you get my point.

[ProudGrandpaParticipant]

If you liked it, then you should’ve put a ring on it.

[Snubs15Participant]

Seems like everyone agrees its between Dwight and Griffin

For me i’d say Dwight though. He is Bigger than Griffin, probably pretty close to as fast as Griffin and he gets up higher than Griffin all the while weighing around 30lbs heavier. Plus Dwight has to be stronger in my opinion. He just straight bullies people down low and absolutely cannot be moved when boxing out.

Also, I wouldnt say the bench press is a true test of strength. Earl Boykins is able to bench press 315lbs. Does that mean hes stronger than over half the NBA?

[alex23Participant]

 i agree with the people who says its dwight but to people that say drummond doesnt have elite athleticism must be crazy , he may be a bit more athletic then dwight when he was 18-19 and stronger as well

[IndianaBasketballParticipant]

I was looking at some of Griffin’s dunks and his elbows were litterally above the rim, which is impressive because his arms aren’t as long as Dwight’s, McGee’s or Jordans.

And another thing that impressed me about Griffin is how QUICK and EXPLOSIVE his second and third jumps are. It’s insane. I haven’t seen too many players get off of the floor that quick after his initial leap.

 

[Malik-UniversalParticipant]

 i still dont know y i got minsed six points for wanting to include mcgee in comparing other bigs lol

is he not athletic enuff??? lol

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